You Only Shoot Once Mafia - Page 42

Koshi

Belgium38797 Posts

April 30 2014 11:43 GMT

#821

I also am always all over the fucking place as town. ALL OVER THE FUCKING PLAE AS TOWN.

WHILE I AM SUPER TIMID AND MAKE LIKE 1 CASE ON STRONG TOWN AS SCUM.

WHICH META AM I HERE GUYS?
WHICH META?

The fact I am even up for shooting is so fucked up.

meh.

Kinda hilarious I get so mad when I die but I have mostly 0 problems pushing all other people scum or not.

Koshi

Belgium38797 Posts

April 30 2014 11:45 GMT

#822

22th post.

I am really totally out. Pressure poofter. If he doesn't actively solve the game kill him. He shoots an active player while he isn't active himself.

He shoots the most active player over the least active player (Koshi vs Oats) while both are scumreads. There is even a connection case between us. (I pushed SnB to save Oats)

Make sure you pressure the poofter.

Pressure and if he fails kill him.

Kill his ass.

For shooting the most active player in the game.

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

April 30 2014 11:52 GMT

#823

@Tehpoofter Can you just not shoot Koshi? He's not only active but he looks kind of townie to a lot of people. It will really just create chaos if you shoot him.

We like our flips a lot here on forum mafia. If you shoot someone they will no flip, so please shoot some lurker just to get them out of the way. Shoot gumshoe or Oatsmaster or RebirthOfLeGenD.

Caller

Poland8075 Posts

April 30 2014 12:34 GMT

#824

On April 30 2014 12:25 austinmcc wrote:

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It somewhat whittles down, but not tons. People who aren't coroners should just split on each side of things. If we whittle down possible coroners by like...D5, then oh well who cares the coroner is probably dead/claimed by then. Unless you think mafia is going to get a great snipe BECAUSE of doing this within like...one day, then it's not a minus.

Caller, have you played with gumshoe before/has he played in one of your games? Not the most important thing, but I'm interested.

On April 26 2014 13:59 Caller wrote:
Who the hell are you guys?

#Nukealmar

On April 30 2014 12:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
no more rolefishing plz, bad enough they know im a PR lets not let them know which one. I have wifom'd and crumb'd 3 different ones so dont make it easy on them.

are you fucking kidding me

what does it matter, if you're really a PR and not mafia, if mafia dont know what role you are you just outed yourself. Esp. now that mafia know there are vanilla townie in the game, so they will just go after PRs like they always do in green + blue games. Again, claim. Seriously.

justanothertownie

16309 Posts

April 30 2014 12:38 GMT

#825

I have limited time right now so I will adress Foolishness' bullshit in more detail later on. This guy is scum.
For now I bolded and underlined the part of him quoting me that completely invalidates the nonsense he is spouting:

On April 30 2014 19:42 Foolishness wrote:

Now I just took the liberty of looking through your filter this game and noticed a quite unusual turn of mindset.

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On April 29 2014 22:06 justanothertownie wrote:

On April 29 2014 06:34 Foolishness wrote:
Gonna go out on a limb here and say that sandroba and Palmar are both town.

And by limb I mean I'd find it difficult to believe if you thought otherwise.

I'll just summarize main sandroba points:

1) in Bureaucracy mafia I made a bullshit case on day 1 and was afk for the rest of the game. I hardly even pushed it iirc. This game I got a town lynched.

2) I'm not soft defending Palmar, I'm hard defending him. I think he's town. Make a case if you think otherwise cause I haven't seen one other than he did something anti-town by pardoning prphlz. Even so, would not be upset if he died. Almost like a wildcard.

3) Cases weren't bullshit cause I didn't make them up. Legit thought prphlz was mafia (I've caught him before as mafia in the past). Don't think he's mafia anymore and would not lynch tomorrow.

So maybe this game is difficult and I or blazinghand or Koshi or 2 or all of us are mafia, and we all pushed a lynched yesterday that we knew was on a town.

Or maybe what really happened is that a bunch of townies pushed a lynch onto another townie and the mafia sat back and watched it all happened. This is even more likely given that there wasn't ever that hard of a push against anyone else (the Oatsmaster case never got the traction, though to be honest I would probably lynch him). And it's even more likely cause there's a big handful of people that can be best summarized as:

1) Didn't really contribute much yesterday in terms of pushing a read.

2) Voted without much consideration or without following it up.

And that handful of people includes, Ace, Palmar, Alakaslam, Caller, RoL, WaveOfShadow, Cephiro and then VA and JAT to an extent.

Which boat you riding sandroba? You're "Foolishness is so awful as mafia this is him leading the town to a mislynch with his scumbuddy Palmar" or the "town lynched a town and mafia just sat back and enjoyed the show"? I know what boat I'm in and it doesn't involve any conspiracy theories about mafia buddies purposely ignoring each other.

Yes prphlz, I did look at would lynch Cephiro in a heartbeat.

So, to clarify: Did you actually mean to say Palmar/Sandroba are town or is that a typo? Because the rest of your posts does not suggest that as far as sandroba is concerned. You basically call everything he said wrong.
Also I think it is quite ridiculous that you group me in the list of people who "voted without much consideration". That is absolutely not true. I made it very clear that I thought oats was the better lynch and I even spoke to you about why your case does not make SnB mafia.
You claim oatsmaster never got traction which is a blatant lie. If that was the case how come it was tied (8:8 or something like that) at some point? If you are town you can do better and you will have to because if you don't provide some magic today I am very inclined to sheep sandroba and lynch you.

On April 29 2014 16:53 Koshi wrote:
##vote Foolishness
Because I am not impressed. Also Sandroba is ded.

imo people should shoot Foolishness. Also Palmar.

PEOPLE PLS SHOOT FOOLISHNESS AND PALMAR.

Thank you.

I don't think we should be shooting Foolishness. If he doesn't start shitting towny rainbows we lynch him today. We learn nothing by shooting him.
Could you please explain your Foolishness read in more detail now like you promised earlier? I still think your change from "mouth already full" to totes scum makes no sense the way you presented it.

The same goes for you Koshi, so BANKS I would recommend not shooting Koshi. Koshi said it himself but I think it is kinda true that he would not lead a lynch that way as scum. I mean he could be scum but he will be readable in the future. We need to get rid of the question marks who will remain question marks all game and we sadly have plenty of them this game. Examples: slam, RoL, gumshoe... if you have some kind of scumread on one of those people they make a better shot than the vocal guys.

Then a whopping two and a half hours later you say that I'm a good lynch (before proceeding to vote me hours after):

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On April 30 2014 00:50 justanothertownie wrote:

On April 30 2014 00:41 Koshi wrote:

On April 30 2014 00:27 Caller wrote:
we're ignoring all the other crap you guys are spouting, half of you are chasing your own tails and the other half of you are mafia. we're focusing on this now.

On April 30 2014 00:14 Caller wrote:

On April 29 2014 12:17 VayneAuthority wrote:
didnt even know there was vanilla town in this game, what a scrub

lol are you guys fucking kidding me

the guy just softed a blue claim, and there isnt a bomb or meth dealer or w/e role. There's only two reasons why you would do this: either you're a fucking retard that wants to get killed by mafia, or you're actually mafia.

i tend to think better of humanity than to assume everybody is a fucking retard, so VA claim, it's out in the open anyways.

##vote: VayneAuthority

I am waiting on VA to come back and shoot Cephiro. I read the claim and was planning to talk to him about it. Pretty sure he typed that because he wants to shoot somebody today. If he doesn't do it or shoots somebody strange we have a problem.

Voting him makes it sure he can't shoot. We want him to shoot a target town is ok with. So I suggest you give him a scummer instead of voting him.

IN THE MEANTIME:
Alakaslam and JAT think it is better to not let VA shoot obvious great scumtargets. Which means I can add another paragraph to my response to JAT ↓.

On April 30 2014 00:17 justanothertownie wrote:

On April 29 2014 23:16 WaveofShadow wrote:

On April 29 2014 22:36 justanothertownie wrote:

On April 29 2014 22:30 Koshi wrote:
So I can brag endgame?

If you think you can brag with those reads endgame you have to have some reasons for them, correct? Believe it or not I want to hear them.
Normally you are an easy townread at this point and I really need townreads because very few people are really towny this game and asshole scummers shot 2 of them last night. I have the nagging feeling that you are town but your play doesn't suggest that at all.

My eyes have been opened.

This looks like 'Oh balls, they's catching on, no reasoning though---hmm I can discredit here.'
Also probably thought Cephiro was town until that traitor shit was pointed out to me which seems really damn obvious, including his recent attempts to defend himself.

I dunno I think I just have to find someone to sheep all game. Maybe I'll make like Koshi and listen to dead geript for once?
I don't think I can play this kind of format again it's killing my activity and motivation. It's funny I yelled at Slam/called him scum for saying I don't care about the game but this may be the game I've cared about the least in like, ever.

Someone give me something to do. Austin you're good at that.

Because asking for reasoning is totally scummy after all... I understand that you think this game sucks WoS. I share that feeling mainly because of the post restriction and because half of the people aren't even playing but why should other people put effort in if you don't?

Koshi promised explanation and didn't deliver. His scumteam makes 0 sense since I wouldn't mind seeing all of the other 3 people he called scum dead. The difference is though that I would rather see foolishness lynched than shot. Cephiro and slam are both decent shots because the chance of them being traitor/scum is quite high and they are lynchbait anyways should they be town.

My scumteams makes 0 sense even though you agree with 3 out of 4 guys in it? That's pretty much descrediting my entire scumteam while you only want to discuss your name in it.

But wait. Do you really want those 3 shot?
You were defending Foolishness with meta reasoning D1 right?
You did give 3 names that needed to be shot right? It was RoL, Alakaslam and gumshoe. I do not see Cephiro in there. Wait let me see what is in your filter JAT:

On April 29 2014 21:39 justanothertownie wrote:

On April 29 2014 21:13 Palmar wrote:
Like does no one but me care that Ceph is literally claiming traitor?

I noticed that too. The problem here is that I would not put it past Cephiro to do this as town for some weird ass play. He totally claimed traitor with the recruiting stuff and the "don't shoot me it's not worth it" etc.
Do you think he would be this obvious as scum?
I mean he is a decent shot don't get me wrong, but I am not sure about his alignment.

IS IT MORE META DEFENSE OF PEOPLE IN MY LIST? It sure looks like it.

EXTRA:
So we have 4 people JAT wants shot: RoL, Cephiro, Alakaslam, Gumshoe. And then Foolishness lynched. But when VA claims dayvig (most likely) JAT wants to lynch VA instead of directing his shot on a scummer.

Sounds legit!

Koshi when did you lose the ability to read? I did not defend Foolishness day1 I just stated that what he did (provide a read without reasoning) is not necessarily indicative of scum foolishness which is proven true.
And yes, your scumteam as a whole makes 0 sense as long as I am included in it.
I am not defending anyone else on it. Foolishness is a good lynch, the others are good shots. I literally say Cephiro is a decent shot in the fucking post you quoted.
Also VA did not claim dayvig anywhere. He softclaimed not VT that is all and I wanted to lynch that guy since day1.

POOFTER! If you shoot Koshi I will be fucking mad. Don't do it or suffer the consequences -> I will shoot you when I return.

WaveofShadow

Canada31494 Posts

April 30 2014 13:10 GMT

#826

I bet EVERYBODY has a gun and can totally threaten everybody.

Poofter isn't going to shoot anybody and was never going to.
Please.

Alakaslam

United States17322 Posts

April 30 2014 14:12 GMT

#827

On April 30 2014 16:27 Tehpoofter wrote:
@slam Can you tell me where youre at currently on scum/town? Who would you shoot if you had another shot?

@Koshi Tick Tock.

@ Ace have you looked at my case on koshi/austin's on oats and foolishness' on RoL? cause honestly I'd vote all of them before I voted PAlmer.

nien.

Not much so far but Odinofpergo seems to be getting false info from outside the thread, I can imagine sources besides a qt as well now though.

You are scummy, but I need to read up.

Alakaslam

United States17322 Posts

April 30 2014 14:22 GMT

#828

On April 30 2014 07:00 prplhz wrote:

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you'll note that he always repeats first word four times though

Hijo, hijo, hijo, hijole!

Alakaslam

United States17322 Posts

April 30 2014 14:26 GMT

#829

On April 30 2014 11:33 Tehpoofter wrote:

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You only have one vote on you in gumshoe atm. Austin I know would vote you in a heartbeat. I think it is odd more people aren't wanting to vote on you too lynch there has been quite a few new cases brought up today on people who didn't get much talk day one. My koshi case, BH, RoL to name a few. I am of course partial to my own case I liked Foolishness's on RoL too. My only reservation on you Oats is that I've read you incorrectly in the two games we played in (Titanic and Catastophe) both times I called you wrong.

I also don't like this thing where people don't really defend themselves against an accusation. Koshi just did his whole "I'm town guys for the realz" and RoL just put out a small 1 line defense then kinda sucked up to Foolishness: + Show Spoiler +

On April 30 2014 08:34 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Suck it phil. Your argument collapsed on top of itself. You talk about how I am lazy and apathetic and then say that after I sheeped you I pretended to draw the same conclusion. The real reason was because I just went WOOOO VOTE SNB, then went and did other things, then eventually came back and read it when I stopped being lazy.

On April 30 2014 08:49 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
DOES THAT MEAN YOU TAKE IT BACK?!

On April 30 2014 08:49 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
TUNNEL BUDDIES 4 LYFE?

I need more than that like stand up and fight if you're town if you're scum feel free to continue as is.

##Vote: RebirthOfLeGenD

Voting you but Koshi I'm still shooting you until further notice.

@JAT where are you on WoS?

@Slam I might regret this but what are your reads atm? If you had another shot where would you be pointing your gun?

@Odin/Ace where you at? How do you guys feel about RoL? (Austin you can answer as well)

7

Replied to reads, gun would be reserved.

Alakaslam

United States17322 Posts

April 30 2014 14:30 GMT

#830

On April 30 2014 20:38 Koshi wrote:
Let poofter also fill in this list:

Towniest town in town:
Leaning town:
Null:
Leaning scum:
Scummiest scum that scummed:

Then ask him why he shot me. It's going to make him scumclaim. Read all his previous reads. Compare it with the list he gave you after filling this in ↑.

Then ask him why he shot active town while he has scumreads that don't play.
Then ask him why he is not trying to solve the game because he has around 8 nullreads but he is superconfident that either Koshi or Foolishness it scum.
Then ask him why he pisses all over Sandroba his read.
Then ask him why he didn't shoot Oats.

Ask him all the questions.
Make sure he is a solves this fucking game OR FUCKING LYNCH HIS ASS.
I tried to solve this game.

I wasn't succesful this game.
Sorry town.

Fuck the retards.

Koshi out.

Nonono don't give up there is agreement

Oatsmaster

United States16627 Posts

April 30 2014 14:33 GMT

#831

prp im no lurker and you know it.
wave so cutie

WaveofShadow

Canada31494 Posts

April 30 2014 14:59 GMT

#832

I'm still mad at you Oats
</3
R u scum again?

Palmar

Iceland22630 Posts

April 30 2014 14:59 GMT

#833

I fully condone shooting RoL, gumshoe etc.

Would also not mind shooting Slam for being an idiot and not even talking to people about his idea of shooting yamato.

Blazinghand

United States25550 Posts

April 30 2014 15:40 GMT

#834

Other than the incorrect claim that it's a crap shoot nobody had any real objections to lynching gun eight

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

April 30 2014 15:40 GMT

#835

I actually don't understand all the "don't shoot koshi" folks.

---(1)---
Basically, between N1 and D2, he said he was going to lay low. His scumreads were Palmar/SnB/geript/VE/Foolishness at the end of D1. (see spoiler below, first post)

After that, what...98% of his today is just him saying he's town. I'm town; don't shoot. Don't shoot; I'm town. I'm shoot; don't town; poofter is mafia. Whether he's ACTIVE or not, I think he's had 1-2 legit posts during N2/D2, where he flips his read on Palmar.

---(2)---
I don't find his reads to make much sense recently. And seeing how the main read he had on D1 was that SnB was scum, that means I'm looking at someone I think pushed a bad lynch D1 ----> has weird reasoning for reads N1/D2. That's not a plus imo.

Coming into today he wants to kill Foolishness/Palmar, with the primary reason apparently being "Sandroba said so." Then he wants Cephiro/Palmar/Foolishness shot, because ... Sandroba said so. And heck, he notes that Palmar is suspicious of Foolishness and Cephiro, so in his mind, Palmar is bussing like half his scumteam or something --- + Show Spoiler +

On April 29 2014 05:36 Koshi wrote:

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I changed my read on SnB.

I am easily impressed. Sandroba already impressed me. Sandroba The Siren.
What were my reads? Palmar, SnB, geript & VE?
Now we can add Foolishness.

On April 29 2014 17:53 Koshi wrote:
geript got shot. Things we learn from his filter:

1) Oats is town
2) Alakaslam is town
3) Cephiro needs to be shot really badly. geript was on Cephiro ass.
4) Foolishness is weird and needs to be shot.
5) Plammer is playing Dota and needs to be shot.
6) RoL useless should be shot.
7) ~~Koshi is scum~~
8) ~~SnB is scum~~

SnB was wrong about the last 2 but still got shot. This means he got a pretty decent % right on the other 6. I have read his entire filter twice now and I don't think I missed another big read of his. He had Sandroba as town, so that's something he was right about, but it is not something he would get shot over knowing that Sandroba got shot as well.

So please reread geript his filter as well and please let me know if I missed something. I am pretty sure I didn't. There is something minor on prplhz but nothing too big. His early filter was about Policy lynch Caller and Koshi.

So let me add something about this Koshi guy. This Koshi guy is totally not harmful. Almost every time it gets very obvious the longer the game progresses that this Koshi guy only wants the best for town. So I would say please leave the Koshi guy alone and not shoot him. Really. No kidding here. No bullets towards Koshi.

So imo the vigis should really shoot Cephiro, Palmar, Foolishness. Just all 3. Shoot them. I see Palmar even agrees on Foolishness and Cephiro.

Bonus thing - While pushing "Follow sandro!" and "Follow geript!" because their reads must have been so doggone right, he half-fails to notice that both of them, as far as I can tell, found Koshi scummy

On April 28 2014 09:32 sandroba wrote:
So far I got as possible scum foolishness oats slam and possibly koshi and bh. I'm fair game to kill any of these today.

No quote for geript, it's in the spoiler above

He says Geript is wrong, but basically he was pushing (last night and then today) to sheep the reads of..................two guys who have him as mafia. He doesn't question them, doesn't seem to think they're wrong/unreliable.

Then he decides Palmar is town for posting about Cephiro's "recruit me! recruit me!" stuff.

On April 29 2014 21:19 Koshi wrote:

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This somewhat indicates that Cephiro knows there is a traitor while he didn't read the OP. So yeah, this might have been a slip.

Foolishness/Cephiro

pls shoot both. They are confirmed mafia or without doubt will never get nk. Maybe Foolishness will get NK if he is town and starts playing.

SOoooooo if the first vigi could please SHOOT CEPHIRO. Thank you.

Palmar is off the scumlist atm.

Boom. Palmar, his #1 D1 lynch, a good target during the night, a guy that Sandroba said was mafia and boy howdy we should all just sheep Sandroba.......well, that guy is town now just for the traitor thing (I'm cool with this, however, it's not that weird to me for someone to take a single post and flip a read based on it).

---(3)---
He's super pissed at Poofter for talking about shooting him.

On April 30 2014 20:34 Koshi wrote:
What is your case actually? I didn't really push the SnB lynch? I just pushed it to prevent Oats being lynched? That's not even the right timeline. I started on SnB WAYYYY before Oats got any action and I didn't go to Oats because I indeed don't really see why Oats is scum. Even though he could be. I just found his play lackluster but not scummy. WHICH I CLEARLY STATED IN THE THREAD.
Why am I getting fucking shot for stating my opinion on people their alignment?????? BEcause you think Oats is scum and you are drawing connections to me and fucking Oats?

AND OATS IS NOT PLAYING THE GAME BUT YOU WANT TO FUCKING SHOOT ME OVER OATS???? REALLY??????????????????? ARE YOU FUCKING BAD AT THIS GAME????????? IS THAT IT??????

But remember, Poofter is scummy on Foolishness. They have a read in common, both Poofter AND Koshi think Foolishness is scum. And koshi is pissed that poofter won't shoot Oats (who koshi seems to think received an oats-colored PM), but ISN'T pushing Poofter to shoot Foolishness, their shared scumread. Koshi is basically calling Poofter dumb/mafia for shooting Koshi over Oats, when he doesn't think Oats is particularly scummy. He SHOULD be calling Poofter dumb/mafia for shooting Koshi over Foolishness, who they BOTH have is mafia.

I see some activity. But for people who don't want to shoot someone active/contributing/synonyms, can you please pick out like...the 2 best contributions Koshi has made N1/D2? What are the two smartest things he's said? Where does he have insight that you hadn't thought about? Is he actually contributing to helping you find mafia, or is he just posting?

Alakaslam

United States17322 Posts

April 30 2014 15:46 GMT

#836

On April 30 2014 23:59 Palmar wrote:
I fully condone shooting RoL, gumshoe etc.

Would also not mind shooting Slam for being an idiot and not even talking to people about his idea of shooting yamato.

Because every time it is brought up everyone's mind=blown and falsehood everywhere

justanothertownie

16309 Posts

April 30 2014 15:47 GMT

#837

On May 01 2014 00:40 Blazinghand wrote:
Other than the incorrect claim that it's a crap shoot nobody had any real objections to lynching gun eight

Yes, yes it is a crapshoot. If you have a gun feel free to shoot gumshoe - maybe I will even do it - but today we are lynching foolishness. Get on the wagon. Lynch of justice yada yada.
I want to see more votes on Foolishness!

Alakaslam

United States17322 Posts

April 30 2014 15:57 GMT

#838

On May 01 2014 00:46 Alakaslam wrote:

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Because every time it is brought up everyone's mind=blown and falsehood everywhere

And look I can act like you fools.

OOOOOH PALMAR HOW DO YOU KNOW I WAS AN IDIOT? EH HOW DO YOU KNOW?

OOOH SKUMZLIP

does anyone read at all what kind of shit has been pushed as if it was legitimate this game?

EVERYONE. HEAR AND UNDERSTAND IF YOU WILL NOT OBEY.

EVERYONE SHOULD READ AS IF YOU WERE ME. YOU PANICKED AND SHOT YAMATO77 DAY ONE FOR NO REASON AT ALL AS TOWN DAYVIG.

LOOK AT WHAT YOU SAID DURING YOUR CONFUSION AND FACEPALM. THEN LOOK AT WHAT WAS LEVVIED AGAINST YOU, FIRST FOR THE SHOT (understandable) BUT THEN FOR RECOGNIZING WHAT TOWN TOLD YOU TO BE TRUTH!

Do you not give up trying to get anyone to understand the situation? Do you even bother to convince the town of anything?

Blazinghand

United States25550 Posts

April 30 2014 16:03 GMT

#839

On May 01 2014 00:47 justanothertownie wrote:

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Foolishness really is not scum. I'm in a mason qt with him and with few exceptions he has been helpful and honest. Even better he has pushed me to develop and clarify my reads. He asks questions and shares thoughts and ideas. Foolishness has put more work into solving this game than any of you jub jubs. Why not lynch one of the many scummy people like Gumshoe instead of the helpful foolishness?