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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 30 2014 02:51 GMT
#801
Couple random things before sleep.

##vote: Oatsmaster

Still my preferred lynch of the day, unless he's getting shot. Also, I THINK I'd rather have a shot on oats over koshi? If both are scummy, and both have decided to do little/nothing today, I think oats gives us SLIGHTLY more info? Plus, you know, I want him to be mafia this game.


HEY EVERYBODY. EVERYONE SHOULD SAY WHAT YAMATO'S ALIGNMENT WAS. CORONER GETS A SINGLE CHECK EACH NIGHT, BUT THE RESULTS ONLY COME TO HIM. EVERYONE SAYS EACH DAY WHAT ALIGNMENT SOME NON-FLIPPED PERSON WAS. IF A CORONER DIES, THEN ... TA DA! WE JUST FOUND OUT THEIR RESULTS. THERE'S A NON-ZERO CHANCE THAT A CORONER OR MULTIPLE CORONERS GET KILLED BEFORE THEY CAN GIVE THEIR RESULTS OUT, AND MAYBE THEY DIDN'T CRUMB OR DIDN'T CRUMB IN A WAY WE FOUND. IF EVERYONE, EVERY DAY, SAYS THE ALIGNMENT OF A NO-FLIPPED PLAYER (ASSUMING WE HAVE ONE), THEN THE CORONER IS COVERED.

ALSO IF YOU WANT YOU CAN TOTALLY SAY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOUR RESULT CAME BACK, AND USE THE WORD "FAKE" 3 TIMES DURING THE DAY AND NIGHT AFTER YOU GET A CHECK. THAT WAY MAFIA HAS TO DO A BUNCH OF LEGWORK IF THEY WANT TO TRY AND CATCH A CORONER BECAUSE ONLY ONE PERSON HAS CORRECT ALIGNMENTS EACH TIME. SUCK IT SCUM, ENJOY YOUR HOMEWORK. (OTHER PEOPLE SHOULD FAKE USE "FAKE" FOR BONUS MAFIAWORK. YESYES)

ON ANY FUTURE DAYS WE HAVE NO-FLIPPED PLAYERS, EVERYONE SHOULD DO THIS FOR THOSE PEOPLE TOO

YOU'RE WELCOME, CORONER(S), ASSUMING YOU'RE NOT ME. YOU'RE WELCOME ME IF I'M THE CORONER. YAYAYAYA.

(I think Yamato was town. Also, any uses of the word fake in this post don't count towards my 3 for the day)


Gumshoe,

HEY GUMSHOE. HEY GUMSHOE.

Have you played with Caller before?


Poofter,

I haven't looked back at any other RoL games, but for now I'm fine with him, mildly mildly townie? He gave away a boatload of posts yesterday, and not for entirely useless reasons. His response to Foolishness is alright by me.

I THINK I disagree with Foolishness saying it's scummy for him to do a stupid sheep vote ---> later reading SnB and finding SnB scummy. If he wants off of SnB, he can move ezpz. If he wants to stay on SnB, he doesn't have to do anything. He drops a stupid vote early, and just goes "lol stupid vote." For now, he's nowhere NEAR the top of my list, and I think he's on the town side for me?


On April 30 2014 08:45 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2014 08:04 austinmcc wrote:
Foolishness, that says a LOT about not-oats, when yesterday you were looking over him and snb at one point, and proceeded to just say nothing at all about oats ever. Including more or less up until now, because all this other stuff is real work and the oats bit is just him having a weak vote and being absent.

This bit
I'm not really sure what this says about Oatsmaster (if anything) given that he was second in line to be lynched. What I do know is that mafia were very content with how things played out yesterday and did not fear one of their own getting killed. This means that the vast majority (if not all) of the mafia team were sitting back and sheeping along, because why would you put yourself out there to get townie's lynched when you can just let the town do it for you?
also doesn't quite jive with this bit
Oastmaster
[sic]

You don't have to draw conclusions, you can be not really sure, but ... a red oats means mafia probably was NOT content with how things played out yesterday.

Talk to me about oats and why he's mafia for doing scummy stuff and not for doing things that 2/3 the game is doing.



You misunderstand. That paragraph means I don't know if that in itself says anything about Oats. I read that particularly thing as neutral. If you think that if Oats was mafia then more drama would have happened yesterday I can respect that.

Also weren't you the one saying Oats was mafia post after post?
Yup. That was me on D1. And N1. And today. Ta da!

In terms of "if you think that if Oats was mafia then more drama would have happened", you have Oats in red in your list. That indicates, to me, that YOU think oats is scummy/mafia.

Like...is the "if you think" in that bolded relevant to "If you think oats is mafia" or is it Oats is mafia and "if you think more drama would have happened" i can respect that?
Fe fi fo fum.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
April 30 2014 03:07 GMT
#802
@Austin Wouldn't a lynch on Oats garner more info? Like knowing his alignment makes the vote assessment from day 1 really interesting. A shot only flips the results if a Coroner outs or is killed. So having him die by a shot doesn't give us that info for me a flip of Oats gives town solid info either way vote train analysis becomes much better Imo when the alignment of both big trains is known. So I disagree with you sir. Although this Coroner thing is hella townie... I honestly didn't read Yamato too closely because by the time I knew the game was going on Day 1 had ended and I saw the front page with him getting shot (SPOILERS) I'll read his filter and give a real or fake read on him later.


@RoL You planning on hunting any scum today? It seems your posts have just been like 1-2 liners of defending yourself lightly and badly in my opinion. I have no clue who you think is mafia/town care to enlighten me/the rest of town? You're kinda not doing much tbh. Granted you're not the only one that this falls under today who else would you like to hear more from? Me personally Caller/Ceph/Ace/Gum/Odin/Prplhz I'd all want to hear a bit more from.

Ocho!
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
April 30 2014 03:09 GMT
#803
Vote Count:


Foolishness (4) - Koshi, prplhz, justanothertowie, Palmar
Palmar (2) - Ace, VisceraEyes
VayneAuthority (0) - Caller, Alakaslam
Gumshoe (1) - Blazinghand
Blazinghand (1) - WaveofShadow
Visceraeyes (2) - Caller, Alakaslam
Oatsmaster (2) - Gumshoe, austinmcc
RebirthOfLegend (2) - Foolishness, tehpoofter




Day ends in . There are 19 players alive, and it takes 10 to lynch.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 30 2014 03:12 GMT
#804
On April 30 2014 12:07 Tehpoofter wrote:
@Austin Wouldn't a lynch on Oats garner more info? Like knowing his alignment makes the vote assessment from day 1 really interesting. A shot only flips the results if a Coroner outs or is killed. So having him die by a shot doesn't give us that info for me a flip of Oats gives town solid info either way vote train analysis becomes much better Imo when the alignment of both big trains is known. So I disagree with you sir. Although this Coroner thing is hella townie... I honestly didn't read Yamato too closely because by the time I knew the game was going on Day 1 had ended and I saw the front page with him getting shot (SPOILERS) I'll read his filter and give a real or fake read on him later.


@RoL You planning on hunting any scum today? It seems your posts have just been like 1-2 liners of defending yourself lightly and badly in my opinion. I have no clue who you think is mafia/town care to enlighten me/the rest of town? You're kinda not doing much tbh. Granted you're not the only one that this falls under today who else would you like to hear more from? Me personally Caller/Ceph/Ace/Gum/Odin/Prplhz I'd all want to hear a bit more from.

Ocho!
More info, but right now seems less likely. I need to do more wranglin'

As of yet, oats appears to either be scummy or oats-y to everyone. And he's done jack all N1/D2, which should be pushing needles towards scummy.

But that's basically it, if people don't start voting oats, then he's not going to get lynched. Since dayvigs can fire at any point, it's really a nonissue. If oats is the lynch, he's not the shot. If he's not the lynch, I personally think he's a good shot. Learning how coroner works this game makes me SLIGHTLY more okay with shots, but honestly I still don't like them overall. If you're going to shoot though, then I think koshi/oats is fine, would just prefer oats if not lynched.
Fe fi fo fum.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
April 30 2014 03:16 GMT
#805
why the fuck are we playing hypocoroner? all this does is cause mafia to whittle down the amount of coroner possibilities

if anything coroner should claim, as there's an unknown amount of protection roles that can be stacked upon them.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 30 2014 03:25 GMT
#806
On April 30 2014 12:16 Caller wrote:
why the fuck are we playing hypocoroner? all this does is cause mafia to whittle down the amount of coroner possibilities

if anything coroner should claim, as there's an unknown amount of protection roles that can be stacked upon them.
It somewhat whittles down, but not tons. People who aren't coroners should just split on each side of things. If we whittle down possible coroners by like...D5, then oh well who cares the coroner is probably dead/claimed by then. Unless you think mafia is going to get a great snipe BECAUSE of doing this within like...one day, then it's not a minus.


Caller, have you played with gumshoe before/has he played in one of your games? Not the most important thing, but I'm interested.
Fe fi fo fum.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
April 30 2014 03:34 GMT
#807
no more rolefishing plz, bad enough they know im a PR lets not let them know which one. I have wifom'd and crumb'd 3 different ones so dont make it easy on them.
I come in for the scraps
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
April 30 2014 03:53 GMT
#808
Austin I'm not sure what you're asking me about Oats. I think Oats is mafia for not doing anything this game and tossing around his vote. I think it's a debatable subject on whether or not there would have been more drama on day 1 if Oats is mafia. Personally, I don't think it's true, but I understand why you might think so.

Also I think Yamato is town.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 30 2014 03:54 GMT
#809
Foolishness vote Palmar with me.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
April 30 2014 07:08 GMT
#810
Ok well Yamato was scum, give me
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
April 30 2014 07:08 GMT
#811
Because I am not coroner.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
April 30 2014 07:27 GMT
#812
@slam Can you tell me where youre at currently on scum/town? Who would you shoot if you had another shot?

@Koshi Tick Tock.


@ Ace have you looked at my case on koshi/austin's on oats and foolishness' on RoL? cause honestly I'd vote all of them before I voted PAlmer.

nien.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
April 30 2014 07:27 GMT
#813
@slam Can you tell me where youre at currently on scum/town? Who would you shoot if you had another shot?

@Koshi Tick Tock.


@ Ace have you looked at my case on koshi/austin's on oats and foolishness' on RoL? cause honestly I'd vote all of them before I voted PAlmer.

nien.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
April 30 2014 08:43 GMT
#814
On April 30 2014 11:33 Tehpoofter wrote:
@JAT where are you on WoS?

Town - we seem to agree on a few things. Not a strong read though.
On April 30 2014 11:51 austinmcc wrote:
HEY EVERYBODY. EVERYONE SHOULD SAY WHAT YAMATO'S ALIGNMENT WAS. CORONER GETS A SINGLE CHECK EACH NIGHT, BUT THE RESULTS ONLY COME TO HIM. EVERYONE SAYS EACH DAY WHAT ALIGNMENT SOME NON-FLIPPED PERSON WAS. IF A CORONER DIES, THEN ... TA DA! WE JUST FOUND OUT THEIR RESULTS. THERE'S A NON-ZERO CHANCE THAT A CORONER OR MULTIPLE CORONERS GET KILLED BEFORE THEY CAN GIVE THEIR RESULTS OUT, AND MAYBE THEY DIDN'T CRUMB OR DIDN'T CRUMB IN A WAY WE FOUND. IF EVERYONE, EVERY DAY, SAYS THE ALIGNMENT OF A NO-FLIPPED PLAYER (ASSUMING WE HAVE ONE), THEN THE CORONER IS COVERED.

ALSO IF YOU WANT YOU CAN TOTALLY SAY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOUR RESULT CAME BACK, AND USE THE WORD "FAKE" 3 TIMES DURING THE DAY AND NIGHT AFTER YOU GET A CHECK. THAT WAY MAFIA HAS TO DO A BUNCH OF LEGWORK IF THEY WANT TO TRY AND CATCH A CORONER BECAUSE ONLY ONE PERSON HAS CORRECT ALIGNMENTS EACH TIME. SUCK IT SCUM, ENJOY YOUR HOMEWORK. (OTHER PEOPLE SHOULD FAKE USE "FAKE" FOR BONUS MAFIAWORK. YESYES)

ON ANY FUTURE DAYS WE HAVE NO-FLIPPED PLAYERS, EVERYONE SHOULD DO THIS FOR THOSE PEOPLE TOO

YOU'RE WELCOME, CORONER(S), ASSUMING YOU'RE NOT ME. YOU'RE WELCOME ME IF I'M THE CORONER. YAYAYAYA.

(I think Yamato was town. Also, any uses of the word fake in this post don't count towards my 3 for the day)


Gumshoe,


Yamato was probably town.
On April 30 2014 12:53 Foolishness wrote:
Austin I'm not sure what you're asking me about Oats. I think Oats is mafia for not doing anything this game and tossing around his vote. I think it's a debatable subject on whether or not there would have been more drama on day 1 if Oats is mafia. Personally, I don't think it's true, but I understand why you might think so.

Also I think Yamato is town.

You know why you are scum? Because a big part of your wallpost was about how you thought mafia sat back regarding the lynch day1. Then you gave a scumread on oats. Votes were tied 8:8 at some point between scum oats and town SnB in your world and you are telling me mafia just sat back? That people who pushed a SnB lynch have to be town? Not to mention that you somehow now are ok with killing Koshi who made the first original case on SnB despite saying that.
How on earth can anybody see this and go "yeah, that makes totally sense - Foolishness' reads/posts are good!"?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
April 30 2014 09:20 GMT
#815
On April 28 2014 13:01 Hapahauli wrote:
Vote Count!


Palmar (1) - VisceraEyes, VayneAuthority, Odinofpergo, Ace
Caller (0) - prplhz, Ace, Sandroba, yamato77, VisceraEyes
Geript (0) - Alakaslam, Oatsmaster, BlazingHand
VisceraEyes (0) - Caller, strongandbig
prplhz (immune) (0) - Foolishness, Koshi, Blazinghand, Caller, prplhz
strongandbig (13) - Foolishness, Alakaslam, Geript, Palmar, Koshi, Oatsmaster, VisceraEyes, RebirthofLegend, BlazingHand, Caller, OdinofPergo, WaveofShadow, VayneAuthority, prplhz
Cephiro (0) - prplhz
Foolishness (0) - Sandroba
Oatsmaster (5) - Austinmcc, Yamato77 dead, Strongandbig, prplhz, justanothertownie, Cephiro, Sandroba, WaveofShadow, BlazingHand, OdinofPergo
Blazinghand (0) - VisceraEyes
Sandroba (0) - VayneAuthority, WaveofShadow
Alakaslam (1) - Oatsmaster

Not Voting (2) - tehpoofter, gumshoe

until lynch. With 22 alive, 12 votes are needed to lynch.

Just look at this! The only person that has a chance of flipping scum on oats is Cephiro. Everyone else is town. Besides that there are only the non voters (I don't think that's alignment indicative so assuming there has to be scum there is a random thing) and Ace. EVERYONE ELSE IS ON SNB! And Foolishness it telling us mafia spread out and did not push this lynch. WTF!
This also makes me want to lynch oats again. We need a double lynch. Or a shot.
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
April 30 2014 10:42 GMT
#816
We must be playing a different game JAT. Because I could have sworn you said you wanted to kill Oats (probably a good idea) and yet are voting me for my correct analysis about what happened day 1 (clearly a bad idea).

Also the four people who pushed the strongandbig lynch were the first five people to vote for him (blazinghand was doing things with his vote because he has difficulties reading the clock sometime). So essentially what happened is that a bunch of people posted cases on strongandbig, voted for him, and then a large chunk of people went "hey this sounds good! vote strongandbig" and another large chunk of people went "hey this doesn't sound good! toss vote on *insert random person here*".

I mean, okay Oatsmaster had a lot of votes yesterday too. But when votes were getting moved it hardly felt like mafia doing something there. If you think otherwise then you need to

1) Provide a case on why Oatsmaster is mafia (which you haven't done).
2) Show players who moved their vote around at crucial times in regards to Oatsmaster collecting votes (which you haven't done).
3) Show that the players in number 2 are mafia for reasons outside of that, like they aren't contributing, pushing an agenda, etc. (which you haven't done).

Now I just took the liberty of looking through your filter this game and noticed a quite unusual turn of mindset.
On April 29 2014 22:06 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2014 06:34 Foolishness wrote:
Gonna go out on a limb here and say that sandroba and Palmar are both town.

And by limb I mean I'd find it difficult to believe if you thought otherwise.


I'll just summarize main sandroba points:

1) in Bureaucracy mafia I made a bullshit case on day 1 and was afk for the rest of the game. I hardly even pushed it iirc. This game I got a town lynched.

2) I'm not soft defending Palmar, I'm hard defending him. I think he's town. Make a case if you think otherwise cause I haven't seen one other than he did something anti-town by pardoning prphlz. Even so, would not be upset if he died. Almost like a wildcard.

3) Cases weren't bullshit cause I didn't make them up. Legit thought prphlz was mafia (I've caught him before as mafia in the past). Don't think he's mafia anymore and would not lynch tomorrow.




So maybe this game is difficult and I or blazinghand or Koshi or 2 or all of us are mafia, and we all pushed a lynched yesterday that we knew was on a town.

Or maybe what really happened is that a bunch of townies pushed a lynch onto another townie and the mafia sat back and watched it all happened. This is even more likely given that there wasn't ever that hard of a push against anyone else (the Oatsmaster case never got the traction, though to be honest I would probably lynch him). And it's even more likely cause there's a big handful of people that can be best summarized as:

1) Didn't really contribute much yesterday in terms of pushing a read.

2) Voted without much consideration or without following it up.

And that handful of people includes, Ace, Palmar, Alakaslam, Caller, RoL, WaveOfShadow, Cephiro and then VA and JAT to an extent.

Which boat you riding sandroba? You're "Foolishness is so awful as mafia this is him leading the town to a mislynch with his scumbuddy Palmar" or the "town lynched a town and mafia just sat back and enjoyed the show"? I know what boat I'm in and it doesn't involve any conspiracy theories about mafia buddies purposely ignoring each other.


Yes prphlz, I did look at would lynch Cephiro in a heartbeat.

So, to clarify: Did you actually mean to say Palmar/Sandroba are town or is that a typo? Because the rest of your posts does not suggest that as far as sandroba is concerned. You basically call everything he said wrong.
Also I think it is quite ridiculous that you group me in the list of people who "voted without much consideration". That is absolutely not true. I made it very clear that I thought oats was the better lynch and I even spoke to you about why your case does not make SnB mafia.
You claim oatsmaster never got traction which is a blatant lie. If that was the case how come it was tied (8:8 or something like that) at some point? If you are town you can do better and you will have to because if you don't provide some magic today I am very inclined to sheep sandroba and lynch you.

Show nested quote +
On April 29 2014 16:53 Koshi wrote:
##vote Foolishness
Because I am not impressed. Also Sandroba is ded.

imo people should shoot Foolishness. Also Palmar.

PEOPLE PLS SHOOT FOOLISHNESS AND PALMAR.


Thank you.

I don't think we should be shooting Foolishness. If he doesn't start shitting towny rainbows we lynch him today. We learn nothing by shooting him.
Could you please explain your Foolishness read in more detail now like you promised earlier? I still think your change from "mouth already full" to totes scum makes no sense the way you presented it.

The same goes for you Koshi, so BANKS I would recommend not shooting Koshi. Koshi said it himself but I think it is kinda true that he would not lead a lynch that way as scum. I mean he could be scum but he will be readable in the future. We need to get rid of the question marks who will remain question marks all game and we sadly have plenty of them this game. Examples: slam, RoL, gumshoe... if you have some kind of scumread on one of those people they make a better shot than the vocal guys.

Then a whopping two and a half hours later you say that I'm a good lynch (before proceeding to vote me hours after):
On April 30 2014 00:50 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2014 00:41 Koshi wrote:
On April 30 2014 00:27 Caller wrote:
we're ignoring all the other crap you guys are spouting, half of you are chasing your own tails and the other half of you are mafia. we're focusing on this now.

On April 30 2014 00:14 Caller wrote:
On April 29 2014 12:17 VayneAuthority wrote:
didnt even know there was vanilla town in this game, what a scrub

lol are you guys fucking kidding me

the guy just softed a blue claim, and there isnt a bomb or meth dealer or w/e role. There's only two reasons why you would do this: either you're a fucking retard that wants to get killed by mafia, or you're actually mafia.

i tend to think better of humanity than to assume everybody is a fucking retard, so VA claim, it's out in the open anyways.

##vote: VayneAuthority

I am waiting on VA to come back and shoot Cephiro. I read the claim and was planning to talk to him about it. Pretty sure he typed that because he wants to shoot somebody today. If he doesn't do it or shoots somebody strange we have a problem.

Voting him makes it sure he can't shoot. We want him to shoot a target town is ok with. So I suggest you give him a scummer instead of voting him.

IN THE MEANTIME:
Alakaslam and JAT think it is better to not let VA shoot obvious great scumtargets. Which means I can add another paragraph to my response to JAT ↓.


On April 30 2014 00:17 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 29 2014 23:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 29 2014 22:36 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 29 2014 22:30 Koshi wrote:
So I can brag endgame?

If you think you can brag with those reads endgame you have to have some reasons for them, correct? Believe it or not I want to hear them.
Normally you are an easy townread at this point and I really need townreads because very few people are really towny this game and asshole scummers shot 2 of them last night. I have the nagging feeling that you are town but your play doesn't suggest that at all.

My eyes have been opened.

This looks like 'Oh balls, they's catching on, no reasoning though---hmm I can discredit here.'
Also probably thought Cephiro was town until that traitor shit was pointed out to me which seems really damn obvious, including his recent attempts to defend himself.

I dunno I think I just have to find someone to sheep all game. Maybe I'll make like Koshi and listen to dead geript for once?
I don't think I can play this kind of format again it's killing my activity and motivation. It's funny I yelled at Slam/called him scum for saying I don't care about the game but this may be the game I've cared about the least in like, ever.

Someone give me something to do. Austin you're good at that.

Because asking for reasoning is totally scummy after all... I understand that you think this game sucks WoS. I share that feeling mainly because of the post restriction and because half of the people aren't even playing but why should other people put effort in if you don't?

Koshi promised explanation and didn't deliver. His scumteam makes 0 sense since I wouldn't mind seeing all of the other 3 people he called scum dead. The difference is though that I would rather see foolishness lynched than shot. Cephiro and slam are both decent shots because the chance of them being traitor/scum is quite high and they are lynchbait anyways should they be town.

My scumteams makes 0 sense even though you agree with 3 out of 4 guys in it? That's pretty much descrediting my entire scumteam while you only want to discuss your name in it.

But wait. Do you really want those 3 shot?
You were defending Foolishness with meta reasoning D1 right?
You did give 3 names that needed to be shot right? It was RoL, Alakaslam and gumshoe. I do not see Cephiro in there. Wait let me see what is in your filter JAT:
On April 29 2014 21:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 29 2014 21:13 Palmar wrote:
Like does no one but me care that Ceph is literally claiming traitor?

I noticed that too. The problem here is that I would not put it past Cephiro to do this as town for some weird ass play. He totally claimed traitor with the recruiting stuff and the "don't shoot me it's not worth it" etc.
Do you think he would be this obvious as scum?
I mean he is a decent shot don't get me wrong, but I am not sure about his alignment.

IS IT MORE META DEFENSE OF PEOPLE IN MY LIST? It sure looks like it.

EXTRA:
So we have 4 people JAT wants shot: RoL, Cephiro, Alakaslam, Gumshoe. And then Foolishness lynched. But when VA claims dayvig (most likely) JAT wants to lynch VA instead of directing his shot on a scummer.

Sounds legit!

Koshi when did you lose the ability to read? I did not defend Foolishness day1 I just stated that what he did (provide a read without reasoning) is not necessarily indicative of scum foolishness which is proven true.
And yes, your scumteam as a whole makes 0 sense as long as I am included in it.
I am not defending anyone else on it. Foolishness is a good lynch, the others are good shots. I literally say Cephiro is a decent shot in the fucking post you quoted.
Also VA did not claim dayvig anywhere. He softclaimed not VT that is all and I wanted to lynch that guy since day1.

I realize that time is relative, but it is awfully convenient for you to change that read as soon as I started getting heat in the thread. You even said you liked quite a few of my posts on day 1. Furthermore, your whole basis against me is this deal about mafia-controlling the lynch. A point I could almost agree to disagree about.

Now if you want to be helpful to the town you're going to need to:

1) Give more than just one argument about why I'm mafia (which you haven't done).
2) Explain how my play this game coincides with my mafia play in other games or is vastly different from my town play (which you haven't done).
3) Explain why your other top mafia Oats (who you haven't pushed or made a case on) is mafia with me even though I want to kill him and was okay killing him yesterday (which you haven't done).

Because I certainly have given the town all of my reads and where they are coming from, even if some are a bit haphazard. With that said, you can do the same (ya know on Oats and all his mafia scumbuddies you're so sure of) and I and everyone else would gladly love to contribute to that. But currently you are only doing the following:

1) Tunneling on one of the few players making cases and trying to steer down in the right direction (bad for the town).
2) Voting on someone on the basis that you disagree with 1-2 things they said (bad for the town).
3) Nothing (bad for the town).

I also took the liberty of reading through all your past games so be on your best behavior!


tl;dr Nobody cares.


Ace, I'm very content where my vote is (it's on a mafia).
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 30 2014 10:53 GMT
#817
Poofter bro I am not scum... read SMB mafia and tell me it is the same as here....

Hmmm. Dont know how I can proof it.

You are the only one who wants to shoot me. The only one. I dont understand why you want to shoot me. You keep saying it is me OR foolishness. Without any smart reasoning to why that is the case. Really makes me fear and somewhere.content thag you are probably mafia.

If you as mafia need to shoot a townie let it be me.

I still have 40 minutes?

Please let me know when you shoot me. I shall type a goodbye message.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 30 2014 10:55 GMT
#818
If I die before reaching a pc. Let it be known poofter is scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 30 2014 11:34 GMT
#819
On April 30 2014 12:07 Tehpoofter wrote:
@Austin Wouldn't a lynch on Oats garner more info? Like knowing his alignment makes the vote assessment from day 1 really interesting. A shot only flips the results if a Coroner outs or is killed. So having him die by a shot doesn't give us that info for me a flip of Oats gives town solid info either way vote train analysis becomes much better Imo when the alignment of both big trains is known. So I disagree with you sir. Although this Coroner thing is hella townie... I honestly didn't read Yamato too closely because by the time I knew the game was going on Day 1 had ended and I saw the front page with him getting shot (SPOILERS) I'll read his filter and give a real or fake read on him later.


@RoL You planning on hunting any scum today? It seems your posts have just been like 1-2 liners of defending yourself lightly and badly in my opinion. I have no clue who you think is mafia/town care to enlighten me/the rest of town? You're kinda not doing much tbh. Granted you're not the only one that this falls under today who else would you like to hear more from? Me personally Caller/Ceph/Ace/Gum/Odin/Prplhz I'd all want to hear a bit more from.

Ocho!

You want to hear more of so many people and you are going to shoot me. I have tried to give this thread everything. I hold nothing back. Sure, posts like sheeping Foolishness for no reason at all on prplhz is getting my scumreads, but I told you people why. I also have sheeped marv in all my previous towngames, till I find a better target. I found a better target in SnB, made a (good) case and lead that wagon. There is nothing scummy about that tbh. And it is TOTALLY AGAINST my scummeta. As said by multiple people.


On April 30 2014 08:40 Tehpoofter wrote:
@ Foolishness, Did you read my case on Koshi? At first I thought it was one of the two of you just from reading and after filter diving Koshi I feel like what he did was get a snowball rolling and instead of pushing it let you get behind it and do the leg work and slightly cheer on the sidelines "go team" knowing SNB was town and defending his potential buddy in Oats more than pushing his lynch. I really liked your post you bring up RoL sheeping you and I read his filter after your post and he really hasn't done much at all and not coming through with his promise is scummy. My question is him sheeping you is odd what do you think of Koshi's post here:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 06:46 Koshi wrote:
I am sorry but if Foolishness says you are scum. You are scum. No need to second guess it.

##Vote: prphlz


Especially when Koshi follows it up saying he thinks prphlz might be town/doesn't know why hes scummy but basically hes voting because you said so???
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 27 2014 07:13 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 07:05 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 27 2014 06:56 Koshi wrote:
GREAT ANALYSIS JAT. REALLY NICE. VERY THOUGHTFUL.

Above message is sarcastic.

The reason to why it is sarcastic is because you don't give any input at all about prplhz his alignment. You use meta I think. But the only thing I remember in Foolishness his meta is pure gold and awesomeness.

But even if there is something. Are you saying because foolishness once said that a guy was scum while he was town it now counts for all future games?


Your blind worshipping is just getting on my nerves tbh. Foolishness did exactly this to WoS in the shadow game. As long as almighty Foolishness doesn't explain to me why prplhz is scummy I will just ignore him and you should too. At least if you have no scumread on that guy on your own.

I literally do this in every game marv is in and you never have a problem with it. You are even pushing me away to have marv his penis for you alone. Now suddenly it is a problem I follow the great Foolishness?

I don't know what it is that makes prplhz scummy.
I see:
1) trying to help town atmosphere saying stuff that is good for town atmosphere in theory. Then also votes Caller and gives reasoning. Asks a question to VE that probably has nothing to do with scumhunting. Asks the guys who think Caller is town why they think Caller is town.
2) Helping people who can't read the OP. Asking some questions to Ace that might not have anything to do with scumhunting.
3) Tell Oats he is wrong and Caller is scum.
4) Telling Caller he is scum.
5) Telling the thread Caller is scum.

So I am going on blind trust here.

Foolishness town hero.


Can you go into a bit further detail on what you think of Palmer? like basically you're saying "I think he's town but I'd vote he's also not the best case" Ill look through your filter for a case you have on Palmer after this but I don't recall it.


@town I Think Koshi is most definitely the scum between Foolish and Koshi.... look at the way they've played the game Koshi brings up a case on SNB but doesn't ever really push it he also defends the other lynch candidate Oats who if you read Austin's case looks scummy as well. I feel like he also REALLY wanted the Geript kill to be meaningful and brought it up very very quickly after the day start something I think mafia does because they know who is going to die. I am most likely shooting Koshi before days end unless some people I find townie can convince me otherwise (I'm looking at you austin, odin, ace, palmer, foolish). I think the lynch needs to be between Oats/WoS/BH/RoL I am going to read filters on them and decide where to place my vote. Koshi you have about 12 hours or so to convince me you're town or you'll be the proud owner of a bullet!

Yes, I voted for prplhz while thinking he was town FUCKING SUPER EARLY IN THE DAY. WHAT IS THE MAFIA MINDSET HERE? CLEARLY I WAS TROLLING/BAITING REACTION/HAVING FUN TAKE YOUR FUCKING PICK.
If you think that is proof I am mafia you fucking suck.

I didn't push the SnB lynch? I pushed it more than 75% of the other SnB voters. How can you fucking say I didn't really push the SnB lynch? How can you even fucking say that with a straight face?

Then the fucking bolded thing is just association stuff between me and Oats. Howly fuck, How do I even defend against this kinda shit?

What is your case actually? I didn't really push the SnB lynch? I just pushed it to prevent Oats being lynched? That's not even the right timeline. I started on SnB WAYYYY before Oats got any action and I didn't go to Oats because I indeed don't really see why Oats is scum. Even though he could be. I just found his play lackluster but not scummy. WHICH I CLEARLY STATED IN THE THREAD.
Why am I getting fucking shot for stating my opinion on people their alignment?????? BEcause you think Oats is scum and you are drawing connections to me and fucking Oats?

AND OATS IS NOT PLAYING THE GAME BUT YOU WANT TO FUCKING SHOOT ME OVER OATS???? REALLY??????????????????? ARE YOU FUCKING BAD AT THIS GAME????????? IS THAT IT??????



Fuck you I can't do this. I have removed so many capslocked sentences already.


Fuck this poofter guy. If he shoots me he shoots town. He fucking shoots active town over his inactive scumreads. Poofter is fucking bad or mafia.

I don't give a fuck what you people pick after he shoots me.

Poofter is either:
1) fucking terrible
2) mafia
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 30 2014 11:38 GMT
#820
Let poofter also fill in this list:

Towniest town in town:
Leaning town:
Null:
Leaning scum:
Scummiest scum that scummed:

Then ask him why he shot me. It's going to make him scumclaim. Read all his previous reads. Compare it with the list he gave you after filling this in ↑.

Then ask him why he shot active town while he has scumreads that don't play.
Then ask him why he is not trying to solve the game because he has around 8 nullreads but he is superconfident that either Koshi or Foolishness it scum.
Then ask him why he pisses all over Sandroba his read.
Then ask him why he didn't shoot Oats.


Ask him all the questions.
Make sure he is a solves this fucking game OR FUCKING LYNCH HIS ASS.
I tried to solve this game.

I wasn't succesful this game.
Sorry town.

Fuck the retards.


Koshi out.

I had a good night of sleep.
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