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On April 30 2014 06:55 austinmcc wrote:JAT, why is VA towards the tippy top of your scumlist? I know you posted on him, but the real meat of it is that VA is more engaged/cares, whereas you're not used to that. I've seen VA care in games. Is there more meat than just that? Talk to me about VA and why he should be on my scumlist please. VA caring doesn't vault him over other scummy people imo, but I'm pretty much always willing to find VA scummy and want to kill him Also, talk to me about oats! You were kinda on board with oatsscum yesterday. You were worried about him not having a chance to defend himself. Lucky for oats/you (maybe), he DID get that chance. He's posted since I called him out. How do his posts make you feel, deep down inside? Why ain't HE at the tippy top of your scum lists? About VA: I gave my reasons for him being scum in the first post I made about him and they are basically still the same. I just get the same feeling I got from him in the pm game (where he was my scumbuddy) - trying to be reasonable while pushing an agenda. He did his best to not give a fuck since I called him out but it's not convincing me.
About Oats: I was onboard yesterday mainly because I prefered killing him over SnB but oats is still pretty scummy. Sadly town oats often is pretty scummy too so you can never be sure with that one. I was concerned that he couldn't defend himself but he returned and what he said was crap so I had no problem killing him. I still don't but I don't give in to the illusion that I am able to distinguish between antitown and scum oats very well.
I will read that Foolishness wall of text tomorrow...
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Foolishness, that says a LOT about not-oats, when yesterday you were looking over him and snb at one point, and proceeded to just say nothing at all about oats ever. Including more or less up until now, because all this other stuff is real work and the oats bit is just him having a weak vote and being absent.
This bit I'm not really sure what this says about Oatsmaster (if anything) given that he was second in line to be lynched. What I do know is that mafia were very content with how things played out yesterday and did not fear one of their own getting killed. This means that the vast majority (if not all) of the mafia team were sitting back and sheeping along, because why would you put yourself out there to get townie's lynched when you can just let the town do it for you? also doesn't quite jive with this bit Oastmaster [sic]
You don't have to draw conclusions, you can be not really sure, but ... a red oats means mafia probably was NOT content with how things played out yesterday.
Talk to me about oats and why he's mafia for doing scummy stuff and not for doing things that 2/3 the game is doing.
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Ok, I couldn't resist to read it... Foolishness you should not base your view on the game on speculation about if the lynch was controlled by mafia or not. As long as we don't know more alignments it leads nowhere. Also I really don't see why you clear people just because they had their own reasoning for voting SnB. I mean that's the thing to do as mafia - justifying your vote, isn't it? I don't see why BH has to be town from that in any way for example.
On April 30 2014 08:04 austinmcc wrote:Foolishness, that says a LOT about not-oats, when yesterday you were looking over him and snb at one point, and proceeded to just say nothing at all about oats ever. Including more or less up until now, because all this other stuff is real work and the oats bit is just him having a weak vote and being absent. This bit Show nested quote +I'm not really sure what this says about Oatsmaster (if anything) given that he was second in line to be lynched. What I do know is that mafia were very content with how things played out yesterday and did not fear one of their own getting killed. This means that the vast majority (if not all) of the mafia team were sitting back and sheeping along, because why would you put yourself out there to get townie's lynched when you can just let the town do it for you? also doesn't quite jive with this bit [sic] You don't have to draw conclusions, you can be not really sure, but ... a red oats means mafia probably was NOT content with how things played out yesterday. Talk to me about oats and why he's mafia for doing scummy stuff and not for doing things that 2/3 the game is doing. This is a very good post. Your narrative makes no sense if you actually think oats is scum Foolishness.
BANKS, I would be really upset if you shot Koshi right now. Don't do it. Hold your shot at least until later in the day.
Now I am gone for real...
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Suck it phil. Your argument collapsed on top of itself. You talk about how I am lazy and apathetic and then say that after I sheeped you I pretended to draw the same conclusion. The real reason was because I just went WOOOO VOTE SNB, then went and did other things, then eventually came back and read it when I stopped being lazy.
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On April 30 2014 07:46 VayneAuthority wrote: yea i'd say anyone pushing foolishness is suspicious as fuck. his reads are good besides WoS, that guy would not play this terrible as scum he barely ever gets to play it. LOL VAYNE Fucking dismantled his whole case with like 5 words
Hmm Vayne isn't usually this insightful as scum. I guess I'm pretty easy to be won over when people read me right.
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@ Foolishness, Did you read my case on Koshi? At first I thought it was one of the two of you just from reading and after filter diving Koshi I feel like what he did was get a snowball rolling and instead of pushing it let you get behind it and do the leg work and slightly cheer on the sidelines "go team" knowing SNB was town and defending his potential buddy in Oats more than pushing his lynch. I really liked your post you bring up RoL sheeping you and I read his filter after your post and he really hasn't done much at all and not coming through with his promise is scummy. My question is him sheeping you is odd what do you think of Koshi's post here:
On April 27 2014 06:46 Koshi wrote: I am sorry but if Foolishness says you are scum. You are scum. No need to second guess it.
##Vote: prphlz
Especially when Koshi follows it up saying he thinks prphlz might be town/doesn't know why hes scummy but basically hes voting because you said so??? + Show Spoiler +On April 27 2014 07:13 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2014 07:05 justanothertownie wrote:On April 27 2014 06:56 Koshi wrote: GREAT ANALYSIS JAT. REALLY NICE. VERY THOUGHTFUL.
Above message is sarcastic.
The reason to why it is sarcastic is because you don't give any input at all about prplhz his alignment. You use meta I think. But the only thing I remember in Foolishness his meta is pure gold and awesomeness.
But even if there is something. Are you saying because foolishness once said that a guy was scum while he was town it now counts for all future games?
Your blind worshipping is just getting on my nerves tbh. Foolishness did exactly this to WoS in the shadow game. As long as almighty Foolishness doesn't explain to me why prplhz is scummy I will just ignore him and you should too. At least if you have no scumread on that guy on your own. I literally do this in every game marv is in and you never have a problem with it. You are even pushing me away to have marv his penis for you alone. Now suddenly it is a problem I follow the great Foolishness? I don't know what it is that makes prplhz scummy. I see: 1) trying to help town atmosphere saying stuff that is good for town atmosphere in theory. Then also votes Caller and gives reasoning. Asks a question to VE that probably has nothing to do with scumhunting. Asks the guys who think Caller is town why they think Caller is town. 2) Helping people who can't read the OP. Asking some questions to Ace that might not have anything to do with scumhunting. 3) Tell Oats he is wrong and Caller is scum. 4) Telling Caller he is scum. 5) Telling the thread Caller is scum. So I am going on blind trust here.
Foolishness town hero.
Can you go into a bit further detail on what you think of Palmer? like basically you're saying "I think he's town but I'd vote he's also not the best case" Ill look through your filter for a case you have on Palmer after this but I don't recall it.
@town I Think Koshi is most definitely the scum between Foolish and Koshi.... look at the way they've played the game Koshi brings up a case on SNB but doesn't ever really push it he also defends the other lynch candidate Oats who if you read Austin's case looks scummy as well. I feel like he also REALLY wanted the Geript kill to be meaningful and brought it up very very quickly after the day start something I think mafia does because they know who is going to die. I am most likely shooting Koshi before days end unless some people I find townie can convince me otherwise (I'm looking at you austin, odin, ace, palmer, foolish). I think the lynch needs to be between Oats/WoS/BH/RoL I am going to read filters on them and decide where to place my vote. Koshi you have about 12 hours or so to convince me you're town or you'll be the proud owner of a bullet!
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On April 30 2014 08:04 austinmcc wrote:Foolishness, that says a LOT about not-oats, when yesterday you were looking over him and snb at one point, and proceeded to just say nothing at all about oats ever. Including more or less up until now, because all this other stuff is real work and the oats bit is just him having a weak vote and being absent. This bit Show nested quote +I'm not really sure what this says about Oatsmaster (if anything) given that he was second in line to be lynched. What I do know is that mafia were very content with how things played out yesterday and did not fear one of their own getting killed. This means that the vast majority (if not all) of the mafia team were sitting back and sheeping along, because why would you put yourself out there to get townie's lynched when you can just let the town do it for you? also doesn't quite jive with this bit [sic] You don't have to draw conclusions, you can be not really sure, but ... a red oats means mafia probably was NOT content with how things played out yesterday. Talk to me about oats and why he's mafia for doing scummy stuff and not for doing things that 2/3 the game is doing. You misunderstand. That paragraph means I don't know if that in itself says anything about Oats. I read that particularly thing as neutral. If you think that if Oats was mafia then more drama would have happened yesterday I can respect that.
Also weren't you the one saying Oats was mafia post after post?
On April 30 2014 08:34 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Suck it phil. Your argument collapsed on top of itself. You talk about how I am lazy and apathetic and then say that after I sheeped you I pretended to draw the same conclusion. The real reason was because I just went WOOOO VOTE SNB, then went and did other things, then eventually came back and read it when I stopped being lazy. I love you too <3
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Whats with all these lurkers coming back and calling me scum???
So many sheeples.
Poofter why do you keep pussyfooting around about shooting a dude? Shoot or dont, dont wave your gun around trying to scare people.
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DOES THAT MEAN YOU TAKE IT BACK?!
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On April 30 2014 08:45 Oatsmaster wrote: Whats with all these lurkers coming back and calling me scum???
So many sheeples.
Poofter why do you keep pussyfooting around about shooting a dude? Shoot or dont, dont wave your gun around trying to scare people.
When you act scummy people call you scum shockingly enough. Read austin's filter I'd say 70% of it is a case on you. Who should we be sheeping Oats?
I also am not going to just rando shoot this is my first time having a gun in forum mafia and I don't really want to be wrong I'd love to be able to say I always shoot mafia sort of thing post game so I am giving Koshi a chance to explain himself. Besides the day is not even half over some people haven't posted since the night phase maybe we have a cop with a red check or something that a day vig could help solve.
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So why are only the scummy people voting for me poof? If im so super scum and austins case is based on reality then I should get wrecked right? Funny that its not happening. Maybe its because his case is not right. Which begs the question, what exactly are you sheeping? Is this innocent ignorence or intentional malice?
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Dont you have any opinions poof? Seems like you dont want to take responsibility for your shot. Do you think gumshoe is town poof?
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Foolishness is scum too btw in case anyone is still in doubt.
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On April 30 2014 09:41 Oatsmaster wrote: Foolishness is scum too btw in case anyone is still in doubt. Why do you think that?
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On April 30 2014 08:40 Tehpoofter wrote:@ Foolishness, Did you read my case on Koshi? At first I thought it was one of the two of you just from reading and after filter diving Koshi I feel like what he did was get a snowball rolling and instead of pushing it let you get behind it and do the leg work and slightly cheer on the sidelines "go team" knowing SNB was town and defending his potential buddy in Oats more than pushing his lynch. I really liked your post you bring up RoL sheeping you and I read his filter after your post and he really hasn't done much at all and not coming through with his promise is scummy. My question is him sheeping you is odd what do you think of Koshi's post here: Show nested quote +On April 27 2014 06:46 Koshi wrote: I am sorry but if Foolishness says you are scum. You are scum. No need to second guess it.
##Vote: prphlz Especially when Koshi follows it up saying he thinks prphlz might be town/doesn't know why hes scummy but basically hes voting because you said so??? + Show Spoiler +On April 27 2014 07:13 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2014 07:05 justanothertownie wrote:On April 27 2014 06:56 Koshi wrote: GREAT ANALYSIS JAT. REALLY NICE. VERY THOUGHTFUL.
Above message is sarcastic.
The reason to why it is sarcastic is because you don't give any input at all about prplhz his alignment. You use meta I think. But the only thing I remember in Foolishness his meta is pure gold and awesomeness.
But even if there is something. Are you saying because foolishness once said that a guy was scum while he was town it now counts for all future games?
Your blind worshipping is just getting on my nerves tbh. Foolishness did exactly this to WoS in the shadow game. As long as almighty Foolishness doesn't explain to me why prplhz is scummy I will just ignore him and you should too. At least if you have no scumread on that guy on your own. I literally do this in every game marv is in and you never have a problem with it. You are even pushing me away to have marv his penis for you alone. Now suddenly it is a problem I follow the great Foolishness? I don't know what it is that makes prplhz scummy. I see: 1) trying to help town atmosphere saying stuff that is good for town atmosphere in theory. Then also votes Caller and gives reasoning. Asks a question to VE that probably has nothing to do with scumhunting. Asks the guys who think Caller is town why they think Caller is town. 2) Helping people who can't read the OP. Asking some questions to Ace that might not have anything to do with scumhunting. 3) Tell Oats he is wrong and Caller is scum. 4) Telling Caller he is scum. 5) Telling the thread Caller is scum. So I am going on blind trust here.
Foolishness town hero. Can you go into a bit further detail on what you think of Palmer? like basically you're saying "I think he's town but I'd vote he's also not the best case" Ill look through your filter for a case you have on Palmer after this but I don't recall it. @town I Think Koshi is most definitely the scum between Foolish and Koshi.... look at the way they've played the game Koshi brings up a case on SNB but doesn't ever really push it he also defends the other lynch candidate Oats who if you read Austin's case looks scummy as well. I feel like he also REALLY wanted the Geript kill to be meaningful and brought it up very very quickly after the day start something I think mafia does because they know who is going to die. I am most likely shooting Koshi before days end unless some people I find townie can convince me otherwise (I'm looking at you austin, odin, ace, palmer, foolish). I think the lynch needs to be between Oats/WoS/BH/RoL I am going to read filters on them and decide where to place my vote. Koshi you have about 12 hours or so to convince me you're town or you'll be the proud owner of a bullet! Koshi was one of the few posting things of substance yesterday so I thought he was town. I agree with you that his flip-flop-ness is questionable. I haven't looked at any of his past games (yet) so I'm not sure how normal this is for him. I do think you bring up some good points though, not sure if I'd shoot him yet.
I'm just going to change my Palmar read status to: "I don't know". Thought he was town, but maybe not cause he had that bad post where he gave a bunch of reads day 1. Thought he was town again, but him dying would answer a lot of questions I think. I don't know. Would not bat an eye if he died.
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Also I would lynch gumshoe without hesitation.
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On April 30 2014 09:36 Oatsmaster wrote: So why are only the scummy people voting for me poof? If im so super scum and austins case is based on reality then I should get wrecked right? Funny that its not happening. Maybe its because his case is not right. Which begs the question, what exactly are you sheeping? Is this innocent ignorence or intentional malice?
You only have one vote on you in gumshoe atm. Austin I know would vote you in a heartbeat. I think it is odd more people aren't wanting to vote on you too lynch there has been quite a few new cases brought up today on people who didn't get much talk day one. My koshi case, BH, RoL to name a few. I am of course partial to my own case I liked Foolishness's on RoL too. My only reservation on you Oats is that I've read you incorrectly in the two games we played in (Titanic and Catastophe) both times I called you wrong.
I also don't like this thing where people don't really defend themselves against an accusation. Koshi just did his whole "I'm town guys for the realz" and RoL just put out a small 1 line defense then kinda sucked up to Foolishness: + Show Spoiler +On April 30 2014 08:34 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Suck it phil. Your argument collapsed on top of itself. You talk about how I am lazy and apathetic and then say that after I sheeped you I pretended to draw the same conclusion. The real reason was because I just went WOOOO VOTE SNB, then went and did other things, then eventually came back and read it when I stopped being lazy. On April 30 2014 08:49 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: DOES THAT MEAN YOU TAKE IT BACK?! On April 30 2014 08:49 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: TUNNEL BUDDIES 4 LYFE?
I need more than that like stand up and fight if you're town if you're scum feel free to continue as is.
##Vote: RebirthOfLeGenD
Voting you but Koshi I'm still shooting you until further notice.
@JAT where are you on WoS?
@Slam I might regret this but what are your reads atm? If you had another shot where would you be pointing your gun?
@Odin/Ace where you at? How do you guys feel about RoL? (Austin you can answer as well)
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What was there to defend? If I actually thought it was a threat of some kind I probably would of ignored it.
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