Am disappointed to have found so few and no blue barred admin posts
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
Am disappointed to have found so few and no blue barred admin posts | ||
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Jollibee19343 Posts
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
Just a thought. | ||
GranDGranT
Sri Lanka2141 Posts
Just a thought. | ||
beesinyoface
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Mahashivatri
Argentina3 Posts
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
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Rho_
United States971 Posts
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MidgetExplosion
United States137 Posts
On March 13 2014 10:22 SilentchiLL wrote: Yes, good friend, bringing your personal problems in the team to the media as a professional athlete or making a blogpost about it as a pro-gamer is generally considered unprofessional and just like you shouldn't say bad things about others behind their backs, you especially shouldn't do what Fluff did without talking to your teammates. And please refrain from double or tripleposting without reason, you can just use the edit button at the top right of your posts. M8, taboos like this usually exist for a reason. I had no intention of offending you here, but your response reads like I definitely did in some way. I'm well aware that this is "generally considered unprofessional" but what I'm doing is questioning that. I believe that what makes things like this be considered unprofessional is most people do and think things they shouldn't. And so to stay professional you should hide these things because "we don't want the public to find out about these things or they might think ill of us." Maybe if you don't want the public to know about something that's happening then you shouldn't be doing it in the first place. I believe that professionalism SHOULD come from being completely open and honest with the public and they should love you for it because you are real and not trying to hide anything. I'm well aware that this isn't the "General Consensus" but the past has shown that the general consensus of many things are just plain wrong and the only way to change that is growth. Taboos like this definitely do exist for a reason, and in my opinion that reason is wrong. In 1915 it was "generally considered" wrong for women to vote. Scholars such as yourself at the time would sit around telling people what is, while others were working to make the community actually grow out of silly general considerations. Hey look, I used the edit button. You're welcome. | ||
Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
I think you are a smart guy with a strong emotional intelligence, Fluff. But if you want to lead, you would want to befriend your mates, want to care for them, want to make them succeed. If this infectuates the ambiance of the team, then you have a team, that can compete. Winning is a mindset. So is teamwork. They do require action, not backseat steering. A team needs a heart and an engine. I hope you aren't anxious about leading, Fluff. Or even failing. Always just do the best you can, and you will never disappoint completely. It aches me how little the youth of today understand teambuilding and teamwork. At least in the West. | ||
MidgetExplosion
United States137 Posts
On March 13 2014 14:05 Dracolich70 wrote: I think you are a smart guy with a strong emotional intelligence, Fluff. But if you want to lead, you would want to befriend your mates, want to care for them, want to make them succeed. If this infectuates the ambiance of the team, then you have a team, that can compete. Winning is a mindset. So is teamwork. They do require action, not backseat steering. A team needs a heart and an engine. I hope you aren't anxious about leading, Fluff. Or even failing. Always just do the best you can, and you will never disappoint completely. Very well said, completely agree. Hopefully Fluff can change himself into being able to make Liquid'DOTA the team we all know they can be. Liquid Fighting! | ||
Yamoth
United States315 Posts
On March 13 2014 14:00 MidgetExplosion wrote: I had no intention of offending you here, but your response reads like I definitely did in some way. I'm well aware that this is "generally considered unprofessional" but what I'm doing is questioning that. I believe that what makes things like this be considered unprofessional is most people do and think things they shouldn't. And so to stay professional you should hide these things because "we don't want the public to find out about these things or they might think ill of us." Maybe if you don't want the public to know about something that's happening then you shouldn't be doing it in the first place. I believe that professionalism SHOULD come from being completely open and honest with the public and they should love you for it because you are real and not trying to hide anything. I'm well aware that this isn't the "General Consensus" but the past has shown that the general consensus of many things are just plain wrong and the only way to change that is growth. Taboos like this definitely do exist for a reason, and in my opinion that reason is wrong. In 1915 it was "generally considered" wrong for women to vote. Scholars such as yourself at the time would sit around telling people what is, while others were working to make the community actually grow out of silly general considerations. Hey look, I used the edit button. You're welcome. Professionalism is giving the other party a chance to resolve the problem before you air it for the entire community to see. It is just a dick move that makes everyone look bad (especially himself). I don't really have a problem with his post, and I think most of the community doesn't neither. It is the timing of it all that irks me. | ||
Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
Maybe it got his teams attention, and if they are a good team, they will respond to it, contemplate, and fix things, if fixable, and hopefully go in the right direction with good leadership, and good teamspirit qualities, backing your fellow man. | ||
Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
On March 13 2014 11:51 Darpa wrote: Political bullshit? I dont think you understand what that means. Its more about respect. Respect in the managers who put the team together, respect to the team that employs him, respect to your teammates by not alienating them (which this does by demanding them to follow him or "get out of his way"). It would be like me going out to my companies sales conference and bitching to all our reps about how shitty my situation on my team has been whether it was my teams fault or not. How would my team feel about that after? pretty fucking irritated. It's completely and utterly juvenile. Poltical is a shallow way of communication that doesn't convey or take into account emotion. It's useless to try and argue what Fluff should do on a political level when clearly he's writing from an emotional point of view. Hence political bullshit. Fluff is probably going to make more progress with his possibly offensive rant than in the entirety of 2013 being political. | ||
Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On March 13 2014 14:47 Saechiis wrote: Poltical is a shallow way of communication that doesn't convey or take into account emotion. It's useless to try and argue what Fluff should do on a political level when clearly he's writing from an emotional point of view. Hence political bullshit. Fluff is probably going to make more progress with his possibly offensive rant than in the entirety of 2013 being political. Except, according to him, he wasn't very political in 2013. Just a lot of passive-aggressive attitude towards his own team, and zero communication. But yeah, he probably will make a lot more progress. One year of building up negativity, and one single post to push it to breaking point. Good job, I guess? | ||
Nedereden
777 Posts
If you need to Crash and Burn, you're not alone, Fluff! Damn I miss the 90s... | ||
SilentchiLL
Germany1405 Posts
On March 13 2014 14:00 MidgetExplosion wrote: I had no intention of offending you here, but your response reads like I definitely did in some way. I'm well aware that this is "generally considered unprofessional" but what I'm doing is questioning that. I believe that what makes things like this be considered unprofessional is most people do and think things they shouldn't. And so to stay professional you should hide these things because "we don't want the public to find out about these things or they might think ill of us." Maybe if you don't want the public to know about something that's happening then you shouldn't be doing it in the first place. I believe that professionalism SHOULD come from being completely open and honest with the public and they should love you for it because you are real and not trying to hide anything. I'm well aware that this isn't the "General Consensus" but the past has shown that the general consensus of many things are just plain wrong and the only way to change that is growth. Taboos like this definitely do exist for a reason, and in my opinion that reason is wrong. In 1915 it was "generally considered" wrong for women to vote. Scholars such as yourself at the time would sit around telling people what is, while others were working to make the community actually grow out of silly general considerations. Hey look, I used the edit button. You're welcome. You didn't offend me at all, you didn't get the point of my post and your analogy is completely unfitting. To make this short, by doing this openly instead of handling it privately, since it is a private matter after all, Fluff treated his team in a way which no teamplayer ever should, Yamoth and a lot of other people here see the obvious problem with that. And save yourself the sarcastic tone, this barely qualifies as an argument so there's really no reason to become agressive in any way here. | ||
Erasme
Bahamas15897 Posts
you do understand that with this ultimatum, you're much easier to kick right | ||
AwfuL_
Netherlands6976 Posts
On March 13 2014 13:13 Mahashivatri wrote: I like how he talks about Fire/Col like it was a good team that achieved anything, they had a winning streak when they came to the scene because no one knew how to play against them (happens with every team that enters the scene IE: potm botm, AL, etc), never won a lan, or a any big tournament, couldnt even place top8 at TI2, stop deluding yourself into thinking Col was some kind of super memorable team that played amazing dota. At least the team always had some well thought out gameplan and knew what to do when behind. And you make it sound like they completely bombed at TI2, while they were actually second in their groupstages and were eliminated in a bo1 against EHOME. Just one win away from top 8. | ||
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