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On December 05 2013 22:00 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 22:00 DarkLordOlli wrote:On December 05 2013 21:59 Lorning wrote:On December 05 2013 21:58 opterown wrote:On December 05 2013 21:56 Wintex wrote:
Thank you LR scum. You remind me why I never come here now. I told you Bomber would entertain, but all you do is shitpost.
GG no re. If anyone wants to talk StarCraft, I'll be on skype. wintex95 trashing and needling will just be a part of this, months of dodgin needling me about MKP maded me mostly immune to anything, it's just eh but whatever "I hope MKP loses so I can see him cry" fuck those days So you like it better now that he's gone? D: No ;.;
Definitely no :'((
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On December 05 2013 22:03 Swiipii wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 21:59 vthree wrote:On December 05 2013 21:56 foxmeep wrote:
Tanks are still pretty damn good. That push was going to be fkn scary for Soulkey, but his counter threw Bomber off big time. Yeah, but any decent Zerg would have countered... Yeah, if Zerg lets you walk around the map and get sieges, yea, tanks are great. But unless you have a big lead, the Zerg will never let you do that. And any decent Terran wouldn't lost 7 siege tanks for nothing. :p He didn't need his full army to defend and a wall of supply with a single tank on the high ground would have do wonders. I remember a game against Violet on Cloud Kingdom where he did just that. 2 tanks + a bunker and a wall of supplys held Violet's counter attack and crushed the Zerg.
Mutas come pick off the tank... SK is much better than Violet.
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On December 05 2013 22:00 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 21:56 foxmeep wrote:
Tanks are still pretty damn good. That push was going to be fkn scary for Soulkey, but his counter threw Bomber off big time. So your saying tanks are great in a straight up fight? That is also the only time they are great. Soulkey showed their huge weakness and took advantage of it.
Bomber left himself way too open though, even a tank on the high ground at his ramp would've helped. Terran normally doesn't let you run ling/bane all the way in to the main.
Tbh Bomber just couldn't keep up with Soulkey being everywhere at once.
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The Iron Wall doesn't break to a few bombs.
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On December 05 2013 22:06 foxmeep wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 22:00 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:On December 05 2013 21:56 foxmeep wrote:
Tanks are still pretty damn good. That push was going to be fkn scary for Soulkey, but his counter threw Bomber off big time. So your saying tanks are great in a straight up fight? That is also the only time they are great. Soulkey showed their huge weakness and took advantage of it. Bomber left himself way too open though, even a tank on the high ground at his ramp would've helped. Terran normally doesn't let you run ling/bane all the way in to the main. Tbh Bomber just couldn't keep up with Soulkey being everywhere at once.
Because the Terran side requires way more attention in this kind of situation.
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On December 05 2013 22:06 foxmeep wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 22:00 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:On December 05 2013 21:56 foxmeep wrote:
Tanks are still pretty damn good. That push was going to be fkn scary for Soulkey, but his counter threw Bomber off big time. So your saying tanks are great in a straight up fight? That is also the only time they are great. Soulkey showed their huge weakness and took advantage of it. Bomber left himself way too open though, even a tank on the high ground at his ramp would've helped. Terran normally doesn't let you run ling/bane all the way in to the main. Tbh Bomber just couldn't keep up with Soulkey being everywhere at once.
No, it's tank bio being bad vs zerg. Rather go 3m or 4m.
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On December 05 2013 22:06 foxmeep wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 22:00 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:On December 05 2013 21:56 foxmeep wrote:
Tanks are still pretty damn good. That push was going to be fkn scary for Soulkey, but his counter threw Bomber off big time. So your saying tanks are great in a straight up fight? That is also the only time they are great. Soulkey showed their huge weakness and took advantage of it. Bomber left himself way too open though, even a tank on the high ground at his ramp would've helped. Terran normally doesn't let you run ling/bane all the way in to the main. Tbh Bomber just couldn't keep up with Soulkey being everywhere at once.
Ling bling muta is much easier to control compare the tank marine when moving out onto the map. The zergs can choose where and when they want to engage.
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thank god there aren't two mirror match-ups in the semis.
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On December 05 2013 22:06 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 22:03 Swiipii wrote:On December 05 2013 21:59 vthree wrote:On December 05 2013 21:56 foxmeep wrote:
Tanks are still pretty damn good. That push was going to be fkn scary for Soulkey, but his counter threw Bomber off big time. Yeah, but any decent Zerg would have countered... Yeah, if Zerg lets you walk around the map and get sieges, yea, tanks are great. But unless you have a big lead, the Zerg will never let you do that. And any decent Terran wouldn't lost 7 siege tanks for nothing. :p He didn't need his full army to defend and a wall of supply with a single tank on the high ground would have do wonders. I remember a game against Violet on Cloud Kingdom where he did just that. 2 tanks + a bunker and a wall of supplys held Violet's counter attack and crushed the Zerg. Mutas come pick off the tank... SK is much better than Violet.
There were no mutalisks with the ling/bane counter attack. -_- And even 20 mutalisks don't do great against a bunker and 16 marines.
I think marine/tank is bad against Zerg but in this game Bomber could have win just by saving those tanks and defending a bit better.
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your Country52797 Posts
On December 05 2013 07:31 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 07:19 The_Templar wrote:On December 05 2013 07:04 Zealously wrote:On December 05 2013 05:51 The_Templar wrote:
Maru 3-1 soO
Bomber 2-3 Soulkey
^this is what TL writers will predict too Nope well you should have, because that's what's going to happen Nope
yeah ok
I woke up and saw bomber 2-0, knew he was going to lose anyway
and poor wintex 
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Wow Wintex was angry today
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Rain looked quite a bit better yesterday. I believe.
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On December 05 2013 22:09 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 22:06 foxmeep wrote:On December 05 2013 22:00 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:On December 05 2013 21:56 foxmeep wrote:
Tanks are still pretty damn good. That push was going to be fkn scary for Soulkey, but his counter threw Bomber off big time. So your saying tanks are great in a straight up fight? That is also the only time they are great. Soulkey showed their huge weakness and took advantage of it. Bomber left himself way too open though, even a tank on the high ground at his ramp would've helped. Terran normally doesn't let you run ling/bane all the way in to the main. Tbh Bomber just couldn't keep up with Soulkey being everywhere at once. Ling bling muta is much easier to control compare the tank marine when moving out onto the map. The zergs can choose where and when they want to engage.
This is true. Nevertheless, Bomber's biggest weakness is his low multitasking ability.
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Austria24416 Posts
Wintex got temp banned D:
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On December 05 2013 22:11 Swiipii wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 22:06 vthree wrote:On December 05 2013 22:03 Swiipii wrote:On December 05 2013 21:59 vthree wrote:On December 05 2013 21:56 foxmeep wrote:
Tanks are still pretty damn good. That push was going to be fkn scary for Soulkey, but his counter threw Bomber off big time. Yeah, but any decent Zerg would have countered... Yeah, if Zerg lets you walk around the map and get sieges, yea, tanks are great. But unless you have a big lead, the Zerg will never let you do that. And any decent Terran wouldn't lost 7 siege tanks for nothing. :p He didn't need his full army to defend and a wall of supply with a single tank on the high ground would have do wonders. I remember a game against Violet on Cloud Kingdom where he did just that. 2 tanks + a bunker and a wall of supplys held Violet's counter attack and crushed the Zerg. Mutas come pick off the tank... SK is much better than Violet. There were no mutalisks with the ling/bane counter attack. -_- And even 20 mutalisks don't do great against a bunker and 16 marines. I think marine/tank is bad against Zerg but in this game Bomber could have win just by saving those tanks and defending a bit better.
The things is Bomber doesn't know that. Yes, if he splits his units perfectly and just barely holds the counter, he can win. But there is no way for him to know how much SK would counter with. If SK doesn't counter and just throws his whole army at the main force, then those 16 marines and 2 tanks aren't doing Bomber any good.
Pretty easy to tell a player how they should play when we have full vision. Bomber would have won g3 if he scouted as well.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On December 05 2013 22:13 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 07:31 Zealously wrote:On December 05 2013 07:19 The_Templar wrote:On December 05 2013 07:04 Zealously wrote:On December 05 2013 05:51 The_Templar wrote:
Maru 3-1 soO
Bomber 2-3 Soulkey
^this is what TL writers will predict too Nope well you should have, because that's what's going to happen Nope yeah ok I woke up and saw bomber 2-0, knew he was going to lose anyway and poor wintex
Well it didnt happen since Maru won 3-0 
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On December 05 2013 22:15 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Wintex got temp banned D:
Ouch, man. Poor guy D:
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Closed the stream when bomber was up 2-0. I wanted sk to come back and win somehow but didn't expect it would actually happen. Welp, bomber's lawl or whatever I guess.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
I remember preemptively asking for a ban when Life lost a game to Snute at IPL because I knew I'd get into a fight otherwise
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At the moment of the runby it was quite understandable for Bomber to forget the tanks. He was focused on saving his SCVs and making sure his marines just don't run straight into banelings. In hindsight though, would it be better for him just to press on for the baserace? With so much committed to the runby I don't see Soulkey holding the push, and Bomber could always float his main and natural, while his third could still mine for a while longer.
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