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shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
December 05 2013 13:25 GMT
#1181
On December 05 2013 22:04 PanzerElite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 22:03 Swiipii wrote:
On December 05 2013 21:59 vthree wrote:
On December 05 2013 21:56 foxmeep wrote:
Tanks are still pretty damn good. That push was going to be fkn scary for Soulkey, but his counter threw Bomber off big time.


Yeah, but any decent Zerg would have countered... Yeah, if Zerg lets you walk around the map and get sieges, yea, tanks are great. But unless you have a big lead, the Zerg will never let you do that.

And any decent Terran wouldn't lost 7 siege tanks for nothing. :p He didn't need his full army to defend and a wall of supply with a single tank on the high ground would have do wonders.

I remember a game against Violet on Cloud Kingdom where he did just that. 2 tanks + a bunker and a wall of supplys held Violet's counter attack and crushed the Zerg.

Any decent terran? rofl, Bomber is one of the best on the fucking planet.


not at TvZ, it seems.
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
December 05 2013 13:25 GMT
#1182
Bah, apparently i missed Soulkey doing reverse-sweep.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-05 13:28:29
December 05 2013 13:27 GMT
#1183
On December 05 2013 22:25 shadymmj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 22:04 PanzerElite wrote:
On December 05 2013 22:03 Swiipii wrote:
On December 05 2013 21:59 vthree wrote:
On December 05 2013 21:56 foxmeep wrote:
Tanks are still pretty damn good. That push was going to be fkn scary for Soulkey, but his counter threw Bomber off big time.


Yeah, but any decent Zerg would have countered... Yeah, if Zerg lets you walk around the map and get sieges, yea, tanks are great. But unless you have a big lead, the Zerg will never let you do that.

And any decent Terran wouldn't lost 7 siege tanks for nothing. :p He didn't need his full army to defend and a wall of supply with a single tank on the high ground would have do wonders.

I remember a game against Violet on Cloud Kingdom where he did just that. 2 tanks + a bunker and a wall of supplys held Violet's counter attack and crushed the Zerg.

Any decent terran? rofl, Bomber is one of the best on the fucking planet.


not at TvZ, it seems.


Amazing players never lose to other amazing players.

When two champs fight, the match usually just ends in a draw.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 05 2013 13:28 GMT
#1184
On December 05 2013 22:25 shadymmj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 22:04 PanzerElite wrote:
On December 05 2013 22:03 Swiipii wrote:
On December 05 2013 21:59 vthree wrote:
On December 05 2013 21:56 foxmeep wrote:
Tanks are still pretty damn good. That push was going to be fkn scary for Soulkey, but his counter threw Bomber off big time.


Yeah, but any decent Zerg would have countered... Yeah, if Zerg lets you walk around the map and get sieges, yea, tanks are great. But unless you have a big lead, the Zerg will never let you do that.

And any decent Terran wouldn't lost 7 siege tanks for nothing. :p He didn't need his full army to defend and a wall of supply with a single tank on the high ground would have do wonders.

I remember a game against Violet on Cloud Kingdom where he did just that. 2 tanks + a bunker and a wall of supplys held Violet's counter attack and crushed the Zerg.

Any decent terran? rofl, Bomber is one of the best on the fucking planet.


not at TvZ, it seems.

Of course he is
AdministratorBreak the chains
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
December 05 2013 13:31 GMT
#1185
On December 05 2013 22:22 Zealously wrote:
I remember preemptively asking for a ban when Life lost a game to Snute at IPL because I knew I'd get into a fight otherwise


Didn't Snute win that series?
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 05 2013 13:35 GMT
#1186
On December 05 2013 22:31 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 22:22 Zealously wrote:
I remember preemptively asking for a ban when Life lost a game to Snute at IPL because I knew I'd get into a fight otherwise


Didn't Snute win that series?

Yes
AdministratorBreak the chains
illidanx
Profile Joined November 2011
United States973 Posts
December 05 2013 13:40 GMT
#1187
bomber did not disappoint!
Die-hard KeSPA fan
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
December 05 2013 13:42 GMT
#1188
On December 05 2013 22:17 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 22:11 Swiipii wrote:
On December 05 2013 22:06 vthree wrote:
On December 05 2013 22:03 Swiipii wrote:
On December 05 2013 21:59 vthree wrote:
On December 05 2013 21:56 foxmeep wrote:
Tanks are still pretty damn good. That push was going to be fkn scary for Soulkey, but his counter threw Bomber off big time.


Yeah, but any decent Zerg would have countered... Yeah, if Zerg lets you walk around the map and get sieges, yea, tanks are great. But unless you have a big lead, the Zerg will never let you do that.

And any decent Terran wouldn't lost 7 siege tanks for nothing. :p He didn't need his full army to defend and a wall of supply with a single tank on the high ground would have do wonders.

I remember a game against Violet on Cloud Kingdom where he did just that. 2 tanks + a bunker and a wall of supplys held Violet's counter attack and crushed the Zerg.


Mutas come pick off the tank... SK is much better than Violet.

There were no mutalisks with the ling/bane counter attack. -_- And even 20 mutalisks don't do great against a bunker and 16 marines.

I think marine/tank is bad against Zerg but in this game Bomber could have win just by saving those tanks and defending a bit better.


The things is Bomber doesn't know that. Yes, if he splits his units perfectly and just barely holds the counter, he can win. But there is no way for him to know how much SK would counter with. If SK doesn't counter and just throws his whole army at the main force, then those 16 marines and 2 tanks aren't doing Bomber any good.

Pretty easy to tell a player how they should play when we have full vision. Bomber would have won g3 if he scouted as well.

So .. when your play is worst than your opponent's you lose? Amazing right?
MangoMountain
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2044 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-05 13:51:35
December 05 2013 13:51 GMT
#1189
On December 05 2013 22:42 Swiipii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 22:17 vthree wrote:
On December 05 2013 22:11 Swiipii wrote:
On December 05 2013 22:06 vthree wrote:
On December 05 2013 22:03 Swiipii wrote:
On December 05 2013 21:59 vthree wrote:
On December 05 2013 21:56 foxmeep wrote:
Tanks are still pretty damn good. That push was going to be fkn scary for Soulkey, but his counter threw Bomber off big time.


Yeah, but any decent Zerg would have countered... Yeah, if Zerg lets you walk around the map and get sieges, yea, tanks are great. But unless you have a big lead, the Zerg will never let you do that.

And any decent Terran wouldn't lost 7 siege tanks for nothing. :p He didn't need his full army to defend and a wall of supply with a single tank on the high ground would have do wonders.

I remember a game against Violet on Cloud Kingdom where he did just that. 2 tanks + a bunker and a wall of supplys held Violet's counter attack and crushed the Zerg.


Mutas come pick off the tank... SK is much better than Violet.

There were no mutalisks with the ling/bane counter attack. -_- And even 20 mutalisks don't do great against a bunker and 16 marines.

I think marine/tank is bad against Zerg but in this game Bomber could have win just by saving those tanks and defending a bit better.


The things is Bomber doesn't know that. Yes, if he splits his units perfectly and just barely holds the counter, he can win. But there is no way for him to know how much SK would counter with. If SK doesn't counter and just throws his whole army at the main force, then those 16 marines and 2 tanks aren't doing Bomber any good.

Pretty easy to tell a player how they should play when we have full vision. Bomber would have won g3 if he scouted as well.

So .. when your play is worst than your opponent's you lose? Amazing right?

But he made tanks, clearly he deserved to win that game regardless of how well he actually played
Aquila-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
516 Posts
December 05 2013 13:56 GMT
#1190
Are there Vods somewhere? I wanna see Maru vs Soo, do I really have to pay 80 euro to see 1 match? Wtf?
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
December 05 2013 13:57 GMT
#1191
On December 05 2013 22:56 Aquila- wrote:
Are there Vods somewhere? I wanna see Maru vs Soo, do I really have to pay 80 euro to see 1 match? Wtf?


You're really not missing out on much
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 05 2013 13:58 GMT
#1192
Oh fuck Bomber pulled an Innovation
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-05 14:07:16
December 05 2013 14:07 GMT
#1193
On December 05 2013 22:56 Aquila- wrote:
Are there Vods somewhere? I wanna see Maru vs Soo, do I really have to pay 80 euro to see 1 match? Wtf?

it's not 80$ it's 10$ for this tournament 80$ for the year(2014)
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ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-05 14:12:25
December 05 2013 14:12 GMT
#1194
On December 05 2013 22:17 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 22:11 Swiipii wrote:
On December 05 2013 22:06 vthree wrote:
On December 05 2013 22:03 Swiipii wrote:
On December 05 2013 21:59 vthree wrote:
On December 05 2013 21:56 foxmeep wrote:
Tanks are still pretty damn good. That push was going to be fkn scary for Soulkey, but his counter threw Bomber off big time.


Yeah, but any decent Zerg would have countered... Yeah, if Zerg lets you walk around the map and get sieges, yea, tanks are great. But unless you have a big lead, the Zerg will never let you do that.

And any decent Terran wouldn't lost 7 siege tanks for nothing. :p He didn't need his full army to defend and a wall of supply with a single tank on the high ground would have do wonders.

I remember a game against Violet on Cloud Kingdom where he did just that. 2 tanks + a bunker and a wall of supplys held Violet's counter attack and crushed the Zerg.


Mutas come pick off the tank... SK is much better than Violet.

There were no mutalisks with the ling/bane counter attack. -_- And even 20 mutalisks don't do great against a bunker and 16 marines.

I think marine/tank is bad against Zerg but in this game Bomber could have win just by saving those tanks and defending a bit better.


The things is Bomber doesn't know that. Yes, if he splits his units perfectly and just barely holds the counter, he can win. But there is no way for him to know how much SK would counter with. If SK doesn't counter and just throws his whole army at the main force, then those 16 marines and 2 tanks aren't doing Bomber any good.

Pretty easy to tell a player how they should play when we have full vision. Bomber would have won g3 if he scouted as well.

Sounds like you just have a problem with zerg in general lol Zerg can play that style in any matchup against any other style really, life is famous for his counter attacks.

And man, DAMN, are we ready to officially call Soulkey the comeback king?
SooYoung-Noona!
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
December 05 2013 14:16 GMT
#1195
On December 05 2013 23:12 ffadicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 22:17 vthree wrote:
On December 05 2013 22:11 Swiipii wrote:
On December 05 2013 22:06 vthree wrote:
On December 05 2013 22:03 Swiipii wrote:
On December 05 2013 21:59 vthree wrote:
On December 05 2013 21:56 foxmeep wrote:
Tanks are still pretty damn good. That push was going to be fkn scary for Soulkey, but his counter threw Bomber off big time.


Yeah, but any decent Zerg would have countered... Yeah, if Zerg lets you walk around the map and get sieges, yea, tanks are great. But unless you have a big lead, the Zerg will never let you do that.

And any decent Terran wouldn't lost 7 siege tanks for nothing. :p He didn't need his full army to defend and a wall of supply with a single tank on the high ground would have do wonders.

I remember a game against Violet on Cloud Kingdom where he did just that. 2 tanks + a bunker and a wall of supplys held Violet's counter attack and crushed the Zerg.


Mutas come pick off the tank... SK is much better than Violet.

There were no mutalisks with the ling/bane counter attack. -_- And even 20 mutalisks don't do great against a bunker and 16 marines.

I think marine/tank is bad against Zerg but in this game Bomber could have win just by saving those tanks and defending a bit better.


The things is Bomber doesn't know that. Yes, if he splits his units perfectly and just barely holds the counter, he can win. But there is no way for him to know how much SK would counter with. If SK doesn't counter and just throws his whole army at the main force, then those 16 marines and 2 tanks aren't doing Bomber any good.

Pretty easy to tell a player how they should play when we have full vision. Bomber would have won g3 if he scouted as well.

+ Show Spoiler +
Sounds like you just have a problem with zerg in general lol Zerg can play that style in any matchup against any other style really, life is famous for his counter attacks.


And man, DAMN, are we ready to officially call Soulkey the comeback king?

Hard to say if it was "comeback skillzzz0rz" or if it was Innovation and Bomber choking. Impressive nonetheless ^^
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-05 14:19:40
December 05 2013 14:19 GMT
#1196
Well you can't choke on nothing right? Something or someone's gotta do it for you

edit: unless you choke yourself and enjoy auto-erotic asphyxiation but that ruins my word play so fuck that
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
December 05 2013 14:25 GMT
#1197
On December 05 2013 23:19 lichter wrote:
Well you can't choke on nothing right? Something or someone's gotta do it for you

edit: unless you choke yourself and enjoy auto-erotic asphyxiation but that ruins my word play so fuck that

I find this post both disturbing and kinda hawt...
moo...for DRG
FatCat_13
Profile Joined July 2013
Russian Federation117 Posts
December 05 2013 14:33 GMT
#1198
does anybody know if Acer made Inno drop this in favor of ROG or it was his own decision to make?
Are you human? being...
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
December 05 2013 14:36 GMT
#1199
On December 05 2013 23:33 FatCat_13 wrote:
does anybody know if Acer made Inno drop this in favor of ROG or it was his own decision to make?

Acer's decision.
Hello
Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
December 05 2013 14:38 GMT
#1200
ST_Bummer only good at being inconsistent.
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