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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 05 2013 14:39 GMT
#1201
On December 05 2013 23:36 Keeemy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 23:33 FatCat_13 wrote:
does anybody know if Acer made Inno drop this in favor of ROG or it was his own decision to make?

Acer's decision.

I'm sure bogus had his input too
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Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
December 05 2013 14:43 GMT
#1202
On December 05 2013 23:38 Darrkhan wrote:
ST_Bummer only good at being inconsistent.

Thats kinda harsh, give the man some credit for being a macro beast atleast
Evenshade
Profile Joined July 2013
131 Posts
December 05 2013 14:52 GMT
#1203
On December 05 2013 23:39 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 23:36 Keeemy wrote:
On December 05 2013 23:33 FatCat_13 wrote:
does anybody know if Acer made Inno drop this in favor of ROG or it was his own decision to make?

Acer's decision.

I'm sure bogus had his input too

Pretty sure once you sign for a foreign team, you prioritize foreign tournaments with larger viewership. For obvious reasons.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 05 2013 14:59 GMT
#1204
On December 05 2013 23:25 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 23:19 lichter wrote:
Well you can't choke on nothing right? Something or someone's gotta do it for you

edit: unless you choke yourself and enjoy auto-erotic asphyxiation but that ruins my word play so fuck that

I find this post both disturbing and kinda hawt...


Choke on some bulgogi you nut

:D
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-05 15:19:44
December 05 2013 15:10 GMT
#1205
On December 05 2013 22:42 Swiipii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 22:17 vthree wrote:
On December 05 2013 22:11 Swiipii wrote:
On December 05 2013 22:06 vthree wrote:
On December 05 2013 22:03 Swiipii wrote:
On December 05 2013 21:59 vthree wrote:
On December 05 2013 21:56 foxmeep wrote:
Tanks are still pretty damn good. That push was going to be fkn scary for Soulkey, but his counter threw Bomber off big time.


Yeah, but any decent Zerg would have countered... Yeah, if Zerg lets you walk around the map and get sieges, yea, tanks are great. But unless you have a big lead, the Zerg will never let you do that.

And any decent Terran wouldn't lost 7 siege tanks for nothing. :p He didn't need his full army to defend and a wall of supply with a single tank on the high ground would have do wonders.

I remember a game against Violet on Cloud Kingdom where he did just that. 2 tanks + a bunker and a wall of supplys held Violet's counter attack and crushed the Zerg.


Mutas come pick off the tank... SK is much better than Violet.

There were no mutalisks with the ling/bane counter attack. -_- And even 20 mutalisks don't do great against a bunker and 16 marines.

I think marine/tank is bad against Zerg but in this game Bomber could have win just by saving those tanks and defending a bit better.


The things is Bomber doesn't know that. Yes, if he splits his units perfectly and just barely holds the counter, he can win. But there is no way for him to know how much SK would counter with. If SK doesn't counter and just throws his whole army at the main force, then those 16 marines and 2 tanks aren't doing Bomber any good.

Pretty easy to tell a player how they should play when we have full vision. Bomber would have won g3 if he scouted as well.

So .. when your play is worst than your opponent's you lose? Amazing right?


This is not just a Terran issue. It is the same issue with BLs and infestors as well. Why do we see so much less BL/infestors play? Because of immobility, Terran can drop and just take out all the expansions of Zerg. You could say that if you just had the right number of infestors and lings defending at each base, you would be fine. But you don't know whether it is a single drop or double drop or doom drop coming. Hell, by your reasoning, Zerg should never even lose 1 drone from drops because the right number of units should always be in position, right?
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-05 15:19:19
December 05 2013 15:16 GMT
#1206
On December 05 2013 23:12 ffadicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 22:17 vthree wrote:
On December 05 2013 22:11 Swiipii wrote:
On December 05 2013 22:06 vthree wrote:
On December 05 2013 22:03 Swiipii wrote:
On December 05 2013 21:59 vthree wrote:
On December 05 2013 21:56 foxmeep wrote:
Tanks are still pretty damn good. That push was going to be fkn scary for Soulkey, but his counter threw Bomber off big time.


Yeah, but any decent Zerg would have countered... Yeah, if Zerg lets you walk around the map and get sieges, yea, tanks are great. But unless you have a big lead, the Zerg will never let you do that.

And any decent Terran wouldn't lost 7 siege tanks for nothing. :p He didn't need his full army to defend and a wall of supply with a single tank on the high ground would have do wonders.

I remember a game against Violet on Cloud Kingdom where he did just that. 2 tanks + a bunker and a wall of supplys held Violet's counter attack and crushed the Zerg.


Mutas come pick off the tank... SK is much better than Violet.

There were no mutalisks with the ling/bane counter attack. -_- And even 20 mutalisks don't do great against a bunker and 16 marines.

I think marine/tank is bad against Zerg but in this game Bomber could have win just by saving those tanks and defending a bit better.


The things is Bomber doesn't know that. Yes, if he splits his units perfectly and just barely holds the counter, he can win. But there is no way for him to know how much SK would counter with. If SK doesn't counter and just throws his whole army at the main force, then those 16 marines and 2 tanks aren't doing Bomber any good.

Pretty easy to tell a player how they should play when we have full vision. Bomber would have won g3 if he scouted as well.

Sounds like you just have a problem with zerg in general lol Zerg can play that style in any matchup against any other style really, life is famous for his counter attacks.

And man, DAMN, are we ready to officially call Soulkey the comeback king?


Yes, and counters work well vs all comps. But bio is much faster pull back or go for a straight base race. Tanks get caught in the middle a lot more. It is the same reason why zergs go ling bling muta instead of infestors. In a straight up fight, even with the new fungals, infestors are probably better. But the Terran sees this and just drops all over the place. You could argue that with the perfect unit spread, you can defend all your bases. But why do most top zergs still go with Mutas? Because it is a guess to see how many units you need at each base to defend drops.

It is like in PvZ, if you are morphing BLs on zergs side of the map to hold off a push. You are pretty much screwed because the Protoss is never going to let you move across the map with BLs.
FatCat_13
Profile Joined July 2013
Russian Federation117 Posts
December 05 2013 15:30 GMT
#1207
On December 05 2013 23:52 Evenshade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 23:39 opterown wrote:
On December 05 2013 23:36 Keeemy wrote:
On December 05 2013 23:33 FatCat_13 wrote:
does anybody know if Acer made Inno drop this in favor of ROG or it was his own decision to make?

Acer's decision.

I'm sure bogus had his input too

Pretty sure once you sign for a foreign team, you prioritize foreign tournaments with larger viewership. For obvious reasons.


I was questioning cause I couldn't imagine Inno had preferred ROG. This Hot6ix tournament is so extremely skill packed...
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blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
December 05 2013 15:47 GMT
#1208
That was all over one of the previous threads; Inno wanted to go to the Hot6ix tournament but Acer made him go to ROG.
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-05 15:51:34
December 05 2013 15:47 GMT
#1209
On December 06 2013 00:16 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 23:12 ffadicted wrote:
On December 05 2013 22:17 vthree wrote:
On December 05 2013 22:11 Swiipii wrote:
On December 05 2013 22:06 vthree wrote:
On December 05 2013 22:03 Swiipii wrote:
On December 05 2013 21:59 vthree wrote:
On December 05 2013 21:56 foxmeep wrote:
Tanks are still pretty damn good. That push was going to be fkn scary for Soulkey, but his counter threw Bomber off big time.


Yeah, but any decent Zerg would have countered... Yeah, if Zerg lets you walk around the map and get sieges, yea, tanks are great. But unless you have a big lead, the Zerg will never let you do that.

And any decent Terran wouldn't lost 7 siege tanks for nothing. :p He didn't need his full army to defend and a wall of supply with a single tank on the high ground would have do wonders.

I remember a game against Violet on Cloud Kingdom where he did just that. 2 tanks + a bunker and a wall of supplys held Violet's counter attack and crushed the Zerg.


Mutas come pick off the tank... SK is much better than Violet.

There were no mutalisks with the ling/bane counter attack. -_- And even 20 mutalisks don't do great against a bunker and 16 marines.

I think marine/tank is bad against Zerg but in this game Bomber could have win just by saving those tanks and defending a bit better.


The things is Bomber doesn't know that. Yes, if he splits his units perfectly and just barely holds the counter, he can win. But there is no way for him to know how much SK would counter with. If SK doesn't counter and just throws his whole army at the main force, then those 16 marines and 2 tanks aren't doing Bomber any good.

Pretty easy to tell a player how they should play when we have full vision. Bomber would have won g3 if he scouted as well.

Sounds like you just have a problem with zerg in general lol Zerg can play that style in any matchup against any other style really, life is famous for his counter attacks.

And man, DAMN, are we ready to officially call Soulkey the comeback king?


Yes, and counters work well vs all comps. But bio is much faster pull back or go for a straight base race. Tanks get caught in the middle a lot more. It is the same reason why zergs go ling bling muta instead of infestors. In a straight up fight, even with the new fungals, infestors are probably better. But the Terran sees this and just drops all over the place. You could argue that with the perfect unit spread, you can defend all your bases. But why do most top zergs still go with Mutas? Because it is a guess to see how many units you need at each base to defend drops.

It is like in PvZ, if you are morphing BLs on zergs side of the map to hold off a push. You are pretty much screwed because the Protoss is never going to let you move across the map with BLs.


It's needed though. You can't have a style that's amazingly cost effective when in strong position at the opponents map AND denies all counter attacks. How would the other guy win? PFs, missile turrets, sensor towers and smart siege tank/bunker/building placements can help with counter attacks.
SooYoung-Noona!
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
December 05 2013 16:18 GMT
#1210
You fuckin kiddin me Bomber :/
Go Maru now I guess
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
December 05 2013 16:24 GMT
#1211
Soulkey has a nack of reverse sweeping
Refer to my post.
FatCat_13
Profile Joined July 2013
Russian Federation117 Posts
December 05 2013 16:29 GMT
#1212
On December 06 2013 00:47 blackone wrote:
That was all over one of the previous threads; Inno wanted to go to the Hot6ix tournament but Acer made him go to ROG.


Missed that one. Thanks.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-05 16:36:17
December 05 2013 16:34 GMT
#1213
fell asleep on the last game. Guess Bomber's Law came early

holy crap, and people wonder why we still bring up the law. He made such critical errors in the later 3 games after brutally owning Soulkey in the first 2. It's shocking how he actually lives up to the joke. ;;
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
December 05 2013 16:48 GMT
#1214
the better players won

its funny that ppl thought soo could win a map
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8230 Posts
December 05 2013 17:02 GMT
#1215
Nooooo. How did Bomber lose!
Venomsflame
Profile Joined February 2011
United States613 Posts
December 05 2013 17:17 GMT
#1216
EVERY TIME YOU GO TO SLEEP WHEN IT'S 2-0 IT WILL BE 3-2 THE OTHER DIRECTION WHEN YOU WAKE UP.
EVERY TIME.
I was punished for my weakness.

But it's okay guys I did it for Soulkey. I suffered so he could prosper. I DID IT FOR YOU SK I DID IT FOR YOU
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
December 05 2013 17:29 GMT
#1217
I can feel the Rain vs Maru finals.

Rain wants his revenge !
RIP MKP
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 05 2013 20:53 GMT
#1218
fuck everything
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
December 05 2013 21:37 GMT
#1219
So how do I watch the first game of Maru-Soo now with Gomtv no longer updated
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
December 05 2013 22:16 GMT
#1220
oh god fucking damnit Bomber. i knew i should have called in sick today. if i had watched i'm sure he would've won. were the games good at least?
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