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Ha, the base damage growth of turrets to make the "player experience of last hitting" more consistent is like, the most riot thing riot has ever done.
EDIT: exact wording here: + Show Spoiler +The player experience for last hitting under turrets was inconsistent between high attack damage champions and supports or mages. We've adjusted turret base damage and damage against minions to make last hitting under turrets more consistent across all roles.
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Finally I dont have to play dominion to bring out bruiser Taric. It just comes naturally now!
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On November 21 2013 07:29 zer0das wrote: Annie can't proc Lichbane procs on command constantly, then heal herself from near death.
She kinda can proc LB on Command. It has a 1.5 S CD, Q has a 2.5 S CD with CDR.
She can't heal herself, but she does much more damage and is tankier with E. ARAM is like the perfect Sona environment, and she still isn't ridiculous there if you have any competent divers.
On November 21 2013 07:31 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 07:28 UnKooL wrote: Wait so what stops ppl from playing supports mid? Real question is what is preventing duo lanes with supports as the farmed carry?
Well, if they didn't oversell the gold from it, nothing other than ranged ADs are like really good at last hitting. Are you thinking like Cait-Ashe?
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Assist streak gold seems like a significant boost in gold for people who are getting it, especially given the reduction to assist baseline gold. It seems pretty reasonable for the bonus gold for high assists to be giving you more gold than the baseline on teamfight kills that have 4 or 5 involved champs.
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Corki buffs seem insane, despite Q becoming a skillshot.
Sivir nerfs are much more mild than I expected they would be - if you hit them with q both ways I doubt you'll notice anything at all, actually.
I love the way they changed Gragas bodyslam, don't think a nerf on his barrel would've been neccessary though.
All in all I'm just excited for League changes cuz there's always so much new shit to abuse (mostly due to masteries/runes and general changes) and the ladder is a huge mess (also fun as hell).
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IBG Taric is going to rock people so hard with his hammer.
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is this it for s4 or more to come?
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On November 21 2013 07:43 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 07:29 zer0das wrote: Annie can't proc Lichbane procs on command constantly, then heal herself from near death. She kinda can proc LB on Command. It has a 1.5 S CD, Q has a 2.5 S CD with CDR. She can't heal herself, but she does much more damage and is tankier with E. ARAM is like the perfect Sona environment, and she still isn't ridiculous there if you have any competent divers. Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 07:31 wei2coolman wrote:On November 21 2013 07:28 UnKooL wrote: Wait so what stops ppl from playing supports mid? Real question is what is preventing duo lanes with supports as the farmed carry? Well, if they didn't oversell the gold from it, nothing other than ranged ADs are like really good at last hitting. Are you thinking like Cait-Ashe? No, more like Janna, Ashe, where Janna gets all the CS. And Ashe just gets enough gold for IE+Shiv.
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So many small and big changes, no idea how S4 is going to turn but I'm excited for any change. The client additions are also a nice touch, especially for streamers.
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On November 21 2013 07:53 jaymik wrote: is this it for s4 or more to come? They mentioned a rework of runes coming later, as well as probably some inevitable league-of-black-cleavers type imbalance that will be discovered and then nerfed
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Lol:
Every 1000 gold earned from minions / monsters reduces your death spree by 1 death
Fuck splitpushing as a strategy right?
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On November 21 2013 07:43 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 07:29 zer0das wrote: Annie can't proc Lichbane procs on command constantly, then heal herself from near death. She kinda can proc LB on Command. It has a 1.5 S CD, Q has a 2.5 S CD with CDR. She can't heal herself, but she does much more damage and is tankier with E. ARAM is like the perfect Sona environment, and she still isn't ridiculous there if you have any competent divers.
Lichbane is a 2 second cooldown. Realistically, when are you ever going to have 40% CDR as Annie with a Lichbane? Like never? It takes almost no build deviation to do that as Sona, which is the point- you're churning out heals and Lichbane procs like its nothing. Competant divers only matter if they ever get to their targets with their health somewhat intact, which rarely happens in an ARAM situation against Sona.
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I generally like the direction of the changes, although there is surely a lot of tuning left to be done. In any case change is good. So excited. :D
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On November 21 2013 07:57 miicah wrote:Lol: Show nested quote +Every 1000 gold earned from minions / monsters reduces your death spree by 1 death Fuck splitpushing as a strategy right?
Uhh...this is anti splitpush.
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That's what he just said :D
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On November 21 2013 07:55 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 07:43 cLutZ wrote:On November 21 2013 07:29 zer0das wrote: Annie can't proc Lichbane procs on command constantly, then heal herself from near death. She kinda can proc LB on Command. It has a 1.5 S CD, Q has a 2.5 S CD with CDR. She can't heal herself, but she does much more damage and is tankier with E. ARAM is like the perfect Sona environment, and she still isn't ridiculous there if you have any competent divers. On November 21 2013 07:31 wei2coolman wrote:On November 21 2013 07:28 UnKooL wrote: Wait so what stops ppl from playing supports mid? Real question is what is preventing duo lanes with supports as the farmed carry? Well, if they didn't oversell the gold from it, nothing other than ranged ADs are like really good at last hitting. Are you thinking like Cait-Ashe? No, more like Janna, Ashe, where Janna gets all the CS. And Ashe just gets enough gold for IE+Shiv.
Janna has too low attack range and animations. Plus with the changes she can't 1 shot minions, like ever. Maybe Ori-Ashe. The key to such a strategy is your CSer to actually be good at CSing against a traditional lane.
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On November 21 2013 08:17 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 07:55 wei2coolman wrote:On November 21 2013 07:43 cLutZ wrote:On November 21 2013 07:29 zer0das wrote: Annie can't proc Lichbane procs on command constantly, then heal herself from near death. She kinda can proc LB on Command. It has a 1.5 S CD, Q has a 2.5 S CD with CDR. She can't heal herself, but she does much more damage and is tankier with E. ARAM is like the perfect Sona environment, and she still isn't ridiculous there if you have any competent divers. On November 21 2013 07:31 wei2coolman wrote:On November 21 2013 07:28 UnKooL wrote: Wait so what stops ppl from playing supports mid? Real question is what is preventing duo lanes with supports as the farmed carry? Well, if they didn't oversell the gold from it, nothing other than ranged ADs are like really good at last hitting. Are you thinking like Cait-Ashe? No, more like Janna, Ashe, where Janna gets all the CS. And Ashe just gets enough gold for IE+Shiv. Janna has too low attack range and animations. Plus with the changes she can't 1 shot minions, like ever. Maybe Ori-Ashe. The key to such a strategy is your CSer to actually be good at CSing against a traditional lane. Could run Janna + Lee Sin, or some sort of bruiser, just offer too much damage that they can't stop you from csing. Would be a pretty funny evolution of meta.
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I meant supports champions mid as ap carries
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On November 21 2013 07:57 miicah wrote:Lol: Show nested quote +Every 1000 gold earned from minions / monsters reduces your death spree by 1 death Fuck splitpushing as a strategy right? It's honestly not that big a change. Unless you're proxy-farming singed, how often do you have a death spree that's not 0 or 1 anyway? Note that your death spree goes down by 1 whenever you get an assist, too.
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