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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
Great play and deserves win I'm not sure if town would have lynched scum without the sharrant yamato check. Excellent thread awareness. And the section where koshi was riding out the fakeclaim was hillarious. Kitamins big play was so damn close hahah. Big balls koshi. Rayn for scum mvp though. Excellent abuse of an apaethetic town. Well done | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
On August 20 2013 15:30 Ace wrote: I was spending so much time reading and there was nothing worth talking about since yamato was going to be lynched. I screwed up and got myself modkilled before I got to make a real contribution. And i got accused of "not posting anything when there was important things going on". I had no idea what to say, other than "lol?" ^_^ | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
 Feels so good to be back, though! | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
... ... ... Damn I'm bad. I hate playing as town. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
He is the best conspiracy theorist ever. haha. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On August 20 2013 16:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: The Koshi thing was hilarious. We were so angry at him with Acro. :D He is the best conspiracy theorist ever. haha. I remember reading that and being so tense---"Oh shit are they going to be able to keep him from fakeclaiming WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN AAAAAHH" Defs a well-played game by all of the scum. Yamato's scumclaiming made me giggle. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
I don't think you played bad, you just needed some support you didn't have. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
I didn't even have a strong scum read on him, I just wanted him dead since he could at any time shut down the lord vote and KP. I fuckin hated the lord shit in this game, though. Holy shit limited PM game + overlord mechanic was frustrating. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
good guise! you fooled me at least. ^_^ Also, i did try to play 'til the very end. 0,1% chance of working but i had to try: + Show Spoiler + "Okay, i have been thinking about this and either way, if you are mafia you will probably win. So here it is: I am Aeron, a Town Jailkeeper. I can jail a person other than me each night. It will roleblock them and heal them up to 4 HP in case they take damage during that night (i asked and it does not work for the previous nights). N1 i jailed Xatalos, for me he was the towniest person out there at that time. N2 i jailed Sharrant. He claimed one shot cop, so i thought he had no more checks. On N3 i jailed Grackaroni because i think he is town and thought he was a person mafia would hit knowing that there is a possible protective role alive. I voted Onegu because he somehow seemed to know there is a town roleblocker. I thought mafia roleblocked Sharrant aswell on N2 and Onegu fakeclaimed the roleblock to make me claim or/and to cast doubt in town (see the whole fucking discussion on the roleblocks D4). I talked about this with other lords on D4 (when i voted for Onegu). Dandel called me stupid and said Onegu is town and he never explained that better. Grackaroni never answered me. Acrofales said i was probably right and voted Onegu with me. Then i went to bed. The game is lost anyways if you are scum, so: - I have no idea who is mafia. Probably Acrofales (at least if i die tonight), johnnywup, and one of Chromatically/Dandel. Maybe even Sharrant. - Who should i shoot? Is Acrofales okay? - I am gonna vote for myself as a lord. I hope you vote for me too. If i die you are the lord and you can lynch Acrofales (as apparently the game is not over yet, and he is confirmed mafia then). - If you are mafia you won't vote for me anyways so it's whatever." lol. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
 This is the second time already that I had a strong townread on you and I was so wrong. I give up, I'll just auto-push you from now on :DBasically the reasoning was that you were 1) crusading that there was a "mole" in House Lannister (as scum you would know that to be false and you felt very convinced 2) antagonizing me and iamperfection in the thread (in NWM you just pretty much tried to buddy with me and other obvious townies) 3) overall very involved in the discussion whenever around. But of course it was all wrong... Sigh. From now on I won't trust myself regarding Koshi anymore. Well played though. Chromatically also did an excellent job in PMs with iamperfection and s0Lstice. I went to such trouble to avoid leaks and Chrom knew the most important stuff already..... Rayn and Acro also had a really good (soft?) double bus. I didn't even imagine they could be scum together until the last moments. Vivax and Yamato didn't really do much and gave up extremely easily. Like... Why not even try for a moment? Why instantly suicide? I'd even say that's playing against your win condition BUT there's also the fact that tactically suiciding will cut any possible connections from that point on, so I can accept it as a safe play (if it wasn't just laziness). I only ever shared information with townies in PMs, so the leaking wasn't my fault really... But yeah. Chrom intercepted well, same with Acro. And Lord KP was used purely to kill townies (I'm majorly to blame for that as well - I pushed that lurkers should be killed above all else, while undermining the importance of shooting scum). Going to read ObsQT and scumQt next! | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
On August 20 2013 16:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: Risen, you were really good in proving your towniness imo. Had i been town i think we would have been really close to destroying the scum team from the beginning. You were really easy to talk to in PM's and while you think way differently than i do i think we would end up in good conclusions. I don't think you played bad, you just needed some support you didn't have. I disagree heavily. I was slightly leaning town, but Risen was so hard to PM with.... No logic, stupid theories, starting to say I'm 100% scum for nonexistent reasons... Afterwards just silence. Okay, in hindsight, he really did have a townie mindset, just otherwise so horrible to communicate with that it was hard to say for sure. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
Hapa was right when he said town had no leaders. After lamp and Kita died, town went down the drain in effective activity. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
yamato and vivax: I think you guys should play more carelessly. To me it felt like you were avoiding posting because of fear of getting caught (although you were busy). You both are good players as town but your scumplay is easily detectable because it's so different from your town play. Just post stuff and keep your opinions. Both of you could have easily escaped the lynch (in yamato's case the check) purely by posting more. Chromatically: You were really good in gathering information and proving your towniness early on. Like, awesome! You have well thought out posts and apparenty you did awesome in PM-land. At some point i felt like your activity dropped significantly. If you can keep that up you're going to do even better. Good job! Koshi: Fantasticly disruptive dude! ^^ You had some clear shiny posts (for example the gumshoe thing). That's how you get out of bad situations. I think you were a bit unsure of yourself at some points of the game, but you see; Just go ahead and post, make a conspiracy theory and stick with it like you did and see, people think you are town. You did handle situations well when you actually started handling them. You need a bit more confidence in yourself but all in all you are a good disruptive scumplayer! Acrofales: A guy that i work with very well as mafia. We have a different kind of playstyle and i loved playing scum with him. He was the analytical part (besides Chrom) in our team and handled that part very well. The only thing that i did not like was the buss on me. That could have ended up pretty badly (as we could not "work together" after that). I think you should have dropped it after our "misuderstanding" on D2 as it was clearly a stupid rant. You are also really good in proving your towniness as mafia. A good addition to a scumteam where i am, different "qualities" and easy to work with. If yamato & vivax were just more active i think we had insanely good team that was a pleasure to work with. Very transparent team with people with different abilities to screw with town. Thank you guys! | ||
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Onegu
United States9695 Posts
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Ace
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