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MrCon
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On July 03 2013 08:34 LuckyFool wrote: hahah oh man I really want to watch this movie now, I don't want to waste money on it though. Seriously no, it's not one of those so bad it's good movie, it's one of those so bad you want t oshot yourself and leave the theater crying. This film is nearly insulting. | ||
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woreyour
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On July 05 2013 08:19 Judicator wrote: The movie was honestly fine considering the source material's style. As for the movie itself, I found some parts hilariously stereotypical... 1. It just has to be black cop that runs into the store to steal stuff. 2. All the women are useless until... 3. The Israeli women, and that's not breaking any molds. 4. The Palestinians/Muslims have to Trojan horse Israel, even when the latter is letting them in. 5. Of course it has to be the crazy Russians who go full-on fuck-your-shit and not giving a fuck at the end. 6. The pointless/useless black man in power. 7. The Indian/Pakistani American born doctor who has no clue how the world works. The whole spread thing I can buy, the time frame I can not. Like how do you have perpetual supply of zombies? Eventually shit will break down. I'll add to your list of inconsistencies, the soldier who watched a bunch of them turn zeke and stood in the room in SKorea, what kind of disability/disease would you have to have in order for the Army to keep you and have the zombies ignore you? LOL damn right, I guess they just want to make it more obvious hahahaha stereotypical shit to make it easier for the "dumb guy" as stated by the other guys. "that dumb guy" hahaha | ||
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ffadicted
United States3545 Posts
On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:
Trust me, your instinct is to stay with the family. He is NOT the only hope for all mankind lmao. He doesn't want to fight this fight, he can help, but he wants to spend time with his family. It's the same concept as people who choose to not fight in wars, they can help, but they want someone else to fight the fight for them. This is not uncommon, already a silly argument first bullet point lol On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:
It's not kicking him out to die, they'd have to send them to a refugee camp. That ship is overcrowded and it's now a military/stratigics ship, resources/space are limited, and they can't afford to be a hotel for 5 useless refugees. Again, silly point. They also note that he was one of the best survivors they ever had, how is it hard to believe there are people out there with skills like he has (medical training, some gun training, etc), there are tons of people like that in the world right now haha Did you even pay attention to what his work backstory was? My guess is no. Another retarded nitpick point, bias is obvious here lol On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:
Agreed tbqh, movie could've definitely done without tommy lol Also not sure how he would've survived, and lol @ the kid basically not giving a f*ck despite just seeing his parents get eaten alive On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:
The wall thing was pretty unbelievable in itself, but I totally agree with the sound thing. My best guess is that they knew they'd be attracted to sound, but let's be honest, it's kind of a shocking thing that they could've piled up that f*cking high on the wall and actually made it across. It's extremely annoying to us because we know what it'll lead to, but ya, not something I'd nitpick at On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:
His point was to show how much they actually needed Gerry I guess seeing as how the kid had no survival skills like Gerry did. I wish they would've given him a bit of a better death other than tripping himself (lol), but he served his purpose in establishing that fact. On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:
LOL wtf was he supposed to tell her. You obv would've tell her that she almost just killed you and got a bunch of others killed. She was def ret*rded for calling, but let's be honest, most women wouldn't be able to resist the urge. Not a movie flaw, just the truth. N*ggu should've def put it on silent tbh On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:
Faster, and not loud. Not sure why you'd nitpick at this On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:
On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:
I won't make any arguments on the plane scene. It was pretty unbelivable, I wish they would've handled all of that way better. On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:
Blatantly looking for things to complain about at this point tbh. It's not at all unbelievable they'd be able to recharge it at the facility, or that Gerry took one with him (did he expect the one charge to last him the weeks he'll be overseas?) LOL On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:
See points above. It's not kicking them out, l2listen On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:
He guided them all the way into where the vault section was, and Gerry saw them running that way when he led the zombies out. He knew the general direction and location because the WHO scientist lead them there, they also layed out/showed the whole place and path on the cameras before to everyone. How is it a bad thing to bring someone who is familiar with the building? Makes no sense to get angry at this lol On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:
He was pretty damn clumsy, painful to watch lol On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:
(1) see above (2) it was annoying, you'd figure he'd learn after the first couple mistakes, some were unavoidable though (like the door) lol On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:
Tbh, I knew from the moment they avoided the homeless guy something was up. I thought that maybe they didn't see at threat from people who weren't moving/running away. The moment they talked about that guy who just standed there and survived in SK, I pieced it together that it had something to do with condition in their body. It's not a hard puzzle to piece, there were so many clues, and clearly Gerry is extremely smart and attentive to detail (who else would be calm enough to actually count how long it takes them to turn after lik 3 minutes of chaos in first encounter?). You were clearly too busy trying to hate the movie to pay attention to details, it's obvious through your whole post On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:
The whole NK teeth thing was a bit whack tbh, but lol @ the "why didn't everyone just do that" reaction. Cmon On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote: Overall: I'd rate this movie somewhere between god awful and "I'm embarrassed to say I paid $7 to see it." You must not watch a lot of movies if you think this is relatively that bad to everything else that's out there lol TBQH movie had it's flaws and was no masterpiece, but this is a perfect example of someone who just blatantly is trying to hate on something without paying any attention to the actual film, instead just looking for things to hate. You likely walked in the theater already planning this blog post tbh EDIT: Oh and for the people complaining about "how it spread through airplanes", did you even watch the movie? They repeaditely said that many of the early victims took hours/days to turn when infected, it's pretty obvious the virus gets more and more effective the more times it transfer over, to the point where it's now at the ~10-12 second mark. | ||
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woreyour
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On July 04 2013 12:01 Funnytoss wrote: This point kind of bugged me, and it's not even because I'm from Taiwan. Objectively speaking, Taiwan is a fairly small country with a well functioning universal health care system, whereas China has a rather "interesting" history when it comes to epidemics. In the book, the outbreak indeed started in some rural region in China, and it's much more plausible than it starting in Taiwan, largely because there are still regions in China where there simply isn't adequate reporting and medical care, not to mention transparent communication regarding epidemics at the moment. Looking at the SARS outbreak should be obvious, and the official response and cover-up attempt that happens every time something like this occurs should be known to all. Movies writers should read this discussions and get them facts straight!  if they read all of this they would have a great zombie movie and avoid those inconsistencies. It would be great to have a good realistic zombie movie.Still though, better story than twilight | ||
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HardlyNever
United States1258 Posts
I'm a bit surprised at Brad Pitt. At this point in his career he usually doesn't choose to do absolutely terrible movies. Maybe they offered him too much money to refuse. | ||
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Scarecrow
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QuanticHawk
United States32026 Posts
On July 05 2013 08:19 Judicator wrote: The movie was honestly fine considering the source material's style. As for the movie itself, I found some parts hilariously stereotypical... 1. It just has to be black cop that runs into the store to steal stuff. 2. All the women are useless until... 3. The Israeli women, and that's not breaking any molds. 4. The Palestinians/Muslims have to Trojan horse Israel, even when the latter is letting them in. 5. Of course it has to be the crazy Russians who go full-on fuck-your-shit and not giving a fuck at the end. 6. The pointless/useless black man in power. 7. The Indian/Pakistani American born doctor who has no clue how the world works. The whole spread thing I can buy, the time frame I can not. Like how do you have perpetual supply of zombies? Eventually shit will break down. I'll add to your list of inconsistencies, the soldier who watched a bunch of them turn zeke and stood in the room in SKorea, what kind of disability/disease would you have to have in order for the Army to keep you and have the zombies ignore you? to be fair about 1, that is in newark, nj. that's a chocolate town. that soldier, maybe some kind of muscular dystrophy or who knows what. there are a ton of things that could give you bad joints, and they left what kind of disease would steer them away as ambiguous. just becaues the vaccine in the end was based off of whatever gery infected himself with doesnt mean others dont have the same effect. also, i am surprised no one picked up on it, but the kid tommy most likely survived because he had something himself. i dunno, i didnt find the movie to be as bad as people thought, at least on the plot hole things. the isreali situation was stupid, and the plane crash and magically finding the who installation was pretty silly as well. those were the only particularlly egregious ones in my mind. others were not as bad and some you just have to think about (zombie on the plane: that goes to an elevator in the basement and it easily could have just stumbled into it then; cell phone battery for what jibba said etc) i also didnt read the book but plan on doing so, but based on what i know i could see why people are miffed about that. i dunno. not as horrible as people are making it out to be, but i wouldnt call it particularly good either. | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
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StarStruck
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Impervious
Canada4166 Posts
On July 03 2013 11:05 Jibba wrote: The book could be a sick HBO series, but not much else. But the book definitely wasn't perfect either. Battle of Yonkers was a whole lot of bullshit. Actually, I thought the battle of Yonkers made a lot of sense overall. + Show Spoiler + Think about it. The modern militiaries are all designed and outfitted to battle conventional enemies. The enemies they were facing were not conventional. This was basically their first major engagement, and they hadn't adapted yet. If a tank can only hold , what, 40 rounds in it, they won't be stocked with 40 anti-infantry rounds (explosive, incendiary, whatever), they'll be filled with a mix of all sorts of different rounds. Unless they've been re-armed to only hold rounds useful in this kind of fight, once the useful rounds are used, what's next? Military training doesn't train for head shots, so when it came to actually taking zombies down through use of rifle fire, what happens? You probably pepper them with a hundred rounds each in the chest in order to immobilize them. How many rounds do you think the infantry brought to the battle? Several hundred each, and maybe that much in reserve. How badly were they outnumbered? A thousand to one? It doesn't quite say, but that is quite possible. The battle for Hope later on shows that they were definitely heavily outnumbered there, and I doubt Yonkers would have been any different The entire battle was a sham, the military wanted to show off that they could handle the zombies, so they put themselves into a situation against an unconventional foe, while still using conventional equipment, and training, because they were confident that they could handle whatever was thrown at them. They did it for propaganda, they didn't seem to plan everything out very well, they went for what they percieved to be overkill, but in reality, it wasn't. It would have been overkill for a more conventional enemy. For the first part of the fight, things were going according to plan, the zombies were dying in droves, and the few that made it through the barrage of heavy weapons were easily picked off by the infantry on the front line. But suddenly the artillery and tanks no longer had effective rounds for thinning out the herd, and instead of just a few making it through the barrage, many started making it through. And the standard training would have resulted in potentially hundreds of rounds needed to take down a single zombie, which would quickly cause them to run out of ammunition unless they were very well stocked, which they wouldn't have been based on conventional warfare preparations where firefights are relatively short and do not require sustained fire from a lot of people at once. If they ran out of ammo, they would be overrun, and very quickly. Not to mention the problem that the noise would have attracted the zombies from multiple directions, not just one, so they could be outmaneuvered as well. Even just a few would sow enough confusion and panic to cause things to go to shit if it wasn't expected, and it wasn't. And this was even more prominent because the government was trying to show off some brand new technology which allows everyone to see everything on the battlefield, and when they started seeing things go to shit, everyone would have started panicking. While that would have been an extremely useful tool for conventional warfare, it actually made things worse. The way it was described, they were fucked from the start. They just didn't know it, because they didn't know their enemy. It's like bringing a knife to a gun fight. They didn't have the right tool to even give them a chance. I thought the book was quite brilliantly written overall. I haven't seen the movie, but I really doubt it'll live up to the book. | ||
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Funnytoss
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doner0
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rangi
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
On July 16 2013 10:47 Impervious wrote: Actually, I thought the battle of Yonkers made a lot of sense overall. + Show Spoiler + Think about it. The modern militiaries are all designed and outfitted to battle conventional enemies. The enemies they were facing were not conventional. This was basically their first major engagement, and they hadn't adapted yet. If a tank can only hold , what, 40 rounds in it, they won't be stocked with 40 anti-infantry rounds (explosive, incendiary, whatever), they'll be filled with a mix of all sorts of different rounds. Unless they've been re-armed to only hold rounds useful in this kind of fight, once the useful rounds are used, what's next? Military training doesn't train for head shots, so when it came to actually taking zombies down through use of rifle fire, what happens? You probably pepper them with a hundred rounds each in the chest in order to immobilize them. How many rounds do you think the infantry brought to the battle? Several hundred each, and maybe that much in reserve. How badly were they outnumbered? A thousand to one? It doesn't quite say, but that is quite possible. The battle for Hope later on shows that they were definitely heavily outnumbered there, and I doubt Yonkers would have been any different The entire battle was a sham, the military wanted to show off that they could handle the zombies, so they put themselves into a situation against an unconventional foe, while still using conventional equipment, and training, because they were confident that they could handle whatever was thrown at them. They did it for propaganda, they didn't seem to plan everything out very well, they went for what they percieved to be overkill, but in reality, it wasn't. It would have been overkill for a more conventional enemy. For the first part of the fight, things were going according to plan, the zombies were dying in droves, and the few that made it through the barrage of heavy weapons were easily picked off by the infantry on the front line. But suddenly the artillery and tanks no longer had effective rounds for thinning out the herd, and instead of just a few making it through the barrage, many started making it through. And the standard training would have resulted in potentially hundreds of rounds needed to take down a single zombie, which would quickly cause them to run out of ammunition unless they were very well stocked, which they wouldn't have been based on conventional warfare preparations where firefights are relatively short and do not require sustained fire from a lot of people at once. If they ran out of ammo, they would be overrun, and very quickly. Not to mention the problem that the noise would have attracted the zombies from multiple directions, not just one, so they could be outmaneuvered as well. Even just a few would sow enough confusion and panic to cause things to go to shit if it wasn't expected, and it wasn't. And this was even more prominent because the government was trying to show off some brand new technology which allows everyone to see everything on the battlefield, and when they started seeing things go to shit, everyone would have started panicking. While that would have been an extremely useful tool for conventional warfare, it actually made things worse. The way it was described, they were fucked from the start. They just didn't know it, because they didn't know their enemy. It's like bringing a knife to a gun fight. They didn't have the right tool to even give them a chance. I thought the book was quite brilliantly written overall. I haven't seen the movie, but I really doubt it'll live up to the book. the battle of yonkers was stupid stupid stupid here is a description of the battle of yonkers if the contrived dumbness necessary to make the zombies seem like a real threat was not present: zombies are napalmed from the air from the start. zombie invasion over. the battle of yonkers is about as plausible as climbing to the moon on a string | ||
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