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The action of the movie was okay but the story in itself was just stupid ...
Full of plot holes and things that defile a normal logical mind.
The story about North Korea and that Israel wall and 10 man bullshit was just such a grotesque nonsense ...
I liked the scene where this scientist shot himself in the head, but I agree with the bicicle nonsense, the plane crash was a bit to much I think.
Why did the scients question him like an idiot at the research facility, they could also have been simple villagers that required help, but no they have to call via satellite phone and shit ...
And the end where they had to enter the lab was just moronic nonsense ... and why didnt they tell him the code from the start ? What if the phones didn't work ?
And where was the red queen telling him that they "are all gonna die down here" ? Damn it wrong movie.
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hahah oh man I really want to watch this movie now, I don't want to waste money on it though.
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It was raining so the sound of the bikes wasn't actually that much louder than walking because the rain shrouded it.
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[QUOTE]On July 03 2013 03:20 MilkDud wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:
- The world is ending. Gerry may be the only person with the skillset necessary to help find a cure and save everyone. His response: "Nah, I wanna be with my family." Even though saving humanity is the ONLY WAY TO SAVE YOUR FAMILY, YOU WANT TO STAY WITH THEM. FUCK HELPING PEOPLE. This sets a good tone to the film.
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They barely survived an escape with their lives and his first instinct is to stay with his family... why is this so hard to believe?
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[*] The ship captain actually has to threaten to kick his family off the ship in order to convince Gerry to join the mission. Seriously, for someone who was a special investigator for the UN, Gerry seems pretty stupid. Also, looking forward in the movie: for someone who was just an investigator, Gerry is pretty goddamn skilled at everything, including being having full medical training and being an expert marksmen.
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He didn't know that el capitan was going kick his family off the ship initially or he would not have gone. How is this stupid?
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[*]Tommy (the kid) has ZERO purpose in the movie whatsoever. Secondly, zombies break in to their house (there's only 1 door) and SOMEHOW he manages to escape totally unharmed while both of his parents get bitten and die instantly. This means, Tommy had exactly 24 seconds to escape his apartment and get all the way to the roof without getting harmed. For a 10 year old kid, that seems LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
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The kid probably had some back way out of his apartment that he could fit through. Not a big stretch to imagine this. I think the purpose of him and his family was to show that not everyone turned into selfish looters when the crisis hit and that some had still retained their humanity.
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[*] This zombie apocalypse has been going on for a few days and/or a week or so... this Israeli guy has the fucking foresight to build A HUGE WALL AROUND HIS WHOLE COUNTRY, and somehow they don't know that the zombies are attracted to sound. Seriously? Once that bitch picks up the mic and starts singing kumbayah I would've shot her. DONT YOU KNOW THEY ARE ATTRACTED TO SOUND?!?! And second point related to this: why was the mic hooked up to every single fucking loudspeaker in the whole area. "Ya guys, even though we know the zombies are triggered by sound, let's just have a ton of loud speakers so we can sing and praise Yaweh."
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If you were listening carefully when the ex-Mossad guy was explaining about the '10th man' concept... Israel had been caught off guard in the past by major events that threatened their existence. By establishing a group of 10 who had to vote on preparations... all 9 thought the zombie threat was nonsense... it was his job to establish doubt about that and he succeeded.
The mic was clearly there to allow the troops to broadcast to the crowd to get them organized.
If you knew anything about middle-eastern culture you would know that it is popular to sing in crowds at times of stress to relieve tension.
They didn't know that sound attracted the zombies, and Gerry warnings were too late.
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[*] Whats the deal with this Indian harvard scientist who was supposed to be their savior. He's literally in 3 scenes in the movie. He gives some super epic, philosophical speech (which by the way WHO FUCKING TALKS LIKE THAT), then dies instantly after in the stupidest way possible. Woops, trips and shoots himself in the head.
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It was a scene to show how the chaos of such situations can easily result in the senseless deaths of inexperienced players.
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[*] I can't believe that after his wife calling Gerry in the middle of trying to refuel the plan and subsequently getting 6-7 people killed, all he has to say to her the following day is "you called at a bad time." Bitch, you just killed 6 people. WHY THE FUCK DID YOU CALL ME, I TOLD YOU I WAS GONNA CALL YOU. Secondly. Why is she calling him. He specifically said he would call her. Wouldn't she know/think that maybe he's on some dangerous missions and may not have time to receive random phone calls and that he'd call when he was in a safe spot. WHY WAS HIS PHONE NOT ON SILENT.
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He didn't tell her not to call him, just that he would call her every day. When he didn't call she became worried and called back, not hard to understand. Phone not on silent? This is not your iPhone, it was a satellite phone... who knows maybe you can't put it on silent.
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[*] How is riding a squeaky, old, bicycle more quiet than walking?
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I think the idea here was to outrun the zombies with speed on bikes.
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[*] Let's talk about the plane scene. (1) Really, throw a bomb in the plane? Good plan. (2) How is it that THE ZOMBIE IS CHILLING IN THE CLOSET THE ENTIRE TIME. The dog barked at the beginning of the flight but somehow the zombie wasn't triggered. He wasn't triggered at any other point in the flight even though there was talking on the PA and probably talking of people on the plane. NO: the zombie comes out RIGHT WHEN THEY'RE GETTING CLOSE TO LANDING. Was he stuck in the closet?? These zombies had super strength and could break car doors and brick walls easily and yet he couldn't open the fucking closet door? Seriously?
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Grenade? It was a difficult choice between certain death (zombie) and near certain death (plane crash). I would have done the same rather than get bitten... at least I might have had some chance.
Zombie was down in the cargo hold and was brought up to the upper level by the stewardess... I thought this was perfectly clear. Maybe you've never been on this kinds of planes were there is two levels.
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[*] That brings me to my next point. The plane crashes in a forest. They were "near" their landing destination. When you're on a flight and the pilot says you've been cleared for landing, that means you're still 20-25 minutes away from landing, which equates to at least 100-200 miles. Despite being badly injured and landing randomly in the forest (and miraculously ever single person including the pilots are dead but GERRY and his Israeli pseudo-girlfriend survived), they manage to WALK right to the WHO hospital. Seriously?! How did they even know where they were, let alone find the hospital? Did the plane miraculously crash land within eyesight of the hospital? Did Gerry's phone, which wasn't even a smart phone and totally out of battery, happen to have a GPS? Did they have a map? Who the fuck knows.
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They survived because they were near the front of the plane. Statistically plane crash survivors are either at the very front or the very back.
Maybe you missed it, but at least one zombie survived and was still buckled into her seat.
Is it so much of a stretch to imagine they went to the nearest town and checked signs/maps for directions? We did see them walking through the town where there was at least one survivor (the old woman in the window). The movie can only fit so much into 2 hours you know.
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[*] How did Gerry's phone get charged at the hospital? It was dead before, and it was a really old model, it didn't even have a keyboard or touchscreen and didn't have a color monitor. Did the hospital (a really high tech research facility) really have access to an outdated phone charger? Did Gerry keep one in his pocket? I don't understand that.
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These sat phones often use standard batteries so they are easy to replace in the field.
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[*] They literally kicked Gerry's family off the boat after 40 hours of no contact. Cool.
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Too bad for them. Its tough in the zombie apocalypse.
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[*] So one of the WHO scientists says "they'll never find the vault without my help." After the scientist and the Israeli-girl escape the zombies, Gerry WANDERS RIGHT TO THE VAULT. He just walks right to it. It takes MINUTES.
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They got pretty far in. Gerry had to just explore a bit to find it.
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[*] This WHO scientist must be the clumsiest person in the world. He steps on pieces of glass, he dropped a soda can, he bumps into a wall, he hits his axe on a railing. Are you fucking joking? If I was Gerry I would have told that bitch to go back. Clearly wasn't helping at all. In fact, he almost single handedly ruined the mission. It's like if you're playing League of Legends and your ADC keeps tower diving without a support or minions. STAY BACK AND GET SOME CS DUDE.
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Most people are not calm and composed in such a situation, and will often panic, be clumsy, do stupid things.... etc.
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[*] Gerry sees an old guy and a bald kid not get attacked by zombies. He then gets some flashbacks of the stupid Indian scientist's weird speech. BOOM. Comes to the conclusion that being terminally ill is actually the antidote to getting targeted by zombies.
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He's a smart guy and figured it out. Hell I figured it out the first time I saw zombies run by someone and I'm not that smart. :p
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[*] Apparently North Korea was totally safe because "they removed the teeth of all their citizens so nobody could bite anybody." What the fuck? Why didn't everyone just do that. Or, why didn't people go to North Korea. Seems like the tides have turned and NK has become a pretty attractive travel destination.
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Yea i think it was pretty obvious that this was the ranting of a toothless madman and was not to be taken seriously, as others have already pointed out.
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Well I think your criticisms are petty and put down on a movie that I thought was surprisingly good. The plane, Israel and WHO scenes were really well done. This is coming from a guy who loved the book and was dreading how the movie would turn out. Yea it shares its name and zombies only with the book, but it could have been a lot worse.[/QUOTE]
I hated the book with all my heart. It was for me unbearable. I did finish it so I would be able to say how much I hated it. But I agree that the movie was great and thanks to the book I'm not critizicing the scenes within the film.
The book is like watching Street fighter II: The movie. A lot of characters and there is not development.
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The book could be a sick HBO series, but not much else. But the book definitely wasn't perfect either. Battle of Yonkers was a whole lot of bullshit.
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Well...this movie is NOT supposed to be non-fiction. it is the interpretation of the director. And ofc, the director's interpretation will not always correspond with other individuals thoughts
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On July 03 2013 03:20 MilkDud wrote:
I LIKE THIS MOVIE BECAUSE I'M DUMB.
You're being that guy. That guy who decides he's going to go, point-by-point and defend something god-awful and then hit the post button thinking "This'll change that arrogant guy's mind!" Don't be that guy. There's still time to delete your post! WWZ is a very poorly-constructed tangled mess of vomit-shit-piss.
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On July 03 2013 13:27 ninazerg wrote:
WWZ is a very poorly-constructed tangled mess of vomit-shit-piss.
So it's like the vast majority of your posts.
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On July 03 2013 13:53 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 13:27 ninazerg wrote:
WWZ is a very poorly-constructed tangled mess of vomit-shit-piss. So it's like the vast majority of your posts.
I guess this is where we've dropped the entire pretense of actually having a discussion in this thread.
Lot of 'petty' things in the main post, but often its the small petty things that cause the whole to fall apart.
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I agree with all the critism. Yeah at 1st it was an okay better than after earth or superman movie but now they are all the same with superman the worst. I hope wolverine is better as all movies coming out so far are just bad.. I was really expecting a lot from After Earth, superman and worldwar Z, fuck it was like 2 yrs in the making with so much hype and has fucking brad f'ing Pitt on it. I really also fucking hate the fucking wife call but now I realized brad was even dumber.
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On July 03 2013 13:27 ninazerg wrote:You're being that guy. That guy who decides he's going to go, point-by-point and defend something god-awful and then hit the post button thinking "This'll change that arrogant guy's mind!" Don't be that guy. There's still time to delete your post! WWZ is a very poorly-constructed tangled mess of vomit-shit-piss.
LOOOOOOOL
dont be that guy!
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@Xeris,
Like myself, You must not like most newer movies these days then. 95% of the stuff that comes out now-a-days is pure crap. I hate being insulted when watching movies. Constant plot holes really ruin good action movies for me.
You forgot to add a few things that I found interesting:
-It is rumored that this started in the "Asian Peninsula's" or even Taiwan. I think the book is different and says China and then Taiwan, but anways....South Korea is the most advanced technological place on this earth. Don't you think 1 Zombie would have been spotted and 400 korean girls taking pics/videos and uploading it to the web? That shit would have spread on the internet in 15 minutes to every country in the world. There is simply no way a Zombie outbreak in South Korea would spread to the entire world.
-The Isreal Wall, and how people entered. I didn't understand this...you saw people walking to the wall covered in Fences? Some people getting off Buses? But weren't they open to the Zombies? Was there infected and non-infected people standing around, outside the wall? I couldn't figure-out the wall set-up. You have this massive fucking wall, but no watch guards around the tops of the wall? Cameras? Do you know how easy it is to set up a bunch of plastic cameras with decent quality? Easier than making a huge fucking wall. Definitely should have seen those Zombies stacking up.
-How the fuck do a few people on the run-way stop a big ass airplane from taking off? Do you know how big airports are? To build a giant wall around the airport? Were the runways even in the airport?
-Tommy's apartment. Just because you're a human and turn into a Zombie doesn't remove the laws of nature and science about force. If that apartment door is steel and dead bolted, a few humans banging off it, isn't going to break through the fucking door. It's just not happening.
-Back to the technology thing...they sent an email from North Korea...that was the big thing "an email"...its 2013...did zombies take down the satellites too? Why did all connections go down? Didn't they still have laptops there? Just stupid.
The "movie's" world war Z story would never have happened. It simply wouldn't spread that fast across the globe. More countries, like 80% of the world would still be safe.
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wow just thought of this one. "DRONES" Apparently the United States has drones stationed around the world. They can have a live camera feed of anywhere in the world in just a matter of minutes. Don't you think all drones stationed around Korea would have been set off, remotely, and electronically to go see what was happening?
Yup this movie is bullshit and makes me even more mad thinking about it.
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Yeah, but i am a uptight guy, i took the movie as a comedy version of WWZ book and i have a nice time. Kinda like a scary movie.
The good thing for those who haven't read the book, many somewhat enjoy the movie as a zombie flick and you can point them to the book.
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On July 03 2013 13:53 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 13:27 ninazerg wrote:
WWZ is a very poorly-constructed tangled mess of vomit-shit-piss. So it's like the vast majority of your posts.
Thanks. You as well.
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On July 04 2013 02:00 Nizzy wrote:
-It is rumored that this started in the "Asian Peninsula's" or even Taiwan. I think the book is different and says China and then Taiwan, but anways....South Korea is the most advanced technological place on this earth. Don't you think 1 Zombie would have been spotted and 400 korean girls taking pics/videos and uploading it to the web? That shit would have spread on the internet in 15 minutes to every country in the world. There is simply no way a Zombie outbreak in South Korea would spread to the entire world.
This point kind of bugged me, and it's not even because I'm from Taiwan. Objectively speaking, Taiwan is a fairly small country with a well functioning universal health care system, whereas China has a rather "interesting" history when it comes to epidemics.
In the book, the outbreak indeed started in some rural region in China, and it's much more plausible than it starting in Taiwan, largely because there are still regions in China where there simply isn't adequate reporting and medical care, not to mention transparent communication regarding epidemics at the moment. Looking at the SARS outbreak should be obvious, and the official response and cover-up attempt that happens every time something like this occurs should be known to all.
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On July 04 2013 02:00 Nizzy wrote:
@Xeris,
Like myself, You must not like most newer movies these days then. 95% of the stuff that comes out now-a-days is pure crap. I hate being insulted when watching movies. Constant plot holes really ruin good action movies for me.
You forgot to add a few things that I found interesting:
-It is rumored that this started in the "Asian Peninsula's" or even Taiwan. I think the book is different and says China and then Taiwan, but anways....South Korea is the most advanced technological place on this earth. Don't you think 1 Zombie would have been spotted and 400 korean girls taking pics/videos and uploading it to the web? That shit would have spread on the internet in 15 minutes to every country in the world. There is simply no way a Zombie outbreak in South Korea would spread to the entire world.
-The Isreal Wall, and how people entered. I didn't understand this...you saw people walking to the wall covered in Fences? Some people getting off Buses? But weren't they open to the Zombies? Was there infected and non-infected people standing around, outside the wall? I couldn't figure-out the wall set-up. You have this massive fucking wall, but no watch guards around the tops of the wall? Cameras? Do you know how easy it is to set up a bunch of plastic cameras with decent quality? Easier than making a huge fucking wall. Definitely should have seen those Zombies stacking up.
-How the fuck do a few people on the run-way stop a big ass airplane from taking off? Do you know how big airports are? To build a giant wall around the airport? Were the runways even in the airport?
-Tommy's apartment. Just because you're a human and turn into a Zombie doesn't remove the laws of nature and science about force. If that apartment door is steel and dead bolted, a few humans banging off it, isn't going to break through the fucking door. It's just not happening.
-Back to the technology thing...they sent an email from North Korea...that was the big thing "an email"...its 2013...did zombies take down the satellites too? Why did all connections go down? Didn't they still have laptops there? Just stupid.
The "movie's" world war Z story would never have happened. It simply wouldn't spread that fast across the globe. More countries, like 80% of the world would still be safe.
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wow just thought of this one. "DRONES" Apparently the United States has drones stationed around the world. They can have a live camera feed of anywhere in the world in just a matter of minutes. Don't you think all drones stationed around Korea would have been set off, remotely, and electronically to go see what was happening?
Yup this movie is bullshit and makes me even more mad thinking about it.
damn those are some good points, i didn't think about the S.Korea thing
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
The most unbelievable part of this thread is the fact that movie tickets cost $7 in your country, wtf
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Glad I'm not the only one that think this movie is fucking dumb, story wise.
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The movie was honestly fine considering the source material's style. As for the movie itself, I found some parts hilariously stereotypical...
1. It just has to be black cop that runs into the store to steal stuff.
2. All the women are useless until...
3. The Israeli women, and that's not breaking any molds.
4. The Palestinians/Muslims have to Trojan horse Israel, even when the latter is letting them in.
5. Of course it has to be the crazy Russians who go full-on fuck-your-shit and not giving a fuck at the end.
6. The pointless/useless black man in power.
7. The Indian/Pakistani American born doctor who has no clue how the world works.
The whole spread thing I can buy, the time frame I can not. Like how do you have perpetual supply of zombies? Eventually shit will break down.
I'll add to your list of inconsistencies, the soldier who watched a bunch of them turn zeke and stood in the room in SKorea, what kind of disability/disease would you have to have in order for the Army to keep you and have the zombies ignore you?
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i thought israel intercepted some info from india saying theyre fighting against zombies thats why they had the wall built before zombies plague arrive.
thing is, though, how did gerry picked the right bacteria to inject himself when he doesnt even know which one is what.
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