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I feel compelled to write about how goddamn awful this movie was. Generally I'm not a dude who sits and complains about plot holes and all, but what the actual fuck. I'm just gonna go bullet point this bitch, in no particular order.
Before reading further, please be advised that this review only contains spoilers. Please read the inflection in my voice AS I CAPITALIZE FOR FURTHER EMPHASIS.
- The world is ending. Gerry may be the only person with the skillset necessary to help find a cure and save everyone. His response: "Nah, I wanna be with my family." Even though saving humanity is the ONLY WAY TO SAVE YOUR FAMILY, YOU WANT TO STAY WITH THEM. FUCK HELPING PEOPLE. This sets a good tone to the film.
- The ship captain actually has to threaten to kick his family off the ship in order to convince Gerry to join the mission. Seriously, for someone who was a special investigator for the UN, Gerry seems pretty stupid. Also, looking forward in the movie: for someone who was just an investigator, Gerry is pretty goddamn skilled at everything, including being having full medical training and being an expert marksmen.
- Tommy (the kid) has ZERO purpose in the movie whatsoever. Secondly, zombies break in to their house (there's only 1 door) and SOMEHOW he manages to escape totally unharmed while both of his parents get bitten and die instantly. This means, Tommy had exactly 24 seconds to escape his apartment and get all the way to the roof without getting harmed. For a 10 year old kid, that seems LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
- This zombie apocalypse has been going on for a few days and/or a week or so... this Israeli guy has the fucking foresight to build A HUGE WALL AROUND HIS WHOLE COUNTRY, and somehow they don't know that the zombies are attracted to sound. Seriously? Once that bitch picks up the mic and starts singing kumbayah I would've shot her. DONT YOU KNOW THEY ARE ATTRACTED TO SOUND?!?! And second point related to this: why was the mic hooked up to every single fucking loudspeaker in the whole area. "Ya guys, even though we know the zombies are triggered by sound, let's just have a ton of loud speakers so we can sing and praise Yaweh."
- Whats the deal with this Indian harvard scientist who was supposed to be their savior. He's literally in 3 scenes in the movie. He gives some super epic, philosophical speech (which by the way WHO FUCKING TALKS LIKE THAT), then dies instantly after in the stupidest way possible. Woops, trips and shoots himself in the head.
- I can't believe that after his wife calling Gerry in the middle of trying to refuel the plan and subsequently getting 6-7 people killed, all he has to say to her the following day is "you called at a bad time." Bitch, you just killed 6 people. WHY THE FUCK DID YOU CALL ME, I TOLD YOU I WAS GONNA CALL YOU. Secondly. Why is she calling him. He specifically said he would call her. Wouldn't she know/think that maybe he's on some dangerous missions and may not have time to receive random phone calls and that he'd call when he was in a safe spot. WHY WAS HIS PHONE NOT ON SILENT.
- How is riding a squeaky, old, bicycle more quiet than walking?
- Let's talk about the plane scene. (1) Really, throw a bomb in the plane? Good plan. (2) How is it that THE ZOMBIE IS CHILLING IN THE CLOSET THE ENTIRE TIME. The dog barked at the beginning of the flight but somehow the zombie wasn't triggered. He wasn't triggered at any other point in the flight even though there was talking on the PA and probably talking of people on the plane. NO: the zombie comes out RIGHT WHEN THEY'RE GETTING CLOSE TO LANDING. Was he stuck in the closet?? These zombies had super strength and could break car doors and brick walls easily and yet he couldn't open the fucking closet door? Seriously?
- That brings me to my next point. The plane crashes in a forest. They were "near" their landing destination. When you're on a flight and the pilot says you've been cleared for landing, that means you're still 20-25 minutes away from landing, which equates to at least 100-200 miles. Despite being badly injured and landing randomly in the forest (and miraculously ever single person including the pilots are dead but GERRY and his Israeli pseudo-girlfriend survived), they manage to WALK right to the WHO hospital. Seriously?! How did they even know where they were, let alone find the hospital? Did the plane miraculously crash land within eyesight of the hospital? Did Gerry's phone, which wasn't even a smart phone and totally out of battery, happen to have a GPS? Did they have a map? Who the fuck knows.
- How did Gerry's phone get charged at the hospital? It was dead before, and it was a really old model, it didn't even have a keyboard or touchscreen and didn't have a color monitor. Did the hospital (a really high tech research facility) really have access to an outdated phone charger? Did Gerry keep one in his pocket? I don't understand that.
- They literally kicked Gerry's family off the boat after 40 hours of no contact. Cool.
- So one of the WHO scientists says "they'll never find the vault without my help." After the scientist and the Israeli-girl escape the zombies, Gerry WANDERS RIGHT TO THE VAULT. He just walks right to it. It takes MINUTES.
- This WHO scientist must be the clumsiest person in the world. He steps on pieces of glass, he dropped a soda can, he bumps into a wall, he hits his axe on a railing. Are you fucking joking? If I was Gerry I would have told that bitch to go back. Clearly wasn't helping at all. In fact, he almost single handedly ruined the mission. It's like if you're playing League of Legends and your ADC keeps tower diving without a support or minions. STAY BACK AND GET SOME CS DUDE.
- Let's recap: (1) They actually didn't need the scientist at all to find the vault with the 'antidote'. (2) The scientist literally almost caused them all to die by continuously running into things and making tons of noise.
- Gerry sees an old guy and a bald kid not get attacked by zombies. He then gets some flashbacks of the stupid Indian scientist's weird speech. BOOM. Comes to the conclusion that being terminally ill is actually the antidote to getting targeted by zombies.
- Apparently North Korea was totally safe because "they removed the teeth of all their citizens so nobody could bite anybody." What the fuck? Why didn't everyone just do that. Or, why didn't people go to North Korea. Seems like the tides have turned and NK has become a pretty attractive travel destination.
Overall: I'd rate this movie somewhere between god awful and "I'm embarrassed to say I paid $7 to see it." It was so bad that people went into the movie with serious expectations and halfway through the movie actually started laughing even though there were no comedic overtures whatsoever.
  
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My biggest gripe was, as many people have asked, how does the disease spread on airplanes if people turn within seconds?
Also, I hope you didn't go see After Earth.
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I did. Also terrible. I could write another 2,000 words on how bad that was but I LITERALLY forgot that I saw it until just now when you brought it up.
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On July 02 2013 17:23 Jerubaal wrote:
My biggest gripe was, as many people have asked, how does the disease spread on airplanes if people turn within seconds?
Also, I hope you didn't go see After Earth.
what do you mean?
If you are talking about the part where the main characters board the airplane,the stewardess opens up a door where a turned dude was already trapped in before they boarded,than he just bit others,etc.
Apparently North Korea was totally safe because "they removed the teeth of all their citizens so nobody could bite anybody." What the fuck? Why didn't everyone just do that. Or, why didn't people go to North Korea. Seems like the tides have turned and NK has become a pretty attractive travel destination.
as far as I understood that was a "joke",the guy that told him that pulled his own teeth out but north korea didn't actually do such a thing
Gerry sees an old guy and a bald kid not get attacked by zombies. He then gets some flashbacks of the stupid Indian scientist's weird speech. BOOM. Comes to the conclusion that being terminally ill is actually the antidote to getting targeted by zombies.
he actually sees 3 people,the homeless dude at the beginning,the old guy and the young bald kid.
How is riding a squeaky, old, bicycle more quiet than walking?
hahah i lold at that as well
I thought the movie was ok,nice time sink and I went to see it when tickets were half price so didn't waste much money.
definitely not worth the money of watching it in 3d or imax.
I saw worse movies this year tbh,pain and gain for instance.
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I don't think the stewardess opened a closet - it looked like an elevator system to bring food trays up from below the main deck.
Also the north korean "solution" was meant as a joke... I think.
The rest was awful, definitely. One of the worst movies of the year, full of hilarious incompetence from every character mingled with the movie trying to be five different genres at once. Jumps from wannabe-scary to contemplative apocalyptica to romance to generic action.
Also why didn't they just bring the guy's family back to the ship once he made contact again? Herp.
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I just finished the movie and it was just bad, I can't even remember a single good thing about it. You summed up my thoughts pretty nicely, it was really one ridiculous thing after another.
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I don't dare watching the movie. I love the book and I find like.. 90% of Brad Pits movies awesome, but it sounds like they've botched the book completely and created quite the crap movie... so sad 
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About the squeaky bike... maybe the rain was enough to mask the sound?
The whole Israel portion was stupid. Who needs guards/cameras/anything on top of the walls?
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I had a 'snakes on a plane' moment when that zombie came out the closet.
Overall, bad to insultingly bad to hilariously bad.
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I had a good chuckle reading this. Thanks Xeris.
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There's some serious fundamental problems, but you're harping on a lot of minor shit that exist in every movie. Seems like a weak iNcontroL impression.
Like, he's using a satellite phone, not an old phone. It could be charged through microUSB like any other modern phone, and its battery lasts a lot longer than a smartphone.
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On July 03 2013 00:49 Jibba wrote:
There's some serious fundamental problems, but you're harping on a lot of minor shit that exist in every movie. Seems like a weak iNcontroL impression.
this, you're just nitpicking the small stuff.
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On July 03 2013 01:22 hooahah wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 00:49 Jibba wrote:
There's some serious fundamental problems, but you're harping on a lot of minor shit that exist in every movie. Seems like a weak iNcontroL impression. this, you're just nitpicking the small stuff.
I enjoyed reading it though  It's fun to nitpick the small stuff in movies and games. Normally it makes for good conversation lol
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I enjoy nitpicking Dragonball Z, doesn't mean that it's "one of the worst shows I've ever seen"
haven't seen WWZ yet (doubt I will either) but slandering an action flick because of the small stuff is silly.
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I was sad I found a better quality (paid for wink wink) link, allowing me the displeasure of re-watching the film in better quality. As I had stopped just after the Scientist shot himself. The ability to see what was actually happening in the movie proved worse, and yet I finished it.
This movie was lame even for someone who loves zombie stuff.
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On July 03 2013 00:49 Jibba wrote:
There's some serious fundamental problems, but you're harping on a lot of minor shit that exist in every movie. Seems like a weak iNcontroL impression.
Like, he's using a satellite phone, not an old phone. It could be charged through microUSB like any other modern phone, and its battery lasts a lot longer than a smartphone.
LET ME HAVE FUN WITH THIS!
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most of this was just for comedic rather than critical value
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It felt like a 2 hour build up to an eventual sequel.. which turns out they may be planning.
Yeah it wasn't too good
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On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:- The world is ending. Gerry may be the only person with the skillset necessary to help find a cure and save everyone. His response: "Nah, I wanna be with my family." Even though saving humanity is the ONLY WAY TO SAVE YOUR FAMILY, YOU WANT TO STAY WITH THEM. FUCK HELPING PEOPLE. This sets a good tone to the film.
They barely survived an escape with their lives and his first instinct is to stay with his family... why is this so hard to believe?
[*] The ship captain actually has to threaten to kick his family off the ship in order to convince Gerry to join the mission. Seriously, for someone who was a special investigator for the UN, Gerry seems pretty stupid. Also, looking forward in the movie: for someone who was just an investigator, Gerry is pretty goddamn skilled at everything, including being having full medical training and being an expert marksmen.
He didn't know that el capitan was going kick his family off the ship initially or he would not have gone. How is this stupid?
[*]Tommy (the kid) has ZERO purpose in the movie whatsoever. Secondly, zombies break in to their house (there's only 1 door) and SOMEHOW he manages to escape totally unharmed while both of his parents get bitten and die instantly. This means, Tommy had exactly 24 seconds to escape his apartment and get all the way to the roof without getting harmed. For a 10 year old kid, that seems LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
The kid probably had some back way out of his apartment that he could fit through. Not a big stretch to imagine this. I think the purpose of him and his family was to show that not everyone turned into selfish looters when the crisis hit and that some had still retained their humanity.
[*] This zombie apocalypse has been going on for a few days and/or a week or so... this Israeli guy has the fucking foresight to build A HUGE WALL AROUND HIS WHOLE COUNTRY, and somehow they don't know that the zombies are attracted to sound. Seriously? Once that bitch picks up the mic and starts singing kumbayah I would've shot her. DONT YOU KNOW THEY ARE ATTRACTED TO SOUND?!?! And second point related to this: why was the mic hooked up to every single fucking loudspeaker in the whole area. "Ya guys, even though we know the zombies are triggered by sound, let's just have a ton of loud speakers so we can sing and praise Yaweh."
If you were listening carefully when the ex-Mossad guy was explaining about the '10th man' concept... Israel had been caught off guard in the past by major events that threatened their existence. By establishing a group of 10 who had to vote on preparations... all 9 thought the zombie threat was nonsense... it was his job to establish doubt about that and he succeeded.
The mic was clearly there to allow the troops to broadcast to the crowd to get them organized.
If you knew anything about middle-eastern culture you would know that it is popular to sing in crowds at times of stress to relieve tension.
They didn't know that sound attracted the zombies, and Gerry warnings were too late.
[*] Whats the deal with this Indian harvard scientist who was supposed to be their savior. He's literally in 3 scenes in the movie. He gives some super epic, philosophical speech (which by the way WHO FUCKING TALKS LIKE THAT), then dies instantly after in the stupidest way possible. Woops, trips and shoots himself in the head.
It was a scene to show how the chaos of such situations can easily result in the senseless deaths of inexperienced players.
[*] I can't believe that after his wife calling Gerry in the middle of trying to refuel the plan and subsequently getting 6-7 people killed, all he has to say to her the following day is "you called at a bad time." Bitch, you just killed 6 people. WHY THE FUCK DID YOU CALL ME, I TOLD YOU I WAS GONNA CALL YOU. Secondly. Why is she calling him. He specifically said he would call her. Wouldn't she know/think that maybe he's on some dangerous missions and may not have time to receive random phone calls and that he'd call when he was in a safe spot. WHY WAS HIS PHONE NOT ON SILENT.
He didn't tell her not to call him, just that he would call her every day. When he didn't call she became worried and called back, not hard to understand. Phone not on silent? This is not your iPhone, it was a satellite phone... who knows maybe you can't put it on silent.
[*] How is riding a squeaky, old, bicycle more quiet than walking?
I think the idea here was to outrun the zombies with speed on bikes.
[*] Let's talk about the plane scene. (1) Really, throw a bomb in the plane? Good plan. (2) How is it that THE ZOMBIE IS CHILLING IN THE CLOSET THE ENTIRE TIME. The dog barked at the beginning of the flight but somehow the zombie wasn't triggered. He wasn't triggered at any other point in the flight even though there was talking on the PA and probably talking of people on the plane. NO: the zombie comes out RIGHT WHEN THEY'RE GETTING CLOSE TO LANDING. Was he stuck in the closet?? These zombies had super strength and could break car doors and brick walls easily and yet he couldn't open the fucking closet door? Seriously?
Grenade? It was a difficult choice between certain death (zombie) and near certain death (plane crash). I would have done the same rather than get bitten... at least I might have had some chance.
Zombie was down in the cargo hold and was brought up to the upper level by the stewardess... I thought this was perfectly clear. Maybe you've never been on this kinds of planes were there is two levels.
[*] That brings me to my next point. The plane crashes in a forest. They were "near" their landing destination. When you're on a flight and the pilot says you've been cleared for landing, that means you're still 20-25 minutes away from landing, which equates to at least 100-200 miles. Despite being badly injured and landing randomly in the forest (and miraculously ever single person including the pilots are dead but GERRY and his Israeli pseudo-girlfriend survived), they manage to WALK right to the WHO hospital. Seriously?! How did they even know where they were, let alone find the hospital? Did the plane miraculously crash land within eyesight of the hospital? Did Gerry's phone, which wasn't even a smart phone and totally out of battery, happen to have a GPS? Did they have a map? Who the fuck knows.
They survived because they were near the front of the plane. Statistically plane crash survivors are either at the very front or the very back.
Maybe you missed it, but at least one zombie survived and was still buckled into her seat.
Is it so much of a stretch to imagine they went to the nearest town and checked signs/maps for directions? We did see them walking through the town where there was at least one survivor (the old woman in the window). The movie can only fit so much into 2 hours you know.
[*] How did Gerry's phone get charged at the hospital? It was dead before, and it was a really old model, it didn't even have a keyboard or touchscreen and didn't have a color monitor. Did the hospital (a really high tech research facility) really have access to an outdated phone charger? Did Gerry keep one in his pocket? I don't understand that.
These sat phones often use standard batteries so they are easy to replace in the field.
[*] They literally kicked Gerry's family off the boat after 40 hours of no contact. Cool.
Too bad for them. Its tough in the zombie apocalypse.
[*] So one of the WHO scientists says "they'll never find the vault without my help." After the scientist and the Israeli-girl escape the zombies, Gerry WANDERS RIGHT TO THE VAULT. He just walks right to it. It takes MINUTES.
They got pretty far in. Gerry had to just explore a bit to find it.
[*] This WHO scientist must be the clumsiest person in the world. He steps on pieces of glass, he dropped a soda can, he bumps into a wall, he hits his axe on a railing. Are you fucking joking? If I was Gerry I would have told that bitch to go back. Clearly wasn't helping at all. In fact, he almost single handedly ruined the mission. It's like if you're playing League of Legends and your ADC keeps tower diving without a support or minions. STAY BACK AND GET SOME CS DUDE.
Most people are not calm and composed in such a situation, and will often panic, be clumsy, do stupid things.... etc.
[*] Gerry sees an old guy and a bald kid not get attacked by zombies. He then gets some flashbacks of the stupid Indian scientist's weird speech. BOOM. Comes to the conclusion that being terminally ill is actually the antidote to getting targeted by zombies.
He's a smart guy and figured it out. Hell I figured it out the first time I saw zombies run by someone and I'm not that smart. :p
[*] Apparently North Korea was totally safe because "they removed the teeth of all their citizens so nobody could bite anybody." What the fuck? Why didn't everyone just do that. Or, why didn't people go to North Korea. Seems like the tides have turned and NK has become a pretty attractive travel destination.
Yea i think it was pretty obvious that this was the ranting of a toothless madman and was not to be taken seriously, as others have already pointed out.
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Well I think your criticisms are petty and put down on a movie that I thought was surprisingly good. The plane, Israel and WHO scenes were really well done. This is coming from a guy who loved the book and was dreading how the movie would turn out. Yea it shares its name and zombies only with the book, but it could have been a lot worse.
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The action of the movie was okay but the story in itself was just stupid ...
Full of plot holes and things that defile a normal logical mind.
The story about North Korea and that Israel wall and 10 man bullshit was just such a grotesque nonsense ...
I liked the scene where this scientist shot himself in the head, but I agree with the bicicle nonsense, the plane crash was a bit to much I think.
Why did the scients question him like an idiot at the research facility, they could also have been simple villagers that required help, but no they have to call via satellite phone and shit ...
And the end where they had to enter the lab was just moronic nonsense ... and why didnt they tell him the code from the start ? What if the phones didn't work ?
And where was the red queen telling him that they "are all gonna die down here" ? Damn it wrong movie.
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hahah oh man I really want to watch this movie now, I don't want to waste money on it though.
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It was raining so the sound of the bikes wasn't actually that much louder than walking because the rain shrouded it.
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[QUOTE]On July 03 2013 03:20 MilkDud wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:
- The world is ending. Gerry may be the only person with the skillset necessary to help find a cure and save everyone. His response: "Nah, I wanna be with my family." Even though saving humanity is the ONLY WAY TO SAVE YOUR FAMILY, YOU WANT TO STAY WITH THEM. FUCK HELPING PEOPLE. This sets a good tone to the film.
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They barely survived an escape with their lives and his first instinct is to stay with his family... why is this so hard to believe?
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[*] The ship captain actually has to threaten to kick his family off the ship in order to convince Gerry to join the mission. Seriously, for someone who was a special investigator for the UN, Gerry seems pretty stupid. Also, looking forward in the movie: for someone who was just an investigator, Gerry is pretty goddamn skilled at everything, including being having full medical training and being an expert marksmen.
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He didn't know that el capitan was going kick his family off the ship initially or he would not have gone. How is this stupid?
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[*]Tommy (the kid) has ZERO purpose in the movie whatsoever. Secondly, zombies break in to their house (there's only 1 door) and SOMEHOW he manages to escape totally unharmed while both of his parents get bitten and die instantly. This means, Tommy had exactly 24 seconds to escape his apartment and get all the way to the roof without getting harmed. For a 10 year old kid, that seems LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
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The kid probably had some back way out of his apartment that he could fit through. Not a big stretch to imagine this. I think the purpose of him and his family was to show that not everyone turned into selfish looters when the crisis hit and that some had still retained their humanity.
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[*] This zombie apocalypse has been going on for a few days and/or a week or so... this Israeli guy has the fucking foresight to build A HUGE WALL AROUND HIS WHOLE COUNTRY, and somehow they don't know that the zombies are attracted to sound. Seriously? Once that bitch picks up the mic and starts singing kumbayah I would've shot her. DONT YOU KNOW THEY ARE ATTRACTED TO SOUND?!?! And second point related to this: why was the mic hooked up to every single fucking loudspeaker in the whole area. "Ya guys, even though we know the zombies are triggered by sound, let's just have a ton of loud speakers so we can sing and praise Yaweh."
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If you were listening carefully when the ex-Mossad guy was explaining about the '10th man' concept... Israel had been caught off guard in the past by major events that threatened their existence. By establishing a group of 10 who had to vote on preparations... all 9 thought the zombie threat was nonsense... it was his job to establish doubt about that and he succeeded.
The mic was clearly there to allow the troops to broadcast to the crowd to get them organized.
If you knew anything about middle-eastern culture you would know that it is popular to sing in crowds at times of stress to relieve tension.
They didn't know that sound attracted the zombies, and Gerry warnings were too late.
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[*] Whats the deal with this Indian harvard scientist who was supposed to be their savior. He's literally in 3 scenes in the movie. He gives some super epic, philosophical speech (which by the way WHO FUCKING TALKS LIKE THAT), then dies instantly after in the stupidest way possible. Woops, trips and shoots himself in the head.
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It was a scene to show how the chaos of such situations can easily result in the senseless deaths of inexperienced players.
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[*] I can't believe that after his wife calling Gerry in the middle of trying to refuel the plan and subsequently getting 6-7 people killed, all he has to say to her the following day is "you called at a bad time." Bitch, you just killed 6 people. WHY THE FUCK DID YOU CALL ME, I TOLD YOU I WAS GONNA CALL YOU. Secondly. Why is she calling him. He specifically said he would call her. Wouldn't she know/think that maybe he's on some dangerous missions and may not have time to receive random phone calls and that he'd call when he was in a safe spot. WHY WAS HIS PHONE NOT ON SILENT.
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He didn't tell her not to call him, just that he would call her every day. When he didn't call she became worried and called back, not hard to understand. Phone not on silent? This is not your iPhone, it was a satellite phone... who knows maybe you can't put it on silent.
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[*] How is riding a squeaky, old, bicycle more quiet than walking?
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I think the idea here was to outrun the zombies with speed on bikes.
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[*] Let's talk about the plane scene. (1) Really, throw a bomb in the plane? Good plan. (2) How is it that THE ZOMBIE IS CHILLING IN THE CLOSET THE ENTIRE TIME. The dog barked at the beginning of the flight but somehow the zombie wasn't triggered. He wasn't triggered at any other point in the flight even though there was talking on the PA and probably talking of people on the plane. NO: the zombie comes out RIGHT WHEN THEY'RE GETTING CLOSE TO LANDING. Was he stuck in the closet?? These zombies had super strength and could break car doors and brick walls easily and yet he couldn't open the fucking closet door? Seriously?
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Grenade? It was a difficult choice between certain death (zombie) and near certain death (plane crash). I would have done the same rather than get bitten... at least I might have had some chance.
Zombie was down in the cargo hold and was brought up to the upper level by the stewardess... I thought this was perfectly clear. Maybe you've never been on this kinds of planes were there is two levels.
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[*] That brings me to my next point. The plane crashes in a forest. They were "near" their landing destination. When you're on a flight and the pilot says you've been cleared for landing, that means you're still 20-25 minutes away from landing, which equates to at least 100-200 miles. Despite being badly injured and landing randomly in the forest (and miraculously ever single person including the pilots are dead but GERRY and his Israeli pseudo-girlfriend survived), they manage to WALK right to the WHO hospital. Seriously?! How did they even know where they were, let alone find the hospital? Did the plane miraculously crash land within eyesight of the hospital? Did Gerry's phone, which wasn't even a smart phone and totally out of battery, happen to have a GPS? Did they have a map? Who the fuck knows.
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They survived because they were near the front of the plane. Statistically plane crash survivors are either at the very front or the very back.
Maybe you missed it, but at least one zombie survived and was still buckled into her seat.
Is it so much of a stretch to imagine they went to the nearest town and checked signs/maps for directions? We did see them walking through the town where there was at least one survivor (the old woman in the window). The movie can only fit so much into 2 hours you know.
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[*] How did Gerry's phone get charged at the hospital? It was dead before, and it was a really old model, it didn't even have a keyboard or touchscreen and didn't have a color monitor. Did the hospital (a really high tech research facility) really have access to an outdated phone charger? Did Gerry keep one in his pocket? I don't understand that.
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These sat phones often use standard batteries so they are easy to replace in the field.
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[*] They literally kicked Gerry's family off the boat after 40 hours of no contact. Cool.
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Too bad for them. Its tough in the zombie apocalypse.
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[*] So one of the WHO scientists says "they'll never find the vault without my help." After the scientist and the Israeli-girl escape the zombies, Gerry WANDERS RIGHT TO THE VAULT. He just walks right to it. It takes MINUTES.
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They got pretty far in. Gerry had to just explore a bit to find it.
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[*] This WHO scientist must be the clumsiest person in the world. He steps on pieces of glass, he dropped a soda can, he bumps into a wall, he hits his axe on a railing. Are you fucking joking? If I was Gerry I would have told that bitch to go back. Clearly wasn't helping at all. In fact, he almost single handedly ruined the mission. It's like if you're playing League of Legends and your ADC keeps tower diving without a support or minions. STAY BACK AND GET SOME CS DUDE.
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Most people are not calm and composed in such a situation, and will often panic, be clumsy, do stupid things.... etc.
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[*] Gerry sees an old guy and a bald kid not get attacked by zombies. He then gets some flashbacks of the stupid Indian scientist's weird speech. BOOM. Comes to the conclusion that being terminally ill is actually the antidote to getting targeted by zombies.
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He's a smart guy and figured it out. Hell I figured it out the first time I saw zombies run by someone and I'm not that smart. :p
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[*] Apparently North Korea was totally safe because "they removed the teeth of all their citizens so nobody could bite anybody." What the fuck? Why didn't everyone just do that. Or, why didn't people go to North Korea. Seems like the tides have turned and NK has become a pretty attractive travel destination.
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Yea i think it was pretty obvious that this was the ranting of a toothless madman and was not to be taken seriously, as others have already pointed out.
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Well I think your criticisms are petty and put down on a movie that I thought was surprisingly good. The plane, Israel and WHO scenes were really well done. This is coming from a guy who loved the book and was dreading how the movie would turn out. Yea it shares its name and zombies only with the book, but it could have been a lot worse.[/QUOTE]
I hated the book with all my heart. It was for me unbearable. I did finish it so I would be able to say how much I hated it. But I agree that the movie was great and thanks to the book I'm not critizicing the scenes within the film.
The book is like watching Street fighter II: The movie. A lot of characters and there is not development.
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The book could be a sick HBO series, but not much else. But the book definitely wasn't perfect either. Battle of Yonkers was a whole lot of bullshit.
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Well...this movie is NOT supposed to be non-fiction. it is the interpretation of the director. And ofc, the director's interpretation will not always correspond with other individuals thoughts
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On July 03 2013 03:20 MilkDud wrote:
I LIKE THIS MOVIE BECAUSE I'M DUMB.
You're being that guy. That guy who decides he's going to go, point-by-point and defend something god-awful and then hit the post button thinking "This'll change that arrogant guy's mind!" Don't be that guy. There's still time to delete your post! WWZ is a very poorly-constructed tangled mess of vomit-shit-piss.
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On July 03 2013 13:27 ninazerg wrote:
WWZ is a very poorly-constructed tangled mess of vomit-shit-piss.
So it's like the vast majority of your posts.
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On July 03 2013 13:53 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 13:27 ninazerg wrote:
WWZ is a very poorly-constructed tangled mess of vomit-shit-piss. So it's like the vast majority of your posts.
I guess this is where we've dropped the entire pretense of actually having a discussion in this thread.
Lot of 'petty' things in the main post, but often its the small petty things that cause the whole to fall apart.
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I agree with all the critism. Yeah at 1st it was an okay better than after earth or superman movie but now they are all the same with superman the worst. I hope wolverine is better as all movies coming out so far are just bad.. I was really expecting a lot from After Earth, superman and worldwar Z, fuck it was like 2 yrs in the making with so much hype and has fucking brad f'ing Pitt on it. I really also fucking hate the fucking wife call but now I realized brad was even dumber.
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On July 03 2013 13:27 ninazerg wrote:You're being that guy. That guy who decides he's going to go, point-by-point and defend something god-awful and then hit the post button thinking "This'll change that arrogant guy's mind!" Don't be that guy. There's still time to delete your post! WWZ is a very poorly-constructed tangled mess of vomit-shit-piss.
LOOOOOOOL
dont be that guy!
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@Xeris,
Like myself, You must not like most newer movies these days then. 95% of the stuff that comes out now-a-days is pure crap. I hate being insulted when watching movies. Constant plot holes really ruin good action movies for me.
You forgot to add a few things that I found interesting:
-It is rumored that this started in the "Asian Peninsula's" or even Taiwan. I think the book is different and says China and then Taiwan, but anways....South Korea is the most advanced technological place on this earth. Don't you think 1 Zombie would have been spotted and 400 korean girls taking pics/videos and uploading it to the web? That shit would have spread on the internet in 15 minutes to every country in the world. There is simply no way a Zombie outbreak in South Korea would spread to the entire world.
-The Isreal Wall, and how people entered. I didn't understand this...you saw people walking to the wall covered in Fences? Some people getting off Buses? But weren't they open to the Zombies? Was there infected and non-infected people standing around, outside the wall? I couldn't figure-out the wall set-up. You have this massive fucking wall, but no watch guards around the tops of the wall? Cameras? Do you know how easy it is to set up a bunch of plastic cameras with decent quality? Easier than making a huge fucking wall. Definitely should have seen those Zombies stacking up.
-How the fuck do a few people on the run-way stop a big ass airplane from taking off? Do you know how big airports are? To build a giant wall around the airport? Were the runways even in the airport?
-Tommy's apartment. Just because you're a human and turn into a Zombie doesn't remove the laws of nature and science about force. If that apartment door is steel and dead bolted, a few humans banging off it, isn't going to break through the fucking door. It's just not happening.
-Back to the technology thing...they sent an email from North Korea...that was the big thing "an email"...its 2013...did zombies take down the satellites too? Why did all connections go down? Didn't they still have laptops there? Just stupid.
The "movie's" world war Z story would never have happened. It simply wouldn't spread that fast across the globe. More countries, like 80% of the world would still be safe.
EDIT:
wow just thought of this one. "DRONES" Apparently the United States has drones stationed around the world. They can have a live camera feed of anywhere in the world in just a matter of minutes. Don't you think all drones stationed around Korea would have been set off, remotely, and electronically to go see what was happening?
Yup this movie is bullshit and makes me even more mad thinking about it.
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Yeah, but i am a uptight guy, i took the movie as a comedy version of WWZ book and i have a nice time. Kinda like a scary movie.
The good thing for those who haven't read the book, many somewhat enjoy the movie as a zombie flick and you can point them to the book.
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On July 03 2013 13:53 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 13:27 ninazerg wrote:
WWZ is a very poorly-constructed tangled mess of vomit-shit-piss. So it's like the vast majority of your posts.
Thanks. You as well.
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On July 04 2013 02:00 Nizzy wrote:
-It is rumored that this started in the "Asian Peninsula's" or even Taiwan. I think the book is different and says China and then Taiwan, but anways....South Korea is the most advanced technological place on this earth. Don't you think 1 Zombie would have been spotted and 400 korean girls taking pics/videos and uploading it to the web? That shit would have spread on the internet in 15 minutes to every country in the world. There is simply no way a Zombie outbreak in South Korea would spread to the entire world.
This point kind of bugged me, and it's not even because I'm from Taiwan. Objectively speaking, Taiwan is a fairly small country with a well functioning universal health care system, whereas China has a rather "interesting" history when it comes to epidemics.
In the book, the outbreak indeed started in some rural region in China, and it's much more plausible than it starting in Taiwan, largely because there are still regions in China where there simply isn't adequate reporting and medical care, not to mention transparent communication regarding epidemics at the moment. Looking at the SARS outbreak should be obvious, and the official response and cover-up attempt that happens every time something like this occurs should be known to all.
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On July 04 2013 02:00 Nizzy wrote:
@Xeris,
Like myself, You must not like most newer movies these days then. 95% of the stuff that comes out now-a-days is pure crap. I hate being insulted when watching movies. Constant plot holes really ruin good action movies for me.
You forgot to add a few things that I found interesting:
-It is rumored that this started in the "Asian Peninsula's" or even Taiwan. I think the book is different and says China and then Taiwan, but anways....South Korea is the most advanced technological place on this earth. Don't you think 1 Zombie would have been spotted and 400 korean girls taking pics/videos and uploading it to the web? That shit would have spread on the internet in 15 minutes to every country in the world. There is simply no way a Zombie outbreak in South Korea would spread to the entire world.
-The Isreal Wall, and how people entered. I didn't understand this...you saw people walking to the wall covered in Fences? Some people getting off Buses? But weren't they open to the Zombies? Was there infected and non-infected people standing around, outside the wall? I couldn't figure-out the wall set-up. You have this massive fucking wall, but no watch guards around the tops of the wall? Cameras? Do you know how easy it is to set up a bunch of plastic cameras with decent quality? Easier than making a huge fucking wall. Definitely should have seen those Zombies stacking up.
-How the fuck do a few people on the run-way stop a big ass airplane from taking off? Do you know how big airports are? To build a giant wall around the airport? Were the runways even in the airport?
-Tommy's apartment. Just because you're a human and turn into a Zombie doesn't remove the laws of nature and science about force. If that apartment door is steel and dead bolted, a few humans banging off it, isn't going to break through the fucking door. It's just not happening.
-Back to the technology thing...they sent an email from North Korea...that was the big thing "an email"...its 2013...did zombies take down the satellites too? Why did all connections go down? Didn't they still have laptops there? Just stupid.
The "movie's" world war Z story would never have happened. It simply wouldn't spread that fast across the globe. More countries, like 80% of the world would still be safe.
EDIT:
wow just thought of this one. "DRONES" Apparently the United States has drones stationed around the world. They can have a live camera feed of anywhere in the world in just a matter of minutes. Don't you think all drones stationed around Korea would have been set off, remotely, and electronically to go see what was happening?
Yup this movie is bullshit and makes me even more mad thinking about it.
damn those are some good points, i didn't think about the S.Korea thing
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The most unbelievable part of this thread is the fact that movie tickets cost $7 in your country, wtf
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Glad I'm not the only one that think this movie is fucking dumb, story wise.
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The movie was honestly fine considering the source material's style. As for the movie itself, I found some parts hilariously stereotypical...
1. It just has to be black cop that runs into the store to steal stuff.
2. All the women are useless until...
3. The Israeli women, and that's not breaking any molds.
4. The Palestinians/Muslims have to Trojan horse Israel, even when the latter is letting them in.
5. Of course it has to be the crazy Russians who go full-on fuck-your-shit and not giving a fuck at the end.
6. The pointless/useless black man in power.
7. The Indian/Pakistani American born doctor who has no clue how the world works.
The whole spread thing I can buy, the time frame I can not. Like how do you have perpetual supply of zombies? Eventually shit will break down.
I'll add to your list of inconsistencies, the soldier who watched a bunch of them turn zeke and stood in the room in SKorea, what kind of disability/disease would you have to have in order for the Army to keep you and have the zombies ignore you?
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i thought israel intercepted some info from india saying theyre fighting against zombies thats why they had the wall built before zombies plague arrive.
thing is, though, how did gerry picked the right bacteria to inject himself when he doesnt even know which one is what.
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I just saw the movie...I think, without too much exaggeration, that it's one of the worst movie I've ever seen. Basically a movie made to be sold on its super hype trailer, but with nothing more than what you saw in the trailer. No substance, nothing. Basically a scam movie. You want to see him because damn, dat trailer. But then you watch it and it has the same effect on you than putting your head in front of a farting anus for 2 hours. And paying for it.
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On July 03 2013 08:34 LuckyFool wrote:
hahah oh man I really want to watch this movie now, I don't want to waste money on it though.
Seriously no, it's not one of those so bad it's good movie, it's one of those so bad you want t oshot yourself and leave the theater crying. This film is nearly insulting.
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On July 05 2013 08:19 Judicator wrote:
The movie was honestly fine considering the source material's style. As for the movie itself, I found some parts hilariously stereotypical...
1. It just has to be black cop that runs into the store to steal stuff.
2. All the women are useless until...
3. The Israeli women, and that's not breaking any molds.
4. The Palestinians/Muslims have to Trojan horse Israel, even when the latter is letting them in.
5. Of course it has to be the crazy Russians who go full-on fuck-your-shit and not giving a fuck at the end.
6. The pointless/useless black man in power.
7. The Indian/Pakistani American born doctor who has no clue how the world works.
The whole spread thing I can buy, the time frame I can not. Like how do you have perpetual supply of zombies? Eventually shit will break down.
I'll add to your list of inconsistencies, the soldier who watched a bunch of them turn zeke and stood in the room in SKorea, what kind of disability/disease would you have to have in order for the Army to keep you and have the zombies ignore you?
LOL damn right, I guess they just want to make it more obvious hahahaha stereotypical shit to make it easier for the "dumb guy" as stated by the other guys. "that dumb guy" hahaha
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On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:- The world is ending. Gerry may be the only person with the skillset necessary to help find a cure and save everyone. His response: "Nah, I wanna be with my family." Even though saving humanity is the ONLY WAY TO SAVE YOUR FAMILY, YOU WANT TO STAY WITH THEM. FUCK HELPING PEOPLE. This sets a good tone to the film.
Trust me, your instinct is to stay with the family. He is NOT the only hope for all mankind lmao. He doesn't want to fight this fight, he can help, but he wants to spend time with his family. It's the same concept as people who choose to not fight in wars, they can help, but they want someone else to fight the fight for them. This is not uncommon, already a silly argument first bullet point lol
On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:- The ship captain actually has to threaten to kick his family off the ship in order to convince Gerry to join the mission. Seriously, for someone who was a special investigator for the UN, Gerry seems pretty stupid. Also, looking forward in the movie: for someone who was just an investigator, Gerry is pretty goddamn skilled at everything, including being having full medical training and being an expert marksmen.
It's not kicking him out to die, they'd have to send them to a refugee camp. That ship is overcrowded and it's now a military/stratigics ship, resources/space are limited, and they can't afford to be a hotel for 5 useless refugees. Again, silly point. They also note that he was one of the best survivors they ever had, how is it hard to believe there are people out there with skills like he has (medical training, some gun training, etc), there are tons of people like that in the world right now haha Did you even pay attention to what his work backstory was? My guess is no. Another retarded nitpick point, bias is obvious here lol
On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:- Tommy (the kid) has ZERO purpose in the movie whatsoever. Secondly, zombies break in to their house (there's only 1 door) and SOMEHOW he manages to escape totally unharmed while both of his parents get bitten and die instantly. This means, Tommy had exactly 24 seconds to escape his apartment and get all the way to the roof without getting harmed. For a 10 year old kid, that seems LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
Agreed tbqh, movie could've definitely done without tommy lol Also not sure how he would've survived, and lol @ the kid basically not giving a f*ck despite just seeing his parents get eaten alive
On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:- This zombie apocalypse has been going on for a few days and/or a week or so... this Israeli guy has the fucking foresight to build A HUGE WALL AROUND HIS WHOLE COUNTRY, and somehow they don't know that the zombies are attracted to sound. Seriously? Once that bitch picks up the mic and starts singing kumbayah I would've shot her. DONT YOU KNOW THEY ARE ATTRACTED TO SOUND?!?! And second point related to this: why was the mic hooked up to every single fucking loudspeaker in the whole area. "Ya guys, even though we know the zombies are triggered by sound, let's just have a ton of loud speakers so we can sing and praise Yaweh."
The wall thing was pretty unbelievable in itself, but I totally agree with the sound thing. My best guess is that they knew they'd be attracted to sound, but let's be honest, it's kind of a shocking thing that they could've piled up that f*cking high on the wall and actually made it across. It's extremely annoying to us because we know what it'll lead to, but ya, not something I'd nitpick at
On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:- Whats the deal with this Indian harvard scientist who was supposed to be their savior. He's literally in 3 scenes in the movie. He gives some super epic, philosophical speech (which by the way WHO FUCKING TALKS LIKE THAT), then dies instantly after in the stupidest way possible. Woops, trips and shoots himself in the head.
His point was to show how much they actually needed Gerry I guess seeing as how the kid had no survival skills like Gerry did. I wish they would've given him a bit of a better death other than tripping himself (lol), but he served his purpose in establishing that fact.
On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:- I can't believe that after his wife calling Gerry in the middle of trying to refuel the plan and subsequently getting 6-7 people killed, all he has to say to her the following day is "you called at a bad time." Bitch, you just killed 6 people. WHY THE FUCK DID YOU CALL ME, I TOLD YOU I WAS GONNA CALL YOU. Secondly. Why is she calling him. He specifically said he would call her. Wouldn't she know/think that maybe he's on some dangerous missions and may not have time to receive random phone calls and that he'd call when he was in a safe spot. WHY WAS HIS PHONE NOT ON SILENT.
LOL wtf was he supposed to tell her. You obv would've tell her that she almost just killed you and got a bunch of others killed. She was def ret*rded for calling, but let's be honest, most women wouldn't be able to resist the urge. Not a movie flaw, just the truth. N*ggu should've def put it on silent tbh
On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:- How is riding a squeaky, old, bicycle more quiet than walking?
Faster, and not loud. Not sure why you'd nitpick at this
On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:- Let's talk about the plane scene. (1) Really, throw a bomb in the plane? Good plan. (2) How is it that THE ZOMBIE IS CHILLING IN THE CLOSET THE ENTIRE TIME. The dog barked at the beginning of the flight but somehow the zombie wasn't triggered. He wasn't triggered at any other point in the flight even though there was talking on the PA and probably talking of people on the plane. NO: the zombie comes out RIGHT WHEN THEY'RE GETTING CLOSE TO LANDING. Was he stuck in the closet?? These zombies had super strength and could break car doors and brick walls easily and yet he couldn't open the fucking closet door? Seriously?
On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:- That brings me to my next point. The plane crashes in a forest. They were "near" their landing destination. When you're on a flight and the pilot says you've been cleared for landing, that means you're still 20-25 minutes away from landing, which equates to at least 100-200 miles. Despite being badly injured and landing randomly in the forest (and miraculously ever single person including the pilots are dead but GERRY and his Israeli pseudo-girlfriend survived), they manage to WALK right to the WHO hospital. Seriously?! How did they even know where they were, let alone find the hospital? Did the plane miraculously crash land within eyesight of the hospital? Did Gerry's phone, which wasn't even a smart phone and totally out of battery, happen to have a GPS? Did they have a map? Who the fuck knows.
I won't make any arguments on the plane scene. It was pretty unbelivable, I wish they would've handled all of that way better.
On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:- How did Gerry's phone get charged at the hospital? It was dead before, and it was a really old model, it didn't even have a keyboard or touchscreen and didn't have a color monitor. Did the hospital (a really high tech research facility) really have access to an outdated phone charger? Did Gerry keep one in his pocket? I don't understand that.
Blatantly looking for things to complain about at this point tbh. It's not at all unbelievable they'd be able to recharge it at the facility, or that Gerry took one with him (did he expect the one charge to last him the weeks he'll be overseas?) LOL
On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:- They literally kicked Gerry's family off the boat after 40 hours of no contact. Cool.
See points above. It's not kicking them out, l2listen
On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:- So one of the WHO scientists says "they'll never find the vault without my help." After the scientist and the Israeli-girl escape the zombies, Gerry WANDERS RIGHT TO THE VAULT. He just walks right to it. It takes MINUTES.
He guided them all the way into where the vault section was, and Gerry saw them running that way when he led the zombies out. He knew the general direction and location because the WHO scientist lead them there, they also layed out/showed the whole place and path on the cameras before to everyone. How is it a bad thing to bring someone who is familiar with the building? Makes no sense to get angry at this lol
On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:- This WHO scientist must be the clumsiest person in the world. He steps on pieces of glass, he dropped a soda can, he bumps into a wall, he hits his axe on a railing. Are you fucking joking? If I was Gerry I would have told that bitch to go back. Clearly wasn't helping at all. In fact, he almost single handedly ruined the mission. It's like if you're playing League of Legends and your ADC keeps tower diving without a support or minions. STAY BACK AND GET SOME CS DUDE.
He was pretty damn clumsy, painful to watch lol
On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:- Let's recap: (1) They actually didn't need the scientist at all to find the vault with the 'antidote'. (2) The scientist literally almost caused them all to die by continuously running into things and making tons of noise.
(1) see above (2) it was annoying, you'd figure he'd learn after the first couple mistakes, some were unavoidable though (like the door) lol
On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:- Gerry sees an old guy and a bald kid not get attacked by zombies. He then gets some flashbacks of the stupid Indian scientist's weird speech. BOOM. Comes to the conclusion that being terminally ill is actually the antidote to getting targeted by zombies.
Tbh, I knew from the moment they avoided the homeless guy something was up. I thought that maybe they didn't see at threat from people who weren't moving/running away. The moment they talked about that guy who just standed there and survived in SK, I pieced it together that it had something to do with condition in their body. It's not a hard puzzle to piece, there were so many clues, and clearly Gerry is extremely smart and attentive to detail (who else would be calm enough to actually count how long it takes them to turn after lik 3 minutes of chaos in first encounter?). You were clearly too busy trying to hate the movie to pay attention to details, it's obvious through your whole post
On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:- Apparently North Korea was totally safe because "they removed the teeth of all their citizens so nobody could bite anybody." What the fuck? Why didn't everyone just do that. Or, why didn't people go to North Korea. Seems like the tides have turned and NK has become a pretty attractive travel destination.C
The whole NK teeth thing was a bit whack tbh, but lol @ the "why didn't everyone just do that" reaction. Cmon
On July 02 2013 17:07 Xeris wrote:
Overall: I'd rate this movie somewhere between god awful and "I'm embarrassed to say I paid $7 to see it."
You must not watch a lot of movies if you think this is relatively that bad to everything else that's out there lol
TBQH movie had it's flaws and was no masterpiece, but this is a perfect example of someone who just blatantly is trying to hate on something without paying any attention to the actual film, instead just looking for things to hate. You likely walked in the theater already planning this blog post tbh
EDIT: Oh and for the people complaining about "how it spread through airplanes", did you even watch the movie? They repeaditely said that many of the early victims took hours/days to turn when infected, it's pretty obvious the virus gets more and more effective the more times it transfer over, to the point where it's now at the ~10-12 second mark.
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On July 04 2013 12:01 Funnytoss wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 02:00 Nizzy wrote:
-It is rumored that this started in the "Asian Peninsula's" or even Taiwan. I think the book is different and says China and then Taiwan, but anways....South Korea is the most advanced technological place on this earth. Don't you think 1 Zombie would have been spotted and 400 korean girls taking pics/videos and uploading it to the web? That shit would have spread on the internet in 15 minutes to every country in the world. There is simply no way a Zombie outbreak in South Korea would spread to the entire world. This point kind of bugged me, and it's not even because I'm from Taiwan. Objectively speaking, Taiwan is a fairly small country with a well functioning universal health care system, whereas China has a rather "interesting" history when it comes to epidemics. In the book, the outbreak indeed started in some rural region in China, and it's much more plausible than it starting in Taiwan, largely because there are still regions in China where there simply isn't adequate reporting and medical care, not to mention transparent communication regarding epidemics at the moment. Looking at the SARS outbreak should be obvious, and the official response and cover-up attempt that happens every time something like this occurs should be known to all.
Movies writers should read this discussions and get them facts straight! if they read all of this they would have a great zombie movie and avoid those inconsistencies. It would be great to have a good realistic zombie movie.
Still though, better story than twilight
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Haven't seen the movie. Saw the trailer x million times, and every time I thought "wow, that looks terrible." Good to know I shouldn't waste time on this.
I'm a bit surprised at Brad Pitt. At this point in his career he usually doesn't choose to do absolutely terrible movies. Maybe they offered him too much money to refuse.
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Just saw it. Unbelievably stupid. The irrelevant scientist slipping and killing himself, the miracle boy that doesn't give a shit about his parents dying, the bloodless amputation, the running around fighting zombies 3 days after being impaled by shrapnel, (he was groaning just trying to sit up) zombies jumping off the wall in israel and somehow not breaking their legs and the constant sound-making (especially the phone calls - the wife's an idiot and they should've just been told the vault code in advance). Then somehow only Gerry noticed that terminally ill people were getting ignored yet tens of thousands of them would be surviving worldwide, going to camps and saying "wtf the zombies just run right past me." I don't know how you can make a movie based on a book and have such a retarded, hole-ridden narrative.
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On July 05 2013 08:19 Judicator wrote:
The movie was honestly fine considering the source material's style. As for the movie itself, I found some parts hilariously stereotypical...
1. It just has to be black cop that runs into the store to steal stuff.
2. All the women are useless until...
3. The Israeli women, and that's not breaking any molds.
4. The Palestinians/Muslims have to Trojan horse Israel, even when the latter is letting them in.
5. Of course it has to be the crazy Russians who go full-on fuck-your-shit and not giving a fuck at the end.
6. The pointless/useless black man in power.
7. The Indian/Pakistani American born doctor who has no clue how the world works.
The whole spread thing I can buy, the time frame I can not. Like how do you have perpetual supply of zombies? Eventually shit will break down.
I'll add to your list of inconsistencies, the soldier who watched a bunch of them turn zeke and stood in the room in SKorea, what kind of disability/disease would you have to have in order for the Army to keep you and have the zombies ignore you?
to be fair about 1, that is in newark, nj. that's a chocolate town.
that soldier, maybe some kind of muscular dystrophy or who knows what. there are a ton of things that could give you bad joints, and they left what kind of disease would steer them away as ambiguous. just becaues the vaccine in the end was based off of whatever gery infected himself with doesnt mean others dont have the same effect.
also, i am surprised no one picked up on it, but the kid tommy most likely survived because he had something himself.
i dunno, i didnt find the movie to be as bad as people thought, at least on the plot hole things. the isreali situation was stupid, and the plane crash and magically finding the who installation was pretty silly as well. those were the only particularlly egregious ones in my mind. others were not as bad and some you just have to think about (zombie on the plane: that goes to an elevator in the basement and it easily could have just stumbled into it then; cell phone battery for what jibba said etc)
i also didnt read the book but plan on doing so, but based on what i know i could see why people are miffed about that.
i dunno. not as horrible as people are making it out to be, but i wouldnt call it particularly good either.
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Yeah I'm annoyed that this is allegedly some kind of biological infection, so to mask themselves they infect themselves with some curable illness or whatever. Why do I have a problem with this? Because the zombies are still somehow immortal. These zombies, regardless of "dormancy," cannot die of dehydration or starvation, maybe even not of age. This violates the idea that this is biological and not supernatural. Infected humans that do not eat or drink and when alarmed can sprint full-speed after such a period of no fuel? Regardless of the stupid "mother earth is the greatest killer" speech, there probably couldn't be a virus or bacteria that causes zombified immortality or infinite energy. At least if they went with the whole "supernatural" idea instead of a scientific one, they could at least had a fucking wizard summon or something. That would have made the movie seven billion times better. Wizards, baby!
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Duran I have a question for you. Why do you go see movies that you know are going to be ridiculously bad? Are you hoping they're so bad that you will find them enjoyable?
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On July 03 2013 11:05 Jibba wrote:
The book could be a sick HBO series, but not much else. But the book definitely wasn't perfect either. Battle of Yonkers was a whole lot of bullshit.
Actually, I thought the battle of Yonkers made a lot of sense overall.
+ Show Spoiler +Think about it. The modern militiaries are all designed and outfitted to battle conventional enemies. The enemies they were facing were not conventional. This was basically their first major engagement, and they hadn't adapted yet.
If a tank can only hold , what, 40 rounds in it, they won't be stocked with 40 anti-infantry rounds (explosive, incendiary, whatever), they'll be filled with a mix of all sorts of different rounds. Unless they've been re-armed to only hold rounds useful in this kind of fight, once the useful rounds are used, what's next?
Military training doesn't train for head shots, so when it came to actually taking zombies down through use of rifle fire, what happens? You probably pepper them with a hundred rounds each in the chest in order to immobilize them. How many rounds do you think the infantry brought to the battle? Several hundred each, and maybe that much in reserve.
How badly were they outnumbered? A thousand to one? It doesn't quite say, but that is quite possible. The battle for Hope later on shows that they were definitely heavily outnumbered there, and I doubt Yonkers would have been any different
The entire battle was a sham, the military wanted to show off that they could handle the zombies, so they put themselves into a situation against an unconventional foe, while still using conventional equipment, and training, because they were confident that they could handle whatever was thrown at them. They did it for propaganda, they didn't seem to plan everything out very well, they went for what they percieved to be overkill, but in reality, it wasn't. It would have been overkill for a more conventional enemy.
For the first part of the fight, things were going according to plan, the zombies were dying in droves, and the few that made it through the barrage of heavy weapons were easily picked off by the infantry on the front line. But suddenly the artillery and tanks no longer had effective rounds for thinning out the herd, and instead of just a few making it through the barrage, many started making it through. And the standard training would have resulted in potentially hundreds of rounds needed to take down a single zombie, which would quickly cause them to run out of ammunition unless they were very well stocked, which they wouldn't have been based on conventional warfare preparations where firefights are relatively short and do not require sustained fire from a lot of people at once. If they ran out of ammo, they would be overrun, and very quickly. Not to mention the problem that the noise would have attracted the zombies from multiple directions, not just one, so they could be outmaneuvered as well. Even just a few would sow enough confusion and panic to cause things to go to shit if it wasn't expected, and it wasn't. And this was even more prominent because the government was trying to show off some brand new technology which allows everyone to see everything on the battlefield, and when they started seeing things go to shit, everyone would have started panicking. While that would have been an extremely useful tool for conventional warfare, it actually made things worse.
The way it was described, they were fucked from the start. They just didn't know it, because they didn't know their enemy. It's like bringing a knife to a gun fight. They didn't have the right tool to even give them a chance.
I thought the book was quite brilliantly written overall. I haven't seen the movie, but I really doubt it'll live up to the book.
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Impervious sums up why the Battle of Yonkers worked so well for me, it was a great, fairly plausible explanation for how a modern military force could get its ass kicked by slow-moving zombies. I think that the overall zombie genre has just been overly saturated that you expect characters in zombie stories to just *know* stuff intuitively, to formulate strategies based upon experience you may have gleaned elsewhere. In the WWZ book, they react fairly logically based upon *their* assumptions, and it fails them, in fairly believable fashion. As they start to take back the world, the strategies and logistics depicted also make a lot of sense.
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besides a pretty awful title, i agree... the movie was not good
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HAHAHAHH ive heard terrible things about this movie and I was never gonna watch it but your review has made me really excited to see this movie so I can witness all these plot holes.
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On July 16 2013 10:47 Impervious wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 11:05 Jibba wrote:
The book could be a sick HBO series, but not much else. But the book definitely wasn't perfect either. Battle of Yonkers was a whole lot of bullshit. Actually, I thought the battle of Yonkers made a lot of sense overall. + Show Spoiler +Think about it. The modern militiaries are all designed and outfitted to battle conventional enemies. The enemies they were facing were not conventional. This was basically their first major engagement, and they hadn't adapted yet.
If a tank can only hold , what, 40 rounds in it, they won't be stocked with 40 anti-infantry rounds (explosive, incendiary, whatever), they'll be filled with a mix of all sorts of different rounds. Unless they've been re-armed to only hold rounds useful in this kind of fight, once the useful rounds are used, what's next?
Military training doesn't train for head shots, so when it came to actually taking zombies down through use of rifle fire, what happens? You probably pepper them with a hundred rounds each in the chest in order to immobilize them. How many rounds do you think the infantry brought to the battle? Several hundred each, and maybe that much in reserve.
How badly were they outnumbered? A thousand to one? It doesn't quite say, but that is quite possible. The battle for Hope later on shows that they were definitely heavily outnumbered there, and I doubt Yonkers would have been any different
The entire battle was a sham, the military wanted to show off that they could handle the zombies, so they put themselves into a situation against an unconventional foe, while still using conventional equipment, and training, because they were confident that they could handle whatever was thrown at them. They did it for propaganda, they didn't seem to plan everything out very well, they went for what they percieved to be overkill, but in reality, it wasn't. It would have been overkill for a more conventional enemy.
For the first part of the fight, things were going according to plan, the zombies were dying in droves, and the few that made it through the barrage of heavy weapons were easily picked off by the infantry on the front line. But suddenly the artillery and tanks no longer had effective rounds for thinning out the herd, and instead of just a few making it through the barrage, many started making it through. And the standard training would have resulted in potentially hundreds of rounds needed to take down a single zombie, which would quickly cause them to run out of ammunition unless they were very well stocked, which they wouldn't have been based on conventional warfare preparations where firefights are relatively short and do not require sustained fire from a lot of people at once. If they ran out of ammo, they would be overrun, and very quickly. Not to mention the problem that the noise would have attracted the zombies from multiple directions, not just one, so they could be outmaneuvered as well. Even just a few would sow enough confusion and panic to cause things to go to shit if it wasn't expected, and it wasn't. And this was even more prominent because the government was trying to show off some brand new technology which allows everyone to see everything on the battlefield, and when they started seeing things go to shit, everyone would have started panicking. While that would have been an extremely useful tool for conventional warfare, it actually made things worse.
The way it was described, they were fucked from the start. They just didn't know it, because they didn't know their enemy. It's like bringing a knife to a gun fight. They didn't have the right tool to even give them a chance. I thought the book was quite brilliantly written overall. I haven't seen the movie, but I really doubt it'll live up to the book.
the battle of yonkers was stupid stupid stupid
here is a description of the battle of yonkers if the contrived dumbness necessary to make the zombies seem like a real threat was not present:
zombies are napalmed from the air from the start. zombie invasion over.
the battle of yonkers is about as plausible as climbing to the moon on a string
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