EPTOn July 12 2013 03:55 VayneAuthority wrote:
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Wait a minute... what did you claim?
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
Wait a minute... what did you claim? | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
On July 12 2013 03:55 VayneAuthority wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=92#1827 So you're claiming to be Kenpachi I take it? | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
Because I'm going to shoot it down. Here's the full situation with Jampi: 1. He's town and the nuke lands. Yay he's town!!! However, we have an infinite vig or something akin to it, but it's in the hands of a lurky bad player. That's bad news bears. 2. He's town and I shoot the nuke down. Yay he's town!!! But we don't have to deal with him gaining powers. 3. He's scum and the nuke lands. YAY he fake claimed and got shot in the face!!!! 4. He's scum and the nuke lands but makes him awesome. BOOOOH we've just superpowered scum. 5. He's scum and the gets shot down. We don't know he's scum, but he's easily lynchable and don't superpower him. Of the situations where the nuke lands, only 1 is good for us and I don't think Jampi was fake claiming. Of the situations where the nuke doesn't land, all of them are better for us. Pretty simple really. And yes, I'm assuming all nukes are radiation nukes. As a matter of fact: ##defend jampidampi Let's get a lynch contest going. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
Read the first post and think about it after you cross analyze the flips of the first day and the first night. I won't reveal it if I don't have to but some people will understand. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On July 12 2013 03:58 geript wrote: ...................Because I'm going to shoot it down. Here's the full situation with Jampi: 1. He's town and the nuke lands. Yay he's town!!! However, we have an infinite vig or something akin to it, but it's in the hands of a lurky bad player. That's bad news bears. 2. He's town and I shoot the nuke down. Yay he's town!!! But we don't have to deal with him gaining powers. 3. He's scum and the nuke lands. YAY he fake claimed and got shot in the face!!!! 4. He's scum and the nuke lands but makes him awesome. BOOOOH we've just superpowered scum. 5. He's scum and the gets shot down. We don't know he's scum, but he's easily lynchable and don't superpower him. Of the situations where the nuke lands, only 1 is good for us and I don't think Jampi was fake claiming. Of the situations where the nuke doesn't land, all of them are better for us. Pretty simple really. And yes, I'm assuming all nukes are radiation nukes. As a matter of fact: ##defend jampidampi Let's get a lynch contest going. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
I had a town read on you all game until now. Ugh. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On July 12 2013 03:58 FirmTofu wrote: I'm thinking he's claiming Kenpachi, but he could also be leaving room for a war protestor claim. I don't think this changes anything. Xatalos' logic is perfectly sound and this claim does nothing to refute it. ok this is the first post you've made where I think you might actually be scum. He's town but who cares kill him anyway because another player is using a methodical approach instead of scumhunting? What? | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On July 12 2013 04:00 FirmTofu wrote: geript, if you are town, you are playing against your alignment. How can you honestly say that jampidampi is the most likely to be town out of all the immune one claims? I had a town read on you all game until now. Ugh. If you read my post, nothing in it even assumes Jampi is town. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
On July 12 2013 03:58 geript wrote: Because I'm going to shoot it down. Here's the full situation with Jampi: 1. He's town and the nuke lands. Yay he's town!!! However, we have an infinite vig or something akin to it, but it's in the hands of a lurky bad player. That's bad news bears. 2. He's town and I shoot the nuke down. Yay he's town!!! But we don't have to deal with him gaining powers. 3. He's scum and the nuke lands. YAY he fake claimed and got shot in the face!!!! 4. He's scum and the nuke lands but makes him awesome. BOOOOH we've just superpowered scum. 5. He's scum and the gets shot down. We don't know he's scum, but he's easily lynchable and don't superpower him. Of the situations where the nuke lands, only 1 is good for us and I don't think Jampi was fake claiming. Of the situations where the nuke doesn't land, all of them are better for us. Pretty simple really. And yes, I'm assuming all nukes are radiation nukes. As a matter of fact: ##defend jampidampi Let's get a lynch contest going. WHAT THE FUCK GERIPT!!!!??? ARTANIS CLEARLY SAID THAT THERE ARE OTHER TYPES OF NUKES THAN RADIATION NUKES AND THAT A PLAIN NUKE IS NOT A RADIATION NUKE!!! I EVEN SAID IT CLEARLY IN THE THREAD......................... WHY IN THE NAME OF ANYTHING WOULD YOU EVER DO THAT??? | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On July 07 2013 09:48 VayneAuthority wrote: I'll take a raincheck on that then. I have commented on everything I found interesting so far so I guess I should close the thread now as I'm just spamming at this point. raincheck = Rayne Check! This is more or less confirmed by his reaction to rayne's lying: On July 09 2013 11:53 VayneAuthority wrote: I think rayn is town he just messed up. I thought ON might be scum too but wasn't sure enough of it to vote for that those are the 4 im looking at heavily after the voting. All 3 of them gave absolutely zero reason to flip onto ON last second Now, at a time when rayne is under heavy pressure he just nonchallantly dismisses it as "meh. He's town but messed up"... This really tells us that he's confident about it because of the "rain check" And now he tries to claim as kenpachi? Erm.... I feel something is wrong here | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
You assume he becomes "superpowered," which people keep saying, but I don't think that word means what they think it means. Nobody yet has claimed to gain superpowers from being nuked, and that makes no sense. You assume there's an "infinite vig" for no reason. You just...the whole situation is still the same. Now what, we lynch him? And he either flips town or scum. You didn't do anything but kick a can down the road, as far as my initial thoughts play out. Going "we don't know if he's town or scum" is meaningless, because we still don't, and ....... whargl blargl. That's about it. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On July 11 2013 15:04 FirmTofu wrote: PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: Do Not Nuke Alakaslam Or Onegu believes their claims when breadcrumbed does not believe my claim when breadcrumbed, I am conveniently the guy he has been tunneling all game. ERROR, HUGE CONTRADICTION IN MOTIVES Firmtofu is scum. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On July 12 2013 04:00 VayneAuthority wrote: ok this is the first post you've made where I think you might actually be scum. He's town but who cares kill him anyway because another player is using a methodical approach instead of scumhunting? What? I never said you're town. Where are you getting this? Im saying your claim could just as easily come from scum as a fallback option and therefore changes nothing about my read on you. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On July 12 2013 04:03 Z-BosoN wrote: Veyne might be trying to smarty us as scum. I said I wanted to "Save him for later" in d1 because I thought he claimed cop: raincheck = Rayne Check! This is more or less confirmed by his reaction to rayne's lying: Now, at a time when rayne is under heavy pressure he just nonchallantly dismisses it as "meh. He's town but messed up"... This really tells us that he's confident about it because of the "rain check" And now he tries to claim as kenpachi? Erm.... I feel something is wrong here Lol, I've played about 5 or so games with rayne now, we are much better at reading each other. When he's that active and doing crazy shit, he's town. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9673 Posts
Artanis: Yes 2) Is a plain "nuke" the same as a "Radiation nuke"? Artanis: No I even clearly tell of this fact on the thread for everyone to see: On July 09 2013 00:30 Xatalos wrote: Uh oh. I just got confirmation that there are other types of nukes than Radiation nukes - and a plain "nuke" is not the same thing as a "Radiation nuke". That means I have a good chance of dying, but also a good chance of gaining KP. Hmm. Well, I'm pretty sure that Meapak is town too, so maybe it would be better to protect him, Oatsmaster. WHY THE HECK DID YOU DEFEND WITHOUT CONSULTING ME FIRST GERIPT????? ARE YOU SCUM AFTER ALL????? | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On July 12 2013 04:04 austinmcc wrote: geript wtf. The OP says there are many different types of nukes. You're making an assumption that explicitly is contradicted by host text. You assume he becomes "superpowered," which people keep saying, but I don't think that word means what they think it means. Nobody yet has claimed to gain superpowers from being nuked, and that makes no sense. You assume there's an "infinite vig" for no reason. You just...the whole situation is still the same. Now what, we lynch him? And he either flips town or scum. You didn't do anything but kick a can down the road, as far as my initial thoughts play out. Going "we don't know if he's town or scum" is meaningless, because we still don't, and ....... whargl blargl. That's about it. Except now people have to decide who they want to lynch instead of bandwagoning. So we actually get information. Besides, look at Jampi's first post. He's suspicious of Maju. No way in hell Maju fires a nuke at fellow scum unless it's in their benefit (in which case we want it stopped). There's literally no detriment to this play. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On July 12 2013 04:04 VayneAuthority wrote: believes their claims when breadcrumbed does not believe my claim when breadcrumbed, I am conveniently the guy he has been tunneling all game. ERROR, HUGE CONTRADICTION IN MOTIVES Firmtofu is scum. Totally different situations. Alakaslam and Onegu specifically hinted to one specific role. They have multiple posts breadcrumbing their roles. I don't have a strong case on either one of them. I have a strong case on you. There is strong logic that indicates you are scum and/or that your lynch would tell us a lot about other people's roles. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On July 12 2013 04:09 Xatalos wrote: 1) Are there other than Radiation nukes in the game? Artanis: Yes 2) Is a plain "nuke" the same as a "Radiation nuke"? Artanis: No I even clearly tell of this fact on the thread for everyone to see: WHY THE HECK DID YOU DEFEND WITHOUT CONSULTING ME FIRST GERIPT????? ARE YOU SCUM AFTER ALL????? Get off the high horse. No way in hell I make this play as scum. No way in hell I could even be scum this game. Way too active. I made the decision because I knew it wouldn't be popular but it's the right decision. | ||
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