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On June 22 2013 07:16 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2013 07:12 marvellosity wrote:On June 22 2013 07:07 slOosh wrote:
Well this is an awkward timing to come back >.>
Someone ask me a really hard question, I need to gain some feel into the game. You can have 2, can't make promises about their difficulty. 1) What do you make of coag's unrelenting campaign to get me lynched? 2) What do you make of Corazon deciding Oats is definitely scum ("it's clear to me") and then disappearing to pop up with a cajoling post for Ange, and not pushing that read on the rest of the thread? Yes, because repeating the same point to everyone else just because you're not reading is bad. The information is all there. I gave my opinion on Ange, don't get butthurt because I wasn't talking to you directly when I said it. Marv if you're going to start this shit again please read any game that I've ever played with you. You've been dead wrong about me so many times I'm surprised you're silly enough to throw yourself at the wall again.
This is extremely bad, so stop it. The fact that I've been wrong about you in the past does not mean I will always be wrong about you, nor does it mean I should never pursue you in games, and suggesting as much is just absurd.
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On June 22 2013 07:18 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2013 07:16 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 22 2013 07:12 marvellosity wrote:On June 22 2013 07:07 slOosh wrote:
Well this is an awkward timing to come back >.>
Someone ask me a really hard question, I need to gain some feel into the game. You can have 2, can't make promises about their difficulty. 1) What do you make of coag's unrelenting campaign to get me lynched? 2) What do you make of Corazon deciding Oats is definitely scum ("it's clear to me") and then disappearing to pop up with a cajoling post for Ange, and not pushing that read on the rest of the thread? Yes, because repeating the same point to everyone else just because you're not reading is bad. The information is all there. I gave my opinion on Ange, don't get butthurt because I wasn't talking to you directly when I said it. Marv if you're going to start this shit again please read any game that I've ever played with you. You've been dead wrong about me so many times I'm surprised you're silly enough to throw yourself at the wall again. This is extremely bad, so stop it. The fact that I've been wrong about you in the past does not mean I will always be wrong about you, nor does it mean I should never pursue you in games, and suggesting as much is just absurd.
Dude, you tunnel me in every single game we play together. I've played the same way every game and I've flipped town. You keep calling me out for the same shit and I've flipped town. Have you ever read my scum games? My meta is really different.
You're grasping at straws again, bro. Just like Personality (btw I was actually town, don't know if you still believe that), Red Team, and Duel Mafia.
I'm going to say the same thing as I said in all of those games: If you think I'm scum, vote for me.
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And I'll say the same thing as I said in those games, I'll vote for you if I want to vote for you.
For someone who harps on about town atmosphere, you are by far the most negative influence on town atmosphere in this game so far.
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@Cora:
I would not call you scum yet but marv is right. You haven't really touched any subject besides Oats. How do you feel about goodkarma and ShiaoPi?
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On June 22 2013 07:12 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2013 07:07 slOosh wrote:
Well this is an awkward timing to come back >.>
Someone ask me a really hard question, I need to gain some feel into the game. You can have 2, can't make promises about their difficulty. 1) What do you make of coag's unrelenting campaign to get me lynched? 2) What do you make of Corazon deciding Oats is definitely scum ("it's clear to me") and then disappearing to pop up with a cajoling post for Ange, and not pushing that read on the rest of the thread?
1) Alignment neutral - he could easily be making it as either town or scum.
2) It's like, 1 post, so doesn't mean much.
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@marv:
Who would you lynch right now?
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On June 22 2013 07:23 Ange777 wrote:
@Cora:
I would not call you scum yet but marv is right. You haven't really touched any subject besides Oats. How do you feel about goodkarma and ShiaoPi?
I don't think marv said that, I don't think that it's quite true, and I don't see how it's scummy if it was. Agree / disagree?
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Damn slOosh, I was hoping for something wordier. Try this one on then:
3) Do yamato and hapa's interactions today look natural, like two townies interacting? Or how do you view it?
Ange - I dunno. Choosing between lurky players at this stage. I would probably say Obvious:
On June 21 2013 14:37 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 14:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
OO.
I was asking why you thought DP and Hapa was town. Haven't finished my first post of coffee. How am I supposed to be better at figuring out DP as town or scum when his scum play is being lauded in the thread as TL Mafia's gift to scum teams? Hapa looks like he may be experimenting with something early game or he's just reaction fishing in which case he's gotten a reaction out of you. They're drawing attention to themselves, that's all I need to know right now a few hours into the game.I'll tell you exactly what I'm thinking about right now because it's win/win to share it, either mafia will continue to do these things or they will post more in the thread by which we can find the inconsistencies. Mafia has very little reason to actively engage in discussion right now, especially if people are all pointing fingers at each other in the event that everyone posting right now is town. They would probably be content to let town tear itself apart and may not even post. People who are not posting by the end of 24 hours (and I don't mean a handful of one-liners and jokes) climb to the top of my kill-with-fire list. If all of town is talking, this list shortens greatly, and corners the scum into this category. Consider early participation to be town points for day 1. This will also effectively take out the town-aligned anti-town elements in the same vein, if townies aren't sharing their thoughts then they are playing for scum and I'd lynch them just the same to make solving the game easier down the line. (link)Did you read my post in Smurf Mini?
Basically the whole of the bolded, he's stressing the importance of activity, and especially early activity, and yet we've had remarkably little from him. I would expect a town Obvious to be more involved than he has been so far, especially since he's talked about the importance of such involvement.
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On June 22 2013 07:23 Ange777 wrote:
@Cora:
I would not call you scum yet but marv is right. You haven't really touched any subject besides Oats. How do you feel about goodkarma and ShiaoPi?
I think that while goodkarma's first case on Oats was very meta-heavy and not very relevant to this game, I do like the fact that he has gone after ShiaoPi and called him out on some very terrible posts. I think the reason he hasn't done more scumhunting is the fact that he has had to defend himself from Hapa (among others) about his Oats case. I have confidence that he can be an asset to town once he can get going.
ShiaoPi has been very shady over the course of the game so far. His thread presence has been very minimal and his list post of easy targets is (as goodkarma said), very awful.
There's a good chance that ShiaoPi will be on the chopping block when lynch time comes around, so I will have to see if his defense and his scumhunting are satisfactory before I vote for him. My read on him isn't very strong, but it isn't leaning towards town.
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I understood his sentence that way. My bad if it was meant another way although the point still stands that he has not really talked about others besides Oats and that even though this alone does not make him scummy I would like to see some more input from him.
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@marv:
Wouldn't a scum Obvious be more conscious about promoting activity and failing it himself as a scum player?
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@ slOosh
I'm more interested in the content you decide to produce yourself (namely scumhunting) than anything else. Are you all caught up?
@ Marv
Regarding Obvious, I was waiting to post that later tonight (around the 24-hour mark), but yes it's strange how he lectures the town about activity then proceeds to ignore his own advice and preaching.
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If you guys want some other reads:
I'm pretty sure there is scum in either Yamato or Oats. Both haven't done terribly much in the game so far and Oats' play has been really crap. He is flip-flopping and waffling and only following thread sentiment. It's not looking very good for him.
Yamato's recent play has made me feel a bit better about him, but his bad start is still making me cautious on him.
Out of all of the "lurkers", Coag is making me the most nervous. He immediately decided to sheep me and has not contributed anything at all to the thread, no matter how much I've tried to encourage him. He just sits around and demands that Marv be lynched. That's not scumhunting.
As for Marv, I'd say he's scum but stupidity isn't a scum trait. If I ever roll day vig in a future game I will shoot Marv at the beginning of the game. I don't think I've ever played a game with him where he contributes to a good town atmosphere.
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On June 22 2013 07:30 marvellosity wrote:
Damn slOosh, I was hoping for something wordier. Try this one on then:
3) Do yamato and hapa's interactions today look natural, like two townies interacting? Or how do you view it?
I'll try to answer it, but could you first clarify either a string of posts / pages for me to refer to, or perhaps the dialogue that you found strange / scummy / (? I'm not sure). I don't really look at interactions unless we get some flips that point me that way.
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On June 22 2013 07:37 Ange777 wrote:
@marv:
Wouldn't a scum Obvious be more conscious about promoting activity and failing it himself as a scum player?
This would be logical yes, but I don't rely on mafia to carry through on their promises. Also, as far as I remember no-one else has pulled him up on this until I have so far - maybe he hopes it just looks nice at the time, at a time when he *is* actually making a couple of posts.
In Smurf Obvious posted nicely as mafia but as little as possible, whereas when Obvious is town he actively tries to solve the game.
I think I've talked myself into voting him, he's my best lead for now ^^
##Vote: Obvious
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On June 22 2013 07:39 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2013 07:30 marvellosity wrote:
Damn slOosh, I was hoping for something wordier. Try this one on then:
3) Do yamato and hapa's interactions today look natural, like two townies interacting? Or how do you view it?
I'll try to answer it, but could you first clarify either a string of posts / pages for me to refer to, or perhaps the dialogue that you found strange / scummy / (? I'm not sure). I don't really look at interactions unless we get some flips that point me that way.
Bottom of page 24 through page 26. And don't tell me what you usually do when you specifically asked for tricky questions to get your mind in the game, dearest :p
I wasn't making a judgement on their exchange, was just looking to see how you felt about it and why.
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On June 22 2013 07:38 Hapahauli wrote:
@ slOosh
I'm more interested in the content you decide to produce yourself (namely scumhunting) than anything else. Are you all caught up?
More or less. The general things that caught my eye were ObviousOne's entry and ShiaoPi's entry.
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On June 22 2013 07:38 cDgCorazon wrote:
As for Marv, I'd say he's scum but stupidity isn't a scum trait. If I ever roll day vig in a future game I will shoot Marv at the beginning of the game. I don't think I've ever played a game with him where he contributes to a good town atmosphere.
Again, you are the most negative influence on town atmosphere in this game, you've constantly snarked at people with your totally unfounded arrogance.
Further you played with me in Duel where I was shot N0 because I led town to an extraordinarily productive first 24 hours.
Take your disgusting rhetoric elsewhere.
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@ sloOsh
On June 22 2013 07:43 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2013 07:38 Hapahauli wrote:
@ slOosh
I'm more interested in the content you decide to produce yourself (namely scumhunting) than anything else. Are you all caught up?
More or less. The general things that caught my eye were ObviousOne's entry and ShiaoPi's entry.
Can you give me a fuller opinion on Shiao (besides his entry of course)?
@ Cora
You need to take a deep breath, step outside, and come back in an hour or so.
This isn't a game about a grudge with Marv - it's a game about finding mafia. Antagonizing people isn't going to get us anywhere.
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@marv: I just feel like I would be more careful about making any promises as scum because people will remember them and hold me to account for them and the least I would want is stand out badly. Right now I'd put Obvious in the same categorie as the other lurkers.
@Sloosh:
What part of Obvious' entry made you suspicious?
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