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yamato77
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On June 22 2013 04:18 Hapahauli wrote: Yamato, are you reading the same thing I'm reading? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=417453¤tpage=24#479 Selections: Need I continue? Shiao's post WAS, at least in part, based on meta. That much is obvious, and that part is the part that GK takes issue with. | ||
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yamato77
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Yet… Your case is in fact literally based solely on meta… ... reads as more of a persuasive point than an actual statement in his case. I still don't like how he arrived at the conclusion that two perfectly consistent statements by Shiao are inconsistent, but I guess the thought process somewhat makes sense. | ||
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yamato77
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On June 22 2013 04:39 yamato77 wrote: GK's other point about Shiao's other reads being nonexistent rings fairly true. His list post with a bunch of null reads and suspicion on Sloosh/Sylencia as about all we have to go off of, and it's not impressive. I'm sympathetic to that point, but I don't believe it's allignment indicative of Shiao. I was screaming for Shiao's head in Mafia LXII for making posts like that, and ended up pretty wrong. If anything, I think it's something of a town-tell for him when he's being open about multiple players as opposed to forcing "clean" cases on a couple of targets. Well with this, I have no scumreads. Yaaaaaay. Gotta read through again. | ||
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yamato77
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Seems like a nice way to keep my vote warm. | ||
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yamato77
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Hapahauli
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Our internet provider decided to screw us over, we haven't had any internet connection since this morning. I hoped this would be solved by the time I got home but it seems to need some more time. In the mean time, I can only phone post so don't expect any long and elaborated wall of texts from me  | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On June 22 2013 05:26 Ange777 wrote: I'm back. Any questions I should answer right now before I take my time to read the thread? + Show Spoiler + Our internet provider decided to screw us over, we haven't had any internet connection since this morning. I hoped this would be solved by the time I got home but it seems to need some more time. In the mean time, I can only phone post so don't expect any long and elaborated wall of texts from me If you've caught up on the thread, I would like to see some reads from you. A lot of your posts have been good for continuing discussion but haven't really expressed many of your own opinions. Care to do so? | ||
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Ange777
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
@DarthPunk: I have not played any recent games with ObviousOne, so I don't know why he would be scummy for doing the same as Hapa. Do you have any "proof" to show that a townie ObviousOne should not do this? @rayn: I didn't understand whether Oats was seriously referring to his own reasoning as bad. So after he clarified it, I felt like I could understand how he got his reads. Regarding Coag, I really don't like his filter but people seem to simply ignore him (even marv does not take him seriously and he is the target of Coag's lynch campaign) so I prefer to concentrate on people I have played with and whom I might actually read accurately on day 1. | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
Someone ask me a really hard question, I need to gain some feel into the game. | ||
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slOosh
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On June 22 2013 07:07 slOosh wrote: Well this is an awkward timing to come back >.> Someone ask me a really hard question, I need to gain some feel into the game. You can have 2, can't make promises about their difficulty. 1) What do you make of coag's unrelenting campaign to get me lynched? 2) What do you make of Corazon deciding Oats is definitely scum ("it's clear to me") and then disappearing to pop up with a cajoling post for Ange, and not pushing that read on the rest of the thread? | ||
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
Goodkarma's posting feels a bit off. And I don't like the fact that he has not commented ln anyone besides Oats and Shiao even after having been asked for his scumreads himself. I remember DarthPunk being a very vocal player who would actively pursuit his scum targets and push for a lynch of them. Although he participated in the discussion, I feel like he was not very active in his own scum-hunting and scum-lynching. If ObviousOne is so scummy why not pursue it? I am leaning town right now on Shiao. I believe he makes stupid entrance posts as both alignments (can't prove it now though cause I haven't had time to check his past games) and he gives a genuin vibe off when talking to goodkarma explaining himself. I have to admit his scumlist is shitty but I have more town reads than scum reads myself so I can understand that. He will have to post some updated reads soon though in order to not cross the scummy line. | ||
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Coagulation
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On June 22 2013 07:12 marvellosity wrote: You can have 2, can't make promises about their difficulty. 1) What do you make of coag's unrelenting campaign to get me lynched? 2) What do you make of Corazon deciding Oats is definitely scum ("it's clear to me") and then disappearing to pop up with a cajoling post for Ange, and not pushing that read on the rest of the thread? Yes, because repeating the same point to everyone else just because you're not reading is bad. The information is all there. I gave my opinion on Ange, don't get butthurt because I wasn't talking to you directly when I said it. Marv if you're going to start this shit again please read any game that I've ever played with you. You've been dead wrong about me so many times I'm surprised you're silly enough to throw yourself at the wall again. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On June 22 2013 07:14 Coagulation wrote: marv u think im scum ? No idea, dear. Normally doing something like that is pretty scummy (see Dandel in my last game, Les Mafia), but you're coag so you may just be doing it for funsies. *shrug* | ||
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