EPTWho says I don't want to lynch Ace?
Well I do! (now)
I just don't feel it. Ace is useless but it looks more like afk than anything else, the lynch will net us absolutely nothing. I hope (and think) that there are scummier people around.
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
Who says I don't want to lynch Ace? Well I do! (now) I just don't feel it. Ace is useless but it looks more like afk than anything else, the lynch will net us absolutely nothing. I hope (and think) that there are scummier people around. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
I don't think [UoN]Sentinel is overly scummy. I don't really think your case on him is strong. He does seem rather uninvested in the game but he did explain his WaveofShadow vote and he's prodding here and there. I don't think he's overly town but I don't think he's overly scum either. Would not lynch as it is. raynpelikoneet is being little scummier. + Show Spoiler + highlighted with bold On June 05 2013 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's one of my points against stutters. He himself obviously did not even check the mexican standoff fully. And SK is more likely to play as town because they do not have teammates. Other than, why the fuck would you make a meta case on someone who just said he is trying to change his "meta" because in last games of his he has been up for D1 lynch regardless of alignment? Nothing prplhz has done this game is particularly scummy imo. If there is something i have missed, let me know Stutters. I don't think this is valid at all, seems like a really weird defense of me. On June 05 2013 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Prpl; you asked me about jay and wos. I need to hear more from him. I know from some games ive read that he is a possible lynchbait if town, but i don't like him using that as defence. Would lynch if he is not willing to do shit. About wos. I don't like his stance on lurkerlynches early on in the game. Why bring that up? I also don't like his stance on jay. How on earth does what Vivax says about jay being a lynchbait affect wos' opinion? Why does wos just take vivax at face value if he thinks jay is scummy? that is scummy. ##Unvote ##Vote: WoS btw i think vayne is town. He has a weird playstyle but his defence on me is 100% correct. My activity is not alignment indicative. I dont want to lynch stutters any more. I misread some stuff in his prpl case, and his response to my vote was a townie one. He did not get overly defensive. I also think prpl is town. Im gonna look more into other people tonigh. Ace, who do you want to lynch and why? Time to start doing stuff if you are town. As you said, why didn't this make raynpelikoneet suspicious instead of just accepting it as "Holy fuck that's surprisingly good so he's probably town!". His vote is also on WaveofShadow who is a bad lynch. Very lacklustre performance from raynpelikoneet so far. How do you feel about VayneAuthority? | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
I was wrong about WoS being a scum given his more recent posting. He seems to be more focused on finding scum now that D1 is in full swing. So now we have Oats who has little content and sheeps anyone who isn't Ace. And Ace doesn't even look scum. [##Unvote] [##Vote Oatsmaster] | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
THATS MORE THAN NOTHING. how do you feel about stutters? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
On June 06 2013 00:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: OK first off the Vayne vote was a joke. That much should be obvious. I was wrong about WoS being a scum given his more recent posting. He seems to be more focused on finding scum now that D1 is in full swing. So now we have Oats who has little content and sheeps anyone who isn't Ace. And Ace doesn't even look scum. [##Unvote] [##Vote Oatsmaster] Um what? Worst vote 2013? Ace doesnt look like scum is cause you are bad. No matter, we can fix it. I wanna lynch Rayn and stutters and Ace today, not so much zeph now actually. Tell me. How I have 'little content' please  .1st step in getting better, is explaining your vote further than little content. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On June 06 2013 00:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: OK first off the Vayne vote was a joke. That much should be obvious. I was wrong about WoS being a scum given his more recent posting. He seems to be more focused on finding scum now that D1 is in full swing. So now we have Oats who has little content and sheeps anyone who isn't Ace. And Ace doesn't even look scum. [##Unvote] [##Vote Oatsmaster] What are you actually DOING in this game? | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
On June 06 2013 00:15 prplhz wrote: I don't think [UoN]Sentinel is overly scummy. I don't really think your case on him is strong. He does seem rather uninvested in the game but he did explain his WaveofShadow vote and he's prodding here and there. I don't think he's overly town but I don't think he's overly scum either. Would not lynch as it is. raynpelikoneet is being little scummier. + Show Spoiler + highlighted with bold On June 05 2013 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's one of my points against stutters. He himself obviously did not even check the mexican standoff fully. And SK is more likely to play as town because they do not have teammates. Other than, why the fuck would you make a meta case on someone who just said he is trying to change his "meta" because in last games of his he has been up for D1 lynch regardless of alignment? Nothing prplhz has done this game is particularly scummy imo. If there is something i have missed, let me know Stutters. I don't think this is valid at all, seems like a really weird defense of me. On June 05 2013 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Prpl; you asked me about jay and wos. I need to hear more from him. I know from some games ive read that he is a possible lynchbait if town, but i don't like him using that as defence. Would lynch if he is not willing to do shit. About wos. I don't like his stance on lurkerlynches early on in the game. Why bring that up? I also don't like his stance on jay. How on earth does what Vivax says about jay being a lynchbait affect wos' opinion? Why does wos just take vivax at face value if he thinks jay is scummy? that is scummy. ##Unvote ##Vote: WoS btw i think vayne is town. He has a weird playstyle but his defence on me is 100% correct. My activity is not alignment indicative. I dont want to lynch stutters any more. I misread some stuff in his prpl case, and his response to my vote was a townie one. He did not get overly defensive. I also think prpl is town. Im gonna look more into other people tonigh. Ace, who do you want to lynch and why? Time to start doing stuff if you are town. As you said, why didn't this make raynpelikoneet suspicious instead of just accepting it as "Holy fuck that's surprisingly good so he's probably town!". His vote is also on WaveofShadow who is a bad lynch. Very lacklustre performance from raynpelikoneet so far. How do you feel about VayneAuthority? I don't feel like moving on prplhz, your answers are waffly. I never said Sentinel was overly scum, I just think out of the pool we have right now, he is one of the better choices, and I think your evaluation of him is too gracious. The fact that you find rayn a little scummier but choose to spoiler it is disconcerting. Like, who the heck are you suspicious of? Clearly I find a problem with Sentinel but you want to bring up new suspects. Do you think vayne is scum? | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
On June 06 2013 00:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: OK first off the Vayne vote was a joke. That much should be obvious. I was wrong about WoS being a scum given his more recent posting. He seems to be more focused on finding scum now that D1 is in full swing. So now we have Oats who has little content and sheeps anyone who isn't Ace. And Ace doesn't even look scum. [##Unvote] [##Vote Oatsmaster] Did wos die and flip town then? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
given his more recent posting. He seems to be more focused on finding scum now that D1 is in full swing. Um layabout? | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
If you are town you cannot know if you are right or wrong because you do not know the other persons alignment. I am suggesting that sentinel scumslipped. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
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slOosh
3291 Posts
Don't think we should read too much into it. Anyways, people start putting votes down. Early votes = clearer stances. | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
On June 05 2013 13:12 Stutters695 wrote: And Fuba just sniped me. Fuba if you had to dictate a lynch today who and why? Give us something to work with. Sorry, passed out soon after my post. There's been lots of unexpected stuff popping up, distracting me from the game. The most concerning one is taken care of, so I'll be less distracted. In any case, it's unlikely I could have given you an answer. As I said, D1 I typically sheep someone I feel pretty strongly is town, on someone that person has convinced me is scum. I don't really dictate lynches D1. The only time I've actually "dictated" a lynch was at the end of Doctor Who mafia, which surprised even me in its insistence upon my lynch, as well as the fact that I was actually right XD If you'd insisted on an answer, I probably would have said vayne, since he's the one that's been on my mind the most, and I saw him as having the most potential to be scum, despite not having done anything I would call overtly scummy. While he's still on my mind, I have a different lynch target at the moment. SlOosh brought up a good point about rayn that makes me comfortable with a vote on him. His reasoning for having a town read on vayne is pretty scummy. Thinking someone's town because they accurately describe your playstyle doesn't show the level of suspicion that I'd expect from a townie. I mean, it's easier than trying to make a fake case against someone you know is innocent. It's up there with talking exclusively about setup speculation and asking the host questions to appear active. ##Vote: raynpelikoneet I previously found sentinel town (no specific reason, just general feelings after reading his posts), but I'm going to take a closer look at him since slOosh brought him up. Also, we're falling on different sides of the oats debate, which is interesting because we both just played in a scum oats game. I can believe that town oats believes Ace to be a legit lynch, since I have *kind of* the same feelings. Problem being, I don't like playing hypocritically, and if I vote Ace for activity (whether or not I expected more from him), then I might as well vote myself (though that would be playing against my wincon  ). I haven't seen anything that would pick out Ace as scummier than anyone else in the game, so I'm not voting for him today. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On June 06 2013 00:45 slOosh wrote: I don't feel like moving on prplhz, your answers are waffly. I never said Sentinel was overly scum, I just think out of the pool we have right now, he is one of the better choices, and I think your evaluation of him is too gracious. The fact that you find rayn a little scummier but choose to spoiler it is disconcerting. Like, who the heck are you suspicious of? Clearly I find a problem with Sentinel but you want to bring up new suspects. Do you think vayne is scum? My answers aren't waffle, I never said that you said [UoN]Sentinel was overly scum, it's not really disconcerting and you should really think I'm town by now. I did way more already than I did in my last many games town or scum games. Yes, I think I want to lynch VayneAuthority. ##Vote VayneAuthority | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
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Vivax
21690 Posts
On June 06 2013 01:02 mkfuba07 wrote: Sorry, passed out soon after my post. There's been lots of unexpected stuff popping up, distracting me from the game. The most concerning one is taken care of, so I'll be less distracted. If you'd insisted on an answer, I probably would have said vayne, since he's the one that's been on my mind the most, and I saw him as having the most potential to be scum, despite not having done anything I would call overtly scummy. Can you word the reasons you have for thinking Vayne could be scum? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Anyway after looking at Rayn on first glance aside from his activity (which is WAY worse than usual) his style seems to be exactly as I would expect from a town Rayn---throwing his vote all over the place, multiple reads, and what appears to be the beginning of a line of questioning on me before he fucked off. It's the fucking off that presents a problem for me because Rayn ALWAYS has more activity than this early game. His voting and lines of suspicion are also way more erratic than this; here he seems comfortable just to join other people's wagons rather than start his own. Rayn does not play 'safe,' at least not that I've seen. He's not afraid to make himself a target, push his own reads all day and all night, question anyone and everyone, and just in general be a crazy mafakker. Just from the games I've played with him: Les Mafia - Went absolutely nuts D1, suspected people who were in no way mafia at all, engaged town in discussion constantly. Carnival Cruise - Content to have me as a townread when basically no one else did, pushed a lynch of OO for most of that day, good activity. Mafia LXI - Tunneled a read everyone else had as town for a long time and engaged him in discussion (Sharrant) constantly, changes reads frequently but never hesitates to follow a line of questioning as long as is necessary. Take the above with a grain of salt if you will, but this doesn't feel like Rayn's play to me. There are a few hours left in the day yet but if he adds to his filter it's possible that I may change my read of him. Now, based on his posting in this game alone: On June 05 2013 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's one of my points against stutters. He himself obviously did not even check the mexican standoff fully. And SK is more likely to play as town because they do not have teammates. Other than, why the fuck would you make a meta case on someone who just said he is trying to change his "meta" because in last games of his he has been up for D1 lynch regardless of alignment? Nothing prplhz has done this game is particularly scummy imo. If there is something i have missed, let me know Stutters. After voting Stutters because his case on prplhz is 'bad,' this is the first actual reasoning he gives. It's debatable as to whether he came up with it on his own or let Zeph come up with it for him. Not really alignment indicative on its own but when you figure that Rayn is more often than not very involved and will come up with proper reasoning or at least push a read when he votes someone out of the blue, this doesn't look great. On June 05 2013 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Prpl; you asked me about jay and wos. I need to hear more from him. I know from some games ive read that he is a possible lynchbait if town, but i don't like him using that as defence. Would lynch if he is not willing to do shit. About wos. I don't like his stance on lurkerlynches early on in the game. Why bring that up? I also don't like his stance on jay. How on earth does what Vivax says about jay being a lynchbait affect wos' opinion? Why does wos just take vivax at face value if he thinks jay is scummy? that is scummy. ##Unvote ##Vote: WoS btw i think vayne is town. He has a weird playstyle but his defence on me is 100% correct. My activity is not alignment indicative. I dont want to lynch stutters any more. I misread some stuff in his prpl case, and his response to my vote was a townie one. He did not get overly defensive. I also think prpl is town. Im gonna look more into other people tonigh. Ace, who do you want to lynch and why? Time to start doing stuff if you are town. I've already explained why his vote on me is just awful; I was being sarcastic towards believing Vivax at face value. Obviously sarcasm is not easy to detect over the internet which is fine I guess, but again, lack of reasoning here. He also votes me based on the fact that I wanted to lurker lynch despite me having explained it multiple times. He literally asks 'Why bring that up?' and leaves it. Like...why the fuck not?? Especially given that I explained my stance and elaborated on it, something which Rayn does NOT do here. A point for him is the last post where he attempts to question others about his read on me, which is a town Rayn thing to do, but then he disappears, which is decidedly NOT. I am fine with a Rayn lynch today if activity continues as is. ##Vote: Raynpelikoneet | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On June 06 2013 01:18 prplhz wrote: My answers aren't waffle, I never said that you said [UoN]Sentinel was overly scum, it's not really disconcerting and you should really think I'm town by now. I did way more already than I did in my last many games town or scum games. Yes, I think I want to lynch VayneAuthority. ##Vote VayneAuthority lolwut Where did that come from? I'm going to look into Sentinel now. I believe that at least one of the 4 people who voted me originally are scum. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On June 04 2013 11:45 VayneAuthority wrote: Guess you'll just have to find out. Meta can suck it. This isn't a normal setup anyway so I don't see why it matters. Of course I am gong to be playing way differently I think this post is really weird. "Of course I am going to be playing way differently" what the hell? Townies usually play the same and don't make huge changes in their play because they play the best town game they can. That doesn't change from game to game. VayneAuthority seems very concerned about people reading him. His early game drunk-not-drunk trolling also seems very focused on himself and seems nervous. He also prods but doesn't seem like he wants the game to move forward. On June 05 2013 15:29 VayneAuthority wrote: because hes useful if he decides to try later, no point mislynching him when there's a good chance mafia will kill him for us if he's not scum. There, just shutting Oatsmaster down but not trying to move the thread forward. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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