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You voted him without explaining your vote. Something that you're accusing him of. Yes, you eventually gave your weak reasoning. I don't buy how you can be so sure of yourself with such a bad case. I feel like it's an act.
I dont think my case is weak.
I think being sure of a lynch is more townie than scummy.
I dont see why you think its an act just because thats not the way you play
And here's something else you accused him of while doing the same thing: Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 13:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
...defending mkfuba for basically no reason. Scum love to defend people cause it makes them look good. Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 21:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
Jay does his n1 mislynch NA in like every game.
Its not alignment indicative.
Its likely that the most active player day 1 isnt scum so lets not lynch WoS.
So does defending 2 players in the same post make you like twice as likely to be scum?
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I dont want either of these players to die.
Thats my reasoning.
Look.
Ace has not been back. He has not tried to find scum.
I have.
Therefore you should lynch Ace and not me.
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Ill get back to the rest of your post later.
you've played as a better town when you were scum => you are playing a worse town this game => you have to be scum
This is the absolute worst heuristic for reading someone. That means we must lynch like everyone who has good scum games but bad town games.
Dont use this ever.
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Your case on Ace is bad, whenever someone finds your cases bad and they vote you you call them scum, you even complained about omgus when you just did the same thing to me, JJD even pointed out a contradiction on the whole "defense" thing. You had about no contribution during the first 24 hours and now you come into the thread storming and trying to get Ace - arguably the one guy who makes no difference on day 1 but makes a lot day 2 onwards. Ace, over Sentinel, rayn, JJD, fuba, prplhz etc etc etc etc
(disclaimer: above list is not my list of scum reads)
Oats, tell us why should we kill Ace over any other player in the game considering he is not the only one being semi-inactive. Compare him to Sentinel, for instance.
Actually, Sentinel is pretty terrible here too lol.
I dont see what my contribution over the first 24 hours has to do with ANYTHING.
I OMGUS'ed you cause its funny. Also cause you really shouldnt be this bad. By bad, I mean not explaining your vote, and voting me for a bad case that no one has shown why it makes me more likely to be scum as town.
I officially retract the defence thing.
I dont see why Ace gets special treatment and these poor lynchbait dudes dont.
Ace has done jack fucking shit this whole game, and it fucking infuriates me that you guys dont wanna lynch him cause
HURR DURR VET DONT LYNCH DAY 1.
No one thinks Ace is town. Lynch him.
Sheep the sloosh.
Sloosh, sheep me alright? 
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@ WoS
On June 05 2013 11:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
The only person I find particularly scummy atm is jaybrundage however I have been informed that he is 'lynchbait' and as such we should just give him a free pass. Who am I to argue with better players such as Vivax?
You are misrepresenting what I said. No one gets a free pass for anything, lynch bait or not. If you think jay is scum, present your arguments.
You said earlier in very aggressive tone, that everyone is free to make a case whenever they want, why do you think my opinion on jay would be a reason for you to hold your own arguments back now?
What I said was: s0lstice argued for jay being scum cause he found him suspicious for saying that he's lynch bait. I rebutted that it's true.
@ Sentinel
You posted this:
Basically he's saying that by accusing him it stirs up discussion. But why? If attention is on him, as town it's crappy play because it distracts others from finding scum, and as scum he can WIFOM his way to finding a different lynch target.
I don't think perfectly good townplay involves painting yourself red to see who comes out of the woodwork.
This is where Zeph comes in to push WoS's intentions and WoS retorts that it's scummy to lynch him after he's explained his motivations. I find his motivations scummy however, hence I want to lynch him.
You say WoS' motivations are scummy, but I see you saying that you don't think perfectly good townplay involves etc.
That's no explanation of his motivations, that's what you think of his play. Even if it's bad, what's the scum motivation behind it that you see?
Can you comment on the points SlOosh raised in his case against you?
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gentlemen, there's been a bunch of stuff conspiring to keep me away from a computer. Later today I should have time to catch up. I've been following loosely on my phone, so a closer read should be quicker than usual.
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where did everyone disappear to.
Why are people not caring about the day 1 lynch.
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On June 05 2013 22:43 slOosh wrote:
Hey JJD (if it's ok to call you that), could you look into [UoN]Sentinel and rayn?
Here's some thoughts I posted earlier:On June 05 2013 02:35 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Another person I'd like to hear more from is Sentinel. He voted for Vayne simply because he was the only only person he hasn't played w/. I hate crappy reasons like that. It's just as bad as voting random. (also I'm pretty sure I've also never played w/ him but I could be wrong) He's posted some since then and it doesn't seem like his vote on vayne was serious. He voted WoS and I think his reasoning was good. He's off my radar for now.
Rayn hasn't posted much so not all that much to analyze. He also voted WoS for reasons I think are OK.
So nothing really scummy from either of these guys IMO.
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On June 05 2013 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Prpl; you asked me about jay and wos. I need to hear more from him. I know from some games ive read that he is a possible lynchbait if town, but i don't like him using that as defence. Would lynch if he is not willing to do shit. About wos. I don't like his stance on lurkerlynches early on in the game. Why bring that up? I also don't like his stance on jay. How on earth does what Vivax says about jay being a lynchbait affect wos' opinion? Why does wos just take vivax at face value if he thinks jay is scummy? that is scummy.
##Unvote
##Vote: WoS
btw i think vayne is town. He has a weird playstyle but his defence on me is 100% correct. My activity is not alignment indicative.
I dont want to lynch stutters any more. I misread some stuff in his prpl case, and his response to my vote was a townie one. He did not get overly defensive.
I also think prpl is town.
Im gonna look more into other people tonigh. Ace, who do you want to lynch and why? Time to start doing stuff if you are town.
It was sarcasm you idiot.
Seems its the ol' "D1 lynch wagon on wave started by scum that fails" again.
I can't be sure that Zeph is scum since it doesn't fit into the style that scum usually starts their wagons on me, but ill bet there are scum on this wagon atm.
I'm not getting lynched today though so its ok guise. When my kid goies down for a nap I'm going to run a train on some fucking scum so prepare your anuses.
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On June 05 2013 23:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Vivax,
thoughts on Ace?
He has to make clear if and why he intends to stay on the WoS wagon after his initial vote which seems like a pressure vote. Other than that, he discussed strategies related to the setup. Not enough to go to make a read on him.
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Ace is early lynchbait imo (The Game, Ego mini)
I don't want him dead.
Yet.
I was also thinking of looking into Rayn and Sentinel. I'm not sure how likely it is that they're both scum since they're the last two who jumped on me. Again, proper analysis to follow soon when I can.
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He has to make clear if and why he intends to stay on the WoS wagon after his initial vote which seems like a pressure vote. Other than that, he discussed strategies related to the setup. Not enough to go to make a read on him.
Um
So useless vote, and useless talk = not enough.
What is enough may I ask?
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On June 05 2013 23:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ace is early lynchbait imo (The Game, Ego mini)
I don't want him dead.
Yet.
I was also thinking of looking into Rayn and Sentinel. I'm not sure how likely it is that they're both scum since they're the last two who jumped on me. Again, proper analysis to follow soon when I can.
Nah man, this game its much worse.
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@Oatsmaster I really doubt you're getting Ace lynched today no matter how you feel about it. Who'd you prefer that we lynch instead?
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On June 05 2013 23:37 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 23:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ace is early lynchbait imo (The Game, Ego mini)
I don't want him dead.
Yet.
I was also thinking of looking into Rayn and Sentinel. I'm not sure how likely it is that they're both scum since they're the last two who jumped on me. Again, proper analysis to follow soon when I can. Nah man, this game its much worse.
Alright ill have a look as well when I can. Can't see wanting to lynch him above rayn atm though.
We're going to have to do some serious consolidation later if I'm the lurker 'park your vote and fuck off' target though, just sayin'.
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On June 05 2013 23:40 prplhz wrote:
@Oatsmaster I really doubt you're getting Ace lynched today no matter how you feel about it. Who'd you prefer that we lynch instead?
rayn.
Why dont you want to lynch ace?
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welp, I decided to take sloosh's advice. Sentinel isn't looking nearly as terrible as rayn atm, on the activity side of things.
Sentinel has a shitty vote on WoS where he just sheeps me and then only gives a reasoning after people call him out.
rayn has a vote on WoS with convoluted reasoning(ie. not taking things into context).
fuck, town is a mess atm.
On June 05 2013 23:48 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 23:40 prplhz wrote:
@Oatsmaster I really doubt you're getting Ace lynched today no matter how you feel about it. Who'd you prefer that we lynch instead? rayn. Why dont you want to lynch ace?
because Ace's alignment is easier to determine on day 2 onwards and because, if he is town, mafia is likely to kill him either way. The longer he survives as town, the better it is for town(since he is a good player), and if he is surviving too long then it probably means he is mafia.
##unvote
##vote raynpelikoneet
consolidating into a less active target, because I'm less sure of oats being scum. He's being far more agressive/abrasive than his scum game, so I'll give him that.
Oats, stop fucking tunneling ace.
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On June 05 2013 23:51 Zephirdd wrote:
because Ace's alignment is easier to determine on day 2 onwards and because, if he is town, mafia is likely to kill him either way. The longer he survives as town, the better it is for town(since he is a good player), and if he is surviving too long then it probably means he is mafia.
everything in the paragraph is wrong.
So wrong.
Except the alignment thing.
BUT ISNT THAT THE CASE FOR EVERYONE??
HMMM?
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Its only tunneling when he starts to post again zeph.
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On June 05 2013 22:32 slOosh wrote:
prplhz when you can read into raynpelikoneet & [UoN]Sentinel and your thoughts.
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