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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 13:08:07
May 27 2013 14:09 GMT
#1
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Roulette Mini Mafia

Trimmed down OP
(c&p from Dessert)
If you aren't familiar with the rules, Click Here. You will be held accountable.


Artanis[Xp] (filter) is co-hosting! All night actions should be sent to both him and myself.

The coaches for this game are: None. Please consult your brain if you want advice on playing the game.

Important Posts
+ Show Spoiler [Links to Day/Night posts go here] +
Day 1
Night 1
Day 2
Night 2
Day 3
Night 3
Day 4
Night 4
Day 5
Night 5
Day 6
Night 6
Day 7
Endgame





Signups
  1. prplhz, the Gambling VT, lynched Day 5.
  2. Ace, the Gambling Goon, lynched Day 3.
  3. Oatsmaster, the Gambling VT, lynched Day 2.
  4. WaveofShadow, the Gambling VT and Doctor, shot Night 5.
  5. Vivax, the Gambling Goon, lynched Day 6
  6. Zephirdd, the Gambling VT, killed Night 1.
  7. [UoN]Sentinel, the Gambling VT, lynched Day 4.
  8. Stutters695
  9. VayneAuthority
  10. jaybrundage, the Gambling Goon has conceded on Day 7.
  11. JarJarDinks, the Gambling VT, killed Night 2.
  12. s0Lstice kitaman27, the Gambling VT, killed Night 6.
  13. layabout
  14. slOosh, the Gambling VT, killed Night 1.
  15. mkfuba07
  16. raynpelikoneet, the Eduardo Nbobo, lynched Day 1.


Replacements
  • supersoft


The Bench of Shame
  • marvellosity


Obs
+ Show Spoiler +
Obzy, lamperfection, chromatically





Game Specific Rules:

Cycles
This game follows a 48/24 Day/Night cycle. Deadlines will be at 23:00 GMT (+00:00). Votes/actions will be accepted until 22:59 GMT (+00:00), but not after.

Voting!

Voting will be done in this thread.
You may vote for yourself.
You must vote each day
You may vote for a no lynch
Vote By typing in the format ##Vote: Dandel Ion
This game will use a simple plurality lynch. Player with the most votes at the deadline gets lynched.

Clues:
There are no clues.

PMs
PMs are not allowed in this game.

Replacements
Replacements will be done until Day 3. I won't punish by banlist if you go find your own replacement yourself.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-28 10:55:28
May 27 2013 14:09 GMT
#2
Setup


This game uses an (experimental) open setup. The whole setup will be known.

WARNING: This game contains RNG. It is definetly possible that you and your team could be favored (or the opposite) by the RNG gods. This is part of the game. If you can't live with that, this game has a high chance of not being for you. (Nobody ever knows with RNG, though.) RNG.

The mafia win when they outnumber the town, or they reach a scenario when this becomes inevitable. Town wins by eliminating all mafia.

That said, here is how the game works:
At the start of the game, everybody but the Eduardo Nbobo will receive either a VT or Goon role PM. Eduardo Nbobo is the only static role in the game.
At the start of every nightphase, I will roll the holy dice to randomly distribute the roles in the role pool between the gamblers and then notify them. They will then be able to use those powers in the nightphase, after which the powers will be taken away again to be redistributed again on the next nightphase. If such a powerrole-empowered individual gets killed by the mafia, the role is removed from the pool permanently.
Nobody has powers during the day, so lynching will never remove roles from the pool.



Base Roles:

Town:
12x Gambling Vanilla Townie

Mafia:
3x Gambling Goon
1x Eduardo Nbobo

Role Pool:

Doctor
Veteran
Alignment Cop
Roleblocker
Miller / Godfather (depending on the recipient)


Base Role PMs:

Gambling Vanilla Townie:
+ Show Spoiler +
You are the Gambling VT! Today is your lucky day! Just like every day this past week. While it's true that you're rolling in mad dosh, something is missing in your life still. Perhaps... Yes, perhaps you will find power, happiness and/or the keys to your car in this casino! You place your future in Fortuna's hands. But then those evil little bastards appeared. Not only do they constantly pickpocket your chips, they also ambush, shoot and rob people on the toilet! ON THE TOILET! That's a sacred area. This can't stand. Good thing you and some fellow gamblers found a big and sturdy chandelier and some rope... You know what to do!


Gambling Goon:
+ Show Spoiler +
You are the Gambling Goon! Today was not a good day for your gambling. You lost all your money! Just like you did every day this past week. Enraged, you decide to take fate into your own hands. It all started relatively innocent with stealing some chips from other players, but somewhere down the line it escalated, and now you murder, rape and pillage through the Casino, taking what you want from who you want. Further down the line, you suddenly established a Mafia with other similarily unlucky misfits. Huh. No idea how that happened, but you're good at just rolling with things! Kill all the lucky bastards that got the money, so you have free reign to take over the whole Casino and with that even more money! Perhaps even enough to pay your debts but that's doubtful. There's always more casinos, though.


Eduardo Nbobo:
+ Show Spoiler +
You are Eduardo Nbobo! And nobody knows why you're called that. When you were young, you wanted to grow up to be a respectable Rolecop, but things turned south when you aquired a gambling addiction. Not having finished your Rolecop training, you can only tell IF somebody has a role, but not which. But since you basically grew up in the casino (you look really old for your age), you know all the tricks. As such, you can send in the investigation at any point during the night, and you will even recieve the result early! Oh boy! (I suggest doing it with ample time left in the night but what do I know) You're short on money lately, so when the offer of robbing and pillaging the Casino came along, you were more than fine with that.



Nightly Powerrole PMs will only state their nature and look like this:
Doctor
Veteran
et cetera




Q&A


  • Scum factional KP is alive mafia #/2 (rounded up).
  • All players, regardless of role, are notified of roleblocks.
  • Neither the Doctor nor his targets are notified of saved hits.
  • Scum chooses 1 member to carry out the night hit. If they so choose, a member can kill and use a role in the same night. If the mafia member carrying out the night kill is roleblocked, no kill will take place. If he carried out the NK AND used a role both will be stopped.
  • Doublestacking penetrates the Veteran's or the doctor's protection, but not both at the same time. The Veteran power gets removed from the pool when penetrated even on a non-lethal hit. The doctor's safe takes precedence in the action resolution.
  • Miller (or Godfather) are NOT self-aware. They recieve no nightly role PM.
  • The Miller role changes the Cop's checks to a false one. If a Goon recieves the Miller role it is treated as a godfather role. But he will still not be notified of having it.
  • Passive abilities (=being a miller and being a Veteran) are NOT roleblockable.
  • The not-quite-a-Rolecop will only recieve if the target player currently has a power or not. Miller and Veteran also count as powers.
  • Yes, the RNG is true RNG. Weird stuff like somebody getting the same role 3 nights in a row, etc, may well happen. Or not. Who knows.

If you have any other questions, you may PM me, or ask in the thread with bold green text.

Before signing up, make sure you have time to meet the activity requirements.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 27 2013 14:12 GMT
#3
/in
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 27 2013 14:15 GMT
#4
lol /in

already got a decent idea for how to play this
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 14:38:07
May 27 2013 14:15 GMT
#5
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
May 27 2013 14:32 GMT
#6
this seems ridiculously broken in favor of town. Scum are forced to claim their roles and therefore nullify the advantage they give..
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
May 27 2013 14:33 GMT
#7
/in
this actually looks good dan. I'm really impressed. Expected to hate the themed set up.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
May 27 2013 14:34 GMT
#8
wait everyone will claim their roles so won't the edwardnbobbo guy be narrowed down to two people by d2?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
May 27 2013 14:35 GMT
#9
no. he can claim vanilla. Like everyone else.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
May 27 2013 14:36 GMT
#10
everyone will claim their role though because there's no reason for town not to
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
May 27 2013 14:38 GMT
#11
oh go read the setup before you bitch.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 14:43:07
May 27 2013 14:42 GMT
#12
btw 2 protective roles + Town roleblocker could be really brutal for Scum to deal with. Outside of their KP the Rolecop role doesn't really help them here even with the early result reveal.

Maybe RNG every role right after the lynch, and allow Role Cop to send in his/her action during the day so they get result at the start of Night? Would still make it tough to deal with that Town setup but it's something.

random nature of 1 Scum being godfathered vs competent Alignment Cops is also tough

Either way I'm down for this just because it is interesting

On May 27 2013 23:36 kushm4sta wrote:
everyone will claim their role though because there's no reason for town not to


Same thing I was thinking.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 14:44:47
May 27 2013 14:43 GMT
#13
On May 27 2013 23:42 Ace wrote:
btw 2 protective roles + Town roleblocker could be really brutal for Scum to deal with. Outside of their KP the Rolecop role doesn't really help them here even with the early result reveal.

Maybe RNG every role right after the lynch, and allow Role Cop to send in his/her action during the day so they get result at the start of Night? Would still make it tough to deal with that Town setup but it's something.

random nature of 1 Scum being godfathered vs competent Alignment Cops is also tough

Either way I'm down for this just because it is interesting

The roles are rolled right after the lynch.
and the rolecop has the whole night to send it in and will recieve the result asap

should be enough time, unless he's afk.


the rolecop can just claim having received a role instead of a goon. no reason to be too exact about that between the scums.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 27 2013 14:47 GMT
#14
Well after modding Carnival Cruise I'm sure you know why I don't trust people to send in Night Actions

Looks Town favored but I guess Scum will have to work a bit harder with claims and day play to avoid the random worst case scenario. Ah well lets get this show on the road!
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 27 2013 14:56 GMT
#15
can't eduardo just claim something that one of his teammates got?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 27 2013 14:57 GMT
#16
finally a mini.
/in
No gg, No skill.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
May 27 2013 15:04 GMT
#17
On May 27 2013 23:56 prplhz wrote:
can't eduardo just claim something that one of his teammates got?

sure he can
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 27 2013 15:07 GMT
#18
16 player games arent mini's.


False representation.
No gg, No skill.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 15:11:00
May 27 2013 15:08 GMT
#19
On May 27 2013 23:56 prplhz wrote:
can't eduardo just claim something that one of his teammates got?


yes, but it isn't about 1 night of claims itself. Since the roles are always "live" the Town can collectively vote on someone to be investigated in the case of an Alignment Cop.

The Town will all claim the next day with result of their actions. Say a NK is missing - the doctor and Vet don't care about not being informed. They just speak up on what happened. In the Doc's case it most likely confirms a Town player (barring Scum taking a chance to shoot one of their own members). Since the roles get randomized again next night they don't need to fear dying and depriving the Town of a Power Role

Town does this at the start of every day. Even with Scum getting the power roles the Town isn't concerned with their claims. All they need is a decent pool of suspects before Scum KP takes out the thinkers and investigate down the list and take chances with the RNG due to higher numbers.

ETA: Just to be thorough that "live" means barring getting hit by Scum KP. There are other interesting scenarios that exist but I'd rather not get into all that theorycrafting. This is going to be fun either way.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
May 27 2013 15:08 GMT
#20
16 player is mini. And always will be.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
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