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On June 05 2013 21:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:##Vote Oatsmaster His gung-ho Ace-is-def-scum-guys push seems so contrived. I can't imagine he can actually act so cocksure, especially when his reasons are so weak. Here's his reasoning (which btw came 12 hours after his vote): Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 13:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Lets lynch Ace guys.
His contributions have been setup speculation, and a random vote on WoS, and defending mkfuba for basically no reason. Scum love to defend people cause it makes them look good.
He never explained his vote and he doesnt seem intent to.
WAGON OF JUSTICE! I don't want to really defend Ace since he isn't exactly playing pro-town, but these reasons are terrible: - "His contributions have been setup speculation" - Ace just made one post saying we should claim and report results. Oats was the one prodding him further which forced Ace to talk more about it - "random vote on WoS." - OK, I'll agree w/ this one. Random votes are lame. I'd like to see him explain if he actually has a reason for voting WoS or if it was truly random. - "defending mkfuba for basically no reason." Here's the post he's talking about: Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 02:04 Ace wrote:On June 05 2013 01:57 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 05 2013 01:56 Ace wrote:oh, well of course  I was thinking someone would be like "that claim is bullshit!" then we have to force people to read the OP. Again. lol, how do you feel about mkfuba strolling into the thread and just choosing something random to quote then peacing out? I like to to call that illusionary participation unless thats common for him or something slightly bad but nothing damning at the moment. He could easily have just left the forum after asking. His "Scum love to defend people cause it makes them look good." is dumb. How is that post supposed to make Ace look good? Ace was specifically asked what he thought and he answered. How can that possibly be seen as scummy? Not to mention the fact that there's plenty of people posting "defences" for other people
Whoop
OMGUS from a newbie.
Wonderful.
Explain why making a 'bad' case on Ace makes me scum?
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SHUTTUP there's no way i would vote for a guy before i finished reading his filter and realized he took his case back.
Cases like that are still characteristic of prphlz's scum play.
But it look's like i willl need to move my vote again and think there is a good chance that [UoN]Sentinel or raynpelikoneet is mafia jumping onto WoS to get the wagon rolling.
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On June 05 2013 22:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Wait did you just accuse him of being scum and then defend him in the same post
No but that is a point i was tempted to make but realized it was bad so i wanted to say that before somebody else did.
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##unvote
##vote Oatsmaster
Idk what you're doing, but you've shown a better town play as scum. This is ridiculous.
Besides, wos has been active enough and posting enough, and the three other votes on him suck. Its a bad wagon.
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- "His contributions have been setup speculation" - Ace just made one post saying we should claim and report results. Oats was the one prodding him further which forced Ace to talk more about it
How in the world does this make him exempt from trying to play the game, which is to find and kill scum?
His "Scum love to defend people cause it makes them look good." is dumb. How is that post supposed to make Ace look good? Ace was specifically asked what he thought and he answered. How can that possibly be seen as scummy? Not to mention the fact that there's plenty of people posting "defences" for other people
meh ok that post is null.
So wanna lynch ace?
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On June 05 2013 22:18 Zephirdd wrote:
##unvote
##vote Oatsmaster
Idk what you're doing, but you've shown a better town play as scum. This is ridiculous.
Besides, wos has been active enough and posting enough, and the three other votes on him suck. Its a bad wagon.
oh god explain please
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ok scumteam
Ace/Zeph/Stutters
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On June 05 2013 18:34 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 15:29 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 05 2013 15:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
WHY NOT FUCKING ACE GUYS.
SERIOUSLY. because hes useful if he decides to try later, no point mislynching him when there's a good chance mafia will kill him for us if he's not scum. Mafia wouldn't kill him just because he's a vet. There's actual townies to shoot. What the hell kind of reasoning is this.
The same reasoning of "kill marv if he is alive by day 3"
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On June 05 2013 22:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
ok scumteam
Ace/Zeph/Stutters
Yes. Totally. You broke the fucking game, gratz.
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On June 05 2013 22:22 Zephirdd wrote:Yes. Totally. You broke the fucking game, gratz.
no problem mate.
Why are you not explaining your scumread on me though?
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Oats, Ace is around null level right now.
He voted WoS and sort of soft defended mkfuba, which town Ace could have done. There's stuff he hasn't done, but from what I know of Ace's recent play (I think he explains in Ego mafia), he takes backseat regardless of alignment. I think there are a couple other players who have red flags, which would make them better lynches for today. Here are what I think are red flags from the past two pages:
On June 05 2013 18:34 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 15:29 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 05 2013 15:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
WHY NOT FUCKING ACE GUYS.
SERIOUSLY. because hes useful if he decides to try later, no point mislynching him when there's a good chance mafia will kill him for us if he's not scum. Mafia wouldn't kill him just because he's a vet. There's actual townies to shoot. What the hell kind of reasoning is this.
This doesn't even make sense. Scum won't shoot Ace because there are townies to be shot?
Vayne's reasoning is pretty clear. Scum shoot good players -> Ace is good player -> if Ace is town -> scum shoots Ace.
Shutting vayne down but with no other purpose than to shut him down.
On June 05 2013 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
btw i think vayne is town. He has a weird playstyle but his defence on me is 100% correct. My activity is not alignment indicative.
Scum could equally have a 100% correct assessment of playstyle. Poor reason to call someone town.
People please comment on [UoN]Sentinel.
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Also agree with Zeph that the votes currently on WoS suck. I like Oats though, as he is surprisingly easy to understand.
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prplhz when you can read into raynpelikoneet & [UoN]Sentinel and your thoughts.
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The actual townies to be shot I believe is referring to like people who actually play the game and look like town, not VETS cause they are VETS.
Its still totally null. And Vayne does bring up a point that I thought about when I was new.
I could lynch both Sent and rayn though
i like vayne and WoS, dont attack them man.
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On June 05 2013 22:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Whoop
OMGUS from a newbie.
Wonderful. Huh?
Explain why making a 'bad' case on Ace makes me scum? You voted him without explaining your vote. Something that you're accusing him of. Yes, you eventually gave your weak reasoning. I don't buy how you can be so sure of yourself with such a bad case. I feel like it's an act.
And here's something else you accused him of while doing the same thing:On June 05 2013 13:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
...defending mkfuba for basically no reason. Scum love to defend people cause it makes them look good. On June 05 2013 21:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
Jay does his n1 mislynch NA in like every game.
Its not alignment indicative.
Its likely that the most active player day 1 isnt scum so lets not lynch WoS.
So does defending 2 players in the same post make you like twice as likely to be scum?
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On June 05 2013 22:22 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 18:34 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On June 05 2013 15:29 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 05 2013 15:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
WHY NOT FUCKING ACE GUYS.
SERIOUSLY. because hes useful if he decides to try later, no point mislynching him when there's a good chance mafia will kill him for us if he's not scum. Mafia wouldn't kill him just because he's a vet. There's actual townies to shoot. What the hell kind of reasoning is this. The same reasoning of "kill marv if he is alive by day 3"
except that isnt actually accurate anymore.
And you should stop posting useless and short posts.
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On June 05 2013 22:34 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 22:22 Zephirdd wrote:On June 05 2013 18:34 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On June 05 2013 15:29 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 05 2013 15:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
WHY NOT FUCKING ACE GUYS.
SERIOUSLY. because hes useful if he decides to try later, no point mislynching him when there's a good chance mafia will kill him for us if he's not scum. Mafia wouldn't kill him just because he's a vet. There's actual townies to shoot. What the hell kind of reasoning is this. The same reasoning of "kill marv if he is alive by day 3" except that isnt actually accurate anymore. And you should stop posting useless and short posts.
LOL
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On June 05 2013 22:34 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2013 22:22 Zephirdd wrote:On June 05 2013 18:34 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On June 05 2013 15:29 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 05 2013 15:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
WHY NOT FUCKING ACE GUYS.
SERIOUSLY. because hes useful if he decides to try later, no point mislynching him when there's a good chance mafia will kill him for us if he's not scum. Mafia wouldn't kill him just because he's a vet. There's actual townies to shoot. What the hell kind of reasoning is this. The same reasoning of "kill marv if he is alive by day 3" except that isnt actually accurate anymore. And you should stop posting useless and short posts.
LOL.
I just woke up and post the above stuff from my cellphone.
But I find it hard to process that you can't understand this sentence:
you've shown a better town play as scum.
you've played as a better town when you were scum => you are playing a worse town this game => you have to be scum
Your case on Ace is bad, whenever someone finds your cases bad and they vote you you call them scum, you even complained about omgus when you just did the same thing to me, JJD even pointed out a contradiction on the whole "defense" thing. You had about no contribution during the first 24 hours and now you come into the thread storming and trying to get Ace - arguably the one guy who makes no difference on day 1 but makes a lot day 2 onwards. Ace, over Sentinel, rayn, JJD, fuba, prplhz etc etc etc etc
(disclaimer: above list is not my list of scum reads)
Oats, tell us why should we kill Ace over any other player in the game considering he is not the only one being semi-inactive. Compare him to Sentinel, for instance.
Actually, Sentinel is pretty terrible here too lol.
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Hey JJD (if it's ok to call you that), could you look into [UoN]Sentinel and rayn?
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Zeph to be fair that sentence was ambiguous for me (I guessed what you just explained).
The only thing you could call a problem with Oats' play is his preference to lynch Ace, which I would argue isn't an issue at all. Both town and scum can make bad cases, omgus etc.
Can we center votes and discussion around [UoN]Sentinel and raynpelikoneet?
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EPT
