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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 05 2013 05:34 GMT
#321
I'd say both Rayne and Vayne fall into a similar synopsis as your one for ace
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
June 05 2013 05:36 GMT
#322
Just replace setup talk with various other talk of no use with vayne and remove it completely for rayn
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 05 2013 05:49 GMT
#323
I would lynch rayn today too,
not so much vayne.
That doesnt really seem alignment indicative for him.
No gg, No skill.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 05 2013 06:10 GMT
#324
I dont see anything on rayn, he doesn't really have a meta from what I have seen. He plays differently from game to game and his activity is based off the time he actually has not his alignment. Neither of us are good lynches. I am leaning towards mkfuba or WoS not sure yet
I come in for the scraps
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 05 2013 06:27 GMT
#325
WHY NOT FUCKING ACE GUYS.

SERIOUSLY.
No gg, No skill.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 05 2013 06:29 GMT
#326
On June 05 2013 15:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
WHY NOT FUCKING ACE GUYS.

SERIOUSLY.


because hes useful if he decides to try later, no point mislynching him when there's a good chance mafia will kill him for us if he's not scum.
I come in for the scraps
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 05 2013 06:44 GMT
#327
On June 05 2013 15:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 15:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
WHY NOT FUCKING ACE GUYS.

SERIOUSLY.


because hes useful if he decides to try later, no point mislynching him when there's a good chance mafia will kill him for us if he's not scum.

fucking bad attitude.


No gg, No skill.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 05 2013 09:34 GMT
#328
On June 05 2013 15:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 15:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
WHY NOT FUCKING ACE GUYS.

SERIOUSLY.


because hes useful if he decides to try later, no point mislynching him when there's a good chance mafia will kill him for us if he's not scum.


Mafia wouldn't kill him just because he's a vet. There's actual townies to shoot. What the hell kind of reasoning is this.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 05 2013 09:46 GMT
#329
Ace isnt actually that good at town.
lets kill him today!
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 05 2013 10:33 GMT
#330
Prpl; you asked me about jay and wos. I need to hear more from him. I know from some games ive read that he is a possible lynchbait if town, but i don't like him using that as defence. Would lynch if he is not willing to do shit. About wos. I don't like his stance on lurkerlynches early on in the game. Why bring that up? I also don't like his stance on jay. How on earth does what Vivax says about jay being a lynchbait affect wos' opinion? Why does wos just take vivax at face value if he thinks jay is scummy? that is scummy.

##Unvote
##Vote: WoS


btw i think vayne is town. He has a weird playstyle but his defence on me is 100% correct. My activity is not alignment indicative.

I dont want to lynch stutters any more. I misread some stuff in his prpl case, and his response to my vote was a townie one. He did not get overly defensive.

I also think prpl is town.

Im gonna look more into other people tonigh. Ace, who do you want to lynch and why? Time to start doing stuff if you are town.
table for two on a tv tray
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
June 05 2013 10:42 GMT
#331
Vote Count - Roughly 12 hours remaining:

VayneAuthority (0): [UoN]Sentinel
Ace (1): Zephirdd, Oatsmaster
JarJarDrinks (0): Zephirdd
Zephirdd (0): prplhz, Oatsmaster
jaybrundage (2): layabout, s0Lstice
WaveOfShadow (4): Ace, Zephirdd*, [UoN]Sentinel, raynpelikoneet
Oatsmaster (0): Stutters695
prplhz (0): Oatsmaster, Stutters
Stutters695 (0): raynpelikoneet
s0Lstice (1): jaybrundage
[UoN]Sentinel (1): slOosh

Not voted (7): WaveofShadow, Vivax, VayneAuthority, JarJarDinks, mkfuba07, prplhz, Stutters


WaveofShadow is currently set to be lynched!

*retcon'd

A backwards poet writes inverse.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 05 2013 12:04 GMT
#332
Currently the most active player in this dead game is set to be lynched. This is not good. Not good at all.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 05 2013 12:21 GMT
#333
Thats why you vote for Ace.
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 05 2013 12:26 GMT
#334
Layabout you want to lynch jay for his attitude? Is there anything else? Do you think the most active player atm (WoS) cannot be mafia? The point is to lynch scum, not people you dont like.

What do you think of what i brought up against WoS?

Also what do you think about Ace/zeph atm?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 05 2013 12:33 GMT
#335
Jay does his n1 mislynch NA in like every game.
Its not alignment indicative.
Its likely that the most active player day 1 isnt scum so lets not lynch WoS.
No gg, No skill.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 05 2013 12:35 GMT
#336
What do you all think of Oats? He's been tunneling Ace on the following evidence:

Ace tooots scum
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JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
June 05 2013 12:39 GMT
#337
##Vote Oatsmaster

His gung-ho Ace-is-def-scum-guys push seems so contrived. I can't imagine he can actually act so cocksure, especially when his reasons are so weak. Here's his reasoning (which btw came 12 hours after his vote):
On June 05 2013 13:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Lets lynch Ace guys.
His contributions have been setup speculation, and a random vote on WoS, and defending mkfuba for basically no reason. Scum love to defend people cause it makes them look good.
He never explained his vote and he doesnt seem intent to.
WAGON OF JUSTICE!

I don't want to really defend Ace since he isn't exactly playing pro-town, but these reasons are terrible:

- "His contributions have been setup speculation" - Ace just made one post saying we should claim and report results. Oats was the one prodding him further which forced Ace to talk more about it

- "random vote on WoS." - OK, I'll agree w/ this one. Random votes are lame. I'd like to see him explain if he actually has a reason for voting WoS or if it was truly random.

- "defending mkfuba for basically no reason." Here's the post he's talking about:
On June 05 2013 02:04 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 01:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 05 2013 01:56 Ace wrote:
oh, well of course

I was thinking someone would be like "that claim is bullshit!" then we have to force people to read the OP. Again.


lol, how do you feel about mkfuba strolling into the thread and just choosing something random to quote then peacing out?

I like to to call that illusionary participation unless thats common for him or something


slightly bad but nothing damning at the moment. He could easily have just left the forum after asking.
His "Scum love to defend people cause it makes them look good." is dumb. How is that post supposed to make Ace look good? Ace was specifically asked what he thought and he answered. How can that possibly be seen as scummy? Not to mention the fact that there's plenty of people posting "defences" for other people
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 05 2013 12:51 GMT
#338
On June 05 2013 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Layabout you want to lynch jay for his attitude? Is there anything else? Do you think the most active player atm (WoS) cannot be mafia? The point is to lynch scum, not people you dont like.

What do you think of what i brought up against WoS?

Also what do you think about Ace/zeph atm?

jay has gone from empty posts to omgus. That isn't how i would expect a town play to play, especially when the pressure jay was under was so low. He should not be so worried about 2 votes and the everyone that votes for me is scum argument is crappy.

WaveOfShadow
In every game i can recall the hypersupermegaactive players are always town, even in games where somebody like bh is scum and posts a ton the most active players are still town. If scum is the most active player in the thread and they aren't just spamming then then don't deserve to get lynched. Our problem right now is that the activity levels are too low, killing active players only makes this worse.

And since the activity has been low since the start WoS is correct to be concerned about it so i see no harm in him say he might want to lynch a lurker. If there is anything scummy about it it's that he tentatively puts the idea forward possibly because he is worried about people jumping on him for LaL.

Lynching Ace is okay since he hasn't done anything, but his posts have reflected my own feeling about the game and there are other who have also done nothing. He hasn't done anything to make me want to keep him alive but at the same time i see no reason to choose ace specifically.

I think zephird's push is bad but it is not inherently scummy, his response to pressure was townlike and towards the beginning he was trying to get the thread moving in the right direction which was quite needed.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 05 2013 13:02 GMT
#339
On June 04 2013 19:25 prplhz wrote:
hey i'm trying to post more because usually i get brought up as a lurker lynch on d1. that didn't use to bother me but i decided before this game that maybe i should try not to get brought up as a lynch d1 in every single game i play. also people complain at me for not having clear scum reads on d1 so i'm just going to pretend that my very tentative scum reads are MUST LYNCH WITH INTENSITY scum reads instead.

Alright.

Right now my Zephirdd is my MUST LYNCH WITH INTENSITY scum read. His early posting seems very careful such as

"Ace said pre-game how this benefits town, so it should be a nobrainer right?" It's like he thinks this is a good plan but he'd rather hear what someone else thinks before he makes a decision on it. I mean "nobrainer" and "right?" are just two words that shouldn't be in the same sentence unless you're kinda split on where you stand.

In this post he gives someone the advice to go look at Smurf Mini Mafia, a game which couldn't have less to do with this game. He wants him to just avoid meta analysis which seems like a scum move to me since meta analysis can be really good.

Also this post seems really off. Scum care a lot about how they appear in the thread and this post looks like he wants to appear like a guy who just votes for a strong player with no fear or hesitation (ostensibly a townie trait). He doesn't do this as town though, looked through his last three games (all town games) and in all games those games there wasn't a single vote like this. He always has reasonable for his votes.

So yea, I feel that right now Zephirdd is the right way to go. A combination of posting style and the weird Ace vote.

##Vote Zephirdd

How 'bout it fellas?

Look at how nice this case looks. At a glance you might think that prplhz has made some reasonable point. But read it through again carefully. In fact prplhz just take a few small things that zephird has done makes wild inferences and to create scummyness where there is none.He deliberately fails to add context.

##unvote
##voteprplhz

+ Show Spoiler +
You may note that prplhz is quite not commital but at that early stage in the game i consider that sensible and do not count it against him
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 05 2013 13:03 GMT
#340
Wait did you just accuse him of being scum and then defend him in the same post
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