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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 05 2013 16:33 GMT
#401
This one
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
June 05 2013 16:34 GMT
#402
On June 06 2013 01:28 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 11:45 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 04 2013 11:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:
sup y'all. I'll go ahead and agree w/ the claim all roles during the day plan.


@vayne - do u have any response to these?

On June 04 2013 09:25 s0Lstice wrote:
He's from mafiascum if you remember. To those that haven't played with vayne, he doesn't dive filters as his bread and butter as is typical around here. He is more into tapping the current flow of the thread and NK analysis.
On June 04 2013 09:26 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 04 2013 09:20 Stutters695 wrote:
On June 04 2013 08:59 s0Lstice wrote:
I think he is saying he doesn't do much on day 1 and wants to see a flip before he puts work in?

Yeah that makes sense, same thing he did in les although he was scum there. I need to check if he does that every game.

He does (or at least says he does) in pretty much every game yeah.
Alignment null.
Vayne I hope you ARE scum this game so I can have the pleasure of fitting your head in a noose.

Are you still planning on playing the same way you have in your previous games? Especially in regards to day 1?


Guess you'll just have to find out. Meta can suck it. This isn't a normal setup anyway so I don't see why it matters. Of course I am gong to be playing way differently

I think this post is really weird. "Of course I am going to be playing way differently" what the hell? Townies usually play the same and don't make huge changes in their play because they play the best town game they can. That doesn't change from game to game. VayneAuthority seems very concerned about people reading him.

His early game drunk-not-drunk trolling also seems very focused on himself and seems nervous.

He also prods but doesn't seem like he wants the game to move forward.

Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 15:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 05 2013 15:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
WHY NOT FUCKING ACE GUYS.

SERIOUSLY.


because hes useful if he decides to try later, no point mislynching him when there's a good chance mafia will kill him for us if he's not scum.

There, just shutting Oatsmaster down but not trying to move the thread forward.

The only thing I agree with here is the 'not trying to move the thread forward.' From what I've seen from Vayne he starts to get going later on. I agree with his point on Ace, and I can understand why he says he'll be playing differently (he has come under a lot of scrutiny since migrating to TL from MS or epicmafia I forget which because his playstyle is very different from what we're used to here, ie proposing no-lynches on D1). The one thing I don't quite get is the fact that he says he'll be playing differently but aside from not saying things that get him laughed at on TL, he hasn't done anything different at all from his usual play.

I don't want to lynch him today but right now I'd say the most damning thing about his play is the fact that he just doesn't give a shit about town right now.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 05 2013 16:37 GMT
#403
Okay. so you are voting me for my activity. Fine, whatever, there is nothing i can do about it for 1,5 weeks. I have no laptop and im still working for 12h/day.

Maybe i should not join games before that then.

Oats if Ace does post more fluff i'm certainly in killing him. There is no reason to not contribute anything. I havn't had time to look at sentinel yet. Sloosh wanting to let the discussion to stay only at me/sent is scummy, not going to explain why, because everyone should see it.

Idk wtf layabout is doing, making a case on prpl and then debunking points from it in the same post.. Wtf.

Im going to stand behind my read on vayne for the reasons i have stated, as he seems to be the only one to realize that is true.

WoS if your comment about Vivax was sarcasm, why is jay scum? And why is your vote on someone else? And why are you not trying to expand the read at all? I know, because you are scum.
table for two on a tv tray
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
June 05 2013 16:39 GMT
#404
On June 06 2013 01:22 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 01:02 mkfuba07 wrote:
On June 05 2013 13:12 Stutters695 wrote:
And Fuba just sniped me. Fuba if you had to dictate a lynch today who and why? Give us something to work with.


Sorry, passed out soon after my post. There's been lots of unexpected stuff popping up, distracting me from the game. The most concerning one is taken care of, so I'll be less distracted.
If you'd insisted on an answer, I probably would have said vayne, since he's the one that's been on my mind the most, and I saw him as having the most potential to be scum, despite not having done anything I would call overtly scummy.


Can you word the reasons you have for thinking Vayne could be scum?

There were a few things that made me kind of suspicious of him in the first place, and I've spent the most time kind of pondering over him. It might be a bit tunnel-y of me. In any case, I found it strange that he pointed out my one question of him, followed by me disappearing for a while, but not bringing up prplhz's "Why 31?". I felt mine, at least, had legitimate reason to be asked, while prplhz's was clearly (in my eyes) just for the reaction or to be random or some shit. I also found his thorough answer to prplhz's question potentially suspicious (which I suppose makes it suspicious...) because it *was* so thorough, when the question was pretty much nonsense. That being said, if everything he said in that answer was true, it would have been easy for vayne to recall in any case. This rendered it pretty much null.

Then there's his response to my question, itself, which just seemed to come from a different mindset than my own. As I said before, I'm unsure of whether or not it makes him scummy or just, you know, a different kind of player than me, so that's kind of where the suspicion ended on that train of thought. Again, ended pretty null (at least for the moment).

Then there's just his general attitude, I guess you could call it. He pretty much states outright that he's not gonna do much D1. And then later points out how I'm not doing much, and though he hasn't voted yet, certainly seems geared up to vote for me by the end of the day (though maybe not, since the wagon didn't take off?). In any case, it's the kind of hypocritical "voting" that I just don't like doing as town. I see it as "he's doing what I'm doing, so he's scum". That being said, I can see townies voting in such a way. Some people might just not have my sense of voting "honor". Anyway, I haven't been able to convince myself that he's probably scum, so I haven't voted him.

I basically see a lot of thing that *could* be scummy, but have an equal chance of being town. It's the quantity of them that keeps me suspicious, as well as the fact that he hasn't really done anything to convince me he's town.
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 05 2013 16:43 GMT
#405
Im not feeling this rayn lynch anymore.

Ace guys.
Ace.
No gg, No skill.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
June 05 2013 16:43 GMT
#406
On June 06 2013 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay. so you are voting me for my activity. Fine, whatever, there is nothing i can do about it for 1,5 weeks. I have no laptop and im still working for 12h/day.

Maybe i should not join games before that then.

Oats if Ace does post more fluff i'm certainly in killing him. There is no reason to not contribute anything. I havn't had time to look at sentinel yet. Sloosh wanting to let the discussion to stay only at me/sent is scummy, not going to explain why, because everyone should see it.

Idk wtf layabout is doing, making a case on prpl and then debunking points from it in the same post.. Wtf.

Im going to stand behind my read on vayne for the reasons i have stated, as he seems to be the only one to realize that is true.

WoS if your comment about Vivax was sarcasm, why is jay scum? And why is your vote on someone else? And why are you not trying to expand the read at all? I know, because you are scum.

Because I no longer think Jay is scum?
His posting has improved a great deal since the beginning of the game.
Got anything else to add?

Rayn I find it odd that you immediately start posting after I make a case on you based on your activity, despite the fact that you're extremely busy and can't post often. Why wait until now?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 05 2013 16:47 GMT
#407
On June 06 2013 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay. so you are voting me for my activity. Fine, whatever, there is nothing i can do about it for 1,5 weeks. I have no laptop and im still working for 12h/day.

Maybe i should not join games before that then.

Oats if Ace does post more fluff i'm certainly in killing him. There is no reason to not contribute anything. I havn't had time to look at sentinel yet. Sloosh wanting to let the discussion to stay only at me/sent is scummy, not going to explain why, because everyone should see it.

Idk wtf layabout is doing, making a case on prpl and then debunking points from it in the same post.. Wtf.

Im going to stand behind my read on vayne for the reasons i have stated, as he seems to be the only one to realize that is true.

WoS if your comment about Vivax was sarcasm, why is jay scum? And why is your vote on someone else? And why are you not trying to expand the read at all? I know, because you are scum.

I responded to your questions. I suggested we lynch you. You lie about me to discredit me.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21979 Posts
June 05 2013 16:53 GMT
#408
@ Rayn

If you're so sure about WoS being scum, what are you trying to achieve by claiming you want to kill ace and writing that bit about layabout?
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 05 2013 16:57 GMT
#409
On June 06 2013 01:53 Vivax wrote:
@ Rayn

If you're so sure about WoS being scum, what are you trying to achieve by claiming you want to kill ace and writing that bit about layabout?

Vivax i reckon at least one of the people on the WoS wagon is scum. What do you think?
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 17:04:01
June 05 2013 17:02 GMT
#410
Vote Count - Roughly 6 hours remaining:

VayneAuthority (1): [UoN]Sentinel, prplhz
Ace (1): Zephirdd, Oatsmaster
JarJarDrinks (0): Zephirdd
Zephirdd (0): prplhz, Oatsmaster
jaybrundage (1): layabout, s0Lstice
WaveOfShadow (2): Ace, Zephirdd, [UoN]Sentinel, raynpelikoneet
Oatsmaster (2): Stutters695, JarJarDinks, Zephirdd, [UoN]Sentinel
prplhz (1): Oatsmaster, Stutters, layabout
Stutters695 (0): raynpelikoneet
s0Lstice (1): jaybrundage
[UoN]Sentinel (1): slOosh
raynpelikoneet (3): Zephirdd, mkfuba07, WaveofShadow

Not voted (3): Vivax, VayneAuthority, Stutters


raynpelikoneet is currently set to be lynched!
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 05 2013 17:03 GMT
#411
oh man.

Vote counts SPOT ON MAN.

Also we gotta consolidate or scum have a free ride.
I say on Ace.


Ace is the wagon of justice.

NIGHTS.
No gg, No skill.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 05 2013 17:06 GMT
#412
Don't like this.

##vote:WaveofShadow
I come in for the scraps
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21979 Posts
June 05 2013 17:06 GMT
#413
On June 06 2013 01:57 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 01:53 Vivax wrote:
@ Rayn

If you're so sure about WoS being scum, what are you trying to achieve by claiming you want to kill ace and writing that bit about layabout?

Vivax i reckon at least one of the people on the WoS wagon is scum. What do you think?


I agree, and after that last post it's likely to be Rayn.

##Vote Raynpeelikoneet


All aboard the wagon of justice
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21979 Posts
June 05 2013 17:07 GMT
#414
On June 06 2013 02:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
Don't like this.

##vote:WaveofShadow


?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
June 05 2013 17:08 GMT
#415
On June 06 2013 01:57 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 01:53 Vivax wrote:
@ Rayn

If you're so sure about WoS being scum, what are you trying to achieve by claiming you want to kill ace and writing that bit about layabout?

Vivax i reckon at least one of the people on the WoS wagon is scum. What do you think?

On June 06 2013 01:26 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 01:18 prplhz wrote:
On June 06 2013 00:45 slOosh wrote:
On June 06 2013 00:15 prplhz wrote:
On June 05 2013 23:59 slOosh wrote:
On June 05 2013 22:32 slOosh wrote:
prplhz when you can read into raynpelikoneet & [UoN]Sentinel and your thoughts.


I don't think [UoN]Sentinel is overly scummy. I don't really think your case on him is strong. He does seem rather uninvested in the game but he did explain his WaveofShadow vote and he's prodding here and there. I don't think he's overly town but I don't think he's overly scum either. Would not lynch as it is.

raynpelikoneet is being little scummier.

+ Show Spoiler +

highlighted with bold
On June 05 2013 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 05:10 Zephirdd wrote:
Phone posting. For the record i was town on mexican standoff. It was a game with only town and a survivor and many death millers

That's one of my points against stutters. He himself obviously did not even check the mexican standoff fully. And SK is more likely to play as town because they do not have teammates.

Other than, why the fuck would you make a meta case on someone who just said he is trying to change his "meta" because in last games of his he has been up for D1 lynch regardless of alignment?

Nothing prplhz has done this game is particularly scummy imo. If there is something i have missed, let me know Stutters.

I don't think this is valid at all, seems like a really weird defense of me.
On June 05 2013 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Prpl; you asked me about jay and wos. I need to hear more from him. I know from some games ive read that he is a possible lynchbait if town, but i don't like him using that as defence. Would lynch if he is not willing to do shit. About wos. I don't like his stance on lurkerlynches early on in the game. Why bring that up? I also don't like his stance on jay. How on earth does what Vivax says about jay being a lynchbait affect wos' opinion? Why does wos just take vivax at face value if he thinks jay is scummy? that is scummy.

##Unvote
##Vote: WoS


btw i think vayne is town. He has a weird playstyle but his defence on me is 100% correct. My activity is not alignment indicative.

I dont want to lynch stutters any more. I misread some stuff in his prpl case, and his response to my vote was a townie one. He did not get overly defensive.

I also think prpl is town.

Im gonna look more into other people tonigh. Ace, who do you want to lynch and why? Time to start doing stuff if you are town.

As you said, why didn't this make raynpelikoneet suspicious instead of just accepting it as "Holy fuck that's surprisingly good so he's probably town!".

His vote is also on WaveofShadow who is a bad lynch. Very lacklustre performance from raynpelikoneet so far.


How do you feel about VayneAuthority?

I don't feel like moving on prplhz, your answers are waffly. I never said Sentinel was overly scum, I just think out of the pool we have right now, he is one of the better choices, and I think your evaluation of him is too gracious. The fact that you find rayn a little scummier but choose to spoiler it is disconcerting.

Like, who the heck are you suspicious of? Clearly I find a problem with Sentinel but you want to bring up new suspects. Do you think vayne is scum?

My answers aren't waffle, I never said that you said [UoN]Sentinel was overly scum, it's not really disconcerting and you should really think I'm town by now. I did way more already than I did in my last many games town or scum games.

Yes, I think I want to lynch VayneAuthority.

##Vote VayneAuthority

lolwut
Where did that come from?

I'm going to look into Sentinel now. I believe that at least one of the 4 people who voted me originally are scum.


I want to talk about this a little. I've found that it a whole bunch of my past games, scum are likely to attempt a mislynch on me that begins to pick up steam but then fails. This has happened in Carnival Cruise, Ego Mini, and The Game. Most of the time, it's a fairly large case pushed by one member of the scumteam (BH in CC, Tunkeg in Ego, kitaman in The Game). Now in this case I'm not sure what to think. Ace technically started the wagon with his random vote, but never made a case or pushed his vote on me. (It could be argued this is similar to the SK Promethelax in Carnival Cruise who started the line of suspicion but never pushed or voted me?) Next up was Zeph whose case was weak imo and didn't bother really pushing it beyond his initial suspicion and vote (the second post he made against me was before he read my explanations).

Now according to the way this usually works, it would probably have to be Ace or Zeph as the scum who started this but I can't honestly be sure. I find it more likely in this case (because no large case was made and pushed) that the scum is Rayn or Sentinel who saw an opportunity to jump on a wagon they thought might have been going places (it never does). Either way, I believe that one (or more) of these four absolutely MUST be scum.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
June 05 2013 17:09 GMT
#416
On June 06 2013 02:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
Don't like this.

##vote:WaveofShadow

No Vayne, just no.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21979 Posts
June 05 2013 17:21 GMT
#417
This dude is even a better lynch

##Unvote
##Vote Vayne
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
June 05 2013 17:26 GMT
#418
On June 06 2013 02:21 Vivax wrote:
This dude is even a better lynch

##Unvote
##Vote Vayne

Why?
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
June 05 2013 17:38 GMT
#419
Because we are trying to vote rayn and vayne just decided wos shoukd be lynched, creating a draw in votes and making it easy for scum to switch to whoever they want.

Everyone vote rayne. I acknowledge that Im a terrible scumhunter, but the way the wagon formed on WoS after my case makes me sure that somewhere, there is something wrong with it.

Vivax, consolidate please
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 05 2013 17:40 GMT
#420
I don't necessarily think WoS is scum as its too early to tell but if that's my only other option besides rayn, so be it. He is one of my only townreads
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