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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
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ObviousOne
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
WoS, where is your BH/Prome scum case, or anything about them? You said that one of them must be scum. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
I've been operating under the assumption that scum would have hammered OO if he were town. Frankly I hadn't considered that maybe all the active scum at the time were on the wagon already because my assumption was based on the notion that OO was scum and VERY FEW scum were actually on his wagon at all. :/ ##Unvote I'm caught up. I think we should be lynching HiroPro. Hiro's play has been pretty "standoffish" and I'm not referring to his activity. Early on he was all up in DP's face about the miller claim, which seemed townie enough at the time - but go over his filter. Does he ever get all up in peoples' face because they're scummy or because they're scum? The only time he does is re: OO, found here: On May 14 2013 03:30 HiroPro wrote: yo, let's lynch obviousone. if you haven't do so go back and look at his views on darthpunk, especially the point where he shifts from calling the claim meaningless to attacking him. Look at the amount of times where he calls out a person for inactivity without actually bringing up something specific that he wants to ask them. It looks like someone trying to be seen as promoting discussion without actually doing anything.1) the last list post where he said three people that would be good lynches looks like a straight fluff post. there's almost nothing in that post that's actually relevant to this game (most of it is just a lazy attempt at "meta") and what little is there isn't even true. He doesn't even say anything about oatsmaster beyond "i'm not sure how to tell if he's mafia. i'll look at his games later".2) also note the way that obviousone responds to any accusations or suspicion which actually have reasons behind them (not just "oh you scum"). in almost all cases he responds with some irrelevant comment and tries to brush it away. 3)in general this is something that mafia are much more likely to do instead of trying to explain their own actions further. ##Vote ObviousOne Here are my problems with this post. 1) He accuses OO of bringing up people for inactivity while doing nothing to further the game himself at all. I'd probably agree with this sentiment, but I've read Hiro's filter. I guess he was looking for posts like On May 14 2013 07:22 HiroPro wrote: shirokami seems like a good lynch also. On May 15 2013 04:58 HiroPro wrote: viscera, do you actually think that you can get vayne lynched today? On May 15 2013 05:34 HiroPro wrote: s&b, how do you feel about lynching obviousone? from OO. No followup on any of these, they serve no purpose. And in that first one he's even calling Shiro a good lynch with ZERO reasoning attached...which he's accusing OO of in the second paragraph! 3) In my experience, this is straight up false. Scum feel far more inclined to explain their actions than town do. Town are FAR more likely to just brush off accusations of them, because they're TOWN! Their accusers are, by definition, wrong...so in general townies have no reason to respond to accusations until there's a threat of death. After D1, he developed some kind of scumread on Vivax. Based on....agreeing with BH? Like, I guess he was expecting Vivax to explicitly say WHY he had a townread on BH. But why? Vivax provided his own reasoning for being on WoS, and it's a perfectly townie response to think that people who agree with you are town. Perhaps not the best play, but natural nonetheless and definitely not exclusively the bailiwick of scum. But Hiro tries to paint it as scummy in this post. On May 16 2013 10:11 HiroPro wrote: What reasons are there for a town player to outright follow another player just based on who they are? The most common are that they have a strong town read on that player and a reasonably good opinion of their ability or that they have such a high view of that person's ability that they'll blindly follow them, enamored by the thought that this player will solve the game for them and make everything right (a la prplhz/Mattchew). In Vivax's posts, I don't see a single reason for thinking that Blazinghand is town. In fact, the only time Vivax ever mentions an opinion on Blazinhand's alignment (before following him) is when he says that BH reminds him more of his mafia play than his play as detective. After that there's never any indication of a reason for thinking BH is town that doesn't have to do with the push on WaveOfShadow. At the same time, when asked why he values BH's ability highly, Vivax can't (or won't) offer up a single reason or example. There is a good reason for mafia to do this kind of play though: avoiding responsibility. The reasons that Vivax gives for WaveOfShadow being mafia are always balanced out by the explanation that he's mostly doing it because BH is so confident and gave a '10'. Mafia are often concerned about negative backlash from a mislynch and Vivax appears to use BH's presence as a way to avoid this danger and instead pin the blame on someone else. The bolded statement I find incredibly ironic - especially considering his newfound aversion to lynching OO, and desire to lynch me. Since the N1 flips Hiro has done virtually nothing. He HAS said however that he's not willing to lynch OO. No reason given. But frankly he's right - my reasoning on OO is bad, and I feel bad...but I'm not scum. ##Vote: HiroPro OO I'm sorry I ever doubted you will you please be my friend again and lynch this guy with me? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On May 17 2013 11:38 Oatsmaster wrote: Nah, VE is the funner vet to lynch. Srsmode Oats, daddy's home. This trolly shit stops now. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
On May 17 2013 11:40 VisceraEyes wrote: Srsmode Oats, daddy's home. This trolly shit stops now. srsmode. Case makes sense, I am thinking that Hiro might be scum. I would like to see him respond. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
OO your similar cooperation/open-mindedness is requested NAY! REQUIRED! | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On May 17 2013 11:49 Oatsmaster wrote: srsmode. Case makes sense, I am thinking that Hiro might be scum. I would like to see him respond. Pretty much I want to watch you two talk it out, by you two I mean VE and Hiro. You're not anywhere near majority yet and people seem to be having trouble articulating their stance on you (people who I think are likely mafia) so yes we can be friends but you have to work with me on this to change my mind and find a second person who you think is mafia outside of Hiro while you wait for Hiro to get back to you. If he doesn't respond I'll take it as a scum claim and hammer him myself. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On May 17 2013 10:56 ObviousOne wrote: BH you wouldn't talk to me about Hiro before, that's fine I guess, water under the bridge. Today you WILL tell me your full read of VE, town or scum, and why. BH please don't go back to ignoring me. | ||
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Blazinghand
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Ace
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![[image loading]](http://www.kutv.com/news/features/world/stories//images/missingcruise_592.jpg) modkills! Bill Murray, Entertainment Director has been modkilled + Show Spoiler + Entertainment Director (Vanilla Town) - Welcome to another wonderful adventure with Carnival Cruise lines where high fantasy meets the high seas! You've got one of the best jobs on the ship! You get to throw parties, host naked yoga classes (sans the old people session), and walk around like you run the place since people are always begging you for free stuff. You of course extort them by forcing them to sleep with you. Life is good. Or was good. Some scummy looking guys have shown up and dont care about naked yoga so they are ready to toss your conniving ass overboard. What's that you say? You wanna keep the orgies going? Well then you know what to do - find these evil doers and get rid of them! What will the passengers do without your freebies on this expensive cruise anyway? You're important dude! You win when all threats to the cruise passengers (Town) are eliminated. Good luck! Have fun! sinani206, Crybaby kid with a lollipop has been modkilled + Show Spoiler + Crybaby Kid with a lollipop (Vanilla Town) - Welcome to another wonderful adventure with Carnival Cruise lines where high fantasy meets the high seas! No one knows where you're parents are but we are sure they left you alone because you're an annoying brat always crying for candy. The Cruise Ship personnel can't take your incessant whining (words too big you for you kid?) and so give you tons of free candy. Alas, some bad men are trying to take over the ship, and if they do you will no longer be allowed to rot your teeth at will. Stop the bad men from making you sad. You win when all threats to the cruise passengers (Town) are eliminated. Good luck! Have fun! chaoser, the Mimic Octopus (1-shot Copycat) has been modkilled + Show Spoiler + Mimic Octopus (1 shot Copycat) - being a relatively new species discovered by humans not many are aware of your presence. Now you want to study humans to see how they behave in their natural habitat and what better than a cruise ship full of sin? Besides, you're tired of eating shellfish all day. You wanna taste macaroni and cheese and drink kool-aid too. Luckily as an octopus you are good at copying other animal's behavior! Whenever the first power role in the game dies, whether from Town or Scum, you will receive a PM that gives you 1 use of the role. why only 1? balance. duh. You win when all threats to the cruise passengers (Town) are eliminated. Good luck! Day 2 wagoons With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch. ObviousOne[L-5]: Blazinghand, VisceraEyes WaveofShadow[L-7]: Oatsmaster[L-6]: WaveofShadow VisceraEyes[L-1]: Promethelax, ObviousOne, kushmasta, HiroPro, Oatsmaster, shirokami HiroPro[L-6]:VisceraEyes Day 2 ends Saturday, May 18 4:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) if no majority is reached Due to majority being shortened by 2 votes, there is a 18 hour grace period where no matter what the votes no one can be lynched. Basically 6 hours before deadline is the fastest anyone can die. This is to give everyone ample time to read the thread and change votes if they want due to the new threshold. Good luck! | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
SOMEONE QUICKLYNCH. FUCK THE SRS BIZNESS. VE CAN DIE!!!!! oh wait grace period. Fuckkkk. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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prplhz
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
On May 17 2013 13:21 prplhz wrote: I don't like lynching VisceraEyes at all. thoughts on Ve's case on Hiro. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On May 17 2013 13:18 Oatsmaster wrote: DIE VE. SOMEONE QUICKLYNCH. FUCK THE SRS BIZNESS. VE CAN DIE!!!!! oh wait grace period. Fuckkkk. VE tell me about Oats, brother. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
It seems genuine and also I actually like some of it, mostly the second part. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
Tell me about myself please? Why quote that and do nothing with it? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
On May 17 2013 13:33 prplhz wrote: It seems genuine and also I actually like some of it, mostly the second part. k. Why is your vote not on Hiro? | ||
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