Carnival Cruise Mafia - Page 68

On May 17 2013 13:42 Oatsmaster wrote:

k.
Why is your vote not on Hiro?

On May 17 2013 13:46 prplhz wrote:

I didn't vote yet.

I also think I'd rather lynch kushm4sta. I'll write a case around noon (6 hours from now).

On May 17 2013 13:42 Oatsmaster wrote:

Tell me about myself please? Why quote that and do nothing with it?

On May 17 2013 13:51 ObviousOne wrote:

I did do something with it. I put the ball in VE's court. Why so agitated? The question wasn't even posed to you. I'm trying to see if my scum read is wrong and you're interjecting with insanity like this and it makes me wonder about you. Like I just swore off reading your filter again and I'm about to renege on that to see what other subtly scummy shit you've been posting. You really want VE to die right now when he has the opportunity to show us he is town? Really? We didn't even get lucky with a mafia mod kill. You are too fucking excited to be town right now.

Instead of reviewing the day you are chanting for blood. What the fuck, dude?

On May 17 2013 13:58 ObviousOne wrote:
You're a spirited person today, Oats. I would say in exceptionally good spirits. Perhaps you are mafia and enjoying what is looking to be a flawless victory?

On May 17 2013 14:01 Oatsmaster wrote:

Lets see what happened today.
2 dudes that I was null on died at day post.
3 dudes that I was null on died cause they decided to fuck this game.

So yeah pretty happy that I dont have to find out alignments of 5 people that are difficult to read for me.

On May 17 2013 14:07 ObviousOne wrote:

Can you understand why I would find that scummy???

On May 17 2013 00:36 Promethelax wrote:
It's time for a new wagon, wake up town there is a vet looking at the noose:
##vote: VE
Go read my mega post for why, but TL:DR his play regarding OO is all kinds of not VE, if he had a strong town read on one of his favourite players he'd fight against that lynch not limp dick his way onto the wagon citing me as the reason for his vote.

On May 15 2013 10:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Let me put it out there that I'm willing to consolidate on OO if he's really lost the will to play. Prom is right, the fact that I have martyred as town doesn't make it a standard townie thing, and my read of OO might be biased because I like the guy.

I will move to OO to secure a lynch when the time comes.

On May 17 2013 03:03 HiroPro wrote:
I'm not interested in killing ObviousOne right now. i'll decide who to lynch later when I have time to read. probably viscera, but we'll see.

On May 17 2013 03:31 HiroPro wrote:
there's nothing about the politician that says they have to be mafia. it's entirely possible that they're town - i can think of at least two games that I've played in with a town politician. second, the deadline is at such a unusual time that even if the politician was mafia and obviousone was town, they simply might not have been around to move it from me to obvious. then there are some people in this game who seem to believe that it's better to lynch someone that's town than to have a no-lynch on d1, a mafia politician like that might even think it's a good idea to leave a town player alive.

On May 17 2013 14:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ok. Yeah agree with the kush thing BH said; I don't know him enough to know if meta case is good though because I've only played (am still playing?) one game with him. We're less than 24 hours from lynch though now and honestly I'd be wary of introducing more targets again since there seem to be quite a few people who cba to play the game much. Some of them are gone now, but there are still lurkers.

At first glance I like VE's Hiro case and he brought up something I remember thinking of when Hiro posted his OO case but again, want to do a full read of some filters before coming up with anything myself. IF in my promised read into Prom/BH I find something that I'd like to push I will not be attempting to take over the more popular lynch targets of the day for fear of another no-lynch. Is there anything that anyone wants from me before I go to bed that doesn't require a lot of time?

Another player that fits the bill is Oatsmaster. His voting patterns always parrot someone else's and give off the impression that he just wants to see people flip rather than finding scum. The day 1 vote thing is a red flag as it 1) easily aids the goal of no-lynch, and more importantly 2) let's him escape the responsibility and stance taking that a vote forces. There is no reason to think that this was a town votestealer, since the only use would be to take a suspected scum's vote and make him vote himself. Rather the vote was tossed away. A scum votestealer in a day 1 environment would have used the role defensively, since there is no point in stealing a town vote (no fear in consolidation on scumbuddy) and there could be the potential backlash of making the target look more town for it.

On May 16 2013 06:14 Vivax wrote:
I think it will rather be me and/or BH. No one is considering us for lynch, and WoS is scum.

You know what to do if we die tonight. Lynch that dude. No WIFOM bullshit. Go read what dead people wrote.

On May 16 2013 07:47 Vivax wrote:


I have to say that you bother me somewhat, too, upon reading. You talked a lot about coming to the conclusion that prplhz is probably town and what he does is so bad but I hardly see you pushing cases on people since the one on OO.

Your whole push against OO looks like a calculated tunnel, your other reads are weird and don't include much reasoning. You don't inquire as much as I would want you to. You don't seem to give updates based on OO's newer play, but keep pointing to an old case.

There seems to be very few doubt in your filter. I initially saw your firm opinions as town tell, but since they're becoming too firm on the timeline, they are actually looking like agenda now.

I didn't check how my other reads treated you, but you sure are a good candidate for scum just based on that.

On May 17 2013 14:13 Blazinghand wrote:
Unless you LITERALLY have a red check on Kushm4sta, your case against him MUST include meta. Every game this guy plays as town everyone says "omg kush is scum" and mislynch him. He always looks like scum, he's easy lynchbait, we are not lynching him unless he's doing something this game that's different than a normal kush town game, and is something he does as scum.

Anyone who makes case against kush that does not include a cop claim or a meta component, I will immediately vote you.

On May 17 2013 16:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
I tried to read Oats earlier and I almost went blind so I stopped. I try again. In general I get townfeels off him but maybe that's because he likes my Hiro case

Someone I DID read through though was Viviax. He's not scum. :OOOOOOOOOOOO

No seriously, I filtered Vivax because he died and maybe scum killed him. Brilliant exercise, if you don't with Vivax I highly suggest you do it in this game sometime.

Vivax said this. Vivax said this and then died. Two things pop into my mind reading this.

1) Vivax was town.
2) Scum knew Vivax was town.

Or to put it another way:

1) Vivax' suspicion of WoS was genuine. Vivax is a good player and in my last game he caught 2 scum on D1. I shouldn't forget this.

2) Vivax might be wrong. I've thought WoS was town since earlier when BH was putting him through the wringer. But when people die, survivors go back and read things. And Vivax wanted WoS dead. And scum killed Vivax.

So how likely are scum to shoot Vivax if WoS is scum? Obviously he was a huge detractor and said several times to "lynch this guy tomorrow if I die." Vivax WOULD have been targeting WoS today. And with BH leading the charge, there very well may have been a WoS lynch today. Depending on the team...pretty likely I guess.

Now: how likely are scum to shoot Vivax if WoS is town? He was thoroughly convinced of WoS' guilt, and on top of that he wasn't even the main force behind the WoS wagon, that was BH. That means that they can kill Vivax, AND the lynch on WoS isn't compromised! Regardless of the team, I think this is HIGHLY LIKELY THE CASE.

Allow me to present you with an alternative option:


Vivax was also starting to get suspicious of HiroPro. I posit that the NK on Vivax was designed specifically to incriminate WoS while simultaneously silencing Vivax regarding HiroPro.

Vivax was also passingly suspicious of prplhz, but that seemed to fizzle out as the day wore on...it's possible that maybe prplhz is scum based on this? I've had a tentative townread on prplhz all game, but frankly I totally missed that Vivax was suspicious of him D1. I'ma go reread prplhz now. I should go to bed, but I read Vivax to find more scum and ended up only reaffirming the one scum I'd already found