Carnival Cruise Mafia - Page 70

On May 17 2013 16:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Shiro is literally just following along with town sentiment. He hasn't done ANYTHING today - literally nothing but vote.

But something about it. Like look at this post:

Would scum SAY THIS? Like, let's remove all variables from the equation - don't factor in that he has a team - don't factor in that he's a "newbie" - just think of this from a scum-aligned standpoint. Can you think of a reason to EVER just come out and say "I just like to agree with the towniest guy there is."

UGH but his filter is SOOOOO BAD.

##Summon: Promethelax
##Summon: Blazinghand
##Summon: slOosh

You three. You three will immediately give me your opinion of shirokami. You will do this thing or you will NEVER regain your honor! Based on the observation I just made, I think town. I think new town in over his head. But I want backup on this one.

On May 17 2013 23:04 Promethelax wrote:


Your assessment matches mine.

## unvote

I'm liking the Play from VE today and hiro scum slipped. Points to the first person to find it.

##vote: hiropro

On May 17 2013 18:33 prplhz wrote:
Okay I really want to lynch kushm4sta.

The guy hasn't notably pushed anything hard this game. He's fine being lurkish and just poking in here and there. I don't really find that to be scummy in itself but it's not a town tell either.

What my problem with kusm4sta is is how he's focused on himself and how he himself appears and not about other people. This is especially prevalent in his early game with posts like this and this and this. Those posts have only one purpose: showing people that he doesn't care about how he appears, but by being so blatant about it becomes apparent that he very much cares about how he appears to other players.

Contrast his early posts from Dessert Mini Mafia where he was town. In this post which is one of his very first he comes out pretty strong with a "I'm going to tell you a scum read in a second", there's no focus on how he appears but focus only on contributing.

Read for yourself, the filters are pretty short:
Dessert Mini Mafia
This game

I also find this post very off. First of all he is promising us something very insubstantial: "more activity", it's really hard to hold people up on that. He's also promising it to us "second half of the game" but when is that? This game could end in a few days or it could drag on until 3 players left. He's promising us nothing and at a time no townie knows when is. I imagine townies who were busy would say "I am busy this weekend, will post something after" or something like that, not say "I am busy for the first half of the game"?!

And then look at his latest post:


First kushm4sta says that WaveofShadow spams as scum but he has absolutely no way to know this as WaveofShadow has never been scum. He is literally making things up here and there is NO townie motivation for this. His response also seems really nervous in that he makes a weird jokish comment on it like it means nothing when WaveofShadow has actually caught him in a direct lie that no townie would ever make.

Would you as town ever say that someone is acting like last time he was scum, when he has never rolled scum before? He also says it in a weirdly reassuring manner "Don't worry guys, just lynch him".

Anyway, lets lynch kushm4sta.

##Vote kushm4sta

On May 16 2013 10:11 HiroPro wrote:
What reasons are there for a town player to outright follow another player just based on who they are?
(snip)
There is a good reason for mafia to do this kind of play though: avoiding responsibility.

On May 18 2013 00:20 kushm4sta wrote:
Well you can't meta me because it's been forever since I've rolled scum.
If I cloned myself I could totally tell if I were scum, so I am readable without meta. But I can see how people could view me as unreadable. The problem is that SOOO many town have died and no scum have died. I think we have to kill scum today, and killing me would be a huge crapshoot.

On May 17 2013 23:55 Blazinghand wrote:


Although you've noted a small thing that he did in one game as town that he's not doing this game, you have failed horribly at meta because you haven't shown that it's something kush does as scum. Meta cases can't just be "I usually see him do this as town and he's not", it has to be "He does X as town and Y as scum, and this game he is doing Y". This is because people's play varies from game to game even within their alignment. People are busier or more or less active or just have good or bad analysis games.

Kush hasn't written as much about others as he has in one or two town games. So what?!

Show me where he does this as scum OR tell me you have a red check on him OR tell me this is a policy lynch.

Until then I will not unvote

##unvote
##vote prplhz

On May 18 2013 00:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
ohai guise.
Alright first things first: BH is your vote pn prplhz really productive? I agree that while his case on kush makes sense, it's stupid to try and deal with him normally because kush is just fucking kush. Are you somehow sure that prplhz is scum trying to push an easy mislynch on lynchbait or something just because he didn't follow your earlier directives on a kush case? I'd also be concerned because he is clearly trying to push a new wagon with 12h to go adding risk to another no-lynch I suppose....

VE: totes town. Alright maybe not totes but leaning towards such at the moment so I'm not voting him. Part 2 of his Hiro case is intriguing (Oats makes a point, why can't Hiro and I both be scum?). Prom I'm sorry for this because self-boner time, but whenever someone agrees with my conspiracy theories that people are out to frame me it worries me, because most of the time it's people like Prom telling me not to be a dumbass (even though I have been right multiple times). I'm just getting this out there because overall I'm going to trust VE that he's using his brain on this.

Going to look into my promised reads on Hiro/Prom/BH now. Will vote once I'm finished. Once again, no one seems to suspect Oats enough to vote him aside from me, so
##Unvote