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layabout
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Open your eyes. Kitaman27 is scum! ##voteKitaman27 | ||
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layabout
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On March 27 2013 03:39 layabout wrote: I am back am from the looks of it i am one of the few. I'm disappointed with the wiggles flip and surprised by the nightkills. It would have been dumb for us to keep VE around and killing him has pretty much confirmed that the mirror exists. It's strange that mafia wanted to tell us this rather than take more predictable shots. Between the mirror being mafia and 3p i would say that 3rd makes a LOT more sense. We are therefore looking at a 4-1-8 at best since If the mirror has recruited anybody we might not have control of the vote and with 2 KP this could very well be lylo. Why are these players still alive? Testsubject893 ThePeaShooter WaveOfShadow I might not be one to talk but with this level of activity and those spread out votes we don't stand a chance. From this post the link between nightkills and why didn't these players die should be apparent. But instead of realizing this or asking for clarification kita jumps at the chance to spread more confusion and presents it as my "top 3 scumreads" and calls me a troll. +the "scumslip" is BS | ||
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kitaman27
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On March 27 2013 10:45 layabout wrote: Cosmic makes the point that Kitaman has been misdirecting us. After re-reading it turns out that Kitaman27 is the one who raised a bunch of suspicion and posting around Vivax by tring to make an issue out of a scumslip that we should have just ignored. lol that occurred in the opening hours of the game and was dropped moments later. Is this honestly the best you can come up with? On March 27 2013 10:45 layabout wrote: Wiggles dying words were to warn us about kitaman27 and we should not dismiss them out of hand. Wiggles also had a cosmic scum read, but clearly that doesn't fit your case. How about explain things yourself, rather than hide behind a dead man. On March 27 2013 10:58 layabout wrote: Kitaman27 also straight up lies about my meta when he calls me scum. Again he is misdirecting the thread. he describes my play in those games as taking a back seat In storm mafia i was the second on the day1 redff lynch and the first serious vote on it, i also wrote a case on VE the serial killer and pushed him hard. In holy romanholy roman i spent a good while reading the 100+ pages having replaced in and then dealt with around 1 lynch before i was dt checked and spent my time spamming the thread and pushing each living player in one day. Open your eyes. Kitaman27 is scum! ##voteKitaman27 I'm not lying. You were the second person on redff, then you proceed to not post in the entire thread the remainder of the cycle. Sure you pushed VE for like six days or whatever, but you clearly didn't put in enough effort to get him lynched considering he survived until endgame. bugs was calling the shots that game and it was pretty clear. We're not disagreeing about Holy Roman so I don't see how I could possibly be lying. I think the most telling thing is how unwilling layabout is to go after cosmic. Voting cosmic would be his only possible chance at survival, yet he decides to go after me instead. I find it extremely likely that we've found a pair of scum buddies. | ||
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layabout
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On March 27 2013 11:12 kitaman27 wrote: lol that occurred in the opening hours of the game and was dropped moments later. Is this honestly the best you can come up with? Wiggles also had a cosmic scum read, but clearly that doesn't fit your case. How about explain things yourself, rather than hide behind a dead man. I'm not lying. You were the second person on redff, then you proceed to not post in the entire thread the remainder of the cycle. Sure you pushed VE for like six days or whatever, but you clearly didn't put in enough effort to get him lynched considering he survived until endgame. bugs was calling the shots that game and it was pretty clear. We're not disagreeing about Holy Roman so I don't see how I could possibly be lying. I think the most telling thing is how unwilling layabout is to go after cosmic. Voting cosmic would be his only possible chance at survival, yet he decides to go after me instead. I find it extremely likely that we've found a pair of scum buddies. The vivax slip took up a lot of discussion, even into day2. VE was the first person on redff and spent the day jumping all over the place, i was the one who suggested that our whole team went onto redFF and i was started the wagon WBG took a more active role but the main reason VE stayed alive was that we decided to push other players d2 and d3 and went all-in to save RoL d4 at which point we could not get anybody lynched, we also trad to shoot VE instead. I didn't take a backseat in Holy Roman besides, it was a very unusual game that wasn't representative of many players normal play yet you are using it to represent my "meta" falsely. | ||
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cosmicomics
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If you are one of the several remaining town players, you may have felt helpless, clueless, and unable to piece together the wrecked shambles of this eclectic mob. All were drawn for various reasons. Some for base desires such as avarice. Some for the unquenchable thirst of curiosity. And some, of course, for the simple pleasure of imposing their will upon others, whether through subtle machinations or brute disparagement. For them, there is no greater delight than to crush. To deceive. To destroy. They had banded together from the start, and have ruthlessly worked into leading people astray into a whirlwind of accusation and doubt, fear and uncertainty. Not even their numbers are known, let alone their identities. Many fumble and grasp at straws of hope, only to be haunted by memories of past failure. Who is it? Who could it be? It is to you fair folk today that I unveil my true identity. Yes, indeed, I am none other than the Mirror himself. I have been watching from the very start, watching at what childish games the world of men indulged themselves in. Watching in amusement, wondrous of how the days may plan out, bemused at the antics of mortals. I have been observing from aeons past and will continue into aeons hither, for this is certainly not the first group to be invited to such charades. And yet, for an inexplicable reason, this group was more than just another ticking time bomb, a rabid mob, frenzied to devour themselves alive. And who could have foreseen that I, the immutable one, could be moved by but just one fair lady ... You mortals have rumors amongst yourselves of a great beauty in ages past, one whose face launched a thousand ships. Ha! I have seen her myself and she is but a shadow, a mere backdrop which only serves to contrast against the radiance of her ... But how could it ever be ... for I have been trapped within the confines of this glass visage, ruler and king supreme in my world, nothing more than an trinket in hers. How! I say, how could I, who could only reflect, grab the attention of her?! Pathetically worse than insipid paint on a wall! At least you can look at a wall!!! How can one look at a mirror without looking into it ... It was too late. I was already entranced. I had made up my resolve. She must be mine, and I alone would be hers for eternity. That fair lady, that fair layabout. Others would surely jest and mock, but I would welcome all the jeers and taunts and derision for the opinion of the world was never of interest and never of meaning. Call me vanity incarnate, for I will but hold that sobriquet in utmost honor, for the privilege of reflecting her glory. And so I did just that. I drew her unwittingly, and before she knew, she was mine. Her physical body still tied to the world, but her mind, soul and heart were mine as no doubt many of you have begun to notice that her attentions and focuses were elsewhere and not of this world. Indeed, for they were upon me. And what literary irony is this! Star crossed lovers pitted against the world to fend for themselves! Not a drop of pity, not a hint of remorse, voices clamoring in unison for the breaking of this "ungodly yoke". Forsooth, I pray thee dear townspeople, have mercy upon us! Have mercy, for we cannot live without each other. We have no interests in the prize money, we have no interests in holding power or maintaining our rights to vote. Have it all! Take it! They are meaningless to us. Just let us be, just let us be ... for so entwined in each other, we can not bear the thought of living alone, for death is more welcome than loneliness. Come, my darling, let us drink deep of each others gaze! + Show Spoiler + Ok so all creepyness aside, I'm the Mirror and layabout is my star crossed lover. I'm almost positive that he is town. I picked him because he seemed like he was a low focus player who can survive mislynches / shots till LYLO with me. That's my, and now layabout's wincon. We just have to make it till LYLO. If one of us dies, the other dies too. We get a 1KP bullet proof vest a night, but I have to choose whether it is on me or layabout, and once it absorbs a hit it's gone. We still have it. VisceraEyes was for the lulz. If you can't tell I really like writing fluff, even though I'm probably terrible at it. This cycle I anonymously masoned kitamin (<3 geript's typo) to get a better read on him. Specifically I pretended I was 3rd party who could co-operate with scum team to see if he would bite. Upon review I have no clue if it is indicative of either way. Edited out timestamps for legibility. + Show Spoiler + The Mirror test The Mirror Hey, how are you doing? Let's cut the flavour and get right down. If you could DT someone tonight who would you choose? Kita Aww VE gets flavor and I don't?  Probably cosmicomics. I'm pretty confident that he is scum after rereading the thread last night. It looks like he went straight omgus mode, so I might have struck a nerve. Glurio also looks pretty bad for the reasoning I stated earlier. How about you? Kita Also, what do you think about cosmic and glurio based on my cases I've outlined? Kita Is there a good time that you would be around so we can chat? I'd be much more comfortable discussing things with you in real-time. Kita Also, is it a safe assumption to make that I'm still town and haven't been recruited? Furthermore, do you have the ability to recruit at all or were you lying to VE? The Mirror Umm yea ... so do you want to cooperate? I can swing this game either way. Kita What does cooperating entail and what evidence can you give me that you have town's best interest in mind? The Mirror ahahaha ok, I'll talk to you later when maybe you'll take me more seriously Kita Cute. What time works for you? Kita I'm starting to get the impression that you don't want to chat with me The Mirror Well ... I'm trying to figure out something pretty important on my end ... and it's not resolving as quickly as I want it too. Could I have your quick gut read on DarthPunk? Kita What might that be? Maybe I can help! It could be the start of our friendship! We should totally chat stuff 1:1 when we're both around. When are you available? Kita As for DarthPunk, its quite possible that he's the mirror jerk who refuses to talk to me.  Kita Do you have any recruits currently? Does your win condition allow you to win with town? So the majority of today's votes are between a 3rd party and a town. That means mafia are most likely playing it complacent and laying low, because there isn't really a need to do anything. Basically a repeat of the Mr. Wiggles lynch. I'm not too sure if kitaman is scum or not, given that I haven't been able to invest the utmost time, but my thoughts are that there are definitely scum hiding amongst the lurkeresque players. Namely DarthPunk On March 27 2013 08:23 DarthPunk wrote: Just caught up with the thread. I was super busy catching up on my reading for UNI. The night kills were really weird. I have no idea why an absent VE and Coag were lynched ahead of Kitaman or WoS. I am half tempted to call the both of them scum for just being alive at this point. But the fact of the matter is that WoS claim was sooooo messy that it is probably townie. And I have had a town read on Kita for a substantial majority of the game. So I am going to trust those reads for better or worse I am afraid. I really don't like the wagon on CC as it reeks of an easy wagon on lynch bait. the contradiction of Layabout unearthed by kita a page back is something that feels to me like a genuine slip/expression that is indicative of a scum thought process. I am going with that, as I am having a heap of problems forming a read at all and it seems like the best thing to go on. I will be checking the thread regularly until lynch. If anyone wants to talk or requests a filter of someone and my thoughts etc. Let me know. This is a scum claim right here. Calls the wagon on me as easy wagon on lynch bait, when it is his primary town read that is spearheading this lynch, and his primary town read's evidence that leads him to vote his alternative choice layabout. This is called scum trying to look good after a mislynch. More focus in being on "the right wagon" rather than getting scum lynched. Accentuating his uncertainty and his confusion (cf. Ver's Mafia Analysis). He is playing a very responsive playstyle "if you want something ask me, otherwise I won't say anything". If anything at this kind of critical juncture, town players would be working hard to get their thoughts out in discussion. DarthPunk is just watching things happen and is only concerned with maintaining his self image. Not at all in finding scum. Best bet in hitting scum today. Unvote: kitaman27 Vote: DarthPunk Yea ... so this is it. If you guys don't believe my claim, then by all means you should lynch me. But there is ample evidence in my interactions with layabout, as well as his 3rd party mason knowledge that zarepath brought up to show that the mason link is true. It is probably unlikely that scum would have 2 masons, and that I would mason VisceraEyes after he outed Wade Fell, because people love "balance" and would use the balance argument to lynch into one of us. You can lynch me because I could be 3rd party lying about my win con, but there hasn't been any additional SK KP of any sort, nor have we acted in a way that was intentionally detrimental to town (being wrong about scum reads is not intentional). <3 layabout. Sorry I dragged you into this mess, I didn't think it would end up like this. | ||
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DarthPunk
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geript
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cosmicomics
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On March 27 2013 11:45 DarthPunk wrote: ##Unvote Behold, the fiend emerges out of his hidey-hole! Away from my fair lady you foul beast! | ||
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cosmicomics
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On March 27 2013 11:51 geript wrote: Oh wtf. First VE now this shit... I apologize dear friend for undue grief. But my words are true. For our love spans cycles many, from the very dawns of day 1. On March 18 2013 07:42 layabout wrote: Hey cosmic, what are your thoughts about everything else? On March 20 2013 01:16 layabout wrote: cosmic get your butt in here now and tell me what you think about BH. | ||
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TestSubject893
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layabout
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On March 27 2013 12:09 layabout wrote: DarthPunk do you mind telling me where you stand, it's getting quite late? Whether you have been busy or not you have provided nothing relevant since day2 and much of your posting on day2 was insubstantial. For all your early aggression you have simply sheeped onto wagons with little effort or evidence of thought. In the only analysissy type post of yours since day 2 + Show Spoiler + On March 25 2013 14:15 DarthPunk wrote: Hi I've been reading the thread but to be honest I am pretty disheartened with the whole situation. For what it's worth I have a solid town read on Wave of shadow. Somethings I didn't;t like recently. This is the second time Viscera Eyes has said something similar to this and just disappeared afterwards. These false promises of activity are really scummy. VE was a really really solid scum read of mine until his claim. I think it would have been retarded to fake claim by holding back KP day one. But not impossible. He is a question that needs to be solved. But honestly I am too worried about mislynching to take a risk on VE. Maybe he is the best choice. IDK. The other thing I didn;t like was this. These kind of posts are super weird after we mislynched again. When I mislynch three times in a row my confidence is shot. I double and triple think every read because I am worried about mis-lynching again. So when people come straight out after a mislynch like that fearlessly wanting to lynch into lynch bait. It worries me immensely. You call VE scummy after who had stated he could not be scum in your opinion. Why would you call a player scummy if you don't think that player could be scum? I makes no sense if your town. But if your mafia it benefits you to cast doubt whenever you can. Oh and your vote on me was horsemanure i only ignored you because i didn't want to introduce another candidate. It seems a Kitaman lynch is off the cards and cosmic isn't mafia. Lynching a survivor does nothing to reduce mafia KP and it will let them get more shots off. ##vote DarthPunk | ||
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cosmicomics
81 Posts
On March 27 2013 12:28 TestSubject893 wrote: Well this throws a wrench in things. I was all ready to come back and stack on cosmic since no one believes me that WoS is obviously scum.... I don't see any reason not to believe him since layabout isn't objecting. I guess its possible that they're both scum. Its also possible that they actually are gonna get some KP later and are just lying. Hmmm.... gotta think about this. True, it is possible that I am lying and perhaps we will get some KP later. But it is a fact that mafia have KP now, and they have and will continue to use it unabashedly against town. That won't change. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On March 27 2013 12:09 layabout wrote: DarthPunk do you mind telling me where you stand, it's getting quite late? Wave of shadow - Town with DT claim The Peashooter - Town from WoS check Testsubject - Town with Vig claim. Cosmi - Non- Anti town third party Layabout - as above Excluding me there are: RyuSuzaku kitaman27 DoYouHas glurio zarepath Kenpachi geript Remaining. There are probably 4 scum left after wade fell died. I am assuming the mafia KP is X/2 rounded down. At the moment I am trying to figure out which 4 out of those 7 are scum. I would probably put Zarepath as town from what I have read of him. At the moment I am looking at a kita lynch as kita has only made very constructed and crafted posts. Has not posted a lot but enough to come off as townie. Has flown under the radar and pushed cases on a townie/3rd party every time. Also Kita has posted good and reasonable cases. And a lot of them. So it doesn;t make any snese for kita to be alive and coag and VE to die last night. So yeah. At the moment I am looking at a kita lynch. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
On March 27 2013 12:37 layabout wrote: Whether you have been busy or not you have provided nothing relevant since day2 and much of your posting on day2 was insubstantial. For all your early aggression you have simply sheeped onto wagons with little effort or evidence of thought. In the only analysissy type post of yours since day 2 + Show Spoiler + On March 25 2013 14:15 DarthPunk wrote: Hi I've been reading the thread but to be honest I am pretty disheartened with the whole situation. For what it's worth I have a solid town read on Wave of shadow. Somethings I didn't;t like recently. This is the second time Viscera Eyes has said something similar to this and just disappeared afterwards. These false promises of activity are really scummy. VE was a really really solid scum read of mine until his claim. I think it would have been retarded to fake claim by holding back KP day one. But not impossible. He is a question that needs to be solved. But honestly I am too worried about mislynching to take a risk on VE. Maybe he is the best choice. IDK. The other thing I didn;t like was this. These kind of posts are super weird after we mislynched again. When I mislynch three times in a row my confidence is shot. I double and triple think every read because I am worried about mis-lynching again. So when people come straight out after a mislynch like that fearlessly wanting to lynch into lynch bait. It worries me immensely. You call VE scummy after who had stated he could not be scum in your opinion. Why would you call a player scummy if you don't think that player could be scum? I makes no sense if your town. But if your mafia it benefits you to cast doubt whenever you can. Oh and your vote on me was horsemanure i only ignored you because i didn't want to introduce another candidate. It seems a Kitaman lynch is off the cards and cosmic isn't mafia. Lynching a survivor does nothing to reduce mafia KP and it will let them get more shots off. ##vote DarthPunk I admit I have played terrible. But now is not the time to lynch people for that. | ||
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cosmicomics
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RyuSuzaku
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On March 27 2013 12:49 cosmicomics wrote: It's really straightforward. You either think I am scum and layabout my scum partner and you lynch us, or you think we are 3rd party and you don't lynch us. Doesn't make sense to call us 3rd party and then continue to lynch us because coupled with scum KP will probably be endgame. Actually, from my perspective it makes no sense to lynch anyone but you. If you are not with town, we need to kill you to win the game. That's what I know. My vote's not moving. | ||
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cosmicomics
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On March 27 2013 12:45 DarthPunk wrote: At the moment I am looking at a kita lynch as kita has only made very constructed and crafted posts. Has not posted a lot but enough to come off as townie. Has flown under the radar and pushed cases on a townie/3rd party every time. Also Kita has posted good and reasonable cases. And a lot of them. So it doesn;t make any snese for kita to be alive and coag and VE to die last night. So yeah. At the moment I am looking at a kita lynch. The knave panics! | ||
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DarthPunk
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LOL I can't tell if you or I are going to look worse when I flip town. | ||
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