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At least Ryu is here to tell us that he doesn't want to lynch mafia.
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
cough ken cough At least Ryu is here to tell us that he doesn't want to lynch mafia. | ||
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RyuSuzaku
Japan139 Posts
On March 27 2013 12:54 DarthPunk wrote: LOL I can't tell if you or I are going to look worse when I flip town. Are you actually town, or are you with this mirror guy? Or maybe I was right and you are scum? This game is turning out to be really stupid. But even if you are just dumb town it should still be really obvious to you that we can't win without killing cosmic. Reminds me of that game BH claimed SK as town because he thought he could manipulate town into letting him live on the condition that he "lent" them his gun. IIRC the targets he offered to kill were all townies. | ||
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cosmicomics
81 Posts
On March 27 2013 12:54 DarthPunk wrote: LOL I can't tell if you or I are going to look worse when I flip town. Haha, me neither, since you know, dead people tend to look bad when they flip town ... lol you serious? | ||
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RyuSuzaku
Japan139 Posts
On March 27 2013 12:56 layabout wrote: It would be nice if people were around rather than posting once and leaving: cough ken cough At least Ryu is here to tell us that he doesn't want to lynch mafia. third party and mafia are both scum. Nice try, scum. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On March 27 2013 12:58 cosmicomics wrote: Haha, me neither, since you know, dead people tend to look bad when they flip town ... lol you serious? The fact that people think I am scum means I Failed in probably the most important part of town play. Also. I have played like shit. So yeah I am going to look bad. | ||
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cosmicomics
81 Posts
On March 27 2013 12:58 RyuSuzaku wrote: Are you actually town, or are you with this mirror guy? Or maybe I was right and you are scum? This game is turning out to be really stupid. But even if you are just dumb town it should still be really obvious to you that we can't win without killing cosmic. Reminds me of that game BH claimed SK as town because he thought he could manipulate town into letting him live on the condition that he "lent" them his gun. IIRC the targets he offered to kill were all townies. "even if you are just dumb town, it should still be really obvious to you that town can't win without killing scum" Cause, you know, removing 2 non-mafia votes is also key in lynching scum in the future. On March 24 2013 07:38 RyuSuzaku wrote: After rereading my strongest scum read is probably DarthPunk. Clearly some mismatching motives / agenda here. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On March 27 2013 11:36 cosmicomics wrote: Ok so all creepyness aside, I'm the Mirror and layabout is my star crossed lover. I'm almost positive that he is town. I picked him because he seemed like he was a low focus player who can survive mislynches / shots till LYLO with me. That's my, and now layabout's wincon. We just have to make it till LYLO. If one of us dies, the other dies too. We get a 1KP bullet proof vest a night, but I have to choose whether it is on me or layabout, and once it absorbs a hit it's gone. We still have it. cosmic clearly doesn't win by surviving with town. This is all nonsense. Remember on day two how he manipulated VE into thinking he was being recruited? And then he proceed to push for his lynch? He made no effort in clearing the suspicions that VE was third party. He pushed a mislynch for the "lulz". This isn't play indicative of a player that wins with town. A survivor with a bulletproof vest uses his mason ability to scum hunt and then use the town cred to never be lynched. They don't push mislynches for their own amusement. I tried to chat with him 1:1 in real time to get a read on him, but he dodged me at everyone opportunity. He claims to have been trying to figure out my alignment, yet every opportunity I requested to chat, he brushed off. After writing a case against me which proved how sure he was that I am scum, now that people agree I am town, he backtracks and jumps on another player with DarthPunk. He claims to have reread the thread to discover that I was mafia earlier, now he admits he hasn't been reading the thread very closely at all. cosmic and layabout were almost certainly going to be lynched the next two cycles. I pegged them as scum, they couldn't misdirect the lynch and this is their last ditch effort to swing things. Notice how they waited until only a few hours left in the cycle to pull this stunt. They're hoping that we buy into their story and do a last minute panic switch without thinking things through. It's also possible that this ploy would allow their kp to remain at two for another night. cosmic needs to be lynched this cycle. | ||
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geript
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On March 27 2013 13:09 kitaman27 wrote: dp, your number one mafia read in layabout suddenly comes up with a fake claim, wants to lynch you, and you buy into it? Why would you believe a word they say if you thought he was scum prior to the claim? Because there is absolutely ZERO reason for scum to fake claim right now. They are clearly winning. So why just throw away two scum members for no reason? It makes no sense at all for mafia to fake claim. It makes perfect sense for 3rd party to help town right now because we are in an awful position. That is why I believe the claim. No one should not believe the claim. Yourself and Ryo are basically claiming scum right now. ##Vote: Kitaman27 | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
WHOA. Alright so coming back to this it's clear that me diving into a new developing scumread will have to wait because it's just going to derail discussion. For now until we figure out what's up, Unvote: Cosmicomics Alright were there any outstanding questions people had for me just in case I'm getting in the way of a clear lynch target? Oh and I have a really hard time believing kita is scum, but I'll look into it. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On March 27 2013 13:12 DarthPunk wrote: Because there is absolutely ZERO reason for scum to fake claim right now. They are clearly winning. So why just throw away two scum members for no reason? It makes no sense at all for mafia to fake claim. It makes perfect sense for 3rd party to help town right now because we are in an awful position. That is why I believe the claim. No one should not believe the claim. Yourself and Ryo are basically claiming scum right now. ##Vote: Kitaman27 Are you kidding me? There were 5 votes on cosmic and 3 votes on layabout before this claim. One of them was most certainly going to get lynched this cycle. There is only a couple hours in the cycle remaining. Do you expect that we were going to suddenly decide to all swap to WoS or something? They have every reason to fake claim for survival right now. The moment cosmic flipped scum, everyone was going to lynch layabout the next cycle. This is their only chance. You say that cosmic wants to work with town, but ignore the fact that he trolled VE and tried to push his mislynch? | ||
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geript
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cosmicomics
81 Posts
The only people to gain from lynching 3rd party is scum, because it removes 2 non-mafia controlled votes, they avoid another lynch and with 2KP they might even just cliche the game right there. Doesn't make sense for town to lynch 3rd party right now. Balance of powers. Unvote: DarthPunk Vote: kitaman27 | ||
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cosmicomics
81 Posts
He isn't even trying to figure it out, just trying to get me lynched. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
I win with cosmic but my blood runs green. I remember reading that there is 4 mafia right? 13 alive T M 3p 8 4 1 with 6 town and 4 scum with 2 KP assuming KP X/2 rounded down gives we lynch scum everyday gives: 8 4 1 d4 8 4 n4 6 4 d5 lylo* 6 3 n5 5 3 d6 lylo 5 2 n6 4 2 d7 mylo 4 1 n7 3 1 d8 mylo with KP as X/2 rounded up 8 4 1 d4 8 4 n4 6 4 d5 lylo 6 3 n5 4 3 d6 lylo 4 2 n6 3 2 d7 lylo 3 1 n7 2 1 d8 lylo *lylo is lynch scum or lose mylo is mislynch and lose if individual scum have the kp then these situation could be drastically worse or a little better If cosmic lives then there is a BP vest around and we have two more players that aren't mafia. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
Wave, there was absolutely no reason for cosmic not to fake claim at this point. There was a 95% chance that he was getting lynched so he claims third party and tries to move the lynch elsewhere. If he is scum before, he is about to die and needs to find a way out of it, what reason is there to believe a word he says? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
I find the claim fairly believable actually since I don't see scum getting two mason roles while we only get one. Layabout does your role have a name as well? And as far as a kita lynch goes, it doesn't feel good to me at all...I gotta look into this. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On March 27 2013 13:21 kitaman27 wrote: Hey look, cosmic goes from a mafia read, realizes I won't be lynched, switches to a null read on me and a mafia read on DP, realizes that DP wants to lynch me, and now is back to a mafia read on me. How convenient. Wave, there was absolutely no reason for cosmic not to fake claim at this point. There was a 95% chance that he was getting lynched so he claims third party and tries to move the lynch elsewhere. If he is scum before, he is about to die and needs to find a way out of it, what reason is there to believe a word he says? It seems that all of a sudden you care a lot more than about the lynch than You have previously. I am pretty sure you are scum now kita. and if I am wrong. Well. I apologise. | ||
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cosmicomics
81 Posts
On March 27 2013 13:03 kitaman27 wrote: cosmic clearly doesn't win by surviving with town. This is all nonsense. Remember on day two how he manipulated VE into thinking he was being recruited? And then he proceed to push for his lynch? He made no effort in clearing the suspicions that VE was third party. He pushed a mislynch for the "lulz". This isn't play indicative of a player that wins with town. A survivor with a bulletproof vest uses his mason ability to scum hunt and then use the town cred to never be lynched. They don't push mislynches for their own amusement. I tried to chat with him 1:1 in real time to get a read on him, but he dodged me at everyone opportunity. He claims to have been trying to figure out my alignment, yet every opportunity I requested to chat, he brushed off. After writing a case against me which proved how sure he was that I am scum, now that people agree I am town, he backtracks and jumps on another player with DarthPunk. He claims to have reread the thread to discover that I was mafia earlier, now he admits he hasn't been reading the thread very closely at all. cosmic and layabout were almost certainly going to be lynched the next two cycles. I pegged them as scum, they couldn't misdirect the lynch and this is their last ditch effort to swing things. Notice how they waited until only a few hours left in the cycle to pull this stunt. They're hoping that we buy into their story and do a last minute panic switch without thinking things through. It's also possible that this ploy would allow their kp to remain at two for another night. cosmic needs to be lynched this cycle. On March 27 2013 13:16 kitaman27 wrote: Are you kidding me? There were 5 votes on cosmic and 3 votes on layabout before this claim. One of them was most certainly going to get lynched this cycle. There is only a couple hours in the cycle remaining. Do you expect that we were going to suddenly decide to all swap to WoS or something? They have every reason to fake claim for survival right now. The moment cosmic flipped scum, everyone was going to lynch layabout the next cycle. This is their only chance. You say that cosmic wants to work with town, but ignore the fact that he trolled VE and tried to push his mislynch? Bold is kitaman trying to lynch me for being 3rd party. Red is kitaman trying to lynch me for being scum. Nowhere does kitaman actually try to evaluate what I actually am or the repercussions that lynching me will bring. | ||
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