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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On March 27 2013 13:41 ThePeashooter wrote:
Sorry for my apathy. There were a certain few parts in this game that completely destroyed my will to play. Based off the most recent set of posting it looks like LayAbout is scum to me. I really don't think the WoS claim or my rolecheck can be questioned if you actually care to look at the evidence and he seems to just be trying to cause chaos.
My apathy caused by certain players this game combined with me actually being really busy the last couple of days lead to me playing an extremely lackluster game. I really did intend on delivering more and better analysis but I just didn't have the time to do it the last few days.
I 100% agree that layabout is scum, but cosmic is as well. They just fake claimed to ensure their survival after we basically all agreed that we would be lynching them back to back the next two cycles.
We need your vote on cosmic since that is where we have all consolidated on and we will lynch layabout tomorrow.
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On March 27 2013 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 13:41 kitaman27 wrote:On March 27 2013 13:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
So a Dreamer?
Can you confirm that you die if cosmic does, because that's not what your last post makes it seem like. Their fake claims don't even line up. cosmic claims that when one of them dies, they both die. layabout claims that he was town, was converted to third party, and would be converted back to town if cosmic dies. generally Mafia fake claims do not have all the perceived inconsistencies that this claim has. This claim makes no sense for scum. It makes sense for third party. Do I think that they win with town. NO. But I believe that they realise that without their help town loses. So for the moment it is in our mutual interest to work together.
this is scum logic.
Who claims 3 hours before deadline to save themselves? Scum. Who paddles back and forth between calling someone scum and voting someone else to simply live? Scum.
Scum most probably has found an opportunity to win with mislynching town today. If scum lynches town and there are still 2 KP left then we're in a very bad spot.
The argument "do I believe X wins with town? No" Should ALWAYS be followed by "thus I want to lynch X," yet we see here that miraculously DP has somehow come to the conclusion that we should not lynch this nontown player. I don't believe DP is stupid enough as town to do this, so he must be scum.
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WE CAN'T SPLIT VOTES RIGHT NOW.
I'm talking to you, TPS. If you're town and you think layabout is scum then you need to consolidate on cosmic. They are both scum, but we don't have the votes to switch to layabout right now.
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I wasn't completely current when I posted my vote, I was at around page 136, 138 or something. So you have my apologies. I will say I find it odd you are still alive though. I feel like mafia would be afraid you would come in around day 4 and rape them if you actually put the effort in. I will vote cosmic with reservations about you. I usually don't resort to meta arguments but without any time to divert a lynch or do actual analysis I'm left with very little other choice.
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On March 27 2013 13:44 layabout wrote:
TPS uses his greencheck to help mafia win.
TPS is probaly the ___father.
This is scummy as hell layabout. I've been saying shit like this all game but at the same time saying I still have to assume he's green for now. You bring this up right as all the chaos is going down regarding your 3rd party wincons and late-day lynch targeting? The only reason I could think to bring up another possible lynch target right now is to misdirect.
This does make it seem like you're trying to cause chaos. Thank you for answering my questions though.
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On March 27 2013 13:47 RyuSuzaku wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:On March 27 2013 13:41 kitaman27 wrote:On March 27 2013 13:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
So a Dreamer?
Can you confirm that you die if cosmic does, because that's not what your last post makes it seem like. Their fake claims don't even line up. cosmic claims that when one of them dies, they both die. layabout claims that he was town, was converted to third party, and would be converted back to town if cosmic dies. generally Mafia fake claims do not have all the perceived inconsistencies that this claim has. This claim makes no sense for scum. It makes sense for third party. Do I think that they win with town. NO. But I believe that they realise that without their help town loses. So for the moment it is in our mutual interest to work together. this is scum logic. Who claims 3 hours before deadline to save themselves? Scum. Who paddles back and forth between calling someone scum and voting someone else to simply live? Scum. Scum most probably has found an opportunity to win with mislynching town today. If scum lynches town and there are still 2 KP left then we're in a very bad spot. The argument "do I believe X wins with town? No" Should ALWAYS be followed by "thus I want to lynch X," yet we see here that miraculously DP has somehow come to the conclusion that we should not lynch this nontown player. I don't believe DP is stupid enough as town to do this, so he must be scum.
No. that is bullshit. there are situations were it is in the best interest for town to work with third party. namely, when town is in the shit. At the moment lynching 'not town' doesn't cut it. We need to lynch mafia. and if you were town you would understand that.
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On March 27 2013 13:50 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 13:47 RyuSuzaku wrote:On March 27 2013 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:On March 27 2013 13:41 kitaman27 wrote:On March 27 2013 13:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
So a Dreamer?
Can you confirm that you die if cosmic does, because that's not what your last post makes it seem like. Their fake claims don't even line up. cosmic claims that when one of them dies, they both die. layabout claims that he was town, was converted to third party, and would be converted back to town if cosmic dies. generally Mafia fake claims do not have all the perceived inconsistencies that this claim has. This claim makes no sense for scum. It makes sense for third party. Do I think that they win with town. NO. But I believe that they realise that without their help town loses. So for the moment it is in our mutual interest to work together. this is scum logic. Who claims 3 hours before deadline to save themselves? Scum. Who paddles back and forth between calling someone scum and voting someone else to simply live? Scum. Scum most probably has found an opportunity to win with mislynching town today. If scum lynches town and there are still 2 KP left then we're in a very bad spot. The argument "do I believe X wins with town? No" Should ALWAYS be followed by "thus I want to lynch X," yet we see here that miraculously DP has somehow come to the conclusion that we should not lynch this nontown player. I don't believe DP is stupid enough as town to do this, so he must be scum. No. that is bullshit. there are situations were it is in the best interest for town to work with third party. namely, when town is in the shit. At the moment lynching 'not town' doesn't cut it. We need to lynch mafia. and if you were town you would understand that.
false.
At any point where town can win, the only time it doesn't matter who you side with is when you've already lost, aka kingmaker.
In all other situations it's optimal to lynch CONFIRMED NONTOWN.
You are not this stupid, and if you truly are then in postgame I will make sure everyone knows how much of a noob you are.
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If I live through the night, and we aren't end gamed I promise I will put in the effort to win the game for us. I do feel bad about my inactivity and while a good bit of it was apathy a lot of it was players like BH just ruining the game with their abhorrent playstyle. Between him and Mocsta posting the way they were I just stopped caring.
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On March 27 2013 13:51 RyuSuzaku wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 13:50 DarthPunk wrote:On March 27 2013 13:47 RyuSuzaku wrote:On March 27 2013 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:On March 27 2013 13:41 kitaman27 wrote:On March 27 2013 13:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
So a Dreamer?
Can you confirm that you die if cosmic does, because that's not what your last post makes it seem like. Their fake claims don't even line up. cosmic claims that when one of them dies, they both die. layabout claims that he was town, was converted to third party, and would be converted back to town if cosmic dies. generally Mafia fake claims do not have all the perceived inconsistencies that this claim has. This claim makes no sense for scum. It makes sense for third party. Do I think that they win with town. NO. But I believe that they realise that without their help town loses. So for the moment it is in our mutual interest to work together. this is scum logic. Who claims 3 hours before deadline to save themselves? Scum. Who paddles back and forth between calling someone scum and voting someone else to simply live? Scum. Scum most probably has found an opportunity to win with mislynching town today. If scum lynches town and there are still 2 KP left then we're in a very bad spot. The argument "do I believe X wins with town? No" Should ALWAYS be followed by "thus I want to lynch X," yet we see here that miraculously DP has somehow come to the conclusion that we should not lynch this nontown player. I don't believe DP is stupid enough as town to do this, so he must be scum. No. that is bullshit. there are situations were it is in the best interest for town to work with third party. namely, when town is in the shit. At the moment lynching 'not town' doesn't cut it. We need to lynch mafia. and if you were town you would understand that. false. At any point where town can win, the only time it doesn't matter who you side with is when you've already lost, aka kingmaker. In all other situations it's optimal to lynch CONFIRMED NONTOWN. You are not this stupid, and if you truly are then in postgame I will make sure everyone knows how much of a noob you are.
Sorry dude, you're wrong this time.
Mafia absolutely needs to die today BECAUSE THEY LOSE A KP.
Now how exactly will you be proving that DP is a noob?
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On March 27 2013 13:51 RyuSuzaku wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 13:50 DarthPunk wrote:On March 27 2013 13:47 RyuSuzaku wrote:On March 27 2013 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:On March 27 2013 13:41 kitaman27 wrote:On March 27 2013 13:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
So a Dreamer?
Can you confirm that you die if cosmic does, because that's not what your last post makes it seem like. Their fake claims don't even line up. cosmic claims that when one of them dies, they both die. layabout claims that he was town, was converted to third party, and would be converted back to town if cosmic dies. generally Mafia fake claims do not have all the perceived inconsistencies that this claim has. This claim makes no sense for scum. It makes sense for third party. Do I think that they win with town. NO. But I believe that they realise that without their help town loses. So for the moment it is in our mutual interest to work together. this is scum logic. Who claims 3 hours before deadline to save themselves? Scum. Who paddles back and forth between calling someone scum and voting someone else to simply live? Scum. Scum most probably has found an opportunity to win with mislynching town today. If scum lynches town and there are still 2 KP left then we're in a very bad spot. The argument "do I believe X wins with town? No" Should ALWAYS be followed by "thus I want to lynch X," yet we see here that miraculously DP has somehow come to the conclusion that we should not lynch this nontown player. I don't believe DP is stupid enough as town to do this, so he must be scum. No. that is bullshit. there are situations were it is in the best interest for town to work with third party. namely, when town is in the shit. At the moment lynching 'not town' doesn't cut it. We need to lynch mafia. and if you were town you would understand that. false. At any point where town can win, the only time it doesn't matter who you side with is when you've already lost, aka kingmaker. In all other situations it's optimal to lynch CONFIRMED NONTOWN. You are not this stupid, and if you truly are then in postgame I will make sure everyone knows how much of a noob you are.
Obviously I am this stupid. If you are going to call me a noob at least do it without the veil of anonymity to hide behind.
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On March 27 2013 13:53 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 13:51 RyuSuzaku wrote:On March 27 2013 13:50 DarthPunk wrote:On March 27 2013 13:47 RyuSuzaku wrote:On March 27 2013 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:On March 27 2013 13:41 kitaman27 wrote:On March 27 2013 13:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
So a Dreamer?
Can you confirm that you die if cosmic does, because that's not what your last post makes it seem like. Their fake claims don't even line up. cosmic claims that when one of them dies, they both die. layabout claims that he was town, was converted to third party, and would be converted back to town if cosmic dies. generally Mafia fake claims do not have all the perceived inconsistencies that this claim has. This claim makes no sense for scum. It makes sense for third party. Do I think that they win with town. NO. But I believe that they realise that without their help town loses. So for the moment it is in our mutual interest to work together. this is scum logic. Who claims 3 hours before deadline to save themselves? Scum. Who paddles back and forth between calling someone scum and voting someone else to simply live? Scum. Scum most probably has found an opportunity to win with mislynching town today. If scum lynches town and there are still 2 KP left then we're in a very bad spot. The argument "do I believe X wins with town? No" Should ALWAYS be followed by "thus I want to lynch X," yet we see here that miraculously DP has somehow come to the conclusion that we should not lynch this nontown player. I don't believe DP is stupid enough as town to do this, so he must be scum. No. that is bullshit. there are situations were it is in the best interest for town to work with third party. namely, when town is in the shit. At the moment lynching 'not town' doesn't cut it. We need to lynch mafia. and if you were town you would understand that. false. At any point where town can win, the only time it doesn't matter who you side with is when you've already lost, aka kingmaker. In all other situations it's optimal to lynch CONFIRMED NONTOWN. You are not this stupid, and if you truly are then in postgame I will make sure everyone knows how much of a noob you are. Sorry dude, you're wrong this time. Mafia absolutely needs to die today BECAUSE THEY LOSE A KP. Now how exactly will you be proving that DP is a noob?
what the fuck are you talking about, we don't even know mafia counts.
1 mafia is dead, if mafia count is 5 and KP is rounded up then we need to kill TWO mafia to reduce KP.
Unless, of course, you know more than I do.
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On March 27 2013 13:48 RyuSuzaku wrote:
I AM PUSHING A PRO-MAFIA AGENDA
PLEASE DONT THINK CRITICALLY
On March 27 2013 13:49 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 13:44 layabout wrote:
TPS uses his greencheck to help mafia win.
TPS is probaly the ___father. This is scummy as hell layabout. I've been saying shit like this all game but at the same time saying I still have to assume he's green for now. You bring this up right as all the chaos is going down regarding your 3rd party wincons and late-day lynch targeting? The only reason I could think to bring up another possible lynch target right now is to misdirect. This does make it seem like you're trying to cause chaos. Thank you for answering my questions though.
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voting for me is voting for not-mafia and let's cosmic the not-mafia die and benefits mafia by giving them lylos and mylos until the end
changing my vote
Give me a mafia lynch to wake up to.
##vote Kitaman27
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On March 27 2013 13:54 RyuSuzaku wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 13:53 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 27 2013 13:51 RyuSuzaku wrote:On March 27 2013 13:50 DarthPunk wrote:On March 27 2013 13:47 RyuSuzaku wrote:On March 27 2013 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:On March 27 2013 13:41 kitaman27 wrote:On March 27 2013 13:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
So a Dreamer?
Can you confirm that you die if cosmic does, because that's not what your last post makes it seem like. Their fake claims don't even line up. cosmic claims that when one of them dies, they both die. layabout claims that he was town, was converted to third party, and would be converted back to town if cosmic dies. generally Mafia fake claims do not have all the perceived inconsistencies that this claim has. This claim makes no sense for scum. It makes sense for third party. Do I think that they win with town. NO. But I believe that they realise that without their help town loses. So for the moment it is in our mutual interest to work together. this is scum logic. Who claims 3 hours before deadline to save themselves? Scum. Who paddles back and forth between calling someone scum and voting someone else to simply live? Scum. Scum most probably has found an opportunity to win with mislynching town today. If scum lynches town and there are still 2 KP left then we're in a very bad spot. The argument "do I believe X wins with town? No" Should ALWAYS be followed by "thus I want to lynch X," yet we see here that miraculously DP has somehow come to the conclusion that we should not lynch this nontown player. I don't believe DP is stupid enough as town to do this, so he must be scum. No. that is bullshit. there are situations were it is in the best interest for town to work with third party. namely, when town is in the shit. At the moment lynching 'not town' doesn't cut it. We need to lynch mafia. and if you were town you would understand that. false. At any point where town can win, the only time it doesn't matter who you side with is when you've already lost, aka kingmaker. In all other situations it's optimal to lynch CONFIRMED NONTOWN. You are not this stupid, and if you truly are then in postgame I will make sure everyone knows how much of a noob you are. Sorry dude, you're wrong this time. Mafia absolutely needs to die today BECAUSE THEY LOSE A KP. Now how exactly will you be proving that DP is a noob? what the fuck are you talking about, we don't even know mafia counts. 1 mafia is dead, if mafia count is 5 and KP is rounded up then we need to kill TWO mafia to reduce KP. Unless, of course, you know more than I do.
no. because if that was the case we lost a kp night one for no reason.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
Anyone find it amusing how cosmic and layabout had DarthPunk as their number one scum read, then DarthPunk suddenly decides to vote me, and they don't blink an eye swapping back to vote with their mafia read?
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+ Show Spoiler +TPS do you plan on revealing yourself at any point during the game or postgame?
Unrelated really because I already asked you this in an earlier post, but this 'spammy playstyle' is all I've known and I've never heard anyone else complain about it before now.
I see where it creates problems especially for people who can't be available a lot, but there have been quite a few players who haven't done much this game and written just a few long posts/cases per day and still been somewhat effective (ie You/Wriggles getting Ace lynched. 'Effective being you accomplished that goal, to what ends in your case we don't know for sure of course).
I just don't see how it's possible in a huge game like this to post less and still be effectively arguing a case, especially when the action is extremely heavy like right now. Maybe you're just referring to spam-posting when there's nothing else going on? In which I'd say I'm not sure that even really effects anything since those posts are mostly spam and can be skipped in a filter...but I digress.
TPS can you give us a little more to go on before you disappear? Any other scumreads and why?
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On March 27 2013 13:56 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 13:54 RyuSuzaku wrote:On March 27 2013 13:53 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 27 2013 13:51 RyuSuzaku wrote:On March 27 2013 13:50 DarthPunk wrote:On March 27 2013 13:47 RyuSuzaku wrote:On March 27 2013 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:On March 27 2013 13:41 kitaman27 wrote:On March 27 2013 13:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
So a Dreamer?
Can you confirm that you die if cosmic does, because that's not what your last post makes it seem like. Their fake claims don't even line up. cosmic claims that when one of them dies, they both die. layabout claims that he was town, was converted to third party, and would be converted back to town if cosmic dies. generally Mafia fake claims do not have all the perceived inconsistencies that this claim has. This claim makes no sense for scum. It makes sense for third party. Do I think that they win with town. NO. But I believe that they realise that without their help town loses. So for the moment it is in our mutual interest to work together. this is scum logic. Who claims 3 hours before deadline to save themselves? Scum. Who paddles back and forth between calling someone scum and voting someone else to simply live? Scum. Scum most probably has found an opportunity to win with mislynching town today. If scum lynches town and there are still 2 KP left then we're in a very bad spot. The argument "do I believe X wins with town? No" Should ALWAYS be followed by "thus I want to lynch X," yet we see here that miraculously DP has somehow come to the conclusion that we should not lynch this nontown player. I don't believe DP is stupid enough as town to do this, so he must be scum. No. that is bullshit. there are situations were it is in the best interest for town to work with third party. namely, when town is in the shit. At the moment lynching 'not town' doesn't cut it. We need to lynch mafia. and if you were town you would understand that. false. At any point where town can win, the only time it doesn't matter who you side with is when you've already lost, aka kingmaker. In all other situations it's optimal to lynch CONFIRMED NONTOWN. You are not this stupid, and if you truly are then in postgame I will make sure everyone knows how much of a noob you are. Sorry dude, you're wrong this time. Mafia absolutely needs to die today BECAUSE THEY LOSE A KP. Now how exactly will you be proving that DP is a noob? what the fuck are you talking about, we don't even know mafia counts. 1 mafia is dead, if mafia count is 5 and KP is rounded up then we need to kill TWO mafia to reduce KP. Unless, of course, you know more than I do. no. because if that was the case we lost a kp night one for no reason.
LOL guess you're not reading the thread.
Remember when VE THE VET flipped last night? He claimed a shot night 1. Jesus.
There was 2 KP last night, and we can reasonably assume there was 2 KP on n2 given that 4 players died and we can trace that to TPS and probably Vivax.
Which means SCUM PROBABLY HAVE 2 KP.
Fucking christ if you are town this is mind numbing.
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Ryu, rounded down bro.
I've literally posted this like 3 times and people like you and Geript constantly seem to be ignoring it.
Use your brain.
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On March 27 2013 13:57 kitaman27 wrote:
Anyone find it amusing how cosmic and layabout had DarthPunk as their number one scum read, then DarthPunk suddenly decides to vote me, and they don't blink an eye swapping back to vote with their mafia read?
I was being exceptionally useless. Then I ceased to be useless and they changed their mind. That is not scummy.
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On March 27 2013 13:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ryu, rounded down bro.
I've literally posted this like 3 times and people like you and Geript constantly seem to be ignoring it.
Use your brain.
so you're making an assumption about the setup, or you know more than I do.
Every normal I've ever played has been rounded up.
So, are you claiming scum?
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On March 27 2013 13:58 RyuSuzaku wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 13:56 DarthPunk wrote:On March 27 2013 13:54 RyuSuzaku wrote:On March 27 2013 13:53 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 27 2013 13:51 RyuSuzaku wrote:On March 27 2013 13:50 DarthPunk wrote:On March 27 2013 13:47 RyuSuzaku wrote:On March 27 2013 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:On March 27 2013 13:41 kitaman27 wrote:On March 27 2013 13:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
So a Dreamer?
Can you confirm that you die if cosmic does, because that's not what your last post makes it seem like. Their fake claims don't even line up. cosmic claims that when one of them dies, they both die. layabout claims that he was town, was converted to third party, and would be converted back to town if cosmic dies. generally Mafia fake claims do not have all the perceived inconsistencies that this claim has. This claim makes no sense for scum. It makes sense for third party. Do I think that they win with town. NO. But I believe that they realise that without their help town loses. So for the moment it is in our mutual interest to work together. this is scum logic. Who claims 3 hours before deadline to save themselves? Scum. Who paddles back and forth between calling someone scum and voting someone else to simply live? Scum. Scum most probably has found an opportunity to win with mislynching town today. If scum lynches town and there are still 2 KP left then we're in a very bad spot. The argument "do I believe X wins with town? No" Should ALWAYS be followed by "thus I want to lynch X," yet we see here that miraculously DP has somehow come to the conclusion that we should not lynch this nontown player. I don't believe DP is stupid enough as town to do this, so he must be scum. No. that is bullshit. there are situations were it is in the best interest for town to work with third party. namely, when town is in the shit. At the moment lynching 'not town' doesn't cut it. We need to lynch mafia. and if you were town you would understand that. false. At any point where town can win, the only time it doesn't matter who you side with is when you've already lost, aka kingmaker. In all other situations it's optimal to lynch CONFIRMED NONTOWN. You are not this stupid, and if you truly are then in postgame I will make sure everyone knows how much of a noob you are. Sorry dude, you're wrong this time. Mafia absolutely needs to die today BECAUSE THEY LOSE A KP. Now how exactly will you be proving that DP is a noob? what the fuck are you talking about, we don't even know mafia counts. 1 mafia is dead, if mafia count is 5 and KP is rounded up then we need to kill TWO mafia to reduce KP. Unless, of course, you know more than I do. no. because if that was the case we lost a kp night one for no reason. LOL guess you're not reading the thread. Remember when VE THE VET flipped last night? He claimed a shot night 1. Jesus. There was 2 KP last night, and we can reasonably assume there was 2 KP on n2 given that 4 players died and we can trace that to TPS and probably Vivax. Which means SCUM PROBABLY HAVE 2 KP. Fucking christ if you are town this is mind numbing.
you KNOW I am town.
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