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RyuSuzaku
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On March 27 2013 14:00 RyuSuzaku wrote: so you're making an assumption about the setup, or you know more than I do. Every normal I've ever played has been rounded up. So, are you claiming scum? you are ALSO speculating on the setup. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On March 27 2013 14:01 WaveofShadow wrote: Yes, I'm making an assumption about the setup. Where did the KP go night 1 if they had 3 to start? This. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
If Darth is right, then we have have 1-2 scum in the bag regardless and using standard X/2 KP then it'd go (starting 7-4-2) something like 5-4, 5-3, 4-3, 4-2; in 8-3-2 then hitting 3P is perfectly fine as at worst we'd be at MYLO tomorrow. Considering our start, I don't think that's too much to ask for. If we keep them around, then it's what... lik 7-3-2 or 6-4-2 or 8-2-2. If we lynch scum in Kita/Ryu then it's like 6-2-2 as of tomorrow or similar. We still don't get to trust Cosmic/Laya. I'm not seeing a major difference either way as all this does imo is make it harder to lynch confirmed non-town. If Kita is right, then there's no reason to go from 9-4 or 8-5 into a mislynch. I could see scum pulling something like this in this type of situation; anything to not get lynched right? In fact, was it discussed some last game or maybe in NMM38 or somewhere? Honestly, right now I couldn't care less what it is. The town presumes it has a rolecop and we likely have 1-2 vets to give reads throughout the night. I'd rather clear a threat now as I'm not seeing the numbers difference off the top of my head as even if we do lynch scum today, 3P likely pushes mislynch tomorrow. | ||
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RyuSuzaku
Japan139 Posts
On March 27 2013 14:01 WaveofShadow wrote: Yes, I'm making an assumption about the setup. Where did the KP go night 1 if they had 3 to start? How do we know they had 3 to start??! They could have 4 members, they could have 5 members and double stacked keirathi, they could have a recruiter for all we know. Same goes for the supposed missing roleblock. Making assumptions of the setup is a great way to lose the game even faster than we're losing already. says the guy who claims that there was a KP missing n1 | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On March 27 2013 13:53 WaveofShadow wrote: Sorry dude, you're wrong this time. Mafia absolutely needs to die today BECAUSE THEY LOSE A KP. Now how exactly will you be proving that DP is a noob? For the last time, HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS? Any setup speculation is just that speculation. We don't know shit. I'm also pretty sure that the numbers work out either way. Anyways, I really need to sleep because I can't be late. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On March 27 2013 14:05 RyuSuzaku wrote: How do we know they had 3 to start??! They could have 4 members, they could have 5 members and double stacked keirathi, they could have a recruiter for all we know. Same goes for the supposed missing roleblock. Making assumptions of the setup is a great way to lose the game even faster than we're losing already. says the guy who claims that there was a KP missing n1 There is only kp missing working under your assumption that there was 5 scum and KP is rounded up. I don;t believe a kp was missing. Therefore I don;t believe your assumption. God you are claiming scum so hard right now. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On March 27 2013 14:05 geript wrote: For the last time, HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS? Any setup speculation is just that speculation. We don't know shit. I'm also pretty sure that the numbers work out either way. Anyways, I really need to sleep because I can't be late. Please vote kita. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
# of mafia = sqrt(# of players) Assuming we have 3rd party reducing town numbers, a 6th mafia member would severely tip the balance in mafia favour. | ||
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TestSubject893
United States774 Posts
On March 27 2013 14:05 geript wrote: For the last time, HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS? Any setup speculation is just that speculation. We don't know shit. I'm also pretty sure that the numbers work out either way. Anyways, I really need to sleep because I can't be late. He know's 'cause he's scum, of course. The more I think about it the more I'm not buying comic's claim. Why would he act like he was recruiting VE D2 if he had already used his recruitment D1? We aren't getting all the details of his role and that means he's either a danger to us or is lying and has risked the life of his scum buddy to do so. I think we stick to our guns and kill cosmic today. I'm thinking its actually just a gambit my mafia. ##Unvote: WaveofShadow ##Vote: cosmicomics | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
We just need a strong enough likelihood of hitting said mafia, which I believe as a town we are working on. | ||
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ThePeashooter
United States100 Posts
On March 27 2013 13:57 WaveofShadow wrote: + Show Spoiler + TPS do you plan on revealing yourself at any point during the game or postgame? Unrelated really because I already asked you this in an earlier post, but this 'spammy playstyle' is all I've known and I've never heard anyone else complain about it before now. I see where it creates problems especially for people who can't be available a lot, but there have been quite a few players who haven't done much this game and written just a few long posts/cases per day and still been somewhat effective (ie You/Wriggles getting Ace lynched. 'Effective being you accomplished that goal, to what ends in your case we don't know for sure of course). I just don't see how it's possible in a huge game like this to post less and still be effectively arguing a case, especially when the action is extremely heavy like right now. Maybe you're just referring to spam-posting when there's nothing else going on? In which I'd say I'm not sure that even really effects anything since those posts are mostly spam and can be skipped in a filter...but I digress. TPS can you give us a little more to go on before you disappear? Any other scumreads and why? I don't plan on revealing anything. Only maybe 2-3 people actually know who I am on this account and I intend on leaving it that way. There used to be a point in time where most players would put more thought into the huge majority of posts. You still had players like Kenpachi who sign up and do little/nothing, but they were in the huge minority. I will say certain players devolved the game into what it is now. I guess for some people it can still be fun, but I just can't bear to read 120 pages of bullshit and most other people can't either. There is players that just post, and post, and post without any real thought you have pages where at best you can look for some stupid slip among 30 posts which is just boring. I'm not going to pretend I was ever super good, or even that I am super good, because on my best day I am still mediocre. I used to be able to actually read games and enjoy myself then post constructively from day one and get reads on all the players. Now I look at someone like BH's filter and while I get a general vibe of their play from reading the game I see a 12, 15, 20 page filter filled with shit and I just can't bring myself to spend my leisure time delving into something I completely despise. As for scumreads, I don't really have anything besides kneejerks. I remember reading Wiggles as town at some point, and the same for kita. I've read the game and am still current but I haven't truly analyzed the game for the last 70 pages. I remember meaning to look into Geript/LayAbout for probably around 3-5 actual days (not game days) now and just not having the time due to personal constraints. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Ryu, question. If you believe cosmic and layabout are scum, and you seem to believe DP is as well, do you really think that 2/4 of the remaining scum would all be the first to jump on a wagon against kita? The other interesting thing to note about that is cosmic and layabout are not coalescing their votes onto the same target; they pick out kita and DP, which leads me to believe they are attempting to hedge their bets/protect someone. | ||
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RyuSuzaku
Japan139 Posts
On March 27 2013 14:19 WaveofShadow wrote: Thanks TPS. Ryu, question. If you believe cosmic and layabout are scum, and you seem to believe DP is as well, do you really think that 2/4 of the remaining scum would all be the first to jump on a wagon against kita? The other interesting thing to note about that is cosmic and layabout are not coalescing their votes onto the same target; they pick out kita and DP, which leads me to believe they are attempting to hedge their bets/protect someone. yes. Look at how many players we've lost, we've only killed one scum. I think that if they get a mislynch now and one tomorrow we've probably lost. Also, it makes sense with regard to how they reacted to the situation. Their votes and stories have not stayed consistent. I would expect them to stay consistent if they were truly third party or town who are interested in defeating mafia with town. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On March 27 2013 14:25 RyuSuzaku wrote: yes. Look at how many players we've lost, we've only killed one scum. I think that if they get a mislynch now and one tomorrow we've probably lost. Also, it makes sense with regard to how they reacted to the situation. Their votes and stories have not stayed consistent. I would expect them to stay consistent if they were truly third party or town who are interested in defeating mafia with town. god you are full of it. | ||
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ThePeashooter
United States100 Posts
I feel like I had another thing but my mind is drawing blanks, so I'm off to bed. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On March 27 2013 14:38 ThePeashooter wrote: One last thing before I go to bed. I would imagine the mafia are a much larger threat than the third party right now. I would keep that in mind with those saying we need to lynch the third party. To the mafia that's just one person closer to their objective of outnumbering the town, this is even more true if one death means multiple third party people die. I feel like I had another thing but my mind is drawing blanks, so I'm off to bed. IF YOU BELIEVE THAT VOTE KITA! | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On March 27 2013 14:38 ThePeashooter wrote: One last thing before I go to bed. I would imagine the mafia are a much larger threat than the third party right now. I would keep that in mind with those saying we need to lynch the third party. To the mafia that's just one person closer to their objective of outnumbering the town, this is even more true if one death means multiple third party people die. I feel like I had another thing but my mind is drawing blanks, so I'm off to bed. I agree with this, but if you believe this and you haven't changed your vote it means you believe cc and layabout are lying and are scum rather than 3rd party? I'm not sure this makes sense...? | ||
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RyuSuzaku
Japan139 Posts
On March 27 2013 14:08 DarthPunk wrote: There is only kp missing working under your assumption that there was 5 scum and KP is rounded up. I don;t believe a kp was missing. Therefore I don;t believe your assumption. God you are claiming scum so hard right now. I haven't made any assumption. Now you're twisting words. I already explained that if there were 5 scum and 3 kp, that it could have been used for DSing. Or, they have 2 KP and a recruiter. Or, they have 2 KP and other roles to make up for it (e.g. the mason) I am not the one making assumptions here. There are more possibilities than simply the one you are suggesting. You are the scum for knowing how the KP works and then trying to use that to make me look bad. | ||
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