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Pretty sure kita is still prime lynch here, with his deflection onto me I can only assume I'm seeing something which everyone else is missing.
Kurumi died last night due to the wager.
If Kurumi was scum, he would've chosen me and killed me knowing I'd pick share. Reason? I told him to so that I could tell him which side I was on. That would mean that Kurumi would get a free kill during the night with little risk of being revealed.
If Kurumi was town, he still could have picked me there and if he passes there, and I was scum, I would pick either Kill or Pass. If I pick pass, Kurumi would pick up that something was off since I said I'd share. If I picked kill, the same thing that happened to Kita would happen. I would be exposed as the one who killed Kurumi.
What actually happened during the night was that he decided to pick Kita as his target and he passed.
If Kita is scum - he knows that Kurumi isn't scum and so he could get a free kill, best case where Kurumi wishes to share which side he is on. That gives him high motivation to kill.
If Kita is town - he doesn't know if Kuru is town or scum. In this case, the best option would be to pass on both suspicions. As I said above, if Kurumi was scum, he wouldn't have done the whole 'I don't trust you' speech to me, and selected me because he knew I was going to share. This makes it a lot less likely he was scum. Thus given that there was a high chance he was town, town doesn't pick someone to select Kill on unless he had a read on them. This was also unlikely as he never made any mention of it whatsoever in any of the posts. If he had suspected Kita of being scum, why was he voting fo rthe same person as the suspect? It doesn't add up.
Thus, if Kita was town, the correct move would've been to pass or share, with pass being the safer option in the case Kuru WAS scum because he'd be exposed as scum pretty much instantly.
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Wazzup, finally back from a day of bangin bitches and acquiring elos.
Still catching up a bit, but after first initial read through:
I liked austin's case on kitaman. It's a shame poor austin died and can't follow up with it. Out of all the players in this game, kita is probably the one I know the most. And this game certainly does NOT feel like town kita play (I'm lookin at you, Madame Pomfrey). [For the record, I hate reads based off of meta, but this just feels so far outside of kita's town play that I felt it's worth mentioning.]
Syl's filter is really bad, and I would not be opposed to a lynch on him today.
As much as I hate to admit it, I'm feeling like Dandelion is more than likely town this game. Thus I wouldn't completely mind electing him as CiC.
If you're looking for a military adviser, I would not be opposed to nominating myself for that position. I realize I fucked up with letting BH fall with Oats, but if you guys were in my position of power, with the feeling that BH could be scum, then how would you have handled it? However, after it was apparent that things had gone south, I made no hesitation to claim that it was, indeed, my fault. If you guys can find it in your hearts to trust me as the adviser, I will, once again, make no hesitation to disclose the information that I have to you, the town.
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Sylencia, I don't quite follow.
I'm pretty sure share is the correct option to pick as town, as opposed to pass. Pass doesn't announce the killer.
C'mon even I remember that. And I didn't even make the role.
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On February 17 2013 12:21 Sylencia wrote:
Pretty sure kita is still prime lynch here, with his deflection onto me I can only assume I'm seeing something which everyone else is missing.
Kurumi died last night due to the wager.
If Kurumi was scum, he would've chosen me and killed me knowing I'd pick share. Reason? I told him to so that I could tell him which side I was on. That would mean that Kurumi would get a free kill during the night with little risk of being revealed.
If Kurumi was town, he still could have picked me there and if he passes there, and I was scum, I would pick either Kill or Pass. If I pick pass, Kurumi would pick up that something was off since I said I'd share. If I picked kill, the same thing that happened to Kita would happen. I would be exposed as the one who killed Kurumi.
What actually happened during the night was that he decided to pick Kita as his target and he passed.
If Kita is scum - he knows that Kurumi isn't scum and so he could get a free kill, best case where Kurumi wishes to share which side he is on. That gives him high motivation to kill.
If Kita is town - he doesn't know if Kuru is town or scum. In this case, the best option would be to pass on both suspicions. As I said above, if Kurumi was scum, he wouldn't have done the whole 'I don't trust you' speech to me, and selected me because he knew I was going to share. This makes it a lot less likely he was scum. Thus given that there was a high chance he was town, town doesn't pick someone to select Kill on unless he had a read on them. This was also unlikely as he never made any mention of it whatsoever in any of the posts. If he had suspected Kita of being scum, why was he voting fo rthe same person as the suspect? It doesn't add up.
Thus, if Kita was town, the correct move would've been to pass or share, with pass being the safer option in the case Kuru WAS scum because he'd be exposed as scum pretty much instantly.
Why are you lying about the role you created? That's not how it works.
- If both players select the same option, nothing happens.
- If one player picks "Share Information" and the other picks "Pass", the player picking "Pass" gets privately informed of the other player's alignment.
- If one player picks "Share Information" and the other picks "Kill Opponent", the player picking "Kill Opponent" will kill the other player, but the kill announcement will reveal the killer.
- If one player picks "Pass" and the other picks "Kill Opponent", the player picking "Kill Opponent" will kill the other player, but there will be no reveal regarding the killer.
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On February 17 2013 12:25 jcarlsoniv wrote:
As much as I hate to admit it, I'm feeling like Dandelion is more than likely town this game.
Oh phuleeeze, you actually love me. Deep down. Maybe very deep. But still
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Now stop apologizing for killing the towniest player in the game and tell me how much you want to sheep my sick case on gonzaw.
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On February 17 2013 12:32 Dandel Ion wrote:
Now stop apologizing for killing the towniest player in the game and tell me how much you want to sheep my sick case on gonzaw.
He was clearly NOT the towniest player in the game.
And your case...bleh, idk, gotta reread some things. Reserving my vote(s) for now.
We in a shitty spot, not sure what direction we need to take.
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How you feel about marv/iamp right now?
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iamp is null leaning town and marv is null leaning scum.
Don't really wanna lynch either today. Tho I'm always up for lynching marv, in general.
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On February 17 2013 12:28 Dandel Ion wrote:
Sylencia, I don't quite follow.
I'm pretty sure share is the correct option to pick as town, as opposed to pass. Pass doesn't announce the killer.
C'mon even I remember that. And I didn't even make the role.
Hm, yes seems like I've mixed myself up =\
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Urgh, I thought I had it worked out as well - now the majority of what I just said doesn't even make any sense ==;;
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It would have been a better argument if you'd done it right in the first place, since share is like THE townie option to take.
Since you don't mind people knowing your alignment and stuff.
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Yeah, given I mixed them up, having townie needing to share makes it more compelling that it was not a town oriented move to kill. The original case I said that pass was the move because I was considering the open reveal as a fallback plan, but since I apparently don't even know my own role I made, sharing has no downside for a townie :\
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marvel baby you approve of this sylencia lynch?
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On February 17 2013 13:52 iamperfection wrote:
marvel baby you approve of this sylencia lynch?
Hello scamp. I would prefer to eject gonzaw considerably more than Sylencia. In large part because I do not trust kita's intentions.
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I would rather lynch kita than sylencia.
Just saying.
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I think Kurumi's death deserves a kita lynch. We know for sure Kita wanted to kill Kurumi there. I don't think there's much more to add. He could have opted for guessing his alignment instead.
Take this with a grain of salt since I've still lots to read, but Kita lynch doesn't look disputable to me.
Don't want to elect marv or Dandel.
##Vote Kitaman
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Gonzaw, who did you poison?
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EPT
