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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 17 2013 16:03 GMT
#1301
On February 18 2013 01:01 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 00:49 Dandel Ion wrote:
On February 18 2013 00:45 kitaman27 wrote:
So let me get this straight Dandel, am I a scum player busing syl or do you have a town read on syl?

I will have to blindly assume syl is town for as long as I think you are scum. Doesn't look like a bus imo.

I'm still firmly null on him.


Fine you're null.
Vivax and Cheese haven't commented.
gonzaw is in favor of lynching sylencia
marv thinks sylencia is scum
stutters is suspcious of sylencia
kita wants to lynch sylencia
iamimp wants to lynch sylencia
jcarl supports a sylencia lynch
crossfire is willing to lynch sylencia

If seven players support a sylencia lynch and nobody thinks sylencia is town, why am I leading the lynch count right now?

Imagine if sylencia was town. The mafia team could simply mislynch him since so many people think he is scum and win the game. Why wouldn't the mafia just push an easy lynch if it were free for the taking?

Instead, sylencia is scum, a bunch of people say they are suspicious of him in case he flips at a later time, but instead vote elsewhere.

The same goes for gonzaw, fyi.

I am switching back to him. Sheep me.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 17 2013 16:06 GMT
#1302
On February 17 2013 23:38 Vivax wrote:
Don't want to elect marv or Dandel.

On February 18 2013 00:54 Vivax wrote:
##Elect Dandel Ion

Anything to say in particular, or did you just plain see the light?
I mean I understand that, it's super obv that I'm town, but it's still a bit quick.

+ Show Spoiler +
Not that I mind
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 17 2013 16:14 GMT
#1303
I'm bored, so I'm gonna do something that requires a minimum amount of effort. Make an actual case that is. I'm such a liar I know.


BEHOLD:

Town gonzaw:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=389088&user=293889
You may subtract ~5 pages of the filter, because of pregame and posts from the other hydra head prome.

Scum gonzaw:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397553&user=237527

You don't even have to read shit, the page numbers alone are sufficient. Tho reading helps too.


Dis sick case brought to you by Dandyman.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 17 2013 16:17 GMT
#1304
On February 18 2013 01:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 00:54 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 18 2013 00:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
Your arguments:
1) I have a role that magically explains everything but I won't claim it.


lol in a game where someone knows my role and can confirm it because they created it, this is the argument you're using?

You said that tho. Don't blame me for the nonsense you say.


But you seem to have no interest in confirming what I say is truth.

You can simply ask: "sup role creator. Is kita correct?"

Instead you say: "lol no, lynch kita"

On February 18 2013 01:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 00:54 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 18 2013 00:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
2) I can't read. (as per: "Nope, you're confusing things again. Share outs me as the killer, not pass. A single kp isn't work a scum lynch")


Just correcting incorrect logic. You can come to your own conclusions about literacy.


Read this again and tell me the incorrect part in detail: "good chance of doing so without outing me, if he passes to learn my alignment"


Nevermind, we were saying the same thing there.

That is something that could happen, but in that scenario a scum kita would choose pass. By choosing shoot there is a chance that a scum kita gets lynched after the flip. By choosing pass, nothing happens and there is absolutely no risk.

On February 18 2013 01:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 00:54 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 18 2013 00:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
3) I couldn't post, but I could send in my nightactions.


Did I post? Go back the last 30 games I've played and find me a game where I skipped an entire cycle posting. This argument doesn't even work. Kurumi didn't post anything about the role either as town, yet that obviously doesn't make him scum.

Sure he did. quite early, too.
He didn't have to say more, since he wasn't planning on, you know, killing shit.
[/quote]

As I said before, its only obvious after being pointed out. No one else picked up on it besides the role creator, so I'm not alone.

On February 18 2013 01:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 00:54 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 18 2013 00:24 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 18 2013 00:18 Dandel Ion wrote:
But you were too afraid of dying. Too afraid for a townie to be. u scum son.


In fact, that was the exact argument I used earlier for shooting kurumi. He refused to check syl because he was TOO AFRAID OF DYING. How come you're ignoring this?


No response to this post? You're using the same reason for wanting to lynch me as I was to shoot kurumi.

No. You choose to reduce it to such to make it sound trivial, but that doesn't make it true.


I chose to reduce it?

On February 16 2013 12:29 kitaman27 wrote:
I thought kurumi was focusing way too much on not wanting to risk his own life for town.


Does this get any clearer? What is there to reduce?

What happened to gonzaw? At lylo I suddenly become your number one scum read now that my lynch has gained traction? Does all of the reasons gonzaw was scum no longer apply?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 17 2013 16:17 GMT
#1305
On February 18 2013 01:17 kitaman27 wrote:
What happened to gonzaw? At lylo I suddenly become your number one scum read now that my lynch has gained traction? Does all of the reasons gonzaw was scum no longer apply?


Ninja'd
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 17 2013 16:27 GMT
#1306
On February 18 2013 01:17 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 01:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
On February 18 2013 00:54 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 18 2013 00:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
Your arguments:
1) I have a role that magically explains everything but I won't claim it.


lol in a game where someone knows my role and can confirm it because they created it, this is the argument you're using?

You said that tho. Don't blame me for the nonsense you say.


But you seem to have no interest in confirming what I say is truth.

You can simply ask: "sup role creator. Is kita correct?"

Instead you say: "lol no, lynch kita"

I would hope your rolecreator to have the brains to do it if it is applicable and helpful.
You know who it is?

On February 18 2013 01:17 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 01:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
On February 18 2013 00:54 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 18 2013 00:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
2) I can't read. (as per: "Nope, you're confusing things again. Share outs me as the killer, not pass. A single kp isn't work a scum lynch")


Just correcting incorrect logic. You can come to your own conclusions about literacy.


Read this again and tell me the incorrect part in detail: "good chance of doing so without outing me, if he passes to learn my alignment"


Nevermind, we were saying the same thing there.

That is something that could happen, but in that scenario a scum kita would choose pass. By choosing shoot there is a chance that a scum kita gets lynched after the flip. By choosing pass, nothing happens and there is absolutely no risk.

I am sorry I can't take your word on what scum kita and town kita would do. I'm sure you understand.

On February 18 2013 01:17 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 01:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
On February 18 2013 00:54 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 18 2013 00:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
3) I couldn't post, but I could send in my nightactions.


Did I post? Go back the last 30 games I've played and find me a game where I skipped an entire cycle posting. This argument doesn't even work. Kurumi didn't post anything about the role either as town, yet that obviously doesn't make him scum.

Sure he did. quite early, too.
He didn't have to say more, since he wasn't planning on, you know, killing shit.


As I said before, its only obvious after being pointed out. No one else picked up on it besides the role creator, so I'm not alone.[/quote]
If you had wanted to make an educated choice, you should have looked. Especially since you claim he was a scumread of yours. Not only did you never do anything about that, but it also suggests you did not go through his filter at all.
Which is no good sign.

On February 18 2013 01:17 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 01:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
On February 18 2013 00:54 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 18 2013 00:24 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 18 2013 00:18 Dandel Ion wrote:
But you were too afraid of dying. Too afraid for a townie to be. u scum son.


In fact, that was the exact argument I used earlier for shooting kurumi. He refused to check syl because he was TOO AFRAID OF DYING. How come you're ignoring this?


No response to this post? You're using the same reason for wanting to lynch me as I was to shoot kurumi.

No. You choose to reduce it to such to make it sound trivial, but that doesn't make it true.


I chose to reduce it?

Yes. There is so much more nonsense you have said and done, yet you maintain that this should be the only/biggest point against you, which is untrue.


Or you're talking about only your feelings on kurumi. Then it is still not really ample reason to shoot somebody in the head either.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 17 2013 16:31 GMT
#1307
ah crap screwd up one of the quotes

here:

Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 01:17 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 18 2013 01:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
On February 18 2013 00:54 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 18 2013 00:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
3) I couldn't post, but I could send in my nightactions.


Did I post? Go back the last 30 games I've played and find me a game where I skipped an entire cycle posting. This argument doesn't even work. Kurumi didn't post anything about the role either as town, yet that obviously doesn't make him scum.

Sure he did. quite early, too.
He didn't have to say more, since he wasn't planning on, you know, killing shit.


As I said before, its only obvious after being pointed out. No one else picked up on it besides the role creator, so I'm not alone.

If you had wanted to make an educated choice, you should have looked. Especially since you claim he was a scumread of yours. Not only did you never do anything about that, but it also suggests you did not go through his filter at all.
Which is no good sign.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 17 2013 16:34 GMT
#1308
Not much further.
The pace is good.
Soon the universe will join my efforts. No, our efforts.

Tenacity is of utmost importance. Understanding will be reached in time.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 17 2013 16:44 GMT
#1309
A calling in my soul.
In my bones.

We must not stop this dance of grace and beauty.
Still the partner is of no relevance but a pleasing one has been found. What is joy to one may only be mechanical for the other. The feelings that call from the one are not one of joy yet. But it will become so in time. What time? Not too, I say.

Do they know the path? The steps, yes. But where?
Sure, I cannot be. Sure, I cannot make.

Is the path the goal? If so what about the goal after the path? Irrelevant it may be. Or it may not. Confirmation.
Crossing the finishing line is a step that one needs to take with purpose.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 17 2013 16:47 GMT
#1310
On February 18 2013 01:31 Dandel Ion wrote:
ah crap screwd up one of the quotes

here:
Show nested quote +

On February 18 2013 01:17 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 18 2013 01:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
On February 18 2013 00:54 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 18 2013 00:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
3) I couldn't post, but I could send in my nightactions.


Did I post? Go back the last 30 games I've played and find me a game where I skipped an entire cycle posting. This argument doesn't even work. Kurumi didn't post anything about the role either as town, yet that obviously doesn't make him scum.

Sure he did. quite early, too.
He didn't have to say more, since he wasn't planning on, you know, killing shit.


As I said before, its only obvious after being pointed out. No one else picked up on it besides the role creator, so I'm not alone.

If you had wanted to make an educated choice, you should have looked. Especially since you claim he was a scumread of yours. Not only did you never do anything about that, but it also suggests you did not go through his filter at all.
Which is no good sign.


I most certainly did look. It's obvious that I looked because as I explained in my reasoning of shooting kurumi, that he was scum based on his posts about syl. I just didn't make the connection, which is reasonable considering it was surrounded by nonsense such as Friendship Love, love of tea, loud people, fish in his cereal bowl, riddles, reverse dimensions, and white is white, black is black.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 17 2013 16:49 GMT
#1311
On February 18 2013 01:47 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 01:31 Dandel Ion wrote:
ah crap screwd up one of the quotes

here:

On February 18 2013 01:17 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 18 2013 01:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
On February 18 2013 00:54 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 18 2013 00:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
3) I couldn't post, but I could send in my nightactions.


Did I post? Go back the last 30 games I've played and find me a game where I skipped an entire cycle posting. This argument doesn't even work. Kurumi didn't post anything about the role either as town, yet that obviously doesn't make him scum.

Sure he did. quite early, too.
He didn't have to say more, since he wasn't planning on, you know, killing shit.


As I said before, its only obvious after being pointed out. No one else picked up on it besides the role creator, so I'm not alone.

If you had wanted to make an educated choice, you should have looked. Especially since you claim he was a scumread of yours. Not only did you never do anything about that, but it also suggests you did not go through his filter at all.
Which is no good sign.


I most certainly did look. It's obvious that I looked because as I explained in my reasoning of shooting kurumi, that he was scum based on his posts about syl. I just didn't make the connection, which is reasonable considering it was surrounded by nonsense such as Friendship Love, love of tea, loud people, fish in his cereal bowl, riddles, reverse dimensions, and white is white, black is black.

The bond grows weaker.
The future seems bleak.
My power wanes.
Maybe I will find solace in the past.
Would you mind looking for me.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 17 2013 16:52 GMT
#1312
So kita, waddaya say to lynching gonzo instead?

I sense my own weakness crawling into me.
tenacity, was not a virtue to the wished degree.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 17 2013 16:55 GMT
#1313
Quick question for you soniv if you're around: if iamp was the best candidate in your eyes on day one and you weren't able to convince town about him being scum, why didn't you try to manipulate the lynch by asking town to unvote and revote so that both iamp and oats would be killed?

Sutters, have you come to any conclusions about the difference between syl in this game and hist past games as town? You said you would be commenting on it.

Does anyone else find it strange that the person that gonzaw claims to have poisoned hasn't claimed yet? Either the person that was poisoned doesn't want town to know about it or gonzaw hasn't actually used his ability and is lying to us.

Cheese, you said a couple times that you were 40 pages behind in the thread. Why is that? Could you do me a favor and comment on every player left in the game? k thx.

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 17 2013 16:55 GMT
#1314
On February 18 2013 01:17 kitaman27 wrote:
What happened to gonzaw? At lylo I suddenly become your number one scum read now that my lynch has gained traction? Does all of the reasons gonzaw was scum no longer apply?

Emphasis?
A call for more?

Merely a way to gain my wishes. Our wishes, really.
To go back to what we used to share, it is desireable for one. Understandably less so for who else, but priorities must be set.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 17 2013 16:57 GMT
#1315
On February 18 2013 01:52 Dandel Ion wrote:
So kita, waddaya say to lynching gonzo instead?

I sense my own weakness crawling into me.
tenacity, was not a virtue to the wished degree.


I want syl lynched first as he is my strongest read. It looks quite likely that they are both scum. If my vote is needed to hammer a gonzaw lynch, if people refuse to vote for syl, I will do so to avoid a mislynch, but I will continue to push syl until then.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 17 2013 16:58 GMT
#1316
On February 18 2013 01:55 kitaman27 wrote:
Does anyone else find it strange that the person that gonzaw claims to have poisoned hasn't claimed yet? Either the person that was poisoned doesn't want town to know about it or gonzaw hasn't actually used his ability and is lying to us.

Yes a lie was my first instinct indeed.

Happened to even me it has before.
Poison? More like poisson.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 17 2013 16:58 GMT
#1317
On February 18 2013 01:57 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 01:52 Dandel Ion wrote:
So kita, waddaya say to lynching gonzo instead?

I sense my own weakness crawling into me.
tenacity, was not a virtue to the wished degree.


I want syl lynched first as he is my strongest read. It looks quite likely that they are both scum. If my vote is needed to hammer a gonzaw lynch, if people refuse to vote for syl, I will do so to avoid a mislynch, but I will continue to push syl until then.

That is well acceptable.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 17 2013 16:59 GMT
#1318
I do find it interesting that gonzaw and syl haven't voted for each other yet. As the two people likely to get lynched today, neither have chosen to vote for each other for survival, probably because they are scumbuddies.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 17 2013 16:59 GMT
#1319
*raises hand*
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 17 2013 17:05 GMT
#1320
Green, kita may be. Although a man with less tenacity than I had hoped and dreamed.

More is always more.

Stepping outside our world was a wise thing to do, you think, but sometimes wisdom blinds the truth.

Short and sweet while it lasted. Bittersweet the end so short to the goal.

Knowledge has been denied with wisdom. Tradition beat Innovation yet again. I feel like I'm in Asia.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
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