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France12750 Posts
On January 09 2013 22:15 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 22:06 Proseat wrote:On January 09 2013 22:01 Pandemona wrote:On January 09 2013 21:39 Poopi wrote:On January 09 2013 20:57 Pandemona wrote:On January 09 2013 20:53 Poopi wrote:On January 09 2013 20:17 Pandemona wrote:On January 09 2013 18:44 Zeon0 wrote:On January 09 2013 17:59 Pandemona wrote:
AMG, well thats cost me. 30points Trade Value for Stephano w t f. I wasn't putting him in week one of R2 due to fact he wasn't there, now he is there i was like ok, i trade him in asap...oh wait i can't afford.....rofl ;_;
Naughty TL xD you can trade Fantasy for Stephano. Who did you think you can trade for him? Ofc you cant trade your 3P - 5P players for Stephano (who was worth 8 i think?) after one week. why would you think that was possible?^^ Because he was like worth 5 at the draft. So i assumed he would still be worth 5 as he is yet to actually play a game, how can you increase someones points without them even playing a game xD He was worth 8. So he should be worth 16 now? Yet i can't chage any of my players for him (ones worth 16+ points ;_; ) But instead he is worth 30 points and just impossible to move into your team now. Which i find quite amazing really, as he scored -2 for not even playing last week in round 2, yet he is still worth 30 8$. We didn't know the point values. His value lowered since he didn't play so now he is worth the equivalent of maybe 7? I don't understand what you don't get. I don't get why his trade value is 30 points :S and i cant trade him in due to that. I don't get how he is worth 30 points. Read what I wrote above. It's not "30 points", it's the "adjusted" trade value (nornal trade value times certain factors). It's likely as high as it is because the system expects Stephano to come out and win a lot before the end of the round. Hmm so the systems is based on predictions from TL? Like they predicted EGTL to be top of SPL in round 1  Seems bit silly in that sense, but i guess rules are rules! Thanks for clearing it up  (Used to more standardized valuations in fantasy teams, ala premier league one (football))
Stephano costed 8$ at first. His trade value was probably 40 but now that he hasn't played at all it's 30.
He was worth that much because he could all-kill any single team out there, I guess. Or could lose. 8$ is kinda cheap for someone who was able to 4-kill the crop of the crop koreans at GSL WC honestly.
edit : But since it's his first real time in korean league, and the fact that proleague has weird maps zergs have troubles on, it's normal his value isn't that high yet.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51433 Posts
On January 09 2013 22:20 monk. wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 22:15 Pandemona wrote:On January 09 2013 22:06 Proseat wrote:On January 09 2013 22:01 Pandemona wrote:On January 09 2013 21:39 Poopi wrote:On January 09 2013 20:57 Pandemona wrote:On January 09 2013 20:53 Poopi wrote:On January 09 2013 20:17 Pandemona wrote:On January 09 2013 18:44 Zeon0 wrote:On January 09 2013 17:59 Pandemona wrote:
AMG, well thats cost me. 30points Trade Value for Stephano w t f. I wasn't putting him in week one of R2 due to fact he wasn't there, now he is there i was like ok, i trade him in asap...oh wait i can't afford.....rofl ;_;
Naughty TL xD you can trade Fantasy for Stephano. Who did you think you can trade for him? Ofc you cant trade your 3P - 5P players for Stephano (who was worth 8 i think?) after one week. why would you think that was possible?^^ Because he was like worth 5 at the draft. So i assumed he would still be worth 5 as he is yet to actually play a game, how can you increase someones points without them even playing a game xD He was worth 8. So he should be worth 16 now? Yet i can't chage any of my players for him (ones worth 16+ points ;_; ) But instead he is worth 30 points and just impossible to move into your team now. Which i find quite amazing really, as he scored -2 for not even playing last week in round 2, yet he is still worth 30 8$. We didn't know the point values. His value lowered since he didn't play so now he is worth the equivalent of maybe 7? I don't understand what you don't get. I don't get why his trade value is 30 points :S and i cant trade him in due to that. I don't get how he is worth 30 points. Read what I wrote above. It's not "30 points", it's the "adjusted" trade value (nornal trade value times certain factors). It's likely as high as it is because the system expects Stephano to come out and win a lot before the end of the round. Hmm so the systems is based on predictions from TL? Like they predicted EGTL to be top of SPL in round 1 Seems bit silly in that sense, but i guess rules are rules! Thanks for clearing it up (Used to more standardized valuations in fantasy teams, ala premier league one (football)) Not exactly I don't want to say too much but all the points are valued what they are for a reason. We put a ton of thought into all the point values.
Yeah i do understand, it must be a lot of working doing something like this, especially trying to valuate KESPA pro's who have hardly been seen playing SC2 (the squad players for each teams that is).
I'm just not used to this kind of format in fantasy games, as i said football fantasy is alot easier to fathom.
Thanks for clearing it up for me though
On January 09 2013 22:23 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 22:15 Pandemona wrote:On January 09 2013 22:06 Proseat wrote:On January 09 2013 22:01 Pandemona wrote:On January 09 2013 21:39 Poopi wrote:On January 09 2013 20:57 Pandemona wrote:On January 09 2013 20:53 Poopi wrote:On January 09 2013 20:17 Pandemona wrote:On January 09 2013 18:44 Zeon0 wrote:On January 09 2013 17:59 Pandemona wrote:
AMG, well thats cost me. 30points Trade Value for Stephano w t f. I wasn't putting him in week one of R2 due to fact he wasn't there, now he is there i was like ok, i trade him in asap...oh wait i can't afford.....rofl ;_;
Naughty TL xD you can trade Fantasy for Stephano. Who did you think you can trade for him? Ofc you cant trade your 3P - 5P players for Stephano (who was worth 8 i think?) after one week. why would you think that was possible?^^ Because he was like worth 5 at the draft. So i assumed he would still be worth 5 as he is yet to actually play a game, how can you increase someones points without them even playing a game xD He was worth 8. So he should be worth 16 now? Yet i can't chage any of my players for him (ones worth 16+ points ;_; ) But instead he is worth 30 points and just impossible to move into your team now. Which i find quite amazing really, as he scored -2 for not even playing last week in round 2, yet he is still worth 30 8$. We didn't know the point values. His value lowered since he didn't play so now he is worth the equivalent of maybe 7? I don't understand what you don't get. I don't get why his trade value is 30 points :S and i cant trade him in due to that. I don't get how he is worth 30 points. Read what I wrote above. It's not "30 points", it's the "adjusted" trade value (nornal trade value times certain factors). It's likely as high as it is because the system expects Stephano to come out and win a lot before the end of the round. Hmm so the systems is based on predictions from TL? Like they predicted EGTL to be top of SPL in round 1 Seems bit silly in that sense, but i guess rules are rules! Thanks for clearing it up (Used to more standardized valuations in fantasy teams, ala premier league one (football)) Stephano costed 8$ at first. His trade value was probably 40 but now that he hasn't played at all it's 30. He was worth that much because he could all-kill any single team out there, I guess. Or could lose. 8$ is kinda cheap for someone who was able to 4-kill the crop of the crop koreans at GSL WC honestly. edit : But since it's his first real time in korean league, and the fact that proleague has weird maps zergs have troubles on, it's normal his value isn't that high yet.
I guess, i just thought would be different sort of way valuations would work.
Thanks for helping clear it up
A note though, Stephano didn't all kill a korean team in GSL WC. Won 4 games, vs an out of form MC, DRG and Seed. The only real accomplishment in that was beating LIfe who was pretty good, and was a 4 streak of his own. He then lost to Squirtle.
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France12750 Posts
On January 09 2013 22:27 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 22:20 monk. wrote:On January 09 2013 22:15 Pandemona wrote:On January 09 2013 22:06 Proseat wrote:On January 09 2013 22:01 Pandemona wrote:On January 09 2013 21:39 Poopi wrote:On January 09 2013 20:57 Pandemona wrote:On January 09 2013 20:53 Poopi wrote:On January 09 2013 20:17 Pandemona wrote:On January 09 2013 18:44 Zeon0 wrote:
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you can trade Fantasy for Stephano. Who did you think you can trade for him? Ofc you cant trade your 3P - 5P players for Stephano (who was worth 8 i think?) after one week. why would you think that was possible?^^ Because he was like worth 5 at the draft. So i assumed he would still be worth 5 as he is yet to actually play a game, how can you increase someones points without them even playing a game xD He was worth 8. So he should be worth 16 now? Yet i can't chage any of my players for him (ones worth 16+ points ;_; ) But instead he is worth 30 points and just impossible to move into your team now. Which i find quite amazing really, as he scored -2 for not even playing last week in round 2, yet he is still worth 30 8$. We didn't know the point values. His value lowered since he didn't play so now he is worth the equivalent of maybe 7? I don't understand what you don't get. I don't get why his trade value is 30 points :S and i cant trade him in due to that. I don't get how he is worth 30 points. Read what I wrote above. It's not "30 points", it's the "adjusted" trade value (nornal trade value times certain factors). It's likely as high as it is because the system expects Stephano to come out and win a lot before the end of the round. Hmm so the systems is based on predictions from TL? Like they predicted EGTL to be top of SPL in round 1 Seems bit silly in that sense, but i guess rules are rules! Thanks for clearing it up (Used to more standardized valuations in fantasy teams, ala premier league one (football)) Not exactly I don't want to say too much but all the points are valued what they are for a reason. We put a ton of thought into all the point values. Yeah i do understand, it must be a lot of working doing something like this, especially trying to valuate KESPA pro's who have hardly been seen playing SC2 (the squad players for each teams that is). I'm just not used to this kind of format in fantasy games, as i said football fantasy is alot easier to fathom. Thanks for clearing it up for me though Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 22:23 Poopi wrote:On January 09 2013 22:15 Pandemona wrote:On January 09 2013 22:06 Proseat wrote:On January 09 2013 22:01 Pandemona wrote:On January 09 2013 21:39 Poopi wrote:On January 09 2013 20:57 Pandemona wrote:On January 09 2013 20:53 Poopi wrote:On January 09 2013 20:17 Pandemona wrote:On January 09 2013 18:44 Zeon0 wrote:
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you can trade Fantasy for Stephano. Who did you think you can trade for him? Ofc you cant trade your 3P - 5P players for Stephano (who was worth 8 i think?) after one week. why would you think that was possible?^^ Because he was like worth 5 at the draft. So i assumed he would still be worth 5 as he is yet to actually play a game, how can you increase someones points without them even playing a game xD He was worth 8. So he should be worth 16 now? Yet i can't chage any of my players for him (ones worth 16+ points ;_; ) But instead he is worth 30 points and just impossible to move into your team now. Which i find quite amazing really, as he scored -2 for not even playing last week in round 2, yet he is still worth 30 8$. We didn't know the point values. His value lowered since he didn't play so now he is worth the equivalent of maybe 7? I don't understand what you don't get. I don't get why his trade value is 30 points :S and i cant trade him in due to that. I don't get how he is worth 30 points. Read what I wrote above. It's not "30 points", it's the "adjusted" trade value (nornal trade value times certain factors). It's likely as high as it is because the system expects Stephano to come out and win a lot before the end of the round. Hmm so the systems is based on predictions from TL? Like they predicted EGTL to be top of SPL in round 1 Seems bit silly in that sense, but i guess rules are rules! Thanks for clearing it up (Used to more standardized valuations in fantasy teams, ala premier league one (football)) Stephano costed 8$ at first. His trade value was probably 40 but now that he hasn't played at all it's 30. He was worth that much because he could all-kill any single team out there, I guess. Or could lose. 8$ is kinda cheap for someone who was able to 4-kill the crop of the crop koreans at GSL WC honestly. edit : But since it's his first real time in korean league, and the fact that proleague has weird maps zergs have troubles on, it's normal his value isn't that high yet. I guess, i just thought would be different sort of way valuations would work. Thanks for helping clear it up A note though, Stephano didn't all kill a korean team in GSL WC. Won 4 games, vs an out of form MC, DRG and Seed. The only real accomplishment in that was beating LIfe who was pretty good, and was a 4 streak of his own. He then lost to Squirtle.
I didn't say he all-killed them. I said he 4-killed them and that he COULD perform all-kills in proleague.
Beating MC, DRG and Seed is also an accomplishment since Stephano was supposed to be out of form too .
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Haters gonna hate. Aces of PL teams dont have any chances in up&downs, and you are saying 4killing 4 of the best GSL pros is no accomplishment?
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51433 Posts
Not at that time no it was not. Seed isnt even in code a? MC was in Code A struggling at the time. DRG had just gone like 0-2 in his Code S group and was in shocking form. Like i said Life was the only real acomplishment from Stephano, but it was a BO1 win in a ZvZ...
But anyway that is not for this thread to be discussed is it!
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On January 09 2013 22:15 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 22:06 Proseat wrote:On January 09 2013 22:01 Pandemona wrote:On January 09 2013 21:39 Poopi wrote:On January 09 2013 20:57 Pandemona wrote:On January 09 2013 20:53 Poopi wrote:On January 09 2013 20:17 Pandemona wrote:On January 09 2013 18:44 Zeon0 wrote:On January 09 2013 17:59 Pandemona wrote:
AMG, well thats cost me. 30points Trade Value for Stephano w t f. I wasn't putting him in week one of R2 due to fact he wasn't there, now he is there i was like ok, i trade him in asap...oh wait i can't afford.....rofl ;_;
Naughty TL xD you can trade Fantasy for Stephano. Who did you think you can trade for him? Ofc you cant trade your 3P - 5P players for Stephano (who was worth 8 i think?) after one week. why would you think that was possible?^^ Because he was like worth 5 at the draft. So i assumed he would still be worth 5 as he is yet to actually play a game, how can you increase someones points without them even playing a game xD He was worth 8. So he should be worth 16 now? Yet i can't chage any of my players for him (ones worth 16+ points ;_; ) But instead he is worth 30 points and just impossible to move into your team now. Which i find quite amazing really, as he scored -2 for not even playing last week in round 2, yet he is still worth 30 8$. We didn't know the point values. His value lowered since he didn't play so now he is worth the equivalent of maybe 7? I don't understand what you don't get. I don't get why his trade value is 30 points :S and i cant trade him in due to that. I don't get how he is worth 30 points. Read what I wrote above. It's not "30 points", it's the "adjusted" trade value (nornal trade value times certain factors). It's likely as high as it is because the system expects Stephano to come out and win a lot before the end of the round. Hmm so the systems is based on predictions from TL? Like they predicted EGTL to be top of SPL in round 1 Seems bit silly in that sense, but i guess rules are rules! Thanks for clearing it up (Used to more standardized valuations in fantasy teams, ala premier league one (football))
That's basically what this game i all about.
Seeing the values of players, identifying which ones are most overrated and getting them on anti-team and identifying which ones are most underrated and getting them on main team.
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On January 09 2013 22:20 monk. wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 22:15 Pandemona wrote:On January 09 2013 22:06 Proseat wrote:On January 09 2013 22:01 Pandemona wrote:On January 09 2013 21:39 Poopi wrote:On January 09 2013 20:57 Pandemona wrote:On January 09 2013 20:53 Poopi wrote:On January 09 2013 20:17 Pandemona wrote:On January 09 2013 18:44 Zeon0 wrote:On January 09 2013 17:59 Pandemona wrote:
AMG, well thats cost me. 30points Trade Value for Stephano w t f. I wasn't putting him in week one of R2 due to fact he wasn't there, now he is there i was like ok, i trade him in asap...oh wait i can't afford.....rofl ;_;
Naughty TL xD you can trade Fantasy for Stephano. Who did you think you can trade for him? Ofc you cant trade your 3P - 5P players for Stephano (who was worth 8 i think?) after one week. why would you think that was possible?^^ Because he was like worth 5 at the draft. So i assumed he would still be worth 5 as he is yet to actually play a game, how can you increase someones points without them even playing a game xD He was worth 8. So he should be worth 16 now? Yet i can't chage any of my players for him (ones worth 16+ points ;_; ) But instead he is worth 30 points and just impossible to move into your team now. Which i find quite amazing really, as he scored -2 for not even playing last week in round 2, yet he is still worth 30 8$. We didn't know the point values. His value lowered since he didn't play so now he is worth the equivalent of maybe 7? I don't understand what you don't get. I don't get why his trade value is 30 points :S and i cant trade him in due to that. I don't get how he is worth 30 points. Read what I wrote above. It's not "30 points", it's the "adjusted" trade value (nornal trade value times certain factors). It's likely as high as it is because the system expects Stephano to come out and win a lot before the end of the round. Hmm so the systems is based on predictions from TL? Like they predicted EGTL to be top of SPL in round 1 Seems bit silly in that sense, but i guess rules are rules! Thanks for clearing it up (Used to more standardized valuations in fantasy teams, ala premier league one (football)) Not exactly I don't want to say too much but all the points are valued what they are for a reason. We put a ton of thought into all the point values.
Well you guys fucked me(More sHy did but still!) xD Both sHy and Stephano were same points, I put sHy on my anti so I could after week 1 trade him for Stephano.. but sHy did even better then I expected and now his trade Value leaves me with only Fantasy T.T so I am stuck with sHy on my anti team....FMFPL
At least Jangbang and Flash are getting me some good points to stay in the middle of the pack. Now the question is.. do I trade Storkuuu for CH or Jaehoon. or do I trade Reality for Flying? Gotta salvage my team some how and having 3 Khan players is not the answer...
Edit: Just noticed the nice little FPL link next to the liquidbets so convenient <3
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Shy in Antiteam :facepalm: :p
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Finished 64th, which I'm satisfied with. soO and Revival really pulled through for me the last week. I'm tempted to trade Jaehoon for Terminator. hmmm. Other than that, nothing really worth trading for... I'll just hope Jaedong never gets to play ;P.
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well my anti team is gonna screw me once again. already -8 with jangbi..fuck i knew i shouldnt have picked him...guess i am fucked for good now since i cant trade him really
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On January 10 2013 01:03 Zeon0 wrote:
Shy in Antiteam :facepalm: :p
It was supposed to be for only one week xD His starting match against herO from CJ I was just hoping he'd lose that then expected him to grab a kill or two in the next game then I'd trade him off for Stephano... Instead he goes and gets his trade value to the top 3 so I'm now stuck with him(Flash is on my main and no fucking way I'm putting Fantasy on my anti) D:
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On January 10 2013 01:13 Sigh wrote:
Finished 64th, which I'm satisfied with. soO and Revival really pulled through for me the last week. I'm tempted to trade Jaehoon for Terminator. hmmm. Other than that, nothing really worth trading for... I'll just hope Jaedong never gets to play ;P.
This idea is so damn tempting. On the one hand terminator has gotten more points but on the other, is it worth the trade tax if theyre going to end a couple of points apart
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why would you expect Shy to lose vs herO?^^ herO's time is over, he was just lucky the first few rounds 
but I also wouldnt want Stephano on my anti, maybe in Week2 its no problem cause they are playing vs weaker opponents and i dont think Stephano will start, but when they get to play harder opponents he can score some points for sure
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France12750 Posts
sHy has wonderful PvP record he wasn't going to lose to herO!
He underperformed imo by scoring only one kill in two matches.
Looking back at round 1, trading Bbyong for a 1 pointer and picking KT would have brouhht better results, but it was a big gamble. Despite doing bad at around top 800 I like my picks overall. If TaeJa brings his shit together there is a way to finish high!
Dunno who to trade in anti-team, there are no safer bet than JaeDong I think atm :/.
On main team Speed is doing well so trading him would be a bad choice, Bbyong isn't but for who trade him t.t
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ah finally a link to FPL on the front page. good call!
Now just please fix the detailed page!
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JD was 7P right? So you couldnt change JD for Action(he was 6P) before FPL started? (its not possible to trade now, but I dont get how Tradevalues are calculated)
I think your Anti is nice, not sure if better than mine though. Imo there are quite some overrated Zergs out there, thats why I dont get why people put JangBi or JYP on their Anti^^
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yes, the link on the mainpage is very nice. Thanks for that!
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On January 09 2013 23:38 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
At least Jangbang and Flash are getting me some good points to stay in the middle of the pack. Now the question is.. do I trade Storkuuu for CH or Jaehoon. or do I trade Reality for Flying? Gotta salvage my team some how and having 3 Khan players is not the answer...
You could trade Stork for Crazy-Hydra if the latter is starting next week. Otherwise it's a gamble and it's likely that Action will be played before Crazy if there is a need for a zerg.
Trading Reality for Flying is even worse, free is doing well so they'll keep playing him as a  sniper. After that sOs, Soulkey and ZerO will get priority. If Flying isn't starting, don't get him. If he is, well it's still very dangerous.
The question remains though : Why did you pick 3 Khan players ?
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On January 10 2013 01:46 Zeon0 wrote:why would you expect Shy to lose vs herO?^^ herO's time is over, he was just lucky the first few rounds but I also wouldnt want Stephano on my anti, maybe in Week2 its no problem cause they are playing vs weaker opponents and i dont think Stephano will start, but when they get to play harder opponents he can score some points for sure
I don't think herO's time is over at all and thought he had stronger PvP but I was wrong. As for Stephano, yea he might get some kills but for the points he was worth picking teams it was a steal for anti team. I don't buy the Stephano hype, his play never really impressed me and I expect the Kespa players to pick him apart in all honesty. I'm very sad I won't have him on my anti team.
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On January 10 2013 02:02 Otolia wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 23:38 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
At least Jangbang and Flash are getting me some good points to stay in the middle of the pack. Now the question is.. do I trade Storkuuu for CH or Jaehoon. or do I trade Reality for Flying? Gotta salvage my team some how and having 3 Khan players is not the answer... You could trade Stork for Crazy-Hydra if the latter is starting next week. Otherwise it's a gamble and it's likely that Action will be played before Crazy if there is a need for a zerg. Trading Reality for Flying is even worse, free is doing well so they'll keep playing him as a sniper. After that sOs, Soulkey and ZerO will get priority. If Flying isn't starting, don't get him. If he is, well it's still very dangerous. The question remains though : Why did you pick 3 Khan players ?
Reality was starting the first week and was cheap, was gambling on the off chance he might pick up a kill or two that game then trade him. Was planning on trading him this week no matter what but finding a player to trade him for now is more difficult then I anticipated. I love Stork and want to keep him but trading him offers more options so I'm stuck on what to do... I REALLLYYY fucked myself over this round with my picks..
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My FPL is just absolutely terrible this time. Last time it wasn't good either, but at least decent. Free certainly did far far better than i thought he would do, but i hope that it doesn't continue.
Oh well, let's see how the next weeks go.
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