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Fantasy Proleague '12-13 Round 2: All-Kill! - Page 18

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View results and standings for Proleague Round 2 here.

Create your Fantasy Proleague Round 3 team here.

Post your teams here, not in this thread.
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
January 09 2013 06:00 GMT
#341
On January 09 2013 14:59 izmatic wrote:
when are next weeks line-ups posted?

Usually on thursday.
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Raiquer
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden98 Posts
January 09 2013 06:14 GMT
#342
On January 09 2013 14:46 monk. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 14:23 Raiquer wrote:
I was planning on adding Stephano to my anti team in week two, but when I try to trade him into my team it says "This player is restricted and cannot be traded to your anti-team!". I remember reading that he was supposed to be available for your anti team in week two.

Can someone explain why it isn't working?
Thanks in advance.

This was a mistake. Stephano has since been enabled for anti-teams. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. Anyone see any problems with scoring, especially with players who broke streaks?

It's working now, thanks!
Slayers_Boxer, Mvp, Flash, Fantasy, Nestea, Jinro, Naniwa, Thorzain, Jaedong, DongRaeGu, White-ra, Sase, Haypro, Nada, Tastosis, Day[9], IM and KT Fighting!
Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-09 08:28:58
January 09 2013 08:25 GMT
#343
Fantasy and Flash did not win a single game that week and I am only ...

at the 2nd best position I ever was (only beaten by my #2 one week earlier), hahahaha.

#56

edit : I swear every time I wake up this thread is dead and the I come along and BOOM people write in it.
Where is my ACE flair
Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
January 09 2013 08:41 GMT
#344
well last night suddenly got me top100 (#90), and with only KT-SKT coming up where my players play each other (and khan-STX for anti) i'm very happy already. Taking Wooki over Stats made my week and Revival and JYP both gave me decent points (or more in Revival's case). Hoping Fanta keeps his performance up and is sent out before sOo next time so he gets all the wins (or as ace to break streaks ofc)
Dont think im going to trade people this week at least, unless some 1-pointer is going to start, then i might...
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 09 2013 08:59 GMT
#345
AMG, well thats cost me. 30points Trade Value for Stephano w t f. I wasn't putting him in week one of R2 due to fact he wasn't there, now he is there i was like ok, i trade him in asap...oh wait i can't afford.....rofl ;_;

Naughty TL xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
AKRW
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
80 Posts
January 09 2013 09:22 GMT
#346
Top10 baby!
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
January 09 2013 09:44 GMT
#347
On January 09 2013 17:59 Pandemona wrote:
AMG, well thats cost me. 30points Trade Value for Stephano w t f. I wasn't putting him in week one of R2 due to fact he wasn't there, now he is there i was like ok, i trade him in asap...oh wait i can't afford.....rofl ;_;

Naughty TL xD

you can trade Fantasy for Stephano. Who did you think you can trade for him? Ofc you cant trade your 3P - 5P players for Stephano (who was worth 8 i think?) after one week. why would you think that was possible?^^
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
January 09 2013 10:12 GMT
#348
There are no words for what Effort did to my anti team.
We know nothing.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
January 09 2013 11:01 GMT
#349
On January 09 2013 14:46 monk. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 14:23 Raiquer wrote:
I was planning on adding Stephano to my anti team in week two, but when I try to trade him into my team it says "This player is restricted and cannot be traded to your anti-team!". I remember reading that he was supposed to be available for your anti team in week two.

Can someone explain why it isn't working?
Thanks in advance.

This was a mistake. Stephano has since been enabled for anti-teams. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. Anyone see any problems with scoring, especially with players who broke streaks?

All streak breaks in week 1 are accounted for:

(P)JangBi 2x (vs (T)Speed, vs (P)free)
(P)sHy 1x (vs (P)JangBi)
(Z)soO 1x (vs (P)JYP)
(Z)Revival 1x (vs (Z)soO)
(P)Jaehoon 1x (vs (Z)EffOrt)

The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
January 09 2013 11:07 GMT
#350
^ Thx
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 09 2013 11:17 GMT
#351
On January 09 2013 18:44 Zeon0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 17:59 Pandemona wrote:
AMG, well thats cost me. 30points Trade Value for Stephano w t f. I wasn't putting him in week one of R2 due to fact he wasn't there, now he is there i was like ok, i trade him in asap...oh wait i can't afford.....rofl ;_;

Naughty TL xD

you can trade Fantasy for Stephano. Who did you think you can trade for him? Ofc you cant trade your 3P - 5P players for Stephano (who was worth 8 i think?) after one week. why would you think that was possible?^^


Because he was like worth 5 at the draft. So i assumed he would still be worth 5 as he is yet to actually play a game, how can you increase someones points without them even playing a game xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-09 14:37:08
January 09 2013 11:51 GMT
#352
Terrible week.. I have to get rid of soulkey. His play against jangbi was so horrible..

Who to get? Bogus and baby aren't looking too hot either. EGTL has easy matches next week so if stephano is starting I'm getting him.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
January 09 2013 11:53 GMT
#353
On January 09 2013 20:17 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 18:44 Zeon0 wrote:
On January 09 2013 17:59 Pandemona wrote:
AMG, well thats cost me. 30points Trade Value for Stephano w t f. I wasn't putting him in week one of R2 due to fact he wasn't there, now he is there i was like ok, i trade him in asap...oh wait i can't afford.....rofl ;_;

Naughty TL xD

you can trade Fantasy for Stephano. Who did you think you can trade for him? Ofc you cant trade your 3P - 5P players for Stephano (who was worth 8 i think?) after one week. why would you think that was possible?^^


Because he was like worth 5 at the draft. So i assumed he would still be worth 5 as he is yet to actually play a game, how can you increase someones points without them even playing a game xD

He was worth 8.
WriterMaru
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-09 11:58:43
January 09 2013 11:57 GMT
#354
On January 09 2013 20:53 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 20:17 Pandemona wrote:
On January 09 2013 18:44 Zeon0 wrote:
On January 09 2013 17:59 Pandemona wrote:
AMG, well thats cost me. 30points Trade Value for Stephano w t f. I wasn't putting him in week one of R2 due to fact he wasn't there, now he is there i was like ok, i trade him in asap...oh wait i can't afford.....rofl ;_;

Naughty TL xD

you can trade Fantasy for Stephano. Who did you think you can trade for him? Ofc you cant trade your 3P - 5P players for Stephano (who was worth 8 i think?) after one week. why would you think that was possible?^^


Because he was like worth 5 at the draft. So i assumed he would still be worth 5 as he is yet to actually play a game, how can you increase someones points without them even playing a game xD

He was worth 8.


So he should be worth 16 now? Yet i can't chage any of my players for him (ones worth 16+ points ;_; )

But instead he is worth 30 points and just impossible to move into your team now. Which i find quite amazing really, as he scored -2 for not even playing last week in round 2, yet he is still worth 30
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-09 13:03:40
January 09 2013 12:36 GMT
#355
Stephano scored 1 point (EG-TL team win). What you're referring to is the trade value and in the case of Stephano a delta of said value of -2.00 (his trade value fell from 8.00 to 6.00, his adjusted trade value from 32.00 to 30.00). Trade values will usually go down when the respective player did not play or lost games, or if his team did not win some or all their matches. Also, high-value players, i.e. those that are expected to play and win a lot, are prone to losing more absolute value than those valued less. Likewise, players with a low or moderate value that are doing well by winning a lot of maps will see greater jumps in trade value.

Players sorted by their trade value delta (TrVal +/-) this week:
http://www.teamliquid.net/fantasy/proleague/Stats.php?r=13&s=20&d=1

As you can see, players who played in both their team's matches, or those who won a lot of maps, see the biggest increases this week. Flash as well as Wooki only came out for a single match each, both all-killed. Yet you see a greater increase in trade value (TrVal) for Wooki than for Flash because the former is valued less than the latter, or to put it in plain words, Flash was expected to do well, Wooki less so, given their initial values. Players like Free and Revival, both valued less than Wooki, saw as big an increase because they came out in both matches and did really well, almost scoring as many points for their owners. And if a team wins both their matches a week, you'll even see the 1-pointer team members rise in value slightly. At the bottom of the table you find high-value players such as BaBy, Rain, TaeJa, and also Stephano that either disappointed or did not get to play this week to score points and thus did not live up to their initial value.

Finally, take note that you trade by trade value, not points. Why the trade value used on the Stats tab (TrVal) is not the same as the one used on the Trading tab (Adj TrVal) even though the same delta is applied to both, I have no idea. I asked R1CH about this before, but he didn't know either. It could be that the "adjusted" trade value takes additional factors into account, such as how many games a player could still play before the end of the round. Last round I've seen big jumps in that value from week to week and finally a zero value at the end of the round. So that supports that idea.
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
January 09 2013 12:39 GMT
#356
On January 09 2013 20:57 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 20:53 Poopi wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:17 Pandemona wrote:
On January 09 2013 18:44 Zeon0 wrote:
On January 09 2013 17:59 Pandemona wrote:
AMG, well thats cost me. 30points Trade Value for Stephano w t f. I wasn't putting him in week one of R2 due to fact he wasn't there, now he is there i was like ok, i trade him in asap...oh wait i can't afford.....rofl ;_;

Naughty TL xD

you can trade Fantasy for Stephano. Who did you think you can trade for him? Ofc you cant trade your 3P - 5P players for Stephano (who was worth 8 i think?) after one week. why would you think that was possible?^^


Because he was like worth 5 at the draft. So i assumed he would still be worth 5 as he is yet to actually play a game, how can you increase someones points without them even playing a game xD

He was worth 8.


So he should be worth 16 now? Yet i can't chage any of my players for him (ones worth 16+ points ;_; )

But instead he is worth 30 points and just impossible to move into your team now. Which i find quite amazing really, as he scored -2 for not even playing last week in round 2, yet he is still worth 30

8$. We didn't know the point values. His value lowered since he didn't play so now he is worth the equivalent of maybe 7?
I don't understand what you don't get.
WriterMaru
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 09 2013 13:01 GMT
#357
On January 09 2013 21:39 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 20:57 Pandemona wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:53 Poopi wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:17 Pandemona wrote:
On January 09 2013 18:44 Zeon0 wrote:
On January 09 2013 17:59 Pandemona wrote:
AMG, well thats cost me. 30points Trade Value for Stephano w t f. I wasn't putting him in week one of R2 due to fact he wasn't there, now he is there i was like ok, i trade him in asap...oh wait i can't afford.....rofl ;_;

Naughty TL xD

you can trade Fantasy for Stephano. Who did you think you can trade for him? Ofc you cant trade your 3P - 5P players for Stephano (who was worth 8 i think?) after one week. why would you think that was possible?^^


Because he was like worth 5 at the draft. So i assumed he would still be worth 5 as he is yet to actually play a game, how can you increase someones points without them even playing a game xD

He was worth 8.


So he should be worth 16 now? Yet i can't chage any of my players for him (ones worth 16+ points ;_; )

But instead he is worth 30 points and just impossible to move into your team now. Which i find quite amazing really, as he scored -2 for not even playing last week in round 2, yet he is still worth 30

8$. We didn't know the point values. His value lowered since he didn't play so now he is worth the equivalent of maybe 7?
I don't understand what you don't get.


I don't get why his trade value is 30 points :S and i cant trade him in due to that. I don't get how he is worth 30 points.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
January 09 2013 13:06 GMT
#358
On January 09 2013 22:01 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 21:39 Poopi wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:57 Pandemona wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:53 Poopi wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:17 Pandemona wrote:
On January 09 2013 18:44 Zeon0 wrote:
On January 09 2013 17:59 Pandemona wrote:
AMG, well thats cost me. 30points Trade Value for Stephano w t f. I wasn't putting him in week one of R2 due to fact he wasn't there, now he is there i was like ok, i trade him in asap...oh wait i can't afford.....rofl ;_;

Naughty TL xD

you can trade Fantasy for Stephano. Who did you think you can trade for him? Ofc you cant trade your 3P - 5P players for Stephano (who was worth 8 i think?) after one week. why would you think that was possible?^^


Because he was like worth 5 at the draft. So i assumed he would still be worth 5 as he is yet to actually play a game, how can you increase someones points without them even playing a game xD

He was worth 8.


So he should be worth 16 now? Yet i can't chage any of my players for him (ones worth 16+ points ;_; )

But instead he is worth 30 points and just impossible to move into your team now. Which i find quite amazing really, as he scored -2 for not even playing last week in round 2, yet he is still worth 30

8$. We didn't know the point values. His value lowered since he didn't play so now he is worth the equivalent of maybe 7?
I don't understand what you don't get.


I don't get why his trade value is 30 points :S and i cant trade him in due to that. I don't get how he is worth 30 points.

Read what I wrote above. It's not "30 points", it's the "adjusted" trade value (nornal trade value times certain factors). It's likely as high as it is because the system expects Stephano to come out and win a lot before the end of the round.
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 09 2013 13:15 GMT
#359
On January 09 2013 22:06 Proseat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 22:01 Pandemona wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:39 Poopi wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:57 Pandemona wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:53 Poopi wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:17 Pandemona wrote:
On January 09 2013 18:44 Zeon0 wrote:
On January 09 2013 17:59 Pandemona wrote:
AMG, well thats cost me. 30points Trade Value for Stephano w t f. I wasn't putting him in week one of R2 due to fact he wasn't there, now he is there i was like ok, i trade him in asap...oh wait i can't afford.....rofl ;_;

Naughty TL xD

you can trade Fantasy for Stephano. Who did you think you can trade for him? Ofc you cant trade your 3P - 5P players for Stephano (who was worth 8 i think?) after one week. why would you think that was possible?^^


Because he was like worth 5 at the draft. So i assumed he would still be worth 5 as he is yet to actually play a game, how can you increase someones points without them even playing a game xD

He was worth 8.


So he should be worth 16 now? Yet i can't chage any of my players for him (ones worth 16+ points ;_; )

But instead he is worth 30 points and just impossible to move into your team now. Which i find quite amazing really, as he scored -2 for not even playing last week in round 2, yet he is still worth 30

8$. We didn't know the point values. His value lowered since he didn't play so now he is worth the equivalent of maybe 7?
I don't understand what you don't get.


I don't get why his trade value is 30 points :S and i cant trade him in due to that. I don't get how he is worth 30 points.

Read what I wrote above. It's not "30 points", it's the "adjusted" trade value (nornal trade value times certain factors). It's likely as high as it is because the system expects Stephano to come out and win a lot before the end of the round.


Hmm so the systems is based on predictions from TL? Like they predicted EGTL to be top of SPL in round 1

Seems bit silly in that sense, but i guess rules are rules! Thanks for clearing it up

(Used to more standardized valuations in fantasy teams, ala premier league one (football))
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-09 13:24:54
January 09 2013 13:20 GMT
#360
On January 09 2013 22:15 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 22:06 Proseat wrote:
On January 09 2013 22:01 Pandemona wrote:
On January 09 2013 21:39 Poopi wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:57 Pandemona wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:53 Poopi wrote:
On January 09 2013 20:17 Pandemona wrote:
On January 09 2013 18:44 Zeon0 wrote:
On January 09 2013 17:59 Pandemona wrote:
AMG, well thats cost me. 30points Trade Value for Stephano w t f. I wasn't putting him in week one of R2 due to fact he wasn't there, now he is there i was like ok, i trade him in asap...oh wait i can't afford.....rofl ;_;

Naughty TL xD

you can trade Fantasy for Stephano. Who did you think you can trade for him? Ofc you cant trade your 3P - 5P players for Stephano (who was worth 8 i think?) after one week. why would you think that was possible?^^


Because he was like worth 5 at the draft. So i assumed he would still be worth 5 as he is yet to actually play a game, how can you increase someones points without them even playing a game xD

He was worth 8.


So he should be worth 16 now? Yet i can't chage any of my players for him (ones worth 16+ points ;_; )

But instead he is worth 30 points and just impossible to move into your team now. Which i find quite amazing really, as he scored -2 for not even playing last week in round 2, yet he is still worth 30

8$. We didn't know the point values. His value lowered since he didn't play so now he is worth the equivalent of maybe 7?
I don't understand what you don't get.


I don't get why his trade value is 30 points :S and i cant trade him in due to that. I don't get how he is worth 30 points.

Read what I wrote above. It's not "30 points", it's the "adjusted" trade value (nornal trade value times certain factors). It's likely as high as it is because the system expects Stephano to come out and win a lot before the end of the round.


Hmm so the systems is based on predictions from TL? Like they predicted EGTL to be top of SPL in round 1

Seems bit silly in that sense, but i guess rules are rules! Thanks for clearing it up

(Used to more standardized valuations in fantasy teams, ala premier league one (football))

Not exactly I don't want to say too much but all the points are valued what they are for a reason. We put a ton of thought into all the point values.
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