EPTkeir: hey mang! Do you feel that Acro's refusal to give his reasoning on being included in the party is a scum or a town tell?
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
keir: hey mang! Do you feel that Acro's refusal to give his reasoning on being included in the party is a scum or a town tell? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
If he is scum and included and we fail, he is immediately under suspicion. If he is town, it is good for town that he is telling us this. I think that scum think it is too big a risk to try to get a scum into the party and hope that it gets confirmed. | ||
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Promethelax
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
I think that for now, the players in the successful quests should not be investigated. There are so many more people who arnt inside the quests. HOWEVER, should we reach a point where everyone has gone on successful quests, then that is not applicable. | ||
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goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
On November 26 2012 16:32 Oatsmaster wrote: I think that its a null tell. If he is scum and included and we fail, he is immediately under suspicion. If he is town, it is good for town that he is telling us this. I think that scum think it is too big a risk to try to get a scum into the party and hope that it gets confirmed. In what way? If scum does get in the party, there's a good chance we wouldn't get a chance to lynch + Show Spoiler + (speculation to be sure, but something I still believe to be true...) While not an easy proposition, I would argue that Acro would be capable of doing that. And that's more than enough payoff for scum to try to get someone into the party. Assuming at this point that Toad is scum (a safe assumption imho), scum is in a pretty difficult situation. They are going to have to try some kind of high-risk high-reward play to get back in the game. Putting a scum Acro in the party would achieve that. While scum might be scared of getting someone into the party, I would argue that in fact a town Acro would be more likely than a scum Acro to refuse to be in the party at this point. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
See, I think you are town. I really do. I just don't get how you come to some of the conclusions you come to. I disagree with you whole heartedly. | ||
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goodkarma
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
I thought that that wasnt beneficial for scum. Ok now I think thats it is definately not a SCUM tell. | ||
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syllogism
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On November 26 2012 16:28 Promethelax wrote: Man Syllo you sure managed to reply to my concerns in the last 45 minutes I've been gone. Glad to see you living up to your reputation as a good player. keir: hey mang! Do you feel that Acro's refusal to give his reasoning on being included in the party is a scum or a town tell? I don't particularly think it's a scum tell. Notice, I said I didn't particularly want to be included in the party during day 1. But combined with the rather weird circumstances around his role claim, things just don't make any sense without more information that he is unwilling to give. There's no way I would lynch him over Toad, so not in a super big hurry to make up my mind. Maybe things will be clearer by the next time we get to a lynch cycle. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On November 26 2012 16:45 syllogism wrote: Prom: for future reference, it's not a good strategy to berate me in every post, especially given what happened on day 1 and 2. That and telling fewer unnecessary lies should help in your future endeavours. You going to answer my question? Because I honestly have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
Based on the flavour for the first event, I think that it is safe to say we wont be lynching if we didnt win it. HOWEVER that is just based on 1 event. Speculation is all and good but it should be at least more than a slightly educated guess. | ||
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goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
RIGHT? Also that if we see someone pushing hard to be in the party, i/e Djo. We should be more suspicious of them | ||
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goodkarma
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On November 26 2012 16:45 syllogism wrote: Prom: for future reference, it's not a good strategy to berate me in every post, especially given what happened on day 1 and 2. That and telling fewer unnecessary lies should help in your future endeavours. for present reference not being dumb will help you with this game. I have told no unnecessary lies, the only person I lied to was Sandroba and we gained information from that. Thanks Kier, I find the whole thing a null tell (though totally weird) and my town read on Acro stands however I never want him included in a party. No matter what he claims later. | ||
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goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
On November 26 2012 16:51 Oatsmaster wrote: so GK, your conclusion is that not wanting to be in the party is not a scumtell. RIGHT? Also that if we see someone pushing hard to be in the party, i/e Djo. We should be more suspicious of them I'm saying that it's entirely plausible that scum is still pushing to be in the party even though it could be suicidal at this point long-term. With Djo, he has pushed hard this cycle to be elected. As scum, I doubt that he could secure the mislynch as Acro might. He isn't a strong town read with people here (myself included), and as such I would think he would be worried about being spotted as the weak link in the team. In other words, I would say the opposite with Djo. His pushing to be party leader is rather misguided and in my opinion not very pro-town given the strong alternatives right now. However, it isn't a scum tell. Given that his actions don't really make sense to me as scum, I would actually say it's a town tell. | ||
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Promethelax
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
I might work late but I'll manage to catch up with the thread before the deadline without problems. @Oats Did you made your final decision regarding your party ? Oats, Dieno, Marv and Clarity ? Am I right ? /joke Are you sure you don't want to take me instead of marv  ? /jokePlease make sure to include the party in your PM ^^ ##Vote: Oats | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
##vote oats I really would prefer if you replaced dieno with syllo though. | ||
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