I'm really looking forward to someone flipping who isnt such an obvious target. Sandroba practically tied the rope and put it around his neck once he disappeared in the manner he did after losing the election. Everyone was able to distance themselves pretty early and without much drama, so I couldn't really reverse my reads to find more scum.

My maps will become much more useful as the game plays out. Any deductions made right now are mostly conjecture and extrapolations, but soon I'll have the keys to the kingdom.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

November 26 2012 11:56 GMT

#3563

If I had to name a five person mafia team on the spot without reading any of the filters. I would probably go with

sandro toad acro prom and maaaybe risk

The above risk-prom conversation feels off, as does the fact that risk decided to run today for election. He also supported sandro early and the post in which he declared his vote is suspicious in more ways than one. Anyway, this isn't relevant right now.

Adam4167

Australia1426 Posts

November 26 2012 11:56 GMT

#3564

On November 26 2012 19:29 Clarity_nl wrote:
I find it rather sad that I would vigi shot three people if I could: VE, Adam, CJ

Any reason other than my post count?

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

November 26 2012 11:57 GMT

#3565

oh look Adam exists.

Syllo, ever going to respond to me? Or have you decided to totally write me off? I hope to hell you are town so I can throw this in your face post game.

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

November 26 2012 11:58 GMT

#3566

Hey Risk, we're suspicious. Wanna buddy up and pretend to have extra knowledge so that Syllo can keep crapping his pants?

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

November 26 2012 11:59 GMT

#3567

You can't throw anything "in my face" even if somehow I am wrong about you. Everyone is wrong about a lot of things every single game. Town is in a very good position, so me considering you almost certain mafia shouldn't bother you this much. The hostility and that comment is very typical of a mafia in your position, not so much of a town aligned person.

Adam4167

Australia1426 Posts

November 26 2012 11:59 GMT

#3568

I do exist, I just don't feel the need to comment.

As long as the people I have scum reads on are being lynched and the people i have town reads on are not, I see no reason to interject.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

November 26 2012 12:00 GMT

#3569

On November 26 2012 20:56 Adam4167 wrote:

Show nested quote +

Any reason other than my post count?

Ehhh, yes and no. Your last couple of posts are basically posts proclaiming you're still around, but then nothing comes from it.

Adam4167

Australia1426 Posts

November 26 2012 12:02 GMT

#3570

We've got our team sorted, we've got our lynched lined up for next cycle (as it would be crazy to lynch anyone but toad).

I could probably go another 3 days without posting and not miss a great deal.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

November 26 2012 12:02 GMT

#3571

Let me put it this way, you're one of those people that could easily be scum but it would be really hard to lynch you. Hence the vigi shot comment.

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

November 26 2012 12:03 GMT

#3572

Okay but you are relying on your status as 'confirmed' from the first mission (which I think you believe yourself to be, though you haven't answered yet) to push that read. This is not good play. You are calling me scum by essentially saying 'lol that guy over there, him scum' without justification. That is poor play and it pisses me off not that you would suspect me but that you have so little respect for both me and the game that you can't even be assed to make a case.

Who do you have scum reads on Adam? I know lurking is your thing but I thought you'd have some ideas too.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

November 26 2012 12:07 GMT

#3573

I forgot to mention one reason for including acro (besides his strong and occasionally irrational support of sandro and his 1-shot dt claim today):

What's the common theme among the first three players: Iam, Djo, Clarity, Acro

First three are players who aren't high priority mafia targets, but yet were pretty active and to some degree towny on day 1. If mafia has an ability that does damage slowly over time, it makes sense to target this kind of players. Acro is the one who doesn't fit. Of course I'm operating based on the assumption that mafia would fake damage, but I think this makes sense.

Acrofales

Spain18425 Posts

November 26 2012 12:07 GMT

#3574

On November 26 2012 20:56 syllogism wrote:
If I had to name a five person mafia team on the spot without reading any of the filters. I would probably go with

sandro toad acro prom and maaaybe risk

The above risk-prom conversation feels off, as does the fact that risk decided to run today for election. He also supported sandro early and the post in which he declared his vote is suspicious in more ways than one. Anyway, this isn't relevant right now.

Nice list you got there. Want to explain my presence there?

Acrofales

Spain18425 Posts

November 26 2012 12:09 GMT

#3575

Sniped. Okay, so how does my DT claim make me scum if Toad is scum?

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

November 26 2012 12:09 GMT

#3576

Syllo, could you take five goddmna minutes to write up why each of Me, Risk and Acro is scum. Three sentences on each of us in one post. I'd also like a why VE, Adam, CJ and mostly Hope are town post.

Acrofales

Spain18425 Posts

November 26 2012 12:10 GMT

#3577

Also, I am not faking damage. You're just having a giant case of the confirmation bias to fit everything in there.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

November 26 2012 12:11 GMT

#3578

You are both reacting rather violently despite him saying "without reading filters, if I had to pick"

Dienosore

Brunei Darussalam622 Posts

November 26 2012 12:11 GMT

#3579

On November 26 2012 20:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
You seem to not mention Oats basically calling me scum D1, other than that that's basically how I recall the game going, yes.
There's nothing wrong with summarizing information like this, Dieno, but realize that there's no real original input from you when it comes to this. You put work into it and I really appreciate that, but I would like to see you make some observations of people on your own, rather than summarize those of others.

I did say that oats gave you flak on d1, maybe you just missed it

And if you really think what I'm doing is just summarizing the game, then you are unfortunately misunderstanding the whole purpose. While you guys are debating each other and sifting through filters to dig up evidence for cases, I'm documenting it all. Then, I can take a step back and look for patterns and connections that you guys might miss because you are too wrapped up in what people are saying, rather than why they are saying it or who they are saying it to.

Once a few more people flip, you'll be able to look back at the maps and be like, "oh snap, this guy who has been exposed as mafia has been supporting this guy all game" etc. Once one domino falls, the rest will be sure to quickly follow. I just hope I can stay alive long enough to make sure it happens.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

November 26 2012 12:11 GMT

#3580

I said I didn't even read your filter, don't worry about it, I'm not going to push you to get lynched and if you are town you are definitely an asset and will prove yourself as such in the following days. There is definitely some confirmation bias going on if I'm wrong, it just seems tidy.