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On November 26 2012 13:48 CaveJohnson wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 13:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cave, dont be petty. If you think that acro is scum, make a case. I don't need to anymore. There was no town reason to do what he did and he just ignores it. Simple and clean kill in my opinion.
As I said, you're an idiot. There clearly WAS a town reason. Hopeless1der (regardless of whether he's town or not) was acting with him, and Oatsmaster was making up crap about Chronicler's claim being fake, which I knew it was not. If you look at my vehement reactions to both, you should see that I acted far more certain than I should have if I didnt have that info (or planned to bus Toad then and there. I agree that that is always a possibility... too bad that wasn't the case right now).
Oh, and do you really think that an Acro/Sandroba/Toad scumteam would end cycle 2 with me hard defending Sandroba and trying to push the lynch onto my scumbuddy?
As I said, you're an idiot. I am done talking to you.
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On November 26 2012 13:52 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 13:48 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 26 2012 13:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cave, dont be petty. If you think that acro is scum, make a case. I don't need to anymore. There was no town reason to do what he did and he just ignores it. Simple and clean kill in my opinion. Fine. I thought I'd claim immediately. Then realized there wasn't a lynch. Why bother throwing that info out unless there IS a lynch (and it therefore helps town), or Toad is fucking with people's minds (and claming therefore helps town). I know you are the king of roleclaims, but I prefer to not throw all my info in the table and then whine every cycle that people will shoot me.
Still no reason to throw your role claim out after TC's. 2-1 trade isn't nearly as nice as the 1-1 trade would have been. Sure it must of been annoying to not have any use on your 1 shot ability but thats Mafia. You could of lit up a scum target for every vigilante and role blocker but instead only did so after it was meaningless.
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On November 26 2012 03:15 marvellosity wrote:
by the way, sand's bussing ability doesn't bus damage, only DT/tracker/watcher stuff.
Seems everybody missed this: how do you know this?
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On November 25 2012 09:30 GreYMisT wrote: Cycle 3
Event: Race across site 32
2300 AD
WILL INSERT FLAVOR LATER Sandroba (Spekkio) was lynched!+ Show Spoiler [role PM] +Welcome To Chrono Trigger Mafia! You are Spekkio!. You are the Master of War! You have control over all elements of magic. Your abilities are the following: Water
Allows the use of 2 powers the next night. (does not accumulate)
Lightning
Full cycle roleblock on your target.
Shadow
Frame busses target with another target of your choice.
Fire
Burns target. Target takes 200 damage in 50 damage increments over 4 days.
Only allowed 1 fire active at a time.
You have 600 max HP.
You will be voting on another party leader!
Only 1/2 of the party from cycle 1 may be in the party for this cycle, and syllogism, as the leader from the last event, is ineligible for the same position!!!!
here Acro. Maybe you didn't read this.
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@Acro: stop being lazy. Last time I look up something that can EASILY be checked. Took me 3 clicks to find this post:
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On November 26 2012 13:56 CaveJohnson wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 13:52 Acrofales wrote:On November 26 2012 13:48 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 26 2012 13:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cave, dont be petty. If you think that acro is scum, make a case. I don't need to anymore. There was no town reason to do what he did and he just ignores it. Simple and clean kill in my opinion. Fine. I thought I'd claim immediately. Then realized there wasn't a lynch. Why bother throwing that info out unless there IS a lynch (and it therefore helps town), or Toad is fucking with people's minds (and claming therefore helps town). I know you are the king of roleclaims, but I prefer to not throw all my info in the table and then whine every cycle that people will shoot me. Still no reason to throw your role claim out after TC's. 2-1 trade isn't nearly as nice as the 1-1 trade would have been. Sure it must of been annoying to not have any use on your 1 shot ability but thats Mafia. You could of lit up a scum target for every vigilante and role blocker but instead only did so after it was meaningless.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Also, you're not thinking straight.
My info helps nail Toad, you agree?
If it helps nail Toad and he flips scum, which I 100% think it does, then you can make the claim that my roleclaim is not alignment indicative as I might have been bussing. Go ahead and do that, but how the flying fuck does this suddenly make it a 2 for 1 trade for town?
If Toad flips and he's town, then it's a 2 for 1 trade in favour of town. So.. yeah, that would make me the greatest derp in the history of herpaderps.
In closing: you're an idiot.
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On November 26 2012 14:03 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 09:30 GreYMisT wrote: Cycle 3
Event: Race across site 32
2300 AD
WILL INSERT FLAVOR LATER Sandroba (Spekkio) was lynched!+ Show Spoiler [role PM] +Welcome To Chrono Trigger Mafia! You are Spekkio!. You are the Master of War! You have control over all elements of magic. Your abilities are the following: Water
Allows the use of 2 powers the next night. (does not accumulate)
Lightning
Full cycle roleblock on your target.
Shadow
Frame busses target with another target of your choice.
Fire
Burns target. Target takes 200 damage in 50 damage increments over 4 days.
Only allowed 1 fire active at a time.
You have 600 max HP.
You will be voting on another party leader!
Only 1/2 of the party from cycle 1 may be in the party for this cycle, and syllogism, as the leader from the last event, is ineligible for the same position!!!! here Acro. Maybe you didn't read this.
I read that shit. I fail to see your point. You have some knowledge about what a frame busser does that is before Marv's explanation, because I sure as fuck don't. Marv claims it only busses roles, not damage. Where does he get that info?
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On November 26 2012 14:08 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 14:03 Promethelax wrote:On November 25 2012 09:30 GreYMisT wrote: Cycle 3
Event: Race across site 32
2300 AD
WILL INSERT FLAVOR LATER Sandroba (Spekkio) was lynched!+ Show Spoiler [role PM] +Welcome To Chrono Trigger Mafia! You are Spekkio!. You are the Master of War! You have control over all elements of magic. Your abilities are the following: Water
Allows the use of 2 powers the next night. (does not accumulate)
Lightning
Full cycle roleblock on your target.
Shadow
Frame busses target with another target of your choice.
Fire
Burns target. Target takes 200 damage in 50 damage increments over 4 days.
Only allowed 1 fire active at a time.
You have 600 max HP.
You will be voting on another party leader!
Only 1/2 of the party from cycle 1 may be in the party for this cycle, and syllogism, as the leader from the last event, is ineligible for the same position!!!! here Acro. Maybe you didn't read this. I read that shit. I fail to see your point. You have some knowledge about what a frame busser does that is before Marv's explanation, because I sure as fuck don't. Marv claims it only busses roles, not damage. Where does he get that info?
I re-read it when you were asking about how Marv knew that and I read Frame busser as someone who busses alignments not anything else. I guess I could be wrong?
Could you explain the difference between a "frame busser" and a "busser" role?
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I'm like 12 pages behind right now, and catching up. I figured I'd bring this particular quote up right now.
On November 26 2012 07:04 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 06:49 Promethelax wrote:On November 26 2012 02:38 Keirathi wrote:
While I would normally agree with this, since today isn't a lynch day and we can do nothing about Toad today, I don't think its unreasonable to think he would have waited until tomorrow.
In fact, I would have expected both of them to wait until tomorrow. THAT'S what I find weird. there is town kp flying around. Why not make people aware of scum in our midst? I don't get this at all Keir. While we don't have a lynch we do have other abilities which we can use to eliminate scum players. I guess you have a point. I wasn't really thinking about town abilities like kush had that can just flat-out kill someone. I can't really imagine there are a ton of those floating around though. But, things like Robo's 50 damage per night, or a town ability that does 200 damage, or whatever would be pointless to use on someone like Toad. I mean, I only have 3 reference points (mine, kush's, and sandro's), but those kind of abilities aren't likely to result in a kill. Therefore when we lynch scum, all the damage we did to him before he gets lynched is just wasted abilities.
Assuming everyone has HP similar to the two players that have flipped, several of the claimed damaging abilities are nowhere close to enough to kill off a player. As such, it would be worth coordinating a target that all of us devote our efforts toward for this night and all future nights. I'm under the impression that it's highly unlikely scum have a second busser, so even if scum know what's coming I doubt there's much they could do about it.
What does everyone think?
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Yeah 2 checks are better than 1, also they were on different nights.
My post on why Chronicler could be scum is just playing devils advocate.
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On November 26 2012 14:05 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 13:56 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 26 2012 13:52 Acrofales wrote:On November 26 2012 13:48 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 26 2012 13:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cave, dont be petty. If you think that acro is scum, make a case. I don't need to anymore. There was no town reason to do what he did and he just ignores it. Simple and clean kill in my opinion. Fine. I thought I'd claim immediately. Then realized there wasn't a lynch. Why bother throwing that info out unless there IS a lynch (and it therefore helps town), or Toad is fucking with people's minds (and claming therefore helps town). I know you are the king of roleclaims, but I prefer to not throw all my info in the table and then whine every cycle that people will shoot me. Still no reason to throw your role claim out after TC's. 2-1 trade isn't nearly as nice as the 1-1 trade would have been. Sure it must of been annoying to not have any use on your 1 shot ability but thats Mafia. You could of lit up a scum target for every vigilante and role blocker but instead only did so after it was meaningless. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Also, you're not thinking straight. My info helps nail Toad, you agree? If it helps nail Toad and he flips scum, which I 100% think it does, then you can make the claim that my roleclaim is not alignment indicative as I might have been bussing. Go ahead and do that, but how the flying fuck does this suddenly make it a 2 for 1 trade for town? If Toad flips and he's town, then it's a 2 for 1 trade in favour of town. So.. yeah, that would make me the greatest derp in the history of herpaderps. In closing: you're an idiot.
Toad was already nailed by TC's claim. If you are town then you and TC will be shot by scum for your silliness.
If toad flips town he will have been framed and more than likely TC would be lynched before you allowing you to hide behind the shield of "OH NO HE WAS FRAMED!" as a "confirmed" town. True enough TC could possibly do the same but I find that less likely with regards to how he actually claimed.
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On November 26 2012 14:04 Promethelax wrote:
@Acro: stop being lazy. Last time I look up something that can EASILY be checked. Took me 3 clicks to find this post:
On November 26 2012 14:10 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 14:08 Acrofales wrote:On November 26 2012 14:03 Promethelax wrote:On November 25 2012 09:30 GreYMisT wrote: Cycle 3
Event: Race across site 32
2300 AD
WILL INSERT FLAVOR LATER Sandroba (Spekkio) was lynched!+ Show Spoiler [role PM] +Welcome To Chrono Trigger Mafia! You are Spekkio!. You are the Master of War! You have control over all elements of magic. Your abilities are the following: Water
Allows the use of 2 powers the next night. (does not accumulate)
Lightning
Full cycle roleblock on your target.
Shadow
Frame busses target with another target of your choice.
Fire
Burns target. Target takes 200 damage in 50 damage increments over 4 days.
Only allowed 1 fire active at a time.
You have 600 max HP.
You will be voting on another party leader!
Only 1/2 of the party from cycle 1 may be in the party for this cycle, and syllogism, as the leader from the last event, is ineligible for the same position!!!! here Acro. Maybe you didn't read this. I read that shit. I fail to see your point. You have some knowledge about what a frame busser does that is before Marv's explanation, because I sure as fuck don't. Marv claims it only busses roles, not damage. Where does he get that info? I re-read it when you were asking about how Marv knew that and I read Frame busser as someone who busses alignments not anything else. I guess I could be wrong? Could you explain the difference between a "frame busser" and a "busser" role?
I believe... yes... I think.... YES I DID FIND Promethelax. He was hiding here:
![[image loading]](http://www.tikihumor.com/wp-content/uploads/tiki-humor/2011/09/herpaderp-388x500.jpg)
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I agree with co-ordination on targets. Never actually out what you are doing to said targets but having only 2 targets per night will probably guarantee success.
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On November 26 2012 14:10 CaveJohnson wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 14:05 Acrofales wrote:On November 26 2012 13:56 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 26 2012 13:52 Acrofales wrote:On November 26 2012 13:48 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 26 2012 13:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cave, dont be petty. If you think that acro is scum, make a case. I don't need to anymore. There was no town reason to do what he did and he just ignores it. Simple and clean kill in my opinion. Fine. I thought I'd claim immediately. Then realized there wasn't a lynch. Why bother throwing that info out unless there IS a lynch (and it therefore helps town), or Toad is fucking with people's minds (and claming therefore helps town). I know you are the king of roleclaims, but I prefer to not throw all my info in the table and then whine every cycle that people will shoot me. Still no reason to throw your role claim out after TC's. 2-1 trade isn't nearly as nice as the 1-1 trade would have been. Sure it must of been annoying to not have any use on your 1 shot ability but thats Mafia. You could of lit up a scum target for every vigilante and role blocker but instead only did so after it was meaningless. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Also, you're not thinking straight. My info helps nail Toad, you agree? If it helps nail Toad and he flips scum, which I 100% think it does, then you can make the claim that my roleclaim is not alignment indicative as I might have been bussing. Go ahead and do that, but how the flying fuck does this suddenly make it a 2 for 1 trade for town? If Toad flips and he's town, then it's a 2 for 1 trade in favour of town. So.. yeah, that would make me the greatest derp in the history of herpaderps. In closing: you're an idiot. Toad was already nailed by TC's claim. If you are town then you and TC will be shot by scum for your silliness. If toad flips town he will have been framed and more than likely TC would be lynched before you allowing you to hide behind the shield of "OH NO HE WAS FRAMED!" as a "confirmed" town. True enough TC could possibly do the same but I find that less likely with regards to how he actually claimed.
scum has to shoot someone and Acro claimed his ability was one shot. I don't get it. Why does making himself a target make things bad for town? I'd say there are a few clear targets based on role and some on ability/confirmed status. Why is adding another to that list bad?
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Acro: sorry but I seem to be missing the joke since the image won't load for me. Based on the name I'll assume you are calling me dumb.
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On November 26 2012 14:10 CaveJohnson wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2012 14:05 Acrofales wrote:On November 26 2012 13:56 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 26 2012 13:52 Acrofales wrote:On November 26 2012 13:48 CaveJohnson wrote:On November 26 2012 13:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cave, dont be petty. If you think that acro is scum, make a case. I don't need to anymore. There was no town reason to do what he did and he just ignores it. Simple and clean kill in my opinion. Fine. I thought I'd claim immediately. Then realized there wasn't a lynch. Why bother throwing that info out unless there IS a lynch (and it therefore helps town), or Toad is fucking with people's minds (and claming therefore helps town). I know you are the king of roleclaims, but I prefer to not throw all my info in the table and then whine every cycle that people will shoot me. Still no reason to throw your role claim out after TC's. 2-1 trade isn't nearly as nice as the 1-1 trade would have been. Sure it must of been annoying to not have any use on your 1 shot ability but thats Mafia. You could of lit up a scum target for every vigilante and role blocker but instead only did so after it was meaningless. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Also, you're not thinking straight. My info helps nail Toad, you agree? If it helps nail Toad and he flips scum, which I 100% think it does, then you can make the claim that my roleclaim is not alignment indicative as I might have been bussing. Go ahead and do that, but how the flying fuck does this suddenly make it a 2 for 1 trade for town? If Toad flips and he's town, then it's a 2 for 1 trade in favour of town. So.. yeah, that would make me the greatest derp in the history of herpaderps. In closing: you're an idiot. Toad was already nailed by TC's claim. If you are town then you and TC will be shot by scum for your silliness. If toad flips town he will have been framed and more than likely TC would be lynched before you allowing you to hide behind the shield of "OH NO HE WAS FRAMED!" as a "confirmed" town. True enough TC could possibly do the same but I find that less likely with regards to how he actually claimed.
If you think I'm scum. Say so. Otherwise just shut the fuck up.
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I think that consolidating night actions as town isnt good because it allows scum to use protective stuff on those people, which I think that they must have.
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On November 26 2012 08:03 Clarity_nl wrote:
No, he means 10. Pull out your calculator, boys.
I'm sure people already pointed this out, but the seriously fucking dumb and failing at basic arythmetic is strong in this one.
Time between first two numbers: 10
Time between second two numbers: 12
Watching the fail on Prom and Clarity's faces: Priceless.
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On November 26 2012 14:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think that consolidating night actions as town isnt good because it allows scum to use protective stuff on those people, which I think that they must have.
There are some roles that get around stuff like that. Also Acro I just hate the roleclaim and I don't want you to hide behind a confirmed town status as a result of it.
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failing at basic spelling is also pretty bad Acro. arithmetic. Especially with spellcheck :D
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