EPTFirst Chris says that Jessica rejected a personal sponsorship for MMA and Boxer.
Then Jessica, basically, threatens Razer to say that it was Manager J alone.
Then Razer comes back and says that it was manager J, but also deletes the tweet.
D r a m a
Razer's remarks on MMA personal sponsorship cutoff - Page 12
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Prplppleatr
United States1518 Posts
First Chris says that Jessica rejected a personal sponsorship for MMA and Boxer. Then Jessica, basically, threatens Razer to say that it was Manager J alone. Then Razer comes back and says that it was manager J, but also deletes the tweet. D r a m a | ||
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achan1058
1091 Posts
On October 24 2012 15:59 Talin wrote: I don't know what's considered "proof" in Korea, but I certainly wouldn't consider anything she released a proof for any of her claims. She released a phone call that made Crank look bad in Korea because he raised his voice, cried, and addressed elders informally - that whole conversation was just a lot of smoke and nothing of real importance. It doesn't prove anything. To me, it proved that she recorded the phone call...... | ||
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lambac0re
United States77 Posts
On October 24 2012 16:00 Prplppleatr wrote: So... First Chris says that Jessica rejected a personal sponsorship for MMA and Boxer. Then Jessica, basically, threatens Razer to say that it was Manager J alone. Then Razer comes back and says that it was manager J, but also deletes the tweet. D r a m a Please don't make things up, that isn't what happened at all. | ||
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Broodwurst
Germany1586 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/mDb6b.png) User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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bduddy
United States1326 Posts
https://twitter.com/chuljung This matches the supposed name of "Manager J", and is being followed by @teamslayers, which appears to be the Slayers team Twitter that he controlled while he was there. (@slayersclan, the one that pre-emptively tweeted the news about Slayers disbanding, is a much newer account with only 244 followers that is apparently not official) | ||
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Proseat
Germany5113 Posts
http://www.it.com.cn/f/games/0810/24/678235.htm + Show Spoiler [Google Translate working decently] + http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.it.com.cn%2Ff%2Fgames%2F0810%2F24%2F678235.htm Seems this guy did really get around already for his young age (born in Germany, worked for SK, then Fnatic and Razer in Korea etc.). Wonder why SlayerS or sponsors did not press legal charges against him as he seems to be the culprit for most problems. | ||
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Prplppleatr
United States1518 Posts
On October 24 2012 16:01 lambac0re wrote: Please don't make things up, that isn't what happened at all. ? I'm not making anything up. Did you even bother to read the sources cited? The OP says: + Show Spoiler + Chris Mitchel stated, "Corporation R did have an interest in a personal sponsorship with you." Then, "I should probably add that the individual sponsorship offer for Boxer was also rejected at the same time. So they might have just put the entire team above individual players. Regards Chris Mitchell" And it was jessica who rejected them. Then, Jessica responds with, "... Chris, you don't have a right to say that... It's all connected.. You don't understand that I'm hiding something for [someone/ambiguous]. I'm off to check. Chris... we didn't talk about a new sponrsorship, you talked to manager J. Clarify whether this is this Razer's stance... or the stance of Chris who talked to manager J. Then I'll prepare." (Sounds threatening to me) Next, Razer responds with the deleted tweet stating that Chris was talking to manager J and Jessica had no knowledge because of J. PS. this all assumes that Razer-right is Chris Mitchells Reddit. Which I am taking the assumption since that is how the OP, waxangel, presented it. | ||
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S_SienZ
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On October 24 2012 16:14 S_SienZ wrote: I don't get it, doesn't it make sense that whoever it is rejects Razer since SlayerS at the time was probably partnered with EG? No it doesn't make sense. Slayers started partnership with EG in October 2011. At that time, they are still sponsored by Razer. Therefore, the partnership was done even the teams represented rival companies. | ||
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Traceback
United States469 Posts
On October 24 2012 16:14 S_SienZ wrote: I don't get it, doesn't it make sense that whoever it is rejects Razer since SlayerS at the time was probably partnered with EG? Oh wow, your right. Manager J must be Sir Scoots with his dirty cursed money! | ||
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
On October 24 2012 16:00 Mozzery wrote: and as Waxangel has posted many times, Jessica has managed to contradict herself already with her statements On October 24 2012 15:22 Waxangel wrote: btw whatever happened to this? "Q: What about his assertion on hiding information on transfers? A: I hid nothing. I search for teams because he wanted to move to a foreign team. A foreign team asked me how much it would cost to transfer MMA. So I simply stated his value. I told this team how much it would be after combining their offer on salaries, various costs for taking care of MMA, and the money needed to be paid to me for his remaining contractual period. I actually said that it would be better for them to use this amount to acquire our team as a whole. But I never received any replies. The negotiation didn't fail, but rather I simply replied to their request and even suggested an acquisition." doesn't that directly contradict her denial of blocking a foreign move by calling a big transfer fee? Obviously, she has made obvious mistake number one by admitting to having the cost of MMA=the cost of acquiring Slayers as a whole. Or more likely, the cost of acquiring MMA is a disproportionate amount of the team considering the SlayerS branding and the costs of all the other players, something like 30%, and that losing MMA would be so detrimental to the team name that it would be more worth it to buy the entire team if you're looking to spend this much money on MMA? I really hate all the drama, and all the flak people are giving Jessica. I don't understand why people care about her reputation as a drama queen, and I don't care how she got that name because it's a stupid name. Stop judging people before all the facts are out, and stop acting like you know the story, like jerks do. There's clearly something big going on, and it's clearly way more convoluted than both sides are admitting, based on how much information they're holding back in case they make a mistake. So stop acting more like kids than them. And for the love of God, be more respectful to people. Don't stand on this moral high ground you invented for yourself when you don't know exactly how and why they acted in this manner. Crank maybe, MMA maybe, but Jessica when you know that she has actually done so much for the team, and is holding back other information? I don't see you attacking Cella with the same tenacity. Jeez. | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On October 24 2012 16:18 Veldril wrote: No it doesn't make sense. Slayers started partnership with EG in October 2011. At that time, they are still sponsored by Razer. Therefore, the partnership was done even the teams represented rival companies. Pretty sure SlayerS had dropped Razer as a sponsor. That was the reason the partnership took so long to be established. By partnership I mean competing together in GSTL | ||
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Proseat
Germany5113 Posts
On October 24 2012 16:06 bduddy wrote: Found him, I think: https://twitter.com/chuljung This matches the supposed name of "Manager J", and is being followed by @teamslayers, which appears to be the Slayers team Twitter that he controlled while he was there. (@slayersclan, the one that pre-emptively tweeted the news about Slayers disbanding, is a much newer account with only 244 followers that is apparently not official) This tweet pretty much proves it is him: Chul Jung @chuljung @MLGLee hey jessica told me that you re looking for me. what up? 1:08 AM - 4 Feb 12 · Details | ||
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GungraveHero2
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bduddy
United States1326 Posts
On October 24 2012 16:14 S_SienZ wrote: The official Slayers/EG partnership wasn't until this May, which is after all of this happened... I think? There were EG players staying at Slayers since last October, though, and I don't know if that would represent a conflict or not. Also, I'm curious if any of this ties into the ending of that partnership... back then it seems like most people thought EG just wanted to enter GSTL on their own, but now...?I don't get it, doesn't it make sense that whoever it is rejects Razer since SlayerS at the time was probably partnered with EG? | ||
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ramask2
Thailand1024 Posts
On October 24 2012 16:11 Prplppleatr wrote: ? I'm not making anything up. The OP says: + Show Spoiler + Chris Mitchel stated, "Corporation R did have an interest in a personal sponsorship with you." Then, "I should probably add that the individual sponsorship offer for Boxer was also rejected at the same time. So they might have just put the entire team above individual players. Regards Chris Mitchell" And it was jessica who rejected them. Then, Jessica responds with, "... Chris, you don't have a right to say that... It's all connected.. You don't understand that I'm hiding something for [someone/ambiguous]. I'm off to check. Chris... we didn't talk about a new sponrsorship, you talked to manager J. Clarify whether this is this Razer's stance... or the stance of Chris who talked to manager J. Then I'll prepare." (Sounds threatening to me) Next, Razer responds with the deleted tweet stating that Chris was talking to manager J and Jessica had no knowledge because of J. PS. this all assumes that Razer-right is Chris Mitchells Reddit. Which I am taking the assumption since that is how the OP, waxangel, presented it. It was Razer Korea that deleted the tweet. Chris and by extension Razer Headquarter has maintained their original position. | ||
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Prplppleatr
United States1518 Posts
On October 24 2012 16:22 ramask2 wrote: It was Razer Korea that deleted the tweet. Chris and by extension Razer Headquarter has maintained their original position. That's what I said..."Razer responds with the deleted tweet stating.." | ||
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Misoza
Australia571 Posts
On October 24 2012 16:21 GungraveHero2 wrote: crank and mma kinda deserve what they got , for what they did The cultural differences between Korea and the rest of the western world has never been so palpable than when reading your posts regarding this matter. | ||
opterown
Australia54748 Posts
On October 24 2012 16:21 GungraveHero2 wrote: crank and mma kinda deserve what they got , for what they did so does jessica | ||
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