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wassbix
Canada499 Posts
On May 31 2012 03:15 Kiett wrote: So. The only group I desperately wanted tiebreakers in... didn't get it. Cool. There goes all my interest in this OSL ^_^ But Fantasy  | ||
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
wtf Edit: Nevermind didn't read entire op | ||
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bowen888
Canada31 Posts
On May 30 2012 15:15 J1.au wrote: Anyone picking Bogus is scared Flash will beat their favourite players.  Yo mean everyone picking Bogus is using their head to analysis the players rather than using their fanboyism doing their picking. | ||
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bowen888
Canada31 Posts
lol seems like 4/4 for me.. hehe | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On May 31 2012 08:55 bowen888 wrote: Yo mean everyone picking Bogus is using their head to analysis the players rather than using their fanboyism doing their picking. Exactly how is picking Bogus supposed to qualify as good analysis of the players? Bogus has been struggling HORRIBLY in the Terran vs Terran match-up. Prior to this match, Flash was 4-1 since the break against tough competition, 10-3 in the past 12 months, 56-17 in the past 24 months, highest ELO vs Terran and highest ELO peak vs Terran. Bogus is not even top 25 ELO vs Terran or top 25 ELO peak, HAD NOT WON A SINGLE GAME vs TERRAN SINCE THE BREAK (0-6), 5-7 past 12 months, 13-15 past 24 months. Head-to-head he was 0-3 against Flash. Even if we look at the map, Bogus had only a 2-4 record on Sniper Ridge compared to Flash's 4-1 record. There is absolutely nothing there to indicate that Bogus had a good chance of victory. | ||
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GhostOwl
766 Posts
User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On May 31 2012 10:33 Katsuge wrote: when are the tiebreakers? 5th June at 7.30pm KST | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
augh how anyone could be happy with Soo winning and having no stork in an OSL is beyond me, I'm an action fan and i like bogus but same idea with flash being out of the OSL. WHY? | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10340 Posts
On May 31 2012 09:59 Mortality wrote: Exactly how is picking Bogus supposed to qualify as good analysis of the players? Bogus has been struggling HORRIBLY in the Terran vs Terran match-up. Prior to this match, Flash was 4-1 since the break against tough competition, 10-3 in the past 12 months, 56-17 in the past 24 months, highest ELO vs Terran and highest ELO peak vs Terran. Bogus is not even top 25 ELO vs Terran or top 25 ELO peak, HAD NOT WON A SINGLE GAME vs TERRAN SINCE THE BREAK (0-6), 5-7 past 12 months, 13-15 past 24 months. Head-to-head he was 0-3 against Flash. Even if we look at the map, Bogus had only a 2-4 record on Sniper Ridge compared to Flash's 4-1 record. There is absolutely nothing there to indicate that Bogus had a good chance of victory. Pretty sure he meant analyzing this one game itself, not whatever it is your doing. Also, you seem upset. In addition that's what makes brood war great. Games aren't played on paper, or by the fans, anything can happen, and much to the dismay of Flash and JD fans, things do happen occasionally. Remember when even at the (or one of) the peaks of Flash's career, he lost like 5,6, or 7 consecutive ace matches, most (all?) to terrans? He was still the best overall player, but players can practice and plan accordingly and outplay Flash. He's just human after all. What's the big deal? He's not even eliminated yet. | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10340 Posts
On May 31 2012 10:40 Caihead wrote: augh how anyone could be happy with Soo winning and having no stork in an OSL is beyond me, I'm an action fan and i like bogus but same idea with flash being out of the OSL. WHY? Stork taunited Soo confidently at the ceremony and lost (SoO cited it as dismissive but motivating). He 2 gated zero and lost. He's planted the seeds of his own defeat. Would I prefer an OSL with Stork instead of SoO? About a thousand times over, yes. But OSLs aren't popularity contests. Also, tiebreakers galore. | ||
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AdrianInzunza
Mexico44 Posts
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
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bowen888
Canada31 Posts
On May 31 2012 09:59 Mortality wrote: Exactly how is picking Bogus supposed to qualify as good analysis of the players? Bogus has been struggling HORRIBLY in the Terran vs Terran match-up. Prior to this match, Flash was 4-1 since the break against tough competition, 10-3 in the past 12 months, 56-17 in the past 24 months, highest ELO vs Terran and highest ELO peak vs Terran. Bogus is not even top 25 ELO vs Terran or top 25 ELO peak, HAD NOT WON A SINGLE GAME vs TERRAN SINCE THE BREAK (0-6), 5-7 past 12 months, 13-15 past 24 months. Head-to-head he was 0-3 against Flash. Even if we look at the map, Bogus had only a 2-4 record on Sniper Ridge compared to Flash's 4-1 record. There is absolutely nothing there to indicate that Bogus had a good chance of victory. Your just sore that your favourite player lost...Grow up! | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
On May 31 2012 10:32 Caihead wrote: Why are people saying fantasy is underrated? Protege of Boxer / iloveoov / SKT coaching. Early and consistent deep tournament results against TBLS. Just being the terran under boxer / iloveoov already got him more hype than flash ever did until flash won multiple golds. As far as people making fun of him goes, it's because he was overrated and made eccentric builds and refused to GG (which are characteristic of lesser players, which is why the comparison is funny). He hit a bump in 2011 but so do all players, fantasy fans (i'm one of them) should stop pretending they are cheering for an underdog when he's clearly got the most resources of any terran in the league teammate /practice partner wise, coaching wise, and resources wise. Fantasy has never been put on the same level as Bisu or Stork, nor considered Code S, despite far better SL results than both and sometimes better PL results. Only recently did he get 1st rank on the power rank. He has NEVER lost a PL post-season game and has come up big in the biggest moments. He easily won against Stork but wasn't considered the favorite in the next season, maybe not even in the top 3. People, for whatever reason, have never looked at Fantasy in the same light as others like TBLS. Add in people saying his success is only because of Oov and Boxer and you get a lot of fans who do think he is underrated. | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2346 Posts
^_^ edit: But don't think this means that he didn't luck out in beating Stork 3-0 with superior preparation and inferior SKILLS because obv~ | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
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Ryo
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