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On May 31 2012 01:40 SCnai wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 01:34 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
Oh god... if Flash doesn't get out this group...
Can't believe he lost that, how do tiebreakers work? All play against each other again? All the players with the same record (second best after the winner of the group) play each other. If no-one wins both games, repeat. This means the tie breakers can in principle go to infinity.
Ah I get it, thanks. Flash should have the best chance to get out his group, as long as he beats Bogus. I don't see him losing against Action... pretty sure his last televised loss against a zerg was almost a year ago.
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On May 31 2012 00:38 hitthat wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 00:20 Sethronu wrote:
Not that this makes me sad in the slightest, as Fanta really is the most underrated and unlucky player in history of Starcraft. Fanta WAS underrated before his last OSL final, when he got 2nd final in a raw. That finals shut so many nonbelievers... If we are talking about potential chances, my bets- -Flash is still in play and I dont see him losing ties, so he is still one of favorites to take gold. He doesnt sim to be so unbeatable thou. -Fantasy is a beast in BoX, Bo3 is the the only solid chance to beat him without trouble, as in Bo5 he is a nightmare for any oponent, and i remember only 1 series when he was beaten 3-1 (memorable semi vs Jeadong). Even during his slump he was capable of fight a incredible series versus many top players. -Jangbi...well, i underrestimated him last time, now i will not talk about his chances. He is just too big enigma. -Zero - not in form, still I will not discount him. Zero in top form is incredible -Soulkey - made Fantasy his favorite bitch in MSL, but in Bo5 he may have a difficulties. I dont see him being capable of beating Flash thou, not in Bo5 at last. His chances are good. -Soo - i have no idea, maybe if Fanta will die in Bo3 or semi and Flash will not make it through. -Shine - I see him heaving good chance if flash wont make it and he wont meet Fanta in Bo5.
Let me lay out the Fantasy line:
2008- The next Terran in the line of SKT comes forward. Makes it to the OSL finals and loses. He'll dominate next year.
2009- Okay he lost in another finals, but it's Jaedong, so it's understandable.
Later in 2009- Wow, he just can't win against Jaedong, maybe he peaked.
2010- Flash is pretty good, Fantasy definitely hit his peak a year ago.
Late 2010- HOLY SHIT!!! Fantasy din't hit his peak 2 years ago, he's pretty awesome.
First half of 2011- Wow never mind. This is literally the worst play I've ever seen. Really Fantasy? The B-Team?
Late 2011 til Now- Fantasy is probably the best BW player in the world right now. He really got his shit together. To bad BW is in it's death throws.
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Flash in danger of not making it to the ro8.
When are the tiebreakers?
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On May 30 2012 14:44 bowen888 wrote:
Bogus/ Fantasy/hyvaa/Soo
You heard it here first!!!
I knew this would happen! Sad for Stork though.
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Just watched the VODs.
That hyvaa vs Soulkey made me really hate the volatility of ZvZ  Poor Soulkey he looked like he didn't want to gg before leaving.
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So. The only group I desperately wanted tiebreakers in... didn't get it. Cool.
There goes all my interest in this OSL ^_^
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On May 31 2012 03:15 Kiett wrote:
So. The only group I desperately wanted tiebreakers in... didn't get it. Cool.
There goes all my interest in this OSL ^_^
... hurting e-sports ! /rant off
Zero not qt enough for you? Jangbanger not protoss enough?
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No Stork makes me so sad
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On May 31 2012 02:24 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 00:38 hitthat wrote:On May 31 2012 00:20 Sethronu wrote:
Not that this makes me sad in the slightest, as Fanta really is the most underrated and unlucky player in history of Starcraft. Fanta WAS underrated before his last OSL final, when he got 2nd final in a raw. That finals shut so many nonbelievers... If we are talking about potential chances, my bets- -Flash is still in play and I dont see him losing ties, so he is still one of favorites to take gold. He doesnt sim to be so unbeatable thou. -Fantasy is a beast in BoX, Bo3 is the the only solid chance to beat him without trouble, as in Bo5 he is a nightmare for any oponent, and i remember only 1 series when he was beaten 3-1 (memorable semi vs Jeadong). Even during his slump he was capable of fight a incredible series versus many top players. -Jangbi...well, i underrestimated him last time, now i will not talk about his chances. He is just too big enigma. -Zero - not in form, still I will not discount him. Zero in top form is incredible -Soulkey - made Fantasy his favorite bitch in MSL, but in Bo5 he may have a difficulties. I dont see him being capable of beating Flash thou, not in Bo5 at last. His chances are good. -Soo - i have no idea, maybe if Fanta will die in Bo3 or semi and Flash will not make it through. -Shine - I see him heaving good chance if flash wont make it and he wont meet Fanta in Bo5. Let me lay out the Fantasy line: 2008- The next Terran in the line of SKT comes forward. Makes it to the OSL finals and loses. He'll dominate next year. 2009- Okay he lost in another finals, but it's Jaedong, so it's understandable. Later in 2009- Wow, he just can't win against Jaedong, maybe he peaked. 2010- Flash is pretty good, Fantasy definitely hit his peak a year ago. Late 2010- HOLY SHIT!!! Fantasy din't hit his peak 2 years ago, he's pretty awesome. First half of 2011- Wow never mind. This is literally the worst play I've ever seen. Really Fantasy? The B-Team? Late 2011 til Now- Fantasy is probably the best BW player in the world right now. He really got his shit together. To bad BW is in it's death throws.
Fantasy were allways considered second to flash allways till the PL finals, maybe fantasy had better tvp than flash but flashes tvt (and tvz especially) were still considered better.
Still, counting flash out is dangerous, he's gone into rape and pillage mode after getting smacked on before, he can do it again.
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When are the OSL tie-breakers anyway? Be pretty sad to see Flash out this early.
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Sad that stork is out already(No chance for the last gold or silver >_>), fanta is looking pretty dominant this season tho!
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Sigh. I really wanted Grape and Horang2 to win. oh well.
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really cool play from fantasy, using old school build and really making the most of it.Although the loser kinda lost his nerves I think.
his face most of the game was like yawn rape ez bring me teh carriers
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No Stork makes me lose my interest of this OSL by 50% T_T ..
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whoa, 3 tiebreak groups... this is why OSL should have been round robin but with two games against everyone ala champions league groups.
still this is the last OSL so I guess the more games the merrie x-x
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So soO kinda killed 2 Protoss with that win...argl...P can't catch a break
But disregarding the circumstances, WOOOOOO~~~~
SOOOO~~~~
MA BOI <3
stick it to the man TL
Party in the Beerstonian Republic!
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Tiebreakers! Tiebreakers! Tiebreakers!
Here's hoping for some more never ending tiebreaks! ...but ugh Horangee failed Stork
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When are the tiebreakers?
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wow bogus vs flash was a fantastic game. that was the best TvT I've ever seen bogus play, which is amazing considering his long TvT lose-streak.
fantasy looks fucking invincible in every MU right now. goddamn.
so tiebreakers for 2nd place in groups 1-3? did they say when they tie-breakers will take place?
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On May 31 2012 04:19 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 02:24 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote:On May 31 2012 00:38 hitthat wrote:On May 31 2012 00:20 Sethronu wrote:
Not that this makes me sad in the slightest, as Fanta really is the most underrated and unlucky player in history of Starcraft. Fanta WAS underrated before his last OSL final, when he got 2nd final in a raw. That finals shut so many nonbelievers... If we are talking about potential chances, my bets- -Flash is still in play and I dont see him losing ties, so he is still one of favorites to take gold. He doesnt sim to be so unbeatable thou. -Fantasy is a beast in BoX, Bo3 is the the only solid chance to beat him without trouble, as in Bo5 he is a nightmare for any oponent, and i remember only 1 series when he was beaten 3-1 (memorable semi vs Jeadong). Even during his slump he was capable of fight a incredible series versus many top players. -Jangbi...well, i underrestimated him last time, now i will not talk about his chances. He is just too big enigma. -Zero - not in form, still I will not discount him. Zero in top form is incredible -Soulkey - made Fantasy his favorite bitch in MSL, but in Bo5 he may have a difficulties. I dont see him being capable of beating Flash thou, not in Bo5 at last. His chances are good. -Soo - i have no idea, maybe if Fanta will die in Bo3 or semi and Flash will not make it through. -Shine - I see him heaving good chance if flash wont make it and he wont meet Fanta in Bo5. Let me lay out the Fantasy line: 2008- The next Terran in the line of SKT comes forward. Makes it to the OSL finals and loses. He'll dominate next year. 2009- Okay he lost in another finals, but it's Jaedong, so it's understandable. Later in 2009- Wow, he just can't win against Jaedong, maybe he peaked. 2010- Flash is pretty good, Fantasy definitely hit his peak a year ago. Late 2010- HOLY SHIT!!! Fantasy din't hit his peak 2 years ago, he's pretty awesome. First half of 2011- Wow never mind. This is literally the worst play I've ever seen. Really Fantasy? The B-Team? Late 2011 til Now- Fantasy is probably the best BW player in the world right now. He really got his shit together. To bad BW is in it's death throws. Fantasy were allways considered second to flash allways till the PL finals, maybe fantasy had better tvp than flash but flashes tvt (and tvz especially) were still considered better.
That's the thing about Fantasy, though. Everyone knows he's a good player, and his play is very stylistic and most of the time fun to watch - but he never really got the recognition or attention he deserves. There's been like, dozens of players who aren't nearly as hard-working, skilled, or fun to watch as Fantasy who were discussed and hyped more than him. Just take the last OSL finals - sure, Jangbi's was a cute storyline as well, but what makes him so much more special than Fantasy? And yet, he's had like ten times the support of Fanta's. Or the last PL final - he was literally the guy who brought SKT there, and yet Bisu grabs the spotlight once again. I can't help but feel bad for him, really. :p
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