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wassbix
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada499 Posts
May 30 2012 22:16 GMT
#701
On May 31 2012 03:15 Kiett wrote:
So. The only group I desperately wanted tiebreakers in... didn't get it. Cool.

There goes all my interest in this OSL ^_^


But Fantasy
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 22:47:07
May 30 2012 22:40 GMT
#702
1/4 for predictions
wtf
Edit: Nevermind didn't read entire op
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
bowen888
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada31 Posts
May 30 2012 23:55 GMT
#703
On May 30 2012 15:15 J1.au wrote:
Anyone picking Bogus is scared Flash will beat their favourite players.

Yo mean everyone picking Bogus is using their head to analysis the players rather than using their fanboyism doing their picking.
Jaedong and Team 8!! GOGO!!
bowen888
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada31 Posts
May 31 2012 00:06 GMT
#704
On May 30 2012 15:03 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 14:44 bowen888 wrote:
Bogus/ Fantasy/hyvaa/Soo
You heard it here first!!!


lol the anti-prediction to my prediction

lol seems like 4/4 for me.. hehe
Jaedong and Team 8!! GOGO!!
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
May 31 2012 00:21 GMT
#705
Tiebreakers in group Z
☺
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
May 31 2012 00:59 GMT
#706
On May 31 2012 08:55 bowen888 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 15:15 J1.au wrote:
Anyone picking Bogus is scared Flash will beat their favourite players.

Yo mean everyone picking Bogus is using their head to analysis the players rather than using their fanboyism doing their picking.


Exactly how is picking Bogus supposed to qualify as good analysis of the players? Bogus has been struggling HORRIBLY in the Terran vs Terran match-up.

Prior to this match, Flash was 4-1 since the break against tough competition, 10-3 in the past 12 months, 56-17 in the past 24 months, highest ELO vs Terran and highest ELO peak vs Terran.

Bogus is not even top 25 ELO vs Terran or top 25 ELO peak, HAD NOT WON A SINGLE GAME vs TERRAN SINCE THE BREAK (0-6), 5-7 past 12 months, 13-15 past 24 months. Head-to-head he was 0-3 against Flash. Even if we look at the map, Bogus had only a 2-4 record on Sniper Ridge compared to Flash's 4-1 record.

There is absolutely nothing there to indicate that Bogus had a good chance of victory.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
GhostOwl
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
766 Posts
May 31 2012 01:08 GMT
#707
Terran so broken it takes another Terran to beat one. Especially at Flash's level. TvZ? TvP? Bring on those Ultras and Goons, I got 2000 free mines bitches!

User was temp banned for this post.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 01:34:20
May 31 2012 01:32 GMT
#708
Why are people saying fantasy is underrated? Protege of Boxer / iloveoov / SKT coaching. Early and consistent deep tournament results against TBLS. Just being the terran under boxer / iloveoov already got him more hype than flash ever did until flash won multiple golds. As far as people making fun of him goes, it's because he was overrated and made eccentric builds and refused to GG (which are characteristic of lesser players, which is why the comparison is funny). He hit a bump in 2011 but so do all players, fantasy fans (i'm one of them) should stop pretending they are cheering for an underdog when he's clearly got the most resources of any terran in the league teammate /practice partner wise, coaching wise, and resources wise.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
May 31 2012 01:33 GMT
#709
when are the tiebreakers?
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
May 31 2012 01:34 GMT
#710
On May 31 2012 10:33 Katsuge wrote:
when are the tiebreakers?


5th June at 7.30pm KST
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
May 31 2012 01:40 GMT
#711
On May 31 2012 09:06 bowen888 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 15:03 Caihead wrote:
On May 30 2012 14:44 bowen888 wrote:
Bogus/ Fantasy/hyvaa/Soo
You heard it here first!!!


lol the anti-prediction to my prediction

lol seems like 4/4 for me.. hehe


augh how anyone could be happy with Soo winning and having no stork in an OSL is beyond me, I'm an action fan and i like bogus but same idea with flash being out of the OSL. WHY?
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
May 31 2012 02:28 GMT
#712
On May 31 2012 09:59 Mortality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 08:55 bowen888 wrote:
On May 30 2012 15:15 J1.au wrote:
Anyone picking Bogus is scared Flash will beat their favourite players.

Yo mean everyone picking Bogus is using their head to analysis the players rather than using their fanboyism doing their picking.


Exactly how is picking Bogus supposed to qualify as good analysis of the players? Bogus has been struggling HORRIBLY in the Terran vs Terran match-up.

Prior to this match, Flash was 4-1 since the break against tough competition, 10-3 in the past 12 months, 56-17 in the past 24 months, highest ELO vs Terran and highest ELO peak vs Terran.

Bogus is not even top 25 ELO vs Terran or top 25 ELO peak, HAD NOT WON A SINGLE GAME vs TERRAN SINCE THE BREAK (0-6), 5-7 past 12 months, 13-15 past 24 months. Head-to-head he was 0-3 against Flash. Even if we look at the map, Bogus had only a 2-4 record on Sniper Ridge compared to Flash's 4-1 record.

There is absolutely nothing there to indicate that Bogus had a good chance of victory.

Pretty sure he meant analyzing this one game itself, not whatever it is your doing.

Also, you seem upset.

In addition that's what makes brood war great. Games aren't played on paper, or by the fans, anything can happen, and much to the dismay of Flash and JD fans, things do happen occasionally. Remember when even at the (or one of) the peaks of Flash's career, he lost like 5,6, or 7 consecutive ace matches, most (all?) to terrans? He was still the best overall player, but players can practice and plan accordingly and outplay Flash. He's just human after all. What's the big deal? He's not even eliminated yet.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
May 31 2012 02:36 GMT
#713
On May 31 2012 10:40 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 09:06 bowen888 wrote:
On May 30 2012 15:03 Caihead wrote:
On May 30 2012 14:44 bowen888 wrote:
Bogus/ Fantasy/hyvaa/Soo
You heard it here first!!!


lol the anti-prediction to my prediction

lol seems like 4/4 for me.. hehe


augh how anyone could be happy with Soo winning and having no stork in an OSL is beyond me, I'm an action fan and i like bogus but same idea with flash being out of the OSL. WHY?

Stork taunited Soo confidently at the ceremony and lost (SoO cited it as dismissive but motivating). He 2 gated zero and lost. He's planted the seeds of his own defeat.

Would I prefer an OSL with Stork instead of SoO? About a thousand times over, yes. But OSLs aren't popularity contests.

Also, tiebreakers galore.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
AdrianInzunza
Profile Joined December 2010
Mexico44 Posts
May 31 2012 02:41 GMT
#714
FataSy will take the gold hes playin pretty damn good!
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
May 31 2012 02:44 GMT
#715
Ahh... just watched the vods. All games pissed me off. Seeing SK like that is so heartbreaking.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
bowen888
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada31 Posts
May 31 2012 03:16 GMT
#716
On May 31 2012 09:59 Mortality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 08:55 bowen888 wrote:
On May 30 2012 15:15 J1.au wrote:
Anyone picking Bogus is scared Flash will beat their favourite players.

Yo mean everyone picking Bogus is using their head to analysis the players rather than using their fanboyism doing their picking.


Exactly how is picking Bogus supposed to qualify as good analysis of the players? Bogus has been struggling HORRIBLY in the Terran vs Terran match-up.

Prior to this match, Flash was 4-1 since the break against tough competition, 10-3 in the past 12 months, 56-17 in the past 24 months, highest ELO vs Terran and highest ELO peak vs Terran.

Bogus is not even top 25 ELO vs Terran or top 25 ELO peak, HAD NOT WON A SINGLE GAME vs TERRAN SINCE THE BREAK (0-6), 5-7 past 12 months, 13-15 past 24 months. Head-to-head he was 0-3 against Flash. Even if we look at the map, Bogus had only a 2-4 record on Sniper Ridge compared to Flash's 4-1 record.

There is absolutely nothing there to indicate that Bogus had a good chance of victory.

Your just sore that your favourite player lost...Grow up!
Jaedong and Team 8!! GOGO!!
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
May 31 2012 03:40 GMT
#717
On May 31 2012 10:32 Caihead wrote:
Why are people saying fantasy is underrated? Protege of Boxer / iloveoov / SKT coaching. Early and consistent deep tournament results against TBLS. Just being the terran under boxer / iloveoov already got him more hype than flash ever did until flash won multiple golds. As far as people making fun of him goes, it's because he was overrated and made eccentric builds and refused to GG (which are characteristic of lesser players, which is why the comparison is funny). He hit a bump in 2011 but so do all players, fantasy fans (i'm one of them) should stop pretending they are cheering for an underdog when he's clearly got the most resources of any terran in the league teammate /practice partner wise, coaching wise, and resources wise.


Fantasy has never been put on the same level as Bisu or Stork, nor considered Code S, despite far better SL results than both and sometimes better PL results. Only recently did he get 1st rank on the power rank. He has NEVER lost a PL post-season game and has come up big in the biggest moments. He easily won against Stork but wasn't considered the favorite in the next season, maybe not even in the top 3. People, for whatever reason, have never looked at Fantasy in the same light as others like TBLS. Add in people saying his success is only because of Oov and Boxer and you get a lot of fans who do think he is underrated.
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 04:03:09
May 31 2012 04:02 GMT
#718
Fantasy is a great player. I used to be the biggest anti-fan of his, I still kinda wanna see him fail, but now I have no choice but to admit that he really is awesome. Plus, he has less annoying fanboys than Flash, so I'll call him superior at every turn I can

^_^


edit: But don't think this means that he didn't luck out in beating Stork 3-0 with superior preparation and inferior SKILLS because obv~
The original Bogus fan.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
May 31 2012 04:28 GMT
#719
Fantasy has like literally no competitor in this OSL anymore.














Except for shine
☺
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
May 31 2012 04:34 GMT
#720
Nah, Shine can't beat Fantasy. Fantasy's only competitor is Jangbi, as long as Jangbi continues to think he's destined to win the last OSL.
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