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Sawamura
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Rwv3e.png) Banner by blind rawr 2012 TVing Starleague Round Of 16 Wednesday May 30 10:30 GMT (+00:00)  2012 Tving OSL ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/cCYtg.png)  Bogus < New Sniper Ridge > Flash Grape < Neo Ground Zero > Fantasy Neo.G_Soulkey < Neo Electric Circuit > hyvaaHorang2 < Gladiator > n.Die_soO![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xlE1g.png) + Show Spoiler [Overall] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/cQyZQ.png) + Show Spoiler [Overall] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/LHfpB.png) bgvrt Esportstv | ||
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Sawamura
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Who will Win ???? Poll: Bogus v Flash Flash (39) Bogus (10) 49 total votes Your vote: Bogus v Flash Poll: Grape v Fantasy Fantasy (37) Grape (9) 46 total votes Your vote: Grape v Fantasy Poll: Neo.G_Soulkey v hyvaa Neo.G_Soulkey (32) hyvaa (7) 39 total votes Your vote: Neo.G_Soulkey v hyvaa Poll: Horang2 v n.Die_soO Horang2 (23) n.Die_soO (19) 42 total votes Your vote: Horang2 v n.Die_soO BONUS ROUNDDDDDDDDDDD ![[image loading]](http://www.fomos.kr/board/issue/1242616382_1.jpg) Group A Jangbi advances regardless If Flash > Bogus, Flash advances If Bogus > Flash, there's a 3 way tie between Flash, Action and Bogus, all at 1-2 Group B Fantasy advances regardless If Fantasy > Grape, there's a 3 Way tie between Grape, mini and Rush If Grape > Fantasy, Grape advances Group C Shine advances regardless If Neo.G_Soulkey > hyvaa, SoulKey advances If hyvaa > Neo.G_Soulkey , there's a 3 Way tie between Neo.G_Soulkey , Hydra and hyvaa Group D ZerO advances regardless If n.Die_soO > Horang2, SoO advances If Horang2 > n.Die_soO , there's a 3 Way tie between n.Die_soO , Stork and Horang 2 Thanks to Ngun In the event that rematches are needed, they will take place on 5th June at 7.30pm KST, until a winner is determined. Thanks to ryo | ||
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Caihead
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bowen888
Canada31 Posts
You heard it here first!!! | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On May 30 2012 14:44 bowen888 wrote: Bogus/ Fantasy/hyvaa/Soo You heard it here first!!! lol the anti-prediction to my prediction | ||
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NguN
Australia1322 Posts
Group A Jangbi advances regardless If Flash > Bogus, Flash advances If Bogus > Flash, there's a 3 way tie between Flash, Action and Bogus, all at 1-2 Group B Fantasy advances regardless If Fantasy > Grape, there's a 3 way tie between Grape, Mini and Rush If Grape > Fantasy, Grape advances Group C Shine advances regardless If Soulkey > hyvaa, Soulkey advances If hyvaa > Soulkey, there's a 3 way tie between Soulkey, Hydra and hyvaa Group D Zero advances regardless If soO > Horang2, soO advances If Horang2 > soO, there's a 3 way tie between soO, Stork and Horang 2 | ||
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sixfour
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Zariel
Australia1285 Posts
For those who don't know: Group A: - If Flash wins, he will qualify for Ro8 - If Bogus wins, there will be a tiebreaker between him, Flash and Action. Group B: - If Fantasy wins, he will qualify for Ro8 and a tiebreaker between Grape, Mini and Rush - If Grape wins, he will qualify for Ro8 with Fantasy Group C: - If Soulkey wins, he will qualify for Ro8 - If Hyvaa wins, there will be a tiebreaker between him, Soulkey and Hydra Group D: - If Soo wins, he will qualify for Ro8 - If Horang2 wins, there will be a tiebreaker between him, Soo and Stork dunno if it should be added to OP edit: OMFG, got ninja'ed while I was having a phone call with a customer | ||
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J1.au
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metzninja
New Zealand626 Posts
On May 30 2012 15:15 Zariel wrote: + Show Spoiler + For those who don't know: Group A: - If Flash wins, he will qualify for Ro8 - If Bogus wins, there will be a tiebreaker between him, Flash and Action. Group B: - If Fantasy wins, he will qualify for Ro8 - If Grape wins, there will be a tiebreaker between him, Mini and Rush Group C: - If Soulkey wins, he will qualify for Ro8 - If Hyvaa wins, there will be a tiebreaker between him, Soulkey and Hydra Group D: - If Soo wins, he will qualify for Ro8 - If Horang2 wins, there will be a tiebreaker between him, Soo and Stork dunno if it should be added to OP edit: OMFG, got ninja'ed while I was having a phone call with a customer You got group B wrong anyway  | ||
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Misder
United States1557 Posts
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Ryo
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On May 30 2012 15:07 NguN wrote: Here are the possible tie breakers (let me know if I'm wrong) + Show Spoiler + Group A Jangbi advances regardless If Flash > Bogus, Flash advances If Bogus > Flash, there's a 3 way tie between Flash, Action and Bogus, all at 1-2 Group B Fantasy advances regardless If Fantasy > Grape, there's a 3 way tie between Grape, Mini and Rush If Grape > Fantasy, Grape advances Group C Shine advances regardless If Soulkey > hyvaa, Soulkey advances If hyvaa > Soulkey, there's a 3 way tie between Soulkey, Hydra and hyvaa Group D Zero advances regardless If soO > Horang2, soO advances If Horang2 > soO, there's a 3 way tie between soO, Stork and Horang 2 In the event that rematches are needed, they will take place on 5th June at 7.30pm KST, until a winner is determined. | ||
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Zariel
Australia1285 Posts
Ah yes, hahahaha | ||
BLinD-RawR
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banner.... | ||
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Ciryandor
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sharkie
Austria18407 Posts
On May 30 2012 15:15 J1.au wrote: Anyone picking Bogus is scared Flash will beat their favourite players. Or they just want more BW matches with the tie breaker? Nah... Everything evolves around Flash | ||
Kiett
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WTFTerran
Russian Federation286 Posts
LEE SHIN HYUNG <333 | ||
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red4ce
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DropBear
Australia4353 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Flash Fantasy Soulkey Horang2 Who will most likely win: all the same but | ||
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Kittan
Poland3999 Posts
Because, why not have 4 tiebreakers in my OSL, | ||
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Potling
Norway298 Posts
Click for hype | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
Damn, I'm going to miss that live  | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
![[image loading]](http://chat.sc2tv.ru/img/flash1.png?1) come on Flash! | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
On May 30 2012 18:47 endy wrote: Sorry soO but even as an SKT fan, you must lose to give Stork a chance to qualify. Damn, I'm going to miss that live Horang2 qualifying himself would be nice too All better that soo =.= | ||
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okum
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On May 30 2012 19:09 okum wrote: If Flash loses He is our ace dude how can you be so pessimistic T_T | ||
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
Bogus overall TvT skill level: 51% that sums it up pretty much KT fans should stop trolling | ||
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Sawamura
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Will ultimate weapon prevail over the bogus ?????? 11 more minutes to go Woooohoooooooooooooooooooooo | ||
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radadaundandan
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WakaDoDo
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tnud
Sweden2233 Posts
Need the top people to make it out from Ro16, a stacked Ro8 is what I want, what I NEED. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On May 30 2012 19:19 Sawamura wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5T5Whc8eCg Will ultimate weapon prevail over the bogus ?????? 11 more minutes to go Woooohoooooooooooooooooooooo I will let you decide.... But the answer is yes. | ||
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Sawamura
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
please at least 1 tiebreak.. GOOOO !! :D | ||
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Fenrax
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http://www.twitch.tv/bgvrt | ||
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c3rberUs
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Hoping for good games! | ||
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GeLaar
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Looking good for him. | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
On May 30 2012 19:10 Sawamura wrote: He is our ace dude how can you be so pessimistic T_T How can one be optimistic about anything BW-related in these dire days? | ||
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
please.. !!! :D | ||
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Sinedd
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On May 30 2012 19:37 okum wrote: How can one be optimistic about anything BW-related in these dire days? what do you mean ? lot of stuff happening all the time.. cheer up  go go go !!! | ||
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GeLaar
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On May 30 2012 19:37 okum wrote: How can one be optimistic about anything BW-related in these dire days? Yeah, but vs. Bogus?! Fantasy essentially pulled off a miracle. I'd be shocked if Bogus could play anywhere near that level. And it's hard to get lucky in TvT. | ||
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Kanil
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I like ZvZ. Go hyvaa! Make some tiebreaks. | ||
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538
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Sawamura
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On May 30 2012 19:37 okum wrote: How can one be optimistic about anything BW-related in these dire days? I blame kespas betrayal and sc2 .... | ||
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okum
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On May 30 2012 19:39 GeLaar wrote: Yeah, but vs. Bogus?! Fantasy essentially pulled off a miracle. I'd be shocked if Bogus could play anywhere near that level. And it's hard to get lucky in TvT. Ssak and Classic both did it... on the same day. I'm not taking anything for granted. | ||
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Fenrax
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Bogus teal T top | ||
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538
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On May 30 2012 19:42 Sawamura wrote: Can someone live reportu ? Sure. Flash places a proxy, but not early rax in the middle, Bogus opens rax first as well, so he will be fine. (Flash spawned in the bottom left, Bogus in top left on Sniper Ridge) | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On May 30 2012 19:43 Darksoldierr wrote: Who is who? guess whos proxy raxing...:p | ||
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Darksoldierr
Hungary2012 Posts
Yea, i just seen that :D | ||
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Sawamura
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On May 30 2012 19:43 538 wrote: Sure. Flash places a proxy, but not early rax in the middle, Bogus opens rax first as well, so he will be fine. (Flash spawned in the bottom left, Bogus in top left on Sniper Ridge) thanks ! | ||
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538
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Bogus' scout is denied, but he sees the CC timing, Flash walks a scout in Bogus's base, to be killed by the first vulture. | ||
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Sawamura
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Scarecrow
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On May 30 2012 19:45 endy wrote: Lol Flash forgot the map was updated or what ? he was hoping to surprise them from the high ground i assume, didnt work out so well | ||
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Sinedd
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nice !!! go go go !!! | ||
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538
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Bogus is setting up a siege position on the high ground at 9 - Flash's old third, and even has range on the edge of Flash's min line at the nat. Not looking good for Flash, they are on equal bases, but Bogus has him semi-contained, while still harassing. | ||
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Sinedd
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:D | ||
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538
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Bogus scouting the map for hidden expos, finding nothing. Flash loses a drophsip to a turret. | ||
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Flash should really just drop SC2 practice until this OSL is over. | ||
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endy
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Go Flash ! | ||
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538
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Flash will have to tap out looks like, they both bring scvs GG from Flash! impressive play by Bogus, out-multitasked God, and looks very smug leaving the booth. | ||
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Sinedd
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NIIIIIIIICCCEEE !!! :D WOO ! | ||
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Kittan
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GEE GEEE, Flash concedes after Bogus extended his lead from early game. | ||
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Sawamura
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Poll: Recommend game 1 ? Yes (35) No (7) If you have time ... (3) 45 total votes Your vote: Recommend game 1 ? | ||
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c3rberUs
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Flash GG's | ||
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I'm so sad now....fuck KESPA forcing them to play 2 games. | ||
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FuRong
New Zealand3089 Posts
I think Fanta takes the title at the same time he takes the ELO spot. FML, I'm gonna be pissed off the for the rest of the night now. | ||
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Masheyoon
United States781 Posts
On May 30 2012 19:57 Kanil wrote: So cute to see all the Flash fans blaming it on SC2. Ever since Flash reached his 70% average win streak in late 2010-ish, I had never seen him play that poorly and sloppy. Not to take any credit away from Bogus, he played really well, but Flash could have done better (especially considering he had gotten important scout information at the start of the game). | ||
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WTFTerran
Russian Federation286 Posts
the best | ||
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Sinedd
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he just outplayed Flash and thats it ! GZ ! | ||
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The fans who like BW won't stay. The fans who like the stars will start to fall away when the stars stop winning. The most extreme, loyal fans to each star will remain, but everyone else will lose interest as well. | ||
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On May 30 2012 19:59 Scarecrow wrote: Too many stupid sc2 comments, flash has dropped tvt's to random terran's before. Give bogus some credit Lol c'mon when was the last time you have seen Flash playing this bad ? When he got elminated from last groups ssak played great baiting wraiths and crushing them with valks. I have never seen Flash playing this bad.... in a TvT. | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On May 30 2012 20:01 Sinedd wrote: you guys are talking bullshit, like Bogus wasnt practicing SC2 too... -,- he just outplayed Flash and thats it ! GZ ! That OSL has much less signification that's all. Bogus played well though. | ||
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Kanil
United States1713 Posts
On May 30 2012 19:59 Masheyoon wrote: Ever since Flash reached his 70% average win streak in late 2010-ish, I had never seen him play that poorly and sloppy. Then you'll remember him getting eliminated from the MSL to Ssak and Classic? Back when there was still an MSL and he definitely wasn't playing SC2? Sometimes shit happens, man. | ||
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Kittan
Poland3999 Posts
On May 30 2012 19:59 Scarecrow wrote: Too many stupid sc2 comments, flash has dropped tvt's to random terran's before. Give bogus some credit Indeed, while Flash's control was questionable, we should give credit where it's due - Bogus played very well, with only a couple small mistakes (like late upgrades despite early armory). | ||
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538
Hungary3932 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [Flash vs Bogus] + Sure. Flash places a proxy, but not early rax in the middle, Bogus opens rax first as well, so he will be fine. (Flash spawned in the bottom left, Bogus in top left on Sniper Ridge) Marines meet as planned, Flash is already floating the rax towards Bogus' base, and starts a CC and a factory. Bogus is setting up for a fast CC himself, and starts it when Flash's is at 500 hp. Bogus' scout is denied, but he sees the CC timing, Flash walks a scout in Bogus's base, to be killed by the first vulture. Bogus tries to use the new small ramp on this version of the map, pushing with 3 vults and marines, but Flash expects it, and defends. Bogus reinforces though, so Flash has to pull SCVs. Flash is losing SCVs due to the constant vultures streaming in, tries repair microing his vultures, but he's outnumbered. Vultures make it into Flash's base, and the popping goliaths are slow at killing them. Finally they do clear them up, but Flash must be behind after losing 6+ SCVs during the vulture pressure. Bogus is switching to goliath production, going up to 3 facts. Bogus loses his floating rax to goliaths, but starts 2 more factories just before it burns down. Bogus has a dropship ready, Flash is taking a fast third. Vulture drop incoming. Flash pulls scvs with starsense to save them from the vulture drop, vultures mine up the base, but only damage one tank, and they are cleared up. Bogus tries droppign the nat with golis, but they are repelled. 2 dropship harass, one at nat, one at main, they join forces in the main, golis and vults! Flash defends well, but is busy multitasking while Bogus starts moving his army down the map, threatening the third! Bogus' tanks siege the third, which is floating now. Flash's wraith denies the harass, tries to stop the siege on the third, but repairing scv and arriving wraith send it away. Bogus is setting up a siege position on the high ground at 9 - Flash's old third, and even has range on the edge of Flash's min line at the nat. Not looking good for Flash, they are on equal bases, but Bogus has him semi-contained, while still harassing. The game slows down now, Flash is floating his third CC to the other third at 6, but doesnt land yet. Wraiths deny Bogus' try at harassing again, flash is taking his third, while Bogus is trying to set up a contain to deny that. CC lands, but no SCVs. Bogus has taken Flash's original third, and made a valk to defend from wraits, even though Flash only has 2 Moderate engagement outside of Flash's third, both sides lose a lot, but Bogus is happier trading armies at this point. Flash only takes gas from his third, Bogus is starting his fourth base at 12. Not looking good for Flash. Bogus scouting the map for hidden expos, finding nothing. Flash loses a drophsip to a turret. Vultures deny Flash any mining at his third, Bogus now has him completely contained to two bases, while setting up his fourth. Flash is trying to move out with two dropships, but Bogus is pushing the front with overwhelming numbers! Flash will have to tap out looks like, they both bring scvs GG from Flash! impressive play by Bogus, out-multitasked God, and looks very smug leaving the booth. | ||
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oldgregg
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On May 30 2012 19:57 Scarecrow wrote: Bogus played it really well after getting the early lead with the vultures. Kinda similar to the fantasy loss, just never let flash breathe for the rest of the game that's how you beat flash! dont give him ANY room to move | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On May 30 2012 20:01 Sinedd wrote: you guys are talking bullshit, like Bogus wasnt practicing SC2 too... -,- he just outplayed Flash and thats it ! GZ ! Star players are kinda important to the moral of a sport over-all though, same reason why when jaedong or stork loses its depressing as hell. | ||
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Motivate
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time for fantasy!!!! | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On May 30 2012 20:02 538 wrote: My merged LR posts about game one, maybe someone will find it handy: + Show Spoiler [Flash vs Bogus] + Sure. Flash places a proxy, but not early rax in the middle, Bogus opens rax first as well, so he will be fine. (Flash spawned in the bottom left, Bogus in top left on Sniper Ridge) Marines meet as planned, Flash is already floating the rax towards Bogus' base, and starts a CC and a factory. Bogus is setting up for a fast CC himself, and starts it when Flash's is at 500 hp. Bogus' scout is denied, but he sees the CC timing, Flash walks a scout in Bogus's base, to be killed by the first vulture. Bogus tries to use the new small ramp on this version of the map, pushing with 3 vults and marines, but Flash expects it, and defends. Bogus reinforces though, so Flash has to pull SCVs. Flash is losing SCVs due to the constant vultures streaming in, tries repair microing his vultures, but he's outnumbered. Vultures make it into Flash's base, and the popping goliaths are slow at killing them. Finally they do clear them up, but Flash must be behind after losing 6+ SCVs during the vulture pressure. Bogus is switching to goliath production, going up to 3 facts. Bogus loses his floating rax to goliaths, but starts 2 more factories just before it burns down. Bogus has a dropship ready, Flash is taking a fast third. Vulture drop incoming. Flash pulls scvs with starsense to save them from the vulture drop, vultures mine up the base, but only damage one tank, and they are cleared up. Bogus tries droppign the nat with golis, but they are repelled. 2 dropship harass, one at nat, one at main, they join forces in the main, golis and vults! Flash defends well, but is busy multitasking while Bogus starts moving his army down the map, threatening the third! Bogus' tanks siege the third, which is floating now. Flash's wraith denies the harass, tries to stop the siege on the third, but repairing scv and arriving wraith send it away. Bogus is setting up a siege position on the high ground at 9 - Flash's old third, and even has range on the edge of Flash's min line at the nat. Not looking good for Flash, they are on equal bases, but Bogus has him semi-contained, while still harassing. The game slows down now, Flash is floating his third CC to the other third at 6, but doesnt land yet. Wraiths deny Bogus' try at harassing again, flash is taking his third, while Bogus is trying to set up a contain to deny that. CC lands, but no SCVs. Bogus has taken Flash's original third, and made a valk to defend from wraits, even though Flash only has 2 Moderate engagement outside of Flash's third, both sides lose a lot, but Bogus is happier trading armies at this point. Flash only takes gas from his third, Bogus is starting his fourth base at 12. Not looking good for Flash. Bogus scouting the map for hidden expos, finding nothing. Flash loses a drophsip to a turret. Vultures deny Flash any mining at his third, Bogus now has him completely contained to two bases, while setting up his fourth. Flash is trying to move out with two dropships, but Bogus is pushing the front with overwhelming numbers! Flash will have to tap out looks like, they both bring scvs GG from Flash! impressive play by Bogus, out-multitasked God, and looks very smug leaving the booth. This is awesome ! | ||
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Darksoldierr
Hungary2012 Posts
On May 30 2012 20:02 Caihead wrote: Star players are kinda important to the moral of a sport over-all though, same reason why when jaedong or stork loses its depressing as hell. No king rule forever | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On May 30 2012 20:01 Zona wrote: Kespa better wake up. If star players don't perform in BW or SC2, nobody's going to stay to watch whatever abomination this has become. The fans who like BW won't stay. The fans who like the stars will start to fall away when the stars stop winning. The most extreme, loyal fans to each star will remain, but everyone else will lose interest as well. -.- what's with the kneejerk reactions? That game was hardly an abomination. He had a BO loss to Jangbi then drops a TvT and suddenly it's the end of the world. If he loses the tiebreak then maybe you've got a leg to stand on. | ||
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chongu
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IMO,, games are too-one sided and not as intense as it used to be. | ||
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Darksoldierr
Hungary2012 Posts
On May 30 2012 20:03 altered wrote: we could have a osl ro8 without TBLS, when was the last time that happened? Well, Bisu always drops out in group play : D | ||
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Zona
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3 more possible sets coming up! (I think there will be at least one more as Fantasy dominates.) | ||
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Vipsanius
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And Flash should've just gone for a 14cc, not some goofy forward rax to punish a 14cc that wasn't there. | ||
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Edit: Yay BW is back! I havent watched starcraft in ages. This new season is awesome | ||
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Zona
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On May 30 2012 20:04 Scarecrow wrote: -.- what's with the kneejerk reactions? That game was hardly an abomination. He had a BO loss to Jangbi then drops a TvT and suddenly it's the end of the world. If he loses the tiebreak then maybe you've got a leg to stand on. Meh, I was talking about the Kespa scene in general. And it ain't no kneejerk reaction...I've been giving this as much of a chance as I can. | ||
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Yggdrasil Leaf
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He probably thinks that one can become a god as well in Sctoo, so he must be playing it like mad... | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:05 BLinD-RawR wrote: why does the OP say Flash won? Sawamura with the denial xD | ||
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bogus played very, very well. he remained calm and proceeded to optimize his early advantage gained from the marine/vulture poke by knowing exactly how he needed to respond once flash greedily took the fast 9 o clock expo despite the fact he was at a slight disadvantage from the early marine/vulture battle. | ||
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Sinedd
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we will have more games this way you guys whine definitely too fucking much.. chillax.. go go go next match ! | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:05 BLinD-RawR wrote: why does the OP say Flash won? I automatically thought who ever won that game must be flash . It's hard to accept this | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:07 bokchoi wrote: Oh shit rematches for Group A 12-hour tiebreakers let's go!! | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:06 hmmm... wrote: whenever flash loses, people are so quick to conclude flash didn't play well. bogus played very, very well. he remained calm and proceeded to optimize his early advantage gained from the marine/vulture poke by knowing exactly how he needed to respond once flash greedily took the fast 9 o clock expo despite the fact he was at a slight disadvantage from the early marine/vulture battle. No one is taking anything away from Bogus, but Flash DID play terrible concidering we are talking about FLASH here... | ||
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Sinedd
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On May 30 2012 20:06 structuralinertia wrote: time for some grape-age children might be watching please no gRAPE today go go Fantasy ! make it another tiebreak !!! :D | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:07 538 wrote: Flash lost 14+ SCVs to the initial vulture pressure. No recovery from that. wat ? not that many.. lol | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:08 Sawamura wrote: So how does tie breaker works ? how many points does one have to get to win the tie breaker . 2 consecutive wins | ||
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Norway25712 Posts
On May 30 2012 20:02 538 wrote: Had a dentist appointment, missed this game, I love you :>My merged LR posts about game one, maybe someone will find it handy: + Show Spoiler [Flash vs Bogus] + Sure. Flash places a proxy, but not early rax in the middle, Bogus opens rax first as well, so he will be fine. (Flash spawned in the bottom left, Bogus in top left on Sniper Ridge) Marines meet as planned, Flash is already floating the rax towards Bogus' base, and starts a CC and a factory. Bogus is setting up for a fast CC himself, and starts it when Flash's is at 500 hp. Bogus' scout is denied, but he sees the CC timing, Flash walks a scout in Bogus's base, to be killed by the first vulture. Bogus tries to use the new small ramp on this version of the map, pushing with 3 vults and marines, but Flash expects it, and defends. Bogus reinforces though, so Flash has to pull SCVs. Flash is losing SCVs due to the constant vultures streaming in, tries repair microing his vultures, but he's outnumbered. Vultures make it into Flash's base, and the popping goliaths are slow at killing them. Finally they do clear them up, but Flash must be behind after losing 6+ SCVs during the vulture pressure. Bogus is switching to goliath production, going up to 3 facts. Bogus loses his floating rax to goliaths, but starts 2 more factories just before it burns down. Bogus has a dropship ready, Flash is taking a fast third. Vulture drop incoming. Flash pulls scvs with starsense to save them from the vulture drop, vultures mine up the base, but only damage one tank, and they are cleared up. Bogus tries droppign the nat with golis, but they are repelled. 2 dropship harass, one at nat, one at main, they join forces in the main, golis and vults! Flash defends well, but is busy multitasking while Bogus starts moving his army down the map, threatening the third! Bogus' tanks siege the third, which is floating now. Flash's wraith denies the harass, tries to stop the siege on the third, but repairing scv and arriving wraith send it away. Bogus is setting up a siege position on the high ground at 9 - Flash's old third, and even has range on the edge of Flash's min line at the nat. Not looking good for Flash, they are on equal bases, but Bogus has him semi-contained, while still harassing. The game slows down now, Flash is floating his third CC to the other third at 6, but doesnt land yet. Wraiths deny Bogus' try at harassing again, flash is taking his third, while Bogus is trying to set up a contain to deny that. CC lands, but no SCVs. Bogus has taken Flash's original third, and made a valk to defend from wraits, even though Flash only has 2 Moderate engagement outside of Flash's third, both sides lose a lot, but Bogus is happier trading armies at this point. Flash only takes gas from his third, Bogus is starting his fourth base at 12. Not looking good for Flash. Bogus scouting the map for hidden expos, finding nothing. Flash loses a drophsip to a turret. Vultures deny Flash any mining at his third, Bogus now has him completely contained to two bases, while setting up his fourth. Flash is trying to move out with two dropships, but Bogus is pushing the front with overwhelming numbers! Flash will have to tap out looks like, they both bring scvs GG from Flash! impressive play by Bogus, out-multitasked God, and looks very smug leaving the booth. | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:08 Sawamura wrote: So how does tie breaker works ? how many points does one have to get to win the tie breaker . You have to win 2 games (win against both opponents) If everyone wins just 1 game in the 3-game round robin, they repeat. | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:08 Sawamura wrote: So how does tie breaker works ? how many points does one have to get to win the tie breaker . You go round robin until someone wins 2-0 for a round. Technically it can go forever. And one time it went for 7+ hours. Let's just say fuck Effort's Mouse. | ||
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seriously ? no way man.. I counted like 8 max which is alot too actually | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:01 Zona wrote: Kespa better wake up. If star players don't perform in BW or SC2, nobody's going to stay to watch whatever abomination this has become. The fans who like BW won't stay. The fans who like the stars will start to fall away when the stars stop winning. The most extreme, loyal fans to each star will remain, but everyone else will lose interest as well. i know this sounds extremely silly but i can assure you there will be players to replace TBLS. honestly, who would have thought there would be players to replace boxer, yellow, reach, nada, nal_ra, savior etc? | ||
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but is also no wins 2 losses vs Fantasy, or 0%? How do they select their stats? | ||
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If you win you will be above 90% winrate since sk planet season 1! | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:10 Zona wrote: Wat...did OGN just say that Grape has 1 win no losses vs terran, 100% but is also no wins 2 losses vs Fantasy, or 0%? How do they select their stats? They throw darts and use Proleague stats as well, because mixing games makes sense and all that. | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:10 Asha` wrote: Time for Fantasy to squash Grape so hard he makes wine <$ GO GO GO ! :D | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:09 GTR wrote: i know this sounds extremely silly but i can assure you there will be players to replace TBLS. honestly, who would have thought there would be players to replace boxer, yellow, reach, nada, nal_ra, savior etc? Oh, I agree there will be stars to replace them. But the problem now is that the only thing going for Kespa in this BW->SC2 transition are the stars. If the stars don't perform there will be a shrinkage in the fanbase. | ||
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France6884 Posts
On May 30 2012 20:09 GTR wrote: i know this sounds extremely silly but i can assure you there will be players to replace TBLS. honestly, who would have thought there would be players to replace boxer, yellow, reach, nada, nal_ra, savior etc? The problem is that the only way to legitimize the transition is to keep some well known player. Don't see it working either anyway, I don't give starcraft on OGN much more time. | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:04 J1.au wrote: I'm trying hard to care but the truth is I don't view this OSL as being that legitimate. Flash lost, no big deal. This is nothing like when he lost to Ssak and Classic, which was pretty hard to take. Also he's not out entirely yet. I pretty much feel the same. =( There are much more knowledgeable people than me when it comes to game analysis, but this game... I mean Bogus did his job, sure, but I feel like I haven't seen such a bad game from Flash in the last 3-4 years.. | ||
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Sawamura
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this season. | ||
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But one thing to keep in mind is that Kespa gave up one of their few revenue sources (league licensing fees) when agreeing to transition to SC2 (and submitting to Blizzard). I'm just wondering how much of their plan is grounded upon false hope. | ||
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Scarecrow
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On May 30 2012 20:09 Sinedd wrote: seriously ? no way man.. I counted like 8 max which is alot too actually In mirror builds (also flash proxied) it's not easy to come back from and the double dropship harrass just compounded things and killed more workers. The damage plus his fast third made flash look more stretched/weaker than usual imo. The only thing i really fault is the initial vulture defence | ||
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PineappleLumpsToss
New Zealand2434 Posts
Sounds like I missed some drama with the previous game, but at least I made it in time to watch Fanta. | ||
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Zona
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Fantasy the mastermind (terran) at 10.5 Grape the poor victim (protoss) at 7.5 | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:13 Zona wrote: Well TBH I do expect to be pleased with the outcome of this OSL...since Fantasy is my favorite player and he doesn't seem to have deteriorated in BW like many other players have. But one thing to keep in mind is that Kespa gave up one of their few revenue sources (league licensing fees) when agreeing to transition to SC2 (and submitting to Blizzard). I'm just wondering how much of their plan is grounded upon false hope. League licensing fees ? | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:11 Zona wrote: Oh, I agree there will be stars to replace them. But the problem now is that the only thing going for Kespa in this BW->SC2 transition are the stars. If the stars don't perform there will be a shrinkage in the fanbase. teeheehee | ||
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Grape not risking it, opens gateway | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On May 30 2012 20:12 538 wrote: Replay shows Bogus took the third at 9 mere seconds after making Flash's CC lift, shows he had an actual gameplan for it, expanding aggressively along his push. it's arguable that flash should have taken the third at 6 instead? That, coupled with the huge number of SCVs lost to vultures sealed Flash's fate earlier than I thought. 9 was way easier to hold with a tank line than 6, he almost did, needed a rax block or a few extra units | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:15 Zona wrote: LOL, fangirl just staring at her phone, not the game. Grape not risking it, opens gateway Yay! Back to old days, Zona LR best LR. | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:15 HaXxorIzed wrote: Hopefully this isn't a Fantasy stomp, although he's looked so strong lately. 10-game win streak for Fantasy. | ||
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hyde was also a good LR I miss hyde ... | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:13 Zona wrote: Well TBH I do expect to be pleased with the outcome of this OSL...since Fantasy is my favorite player and he doesn't seem to have deteriorated in BW like many other players have. But one thing to keep in mind is that Kespa gave up one of their few revenue sources (league licensing fees) when agreeing to transition to SC2 (and submitting to Blizzard). I'm just wondering how much of their plan is grounded upon false hope. Its true that the whole deal is "mediocre" at best, and bad for fans of both games. But on the other hand its incredibly hard situation, you cant persue BW favorable decision nor SC2 favorable decision when you have split in viewiership (SC2/BW) and LoL knockin on doors. | ||
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Fantasy scouting - correctly 2 scvs on gas this ain't no expo play! 2 fact coming? | ||
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Grape teal @ 7, Fantasy red @ 11 on Neo Ground ZeroFanta going fast 3 scvs on gas, takes one off after starting first fact, Grape opening Core before zealot, fast dragoon range. Fantasy scouts in the right direction, Grape... doesn't scout at all? First goon kills the scouting SCV. | ||
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this is going to be ugly! | ||
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jpak
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1 gate expand for Grape | ||
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4 marines stripping a curious goon's shields robo already for Grape, 1 gate still | ||
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Starport finished. | ||
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vulture drop? 5 marine 1 tank chasing away 3 goons - vulture follows up...with mines grape doing a pretty good job hitting marines but a vulture gets into the main - sees grape place 2 more gateways and gets some probe kills 2 marine 1 tank 1 vulture in grape's nat - forces probes away... mines dropped | ||
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Grape's nat is in trouble. | ||
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Korea (South)9498 Posts
On May 30 2012 20:06 structuralinertia wrote: time for some grape-age think grapes the one taking it this time | ||
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Zona
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dropship flying over...fantasy taking cover behind mines to attack the nat nex probe scouts all of fantasy's main but 3 vultures dropped into grape's main... mines laid | ||
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PineappleLumpsToss
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On May 30 2012 20:13 Zona wrote: Well TBH I do expect to be pleased with the outcome of this OSL...since Fantasy is my favorite player and he doesn't seem to have deteriorated in BW like many other players have. But one thing to keep in mind is that Kespa gave up one of their few revenue sources (league licensing fees) when agreeing to transition to SC2 (and submitting to Blizzard). I'm just wondering how much of their plan is grounded upon false hope. Bisu and Fanta for me Zona, so yeah, I wouldn't hate that result I've been thinking recently about what I'd do if I was in the position of these BW progamers. While they're probably not given the choice, I think I'd opt to focus on BW in the hope of winning the last BW OSL, and just accepting that I'd be off the pace initially in SC2. With everybody trying to catch up in SC2, this current OSL is definitely there for the taking, and that combined with the honour of being the last winner means it's a no-brainer for me. Probably moot though, as the players will do whatever they're told by their coaches at the end of the day. | ||
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goon dying in the main, probes getting graped, nat nex destroyed as fantasy takes his own nat... | ||
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lol.. | ||
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2 vultures still zooming around the main and the dropship heading out again, about to pick up 2 more vultures 2 more factories for fantasy (3) finally an observer is out, and a few goons can clear the remaining mines in the main | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:21 Kipsate wrote: Unimpressed Fantasy Impressed Flash | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:19 PineappleLumpsToss wrote: Bisu and Fanta for me Zona, so yeah, I wouldn't hate that result I've been thinking recently about what I'd do if I was in the position of these BW progamers. While they're probably not given the choice, I think I'd opt to focus on BW in the hope of winning the last BW OSL, and just accepting that I'd be off the pace initially in SC2. With everybody trying to catch up in SC2, this current OSL is definitely there for the taking, and that combined with the honour of being the last winner means it's a no-brainer for me. Probably moot though, as the players will do whatever they're told by their coaches at the end of the day. Well, I'd guess it depends how much they value their current salary...vs future prospects and getting their military duty over with 2 vultures in the main again, mines dropped, probe rape... | ||
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why fucking bother. | ||
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Bill Murray
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On May 30 2012 20:21 jpak wrote: A gundam-rush for Fantasy. that wasnt a gundam gundam is 2 fact that was like a FD that wasnt even with a CC, it was with a starport | ||
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dropship heading out again all fantasy needs is vultures... | ||
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United States5045 Posts
On May 30 2012 20:22 Bill Murray wrote: that wasnt a gundam gundam is 2 fact that was like a FD that wasnt even with a CC, it was with a starport well I heard gundam from commentators or something like that. I think they were referring to how PvT has evolved over the years or something like that. | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:22 oldgregg wrote: this fantasy guy is quite good mmm creamy | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:22 Zona wrote: Grape re-taking his nat why fucking bother. I actually lol'd | ||
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his vultures check for hidden expos - there aren't any academy done grape adding support bay observer sees fantasy taking his 3rd | ||
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fantasy adding armory | ||
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this will be game over... | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:23 HopLight wrote: Sigh, Fantasy demonstrating that he is clearly the best BW player right now. beating up grape doesn't mean much | ||
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wassbix
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This is bit more than just a beating | ||
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bgx
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Pwning Flash in TvT(before SC2) and 10 win streak does. | ||
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very ugly in faact... | ||
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has his own shuttle waiting fantasy's 3rd starts to come online, 5 factories now turrets done at his nat 2 vultures rush into grape's main again sees the raeaver mine dropped right next to it - only 55 hp left | ||
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a few shots and they leave observer dies to see the turrets at fantasy's nat shuttle heading to the 3rd? shuttle flies over mines....2 shuttles | ||
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Dodgin
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how about 90% winrate in the past 20 games | ||
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he means business edit: ok nvm, loses 2 reavers... | ||
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both shuttles flying together in formation now dropship following shuttles head to fantasy's 3rd 2 reaver 2 goon drop vultures firhting lots of damage to fantasy's eco but still, he has 3 bases and grape has 2 | ||
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fantasy loses but now a line o ftanks rolling out grape moving forces to raze fantasy's 3rd but what about his own base? | ||
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shuttle dropping goons by tanks...not very effective | ||
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spinning around making love like eagles in flight | ||
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grape's nat razed again fantasy unsieges as shuttle comes in... sieges up a few tanks slowlots and drops don't do anything and grape concedes | ||
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2/2 for tiebreakers so far, make it 3/3 hyvaa! | ||
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Iplaythings
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HOLY SHIT IM AN INFESTED TERRAN | ||
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Man, he'll never get a chance to win more and more individual leagues to show definitively that he's finally rising to the top. | ||
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Fanta so good <3 | ||
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oldgregg
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wanna come to a club where people wee on each other? | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:29 okum wrote: Fantasy fans, I'm jealous. It was a Longggg painful road Lmao "I came to have a relaxed game but it was too ez" - Fantasy | ||
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Poll: Recommend game 2 ? Yes (16) No (5) If you have time ... (1) 22 total votes Your vote: Recommend game 2 ? | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:29 okum wrote: Fantasy fans, I'm jealous. ... It's possible to be a fan of a player even if that player isn't #1. | ||
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catabowl
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On May 30 2012 20:05 Zona wrote: Meh, I was talking about the Kespa scene in general. And it ain't no kneejerk reaction...I've been giving this as much of a chance as I can. No. This is totally kneejerk. What you are suggesting is that KESPA needs to do something to make sure the "Stars" get better treatment. Already went through one match fixing scandal... we do not need a "Star fixing" scandal. | ||
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Well, we have 4 3-0 advancers...at least these 4 players are paying attention to BW... or something Shine finally rising up with his ZvZ | ||
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GOGO FANTASY | ||
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PineappleLumpsToss
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For him more than us. Imagine how he's felt at times - just makes me respect him so much more. | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:30 Iplaythings wrote: fantasy seems more scary than flash in BW nowadays HOLY SHIT IM AN INFESTED TERRAN Grats on the 6k! | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:32 Fenrax wrote: What did Fanta say that caused such a heavy reaction from audience and commentators? I promise to win this OSL undefeated. Or at least shoot for it. | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:33 wassbix wrote: FANTASY MY KING IVE WAITED SO LONG ; _ ; Indeed, being a Fantasy fan is a massive rollercoaster that wreaks your life, but it's so worth it now xD GOGO FANTA! | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:34 Kittan wrote: Indeed, being a Fantasy fan is a massive rollercoaster that wreaks your life, but it's so worth it now xD GOGO FANTA! Since when has it been a massive rollercoaster? It's been an uphill of better and better achievements since 2007 for fantasy. Flash went through rookie -> win SL -> nothing for a year -> dominance -> disqualify out of 2 leagues -> dominance -> wrist injury -> dominance -> lose PL entirely on him going 0-2 -> now. This is a compliment to fantasy for being steady and hardworking btw, but its not a rollercoaster >_> Jangbi would be a rollercoaster. | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:32 catabowl wrote: No. This is totally kneejerk. What you are suggesting is that KESPA needs to do something to make sure the "Stars" get better treatment. Already went through one match fixing scandal... we do not need a "Star fixing" scandal. My comment has nothing to do with suggesting that stars getting better treatment. I'm insulted that you drew that implication from my post. I'm just commenting that it would be better for them to see sooner rather than later where their attempt to force such a transition on their fans is taking them. A spectator competition depends on having fans. Kespa has many times treated its core fans poorly - suddenly holding finals in another fucking country, begging for fans to show up in the aftermath of the match-fixing scandal and then not being able to accommodate them, etc. And now - consider why fans still watch? Perhaps they enjoy BW? Well those fans aren't coming along. Perhaps they're more fans of the players rather than fans of BW? Well, even fans lose heart when their favorite stars stop winning (because the stars are now forced to play a game unfamiliar to them...) | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:34 J1.au wrote: I don't care how many rookies he slaughters, Flash still beats him in a Bo5. That was so long ago looking at how flash couldn't even defend a vulture harassed like that makes me think this statement isn't true any more . On form Fantasy looks much stronger than | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:34 J1.au wrote: I don't care how many rookies he slaughters, Flash still beats him in a Bo5. Not today's Flash though. Today's Flash might not make it as far as getting a BO5 against Fantasy. | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:34 J1.au wrote: I don't care how many rookies he slaughters, Flash still beats him in a Bo5. Bo5 FvF one sided? More like on a on razor's edge. | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:35 altered wrote: well fantasy maybe looks so good right now because he had to play noobs. Lets see if he still wins ezpz when he has a real opponent. He rolled over Zero just yesterday >: ( | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:36 Sawamura wrote: That was so long ago looking at how flash couldn't even defend a vulture harassed like that makes me think this statement isn't true any more . On form Fantasy looks much stronger than You are not a true fan! | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:36 GeLaar wrote: Not today's Flash though. Today's Flash might not make it as far as getting a BO5 against Fantasy. I hope Flash practices some BW, seriously. It'd be terrible if he dropped out at the tiebreakers. And even Fantasy would arguably benefit if Flash advanced to face him in a series, so he'd get the opportunity to defeat him and finally stand alone on top. | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:36 bokchoi wrote: Rematches in group B... 3-way ties for second in all 4 groups ? : D It's possible. But I bet (hope?) Soo advances cleanly from Group D. | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:39 Sawamura wrote: We need a hero T_T some one please stop fantasy . nop | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:39 Sawamura wrote: We need a hero T_T some one please stop fantasy . + Show Spoiler + | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:36 Caihead wrote: Since when has it been a massive rollercoaster? It's been an uphill of better and better achievements since 2007 for fantasy. Flash went through rookie -> win SL -> nothing for a year -> dominance -> disqualify out of 2 leagues -> dominance -> wrist injury -> dominance -> lose PL entirely on him going 0-2 -> now. This is a compliment to fantasy for being steady and hardworking btw, but its not a rollercoaster >_> Jangbi would be a rollercoaster. All the games in SPL he had won but refused to expand. All the wacky builds that didn't work when he would've won had he played standard. Self ownage that tears your soul... but the next game he does everything perfect. And repeat the cycle. This was long ago (2 years), but this recent stabilisation of his form is not the 'normal' way of things. Usually he'd just reach this plateau for a short while with dropping games in between. No more. | ||
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either that or Jangbi vs Fantasy I guess but we had that already. | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:40 Bill Murray wrote: you've put on a nice spread, gregg i did home economics | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:36 Caihead wrote: Since when has it been a massive rollercoaster? It's been an uphill of better and better achievements since 2007 for fantasy. Flash went through rookie -> win SL -> nothing for a year -> dominance -> disqualify out of 2 leagues -> dominance -> wrist injury -> dominance -> lose PL entirely on him going 0-2 -> now. This is a compliment to fantasy for being steady and hardworking btw, but its not a rollercoaster >_> Jangbi would be a rollercoaster. When Fantasy fails he tends to spectacularly fail and then he tries to hang onto the game for dear life and as a fan its really soulcrushing 09 OSL RO4 vs JD was the saddest and most rage inducing BW set ever for example | ||
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really? | ||
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Stork will defeat evil Fantasy I am sure of it . | ||
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What made and still makes Flash and Fantasy good players is their work ethic, both of them will be fine if they keep their work ethic and devotion to the profession. If anything historically fantasy's had way better mentorship and coaching in TvT, just look at their last BO5, fantasy got better OP builds 4/5 times and flash won through sheer tenacity. | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:41 oldgregg wrote: i made a crumble, the teacher said mine was the best one well, i'm very pleased for you | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:40 Kipsate wrote: Hope Flash advances so he can get destroyed by Fantasy and that Fantasy can claim his rightfull position once and for all either that or Jangbi vs Fantasy I guess but we had that already. Grats on the 10k, kipskate! | ||
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You're picking up on that...? | ||
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ow well fk that worth it STILL NO SCIENCE VESSEL I H8 THIS | ||
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Kespa charged OGN (and MBC, back then) to broadcast PL. The way other leagues (nba, nfl, nhl, etc) charge broadcasters (espn, etc) to broadcast games. Blizzard thought that nobody should be able charge fees and sued...surely you remember that incident? Kespa won that round and Blizzard backed off, but with the deal with Blizzard for SC2, it was a hollow victory. Since there are no gate receipts, hardly any merchandising, and so on, it was one of the few revenue sources that Kespa had. And right now there's no outside sponsor either - tving is a CJ/OGN company, while SK sports is an in-kespa sponsor of PL. | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:42 Kipsate wrote: sweet mother of god I used my 10k on that ow well fk that worth it STILL NO SCIENCE VESSEL I H8 THIS Valkyrie > science vessel ? No ? | ||
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I like Stork but with the way he is playing right now there can only be one outcome to that series + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PfD6t.jpg) | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:40 wassbix wrote: When Fantasy fails he tends to spectacularly fail and then he tries to hang onto the game for dear life and as a fan its really soulcrushing 09 OSL RO4 vs JD was the saddest and most rage inducing BW set ever for exampleAll of his failures were trial and error periods for his own innovative builds imo, alot of them didn't work out for sure but i've only ever felt that he was in trouble once in his career and that was at the end of 2010-2011 proleague. Just a bump in the road. | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:44 TheKefka wrote: I like Stork but with the way he is playing right now there can only be one outcome to that series + Show Spoiler + But thats not a stork :/ edit: or is it? I can't tell its been messed up real good | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:44 Bill Murray wrote: you're all rigid; you're like a breadstick. you ain't got no rhythm lol. yes gregg you're very funky | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:42 Kipsate wrote: sweet mother of god I used my 10k on that ow well fk that worth it STILL NO SCIENCE VESSEL I H8 THIS 2 months. | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:45 Bill Murray wrote: and now for something completely different this is mrs t.j.smegma *looks confused* | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:44 wassbix wrote: But thats not a stork :/ edit: or is it? I can't tell its been messed up real good idk I googled dead stork and this is what came up lol | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:45 Sawamura wrote: Gregg and murray could use a room though .. now you're getting yea? why dont you nick off and get some twiglets | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:46 Kittan wrote: Gogo hyvaa! Though I hate you, be my hero for tonight and grant me more tiebreakers! This! More BW, MORE! | ||
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hyvaa in orange at 4.5 Soulkey in purple at 7.5 | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:47 oldgregg wrote: now you're getting yea? why dont you nick off and get some twiglets YOU ARE POSITIVELY BRITISH now back to LR | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:46 Kittan wrote: Gogo hyvaa! Though I hate you, be my hero for tonight and grant me more tiebreakers! moar BW gogo! | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:47 Sawamura wrote: So many skt1 fans tonight :3 :D go go go ! | ||
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Twiglets looks weird .... ![[image loading]](http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51wUqi0MvIL._SL500_AA300_PIbundle-16,TopRight,0,0_AA300_SH20_.jpg) | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:48 Bill Murray wrote: come on emo zerg go 12 hatch i need more tiebreaks lmao, you make it sound like you are going to strangle somebody with a tie | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:48 IshinShishi wrote: WTF Flash lost?Is he out?Anand vs Gelfand taking too much time..... he is not there would be more matches to determine who is going to advance agreed with the WCC match though.. | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:48 IshinShishi wrote: WTF Flash lost?Is he out?Anand vs Gelfand taking too much time..... flash isn't out, tie breakers between him action and bogus | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:48 IshinShishi wrote: WTF Flash lost?Is he out?Anand vs Gelfand taking too much time..... he gets to participate in tiebreakers (3 players 1-2 in the group) | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:44 Caihead wrote: All of his failures were trial and error periods for his own innovative builds imo, alot of them didn't work out for sure but i've only ever felt that he was in trouble once in his career and that was at the end of 2010-2011 proleague. Just a bump in the road. Exactly... when Flash "fails" it's okay because he's "god" but when Fantasy "fails" he's a scrub who needs to learn to gg sooner. Fantasy is better than Flash right now. Was that true 12 months ago? No. 6 months ago I would say they were even. After PL final, Fantasy now has the leg up on Flash. Fantasy could make his 3rd straight OSL final (just like Flash) and if he wins and goes 2-1 (just like Flash did) I would say Fantasy would be #1 right now. | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:47 Sawamura wrote: So many skt1 fans tonight :3 Represent! Faster lair for hyvaa, can he use his advantage? | ||
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Soulkey with only 1 drone on gas | ||
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if not his build order will struggle economically in terms of gas and larva | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:50 HaFnium wrote: violet - soulkey , orange - hyvaawho is who? | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:49 figq wrote: Wasn't the right guy one of the Iron Squid French casters? Think that was pomf but not sure | ||
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Lair already done and spire morphing for hyvaa Soulkey with zero drones on gas? hyvaa retreating as the larva disadvantage about to kick in adding a creep col in his main | ||
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and still has a decent number of drones evo morphing for SK mutas heading out! | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:50 catabowl wrote: Exactly... when Flash "fails" it's okay because he's "god" but when Fantasy "fails" he's a scrub who needs to learn to gg sooner. Fantasy is better than Flash right now. Was that true 12 months ago? No. 6 months ago I would say they were even. After PL final, Fantasy now has the leg up on Flash. Fantasy could make his 3rd straight OSL final (just like Flash) and if he wins and goes 2-1 (just like Flash did) I would say Fantasy would be #1 right now. fantasy is just streaky, all of his loses were streaky. I don't think anyone ever calls fantasy a scrub the first time he loses out of a winning streak. | ||
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his lings slipped by he has muta at home to defend | ||
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he's in good shape spawning pool taken down wat, that other creep morphed into a spore? hyvaa just needs to make lings lings pass each other as they cross the map... soulkey trying to kill drones with his lings hyvaa with 3 drones left now hyvaa's lings hitting sk's main... | ||
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Poll: Recommend game 3 ? Yes (19) If you have time ... (7) No (3) 29 total votes Your vote: Recommend game 3 ? | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:55 Holgerius wrote: Wait, we have tie-breakers in all three groups thus far? yep | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:55 IshinShishi wrote: When will the tiebreakers happen? June 5th | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:55 Monsen wrote: Will the tiebreakers be played today ? Next Tuesday. | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:55 Monsen wrote: Will the tiebreakers be played today ? Nope. | ||
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That's great! Moar BW! | ||
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Horang2 you must defeat soo for tie breaker.. You must full fill your destiny ! | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:55 Zona wrote: I wonder if we'll get a lot of 1-1-1 ties like 2 or so years ago? Hopefully, NTS will get to make another 4 tiebreaker vids, 12.5 games long each. | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:57 Caihead wrote: I really dont understand what soulkey's control on that zergling attack was, he had more than enough zerglings to win :< I was definitely surprised at how many of hyvaa's drones survived | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:56 Sawamura wrote: Okay now Horang2 you must defeat soo for tie breaker.. You must full fill your destiny !Horang2 has to win for Stork, I could care less about tie breakers, Stork needs to advance | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:57 rebdomine wrote: Mother of tiebreaks. Why do I have the feeling we're gonna need tiebreaks for all groups? >.< Same here, it feels like the stars are aligning just for this haha. | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:57 rebdomine wrote: Mother of tiebreaks. Why do I have the feeling we're gonna need tiebreaks for all groups? >.< I'm confident Soo can ZvP | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:57 Zona wrote: I was definitely surprised at how many of hyvaa's drones survived He just A moved his bottom group and like 10 lings were pathing behind the minerals when he could have easily killed the sunken for additional surface area =_= | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:58 Caihead wrote: He just A moved his bottom group and like 10 lings were pathing behind the minerals when he could have easily killed the sunken for additional surface area =_= The only conclusion I can come to is too much sctoo and not sc bw. | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:58 c3rberUs wrote: Same here, it feels like the stars are aligning just for this haha. If you think about it, it was destined to happen. Just like last OSL was destined to be Legend of the Fall, this time we will enjoy OSL to the fullest, which means massive tiebreakers in ALL groups. SoO will fight valiantly, like Fantasy did, but storyline is very hard to fight. | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:57 Caihead wrote: Horang2 has to win for Stork, I could care less about tie breakers, Stork needs to advance Horang2 has to win for himself first and have a chance to go through and giving Stork another chance in the process | ||
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On May 30 2012 20:59 Sawamura wrote: The only conclusion I can come to is too much sctoo and not sc bw. Playing too much SC2 doesn't make you forget that microing is better than A-moving. Also I called 5 out of 6 games right in Group C! Shame about some of the others... | ||
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On May 30 2012 21:02 Black[CAT] wrote: I just came home and found out the results. Is FLASH out of OSL? No there will be a tie breaker read second post in first page. | ||
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On May 30 2012 21:02 Black[CAT] wrote: I just came home and found out the results. Is FLASH out of OSL? tiebreakers with Bogus and Action. We got 3 sets of tiebreakers so far. Will there be a 4th? Stick around to find out. | ||
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On May 30 2012 21:02 TheKefka wrote: Well shit I like me some tiebreakers but can't throw ma boy soo under the bus TT We feel the same way, but think of it this way - he can lose now, so that he advances after 12 games later! Win/win. | ||
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On May 30 2012 21:02 TheKefka wrote: Well shit I like me some tiebreakers but can't throw ma boy soo under the bus TT I've got a truck here you can throw him under instead, if you like that better... | ||
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On May 30 2012 21:04 Zona wrote: Well the ZvZ tiebreakers have a chance to last forever. Flash should be able to take his tiebreakers. Who knows about group B...they could last awhile too, maybe. Infinite OSL ftw!!! | ||
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On May 30 2012 21:04 SkelA wrote: Either way we MUST have 4 tiebreakers lol . I just hope we get something similar to the tiebreakers with Gogo, Effort and Shine. If you read the lr thread of those tiebreakers, you might change your wish... Those games were incredibly bad. | ||
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On May 30 2012 21:05 GeLaar wrote: I wonder, are they really gonna start the tiebreakers at 7:30 PM? Because each of those can take hours to conclude. What do they do if it last until 3 AM? The show must go on ! | ||
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On May 30 2012 21:06 corumjhaelen wrote: If you read the lr thread of those tiebreakers, you might change your wish... Those games were incredibly bad. Good god let's not have those again, the tiebreakers in the other group with fantasy and pure on the same day were way better | ||
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Zona
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On May 30 2012 21:06 corumjhaelen wrote: If you read the lr thread of those tiebreakers, you might change your wish... Those games were incredibly bad. I was there. They were...interesting, to say the least. | ||
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wassbix
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Casters are joking about 3 tier breakers being an Overnight package. | ||
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Zona
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I wonder if it's a good sign, for him? | ||
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ShadeR
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On May 30 2012 21:07 Zona wrote: I was there. They were...interesting, to say the least. The commentators were so bushed they started crying for earlier gg's LOL | ||
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Caihead
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On May 30 2012 21:07 Zona wrote: I was there. They were...interesting, to say the least. MVP of Korean OSL S2: Effort's mouse. | ||
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corumjhaelen
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On May 30 2012 21:07 Zona wrote: I was there. They were...interesting, to say the least. I wasn't lring but I watched all the vods. I feel for you. Were you there for Shine[name] vs Canata ? | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
On May 30 2012 21:07 wassbix wrote: Casters are joking about 3 tier breakers being an Overnight package. Yeah, that would be epic. | ||
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wassbix
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On May 30 2012 21:08 corumjhaelen wrote: I wasn't lring but I watched all the vods. I feel for you. Were you there for Shine[name] vs Canata ? It was gogo vs shine vs Effort vs Effort's mouse On May 30 2012 21:09 Sawamura wrote: Wait are tie breakers really that long o.o ? Last tie breakers went for like 7-8 hours haha | ||
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Kittan
Poland3999 Posts
On May 30 2012 21:08 ShadeR wrote: The commentators were so bushed the started crying for ealier gg's LOL People coming to the studio after seeing the games on TV were funny as hell. | ||
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538
Hungary3932 Posts
On May 30 2012 21:08 corumjhaelen wrote: I wasn't lring but I watched all the vods. I feel for you. Were you there for Shine[name] vs Canata ? I was also watching live, and I recall I enjoyed the event a lot But maybe if I read my comments from that thread, I'd find something else, who knows :D | ||
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Caihead
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On May 30 2012 21:09 Sawamura wrote: Wait are tie breakers really that long o.o ? They have a potential to never end if all players go 1-1. | ||
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Zona
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On May 30 2012 21:09 Sawamura wrote: Wait are tie breakers really that long o.o ? They play until a player wins twice in a row. Sometimes the players keep trading wins... | ||
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corumjhaelen
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On May 30 2012 21:10 wassbix wrote: It was gogo vs shine vs Effort vs Effort's mouse You don't get what I mean. That was another time, a boring 1h15+ min TvT with noone attacking, the lr thread went crazy and recommended the game at like 95% to troll VOD watchers^^ | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
Just read the OP. Funny as hell. | ||
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Zona
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Horang2 the protoss at 10.5 Soo the zerg at 1.5 | ||
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wassbix
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On May 30 2012 21:11 corumjhaelen wrote: You don't get what I mean. That was another time, a boring 1h15+ min TvT with noone attacking, the lr thread went crazy and recommended the game at like 95% to troll VOD watchers^^ ah my apologies | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
On May 30 2012 21:11 GTR wrote: commentators dreading if this group goes to tiebreaks, tuesday will never end. One netizen's joke about BW OSL going on forever: re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re...... | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On May 30 2012 21:11 corumjhaelen wrote: You don't get what I mean. That was another time, a boring 1h15+ min TvT with noone attacking, the lr thread went crazy and recommended the game at like 95% to troll VOD watchers^^ Oh I believe I was also one who voted in that troll poll muahahahahahaha... | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On May 30 2012 21:10 538 wrote: I was also watching live, and I recall I enjoyed the event a lot But maybe if I read my comments from that thread, I'd find something else, who knows :DI think people enjoyed the people who came down by car to watch the end more than the games in themselves^^ | ||
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Caihead
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On May 30 2012 21:11 trifecta wrote: perhaps infinite tiebreak becomes infinite bw? Perhaps stork sleeps in and starts playing mobile games, the possibilities are endless | ||
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Zona
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Soo takes his nat | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On May 30 2012 21:12 Sawamura wrote: Oh I believe I was also one who voted in that troll poll muahahahahahaha... which game was that | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On May 30 2012 21:12 Sawamura wrote: Oh I believe I was also one who voted in that troll poll muahahahahahaha... FUCK YOU. Rofl. | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On May 30 2012 21:13 wassbix wrote: Wonder if the casting crew gets paid overtime ^^ Being a camera man is no easy job | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
Group D (aka the "Group of Life") HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13032 Posts
On May 30 2012 21:11 jpak wrote: LR of the infamous 7-hour tiebreaker Just read the OP. Funny as hell. Just watch the epic casting from Nuke too ! | ||
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Zona
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Soo with 6 lings heading out - denies the probe Gateway in front of the choke 3rd hatch placed at 5.5 | ||
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Zona
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Core placed at the nat, right underneath the overlord's watching eyes | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Alright! Den at the nat! | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
This plus the rematch. Don't watch, you head will hurt. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
This ought to be good another scouting probe heading out - will lings be able to deny it? | ||
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Zona
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oh wait 2nd cannon cancelled lolololol! | ||
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Zona
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hydra hitting the gateway... 2 more cannons placed cannon down! yeah this is it | ||
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KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
Tiebreakers in 3/4. | ||
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valaki
Hungary2476 Posts
On May 30 2012 21:11 valaki wrote: inb4 hydra bust yep, called it | ||
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Sinedd
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-.- ehh.. | ||
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Kittan
Poland3999 Posts
Well, fuck. SoO is just too strong vP. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
no ^_^ anymore from horang2, and he concedes btw, I called it. | ||
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tenacity
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c3rberUs
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Wait Stork is eliminated? | ||
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Sawamura
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Poll: Recommend game 4 ? No (29) Yes (3) If you have time ... (1) 33 total votes Your vote: Recommend game 4 ? | ||
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
this was bad.. lol | ||
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538
Hungary3932 Posts
On May 30 2012 21:18 StorkHwaiting wrote: Fuck u Horang and FUCK THIS OSL but let's not pretend it's Horang2's fault that Stork is out of this. He had his own games to play. | ||
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Sawamura
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On May 30 2012 21:18 c3rberUs wrote: Damn hydra bust! I want my tiebreakers. Wait Stork is eliminated? R.I.P commander..... | ||
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Twelve12
Australia268 Posts
On May 30 2012 21:17 Darksoldierr wrote: Is it me or 9 of 10 PvZ nowdays ends with hydra bust? It seems that way :S. I actually cant remember the last non hydra bust ZvP ive watched | ||
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Zona
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On May 30 2012 21:18 KristofferAG wrote: How hard can it be to add on a cannon? he did add a cannon then he cancelled it | ||
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hifriend
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SkelA
Macedonia13032 Posts
So sad for Stork now | ||
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New Zealand1176 Posts
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c3rberUs
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! T_T | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
keep in mind the ones where Protoss opened 2gate and Zerg was just responding to that | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On May 30 2012 21:19 hifriend wrote: oh shit that actually meant stork is eliminated? what a pleasant surprise qq how is it pleasant | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On May 30 2012 21:19 BrosephBrostar wrote: So who advances from the last group? Zero and Soo | ||
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On May 30 2012 21:20 Zona wrote: Well for those of you talking about all of the recent ZvP's, keep in mind the ones where Protoss opened 2gate and Zerg was just responding to that I cannot forgive Jangbi ............ | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On May 30 2012 21:20 arbiter_md wrote: So, stork will remain in history as the one with 100 wins OSL. He didn't want more. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On May 30 2012 21:19 Anomek wrote: Can someone explain to me how almost every ZvP I've seen lately is 2base prot dies to 3base zerg with hydras? I'm BW noob, but that looks suspicious. Well its partly because its hard to hold and its easy to execute for zerg and than go into 5 hatch from there. But mostly because Ps die because they refuse to get more than one cannon and they die like n00bs over and over. Horang2 did actually get another cannon but he canceled it lol. | ||
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oldgregg
New Zealand1176 Posts
On May 30 2012 21:19 Twelve12 wrote: It seems that way :S. I actually cant remember the last non hydra bust ZvP ive watched what about jangbi vs action? | ||
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Zona
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On May 30 2012 21:20 PineappleLumpsToss wrote: Big surprise, after being roundly BM'd during the lottery Soo fires up and 3-0's his group. Why poke the bear? Zero went 3-0, actually That means Soo (2nd in D) might get matched up against Fantasy (1st in C)! Yikes | ||
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Caihead
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On May 30 2012 21:20 arbiter_md wrote: So, stork will remain in history as the one with 100 wins OSL. He didn't want more. along with boxer and July | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
![[image loading]](http://reps.ru/img/facepalm.gif) No words for that. That hydra den was fucking shining and open for everybody's eye. How could you not go and scout it? Seriously? | ||
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PineappleLumpsToss
New Zealand2434 Posts
On May 30 2012 21:21 Zona wrote: Zero went 3-0, actually That means Soo (2nd in D) might get matched up against Fantasy (1st in C)! Yikes Haha, I knew somebody would snap me before I could quickly edit my post - serves me right for not double-checking my facts, but hey, it's late and I'm lazy. | ||
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hifriend
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On May 30 2012 21:21 TheKefka wrote: Well its partly because its hard to hold and its easy to execute for zerg. But mostly because Ps refuse to get more than one cannon and they die like n00bs over and over. Horang2 did actually get another cannon but he canceled it lol. Don't you need to scout it and put down ~4-5 cannons in order to hold it anyway? That extra second cannon wouldn't seem to add a whole lot of safety? The sair is supposed to be timed so that it scouts it on its way to their base. | ||
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scrubtastic
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also: Flash will be fine, he should be better at tiebreaker games than Action/Bogus, do you really think Action or Bogus will 2-0 before Flash does? I think not | ||
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Zona
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well, the comment implied exactly 100 wins but given that I fully expect OGN to count whatever SC2 OSL they hold to be the same continuation of the BW OSL, they'll still continue to add to the count | ||
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Anomek
Poland152 Posts
On May 30 2012 21:21 TheKefka wrote: Well its partly because its hard to hold and its easy to execute for zerg. But mostly because Ps refuse to get more than one cannon and they die like n00bs over and over. Horang2 did actually get another cannon but he canceled it lol. That's what my untrained BW eyes see Thanks for response | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
July has 100, yellow has 99 T_T forever -1 | ||
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plaszczka
Poland376 Posts
i really like new BW+SC2 format, but i guess all we gonna get from upcoming seasons is really weak gameplay from BW progamers. SC2 will grow for sure, but level of bw games is so fuc***g low. i'm sad and sorry for stork | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On May 30 2012 21:21 Zona wrote: Zero went 3-0, actually That means Soo (2nd in D) might get matched up against Fantasy (1st in C)! Yikes soO going to play the part of Hyuk. D: | ||
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KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
On May 30 2012 21:23 Caihead wrote: Well so far Jangbi / Fantasy / Shine / Zero / Soo advance. 1T 1P 3Z's Will be at least 4Z in Ro8. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
True say. And potential for 5 zergs oh boy. | ||
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
Oh Stork... Horangee.... | ||
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PineappleLumpsToss
New Zealand2434 Posts
Looking forward to next Tuesday already. | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
Edit : No problem | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
What. | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
oh well. .jangbi is still in this osl right | ||
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Deleted User 135096
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On May 30 2012 21:27 Caihead wrote: If flash loses tie breakers, then this is an OSL with no TBLS in the Ro8. What. already isn't, Stork is out... | ||
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Kittan
Poland3999 Posts
3/4 for today, sadface since Group D would be most entertaining out of all 4. Oh well, can't be greedy with ONLY 3 tiebreaker groups, each with the potential for going on and on and on and on and my mouse broke regame plz. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
With out ANY TBLS. | ||
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On May 30 2012 21:28 alffla wrote: .....god why -__-- oh well. .jangbi is still in this osl right Yea. Looks like the best we can hope for is a Jangbi vs Fantasy finals if Flash doesn't make it out | ||
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ah, read that wrong | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
Last time we've had no TBLS in the Ro8 was in Shinhan 2006-3 T_T. Same with MSL, was in 2006 Pringles 2. | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
On May 30 2012 21:28 letian wrote: fuck! I hate you hyvaa! it's not hyvaa. It's that Soulkey suddenly started to build and do shit when he had a BO advantage. | ||
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Emon_
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On May 30 2012 21:33 Caihead wrote: Yea. Looks like the best we can hope for is a Jangbi vs Fantasy finals if Flash doesn't make it out I for one wouldn't mind some fresh blood in the finals. Shine, Bogus, Mini, Soulkey and Zero are all great players that give the time to prepare for a Bo5 finals could show fantastic games. Fantasy, Jangbi & Flash have their work cut out for them in this Ro8 | ||
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scrubtastic
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On May 30 2012 21:33 Caihead wrote: Yea. Looks like the best we can hope for is a Jangbi vs Fantasy finals if Flash doesn't make it out Am...am I going to have to defend Flash, against a Flash fan... ...despite being a Fantasy fan? Fine. Flash should 2-0 his group before Action/Bogus. In fact I think it's like 90%+ that Flash will make it out. Why? a) Action should basically never win vs Flash. Not just because Flash is awesome at TvZ - Flash probably annihilated Action so much in practice that Action has PTSD and will have a very hard time taking a game at all. Action had the position of his dreams last game and he failed miserably - usually Action does not fail in lategame like that with his ZvT, and I think he did mostly because it was against Flash b) Action should win against Bogus at least some of the time. Not just because Action lategame ZvT is good, but because Action will only have to prep ZvT while Bogus will have to practice 2 matchups, one of which is vs Flash c) Bogus won't be able to plan as well in tiebreakers and won't necessarily have the edge he did here. d) If there's an environment that favors on-the-fly dynamic play, it's tiebreakers, and if there's a player that embodies unplanned-yet-solid play it's Flash. As a sidenote I hate fair-weather fans (you know who you are). Fantasy has a long history of awesome coupled with spectacular self-inflicted failure; Flash has a history that goes somewhere between somewhat awesome and fucking awesome despite injury. Fantasy finally gains the consistency and Flash starts faltering a little and suddenly the sky is falling? Screw you. | ||
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Bulgaria4116 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18407 Posts
I find it outright disrespectful to the other players if you blame SC2 on your favourite player's losses. Last time I looked everyone had to play BW and SC2. | ||
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hewley
Germany1063 Posts
Stork, why are you so silly? Hoping for Flash, Soulkey and Rush to make it out of the tiebreakers. | ||
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
I didn't notice just how good he is atm. 10 game winning streak, He is #1 in ELO with a new personal best of 2330 and has broken NADA's and Savior's ELO peaks. Plus he is dominating the OSL (champion, then final, this season undefeated) and he has dominated in Proleague. | ||
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Caihead
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On May 30 2012 22:00 scrubtastic wrote: Am...am I going to have to defend Flash, against a Flash fan... ...despite being a Fantasy fan? Fine. Flash should 2-0 his group before Action/Bogus. In fact I think it's like 90%+ that Flash will make it out. Why? a) Action should basically never win vs Flash. Not just because Flash is awesome at TvZ - Flash probably annihilated Action so much in practice that Action has PTSD and will have a very hard time taking a game at all. Action had the position of his dreams last game and he failed miserably - usually Action does not fail in lategame like that with his ZvT, and I think he did mostly because it was against Flash b) Action should win against Bogus at least some of the time. Not just because Action lategame ZvT is good, but because Action will only have to prep ZvT while Bogus will have to practice 2 matchups, one of which is vs Flash c) Bogus won't be able to plan as well in tiebreakers and won't necessarily have the edge he did here. d) If there's an environment that favors on-the-fly dynamic play, it's tiebreakers, and if there's a player that embodies unplanned-yet-solid play it's Flash. As a sidenote I hate fair-weather fans (you know who you are). Fantasy has a long history of awesome coupled with spectacular self-inflicted failure; Flash has a history that goes somewhere between somewhat awesome and fucking awesome despite injury. Fantasy finally gains the consistency and Flash starts faltering a little and suddenly the sky is falling? Screw you. Haven't I already said Flash / Fantasy will be fine because they are good in the long run because of their work ethic? I prefaced it with a big IF flash doesn't make it out. If he does we would have so many good quarter - semi final possibilities, that's how big a presence the TBLS are, they force players to step up their game and produce exciting games in BO >=3 situations, in BO1's players just cheese the fuck out of them with prepared strategies. | ||
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babysuperga
Vietnam49 Posts
Unless he doesn't want to show everyone he's still the best BW player. | ||
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Agrajag
Sweden38 Posts
On May 30 2012 14:44 bowen888 wrote: Bogus/ Fantasy/hyvaa/Soo You heard it here first!!! Nice Although I'm rooting for Flash, Zero or Jangbi to win, I've got a bad feeling that Soo will take the trophy. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On May 30 2012 22:26 Agrajag wrote: Although I'm rooting for Flash, Zero or Jangbi to win, I've got a bad feeling that Soo will take the trophy. If soulkey and flash don't get out of the tiebreakers I can't see anyone stopping fantasy. SoO would need to avoid ZvT completely to have a shot. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On May 30 2012 21:38 Caihead wrote: Last time we've had no TBLS in the Ro8 was in Shinhan 2006-3 T_T. Same with MSL, was in 2006 Pringles 2. Well, I can't remember when the T from TBLS was last seen in an OSL RO8 anyway. And I'm an SKT fan. Hopefully, Soo doesn't become the next Hyuk and get matched against Fantasy next round. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4116 Posts
On May 30 2012 22:31 Scarecrow wrote: Yeah i'm not really worried about the tiebreaker. Flash'll be fine, you don't just forget how to play BW when you've played for as long and as well as he has. Dropping a TvT is not a big deal, he's been doing it on and off for ages. People need to stop acting like he had a 100% winrate prior to sc2. If soulkey and flash don't get out of the tiebreakers I can't see anyone stopping fantasy. SoO would need to avoid ZvT completely to have a shot. Which is not so unthinkable providing that we will have between 1 to 3 terrans in the round of 8 (most likely 2 terrans) | ||
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Poland324 Posts
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hitthat
Poland2267 Posts
Guys, Flash still is not out, and before he is not out, he is...not out! | ||
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greggy
United Kingdom1483 Posts
But just think of Flash v Fanta semis.. or finals.. mouth-watering. P.S. fantasy is on a fucking roll though. Easy group, granted, but he violated these rookies so hard it's not even funny. | ||
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HighTemper
Canada3867 Posts
Horangee I smell Jangbi vs Fantasy Finals repeat. | ||
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Brazil9072 Posts
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Cam Connor
Canada786 Posts
On May 30 2012 14:44 bowen888 wrote: Bogus/ Fantasy/hyvaa/Soo You heard it here first!!! Sup nostradamus | ||
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Sethronu
United Kingdom450 Posts
Not that this makes me sad in the slightest, as Fanta really is the most underrated and unlucky player in history of Starcraft. | ||
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hitthat
Poland2267 Posts
On May 31 2012 00:20 Sethronu wrote: Not that this makes me sad in the slightest, as Fanta really is the most underrated and unlucky player in history of Starcraft. Fanta WAS underrated before his last OSL final, when he got 2nd final in a raw. That finals shut so many nonbelievers... If we are talking about potential chances, my bets- -Flash is still in play and I dont see him losing ties, so he is still one of favorites to take gold. He doesnt sim to be so unbeatable thou. -Fantasy is a beast in BoX, Bo3 is the the only solid chance to beat him without trouble, as in Bo5 he is a nightmare for any oponent, and i remember only 1 series when he was beaten 3-1 (memorable semi vs Jeadong). Even during his slump he was capable of fight a incredible series versus many top players. -Jangbi...well, i underrestimated him last time, now i will not talk about his chances. He is just too big enigma. -Zero - not in form, still I will not discount him. Zero in top form is incredible -Soulkey - made Fantasy his favorite bitch in MSL, but in Bo5 he may have a difficulties. I dont see him being capable of beating Flash thou, not in Bo5 at last. His chances are good. -Soo - i have no idea, maybe if Fanta will die in Bo3 or semi and Flash will not make it through. -Shine - I see him heaving good chance if flash wont make it and he wont meet Fanta in Bo5. | ||
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Potling
Norway298 Posts
Oh right, it's a reprise of 90% of the ZvP games played this year. A drunken monkey could have seen that hydra bust coming, why can't Protosses add at least one extra cannon so they don't instantly lose critical games? [/rant] | ||
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SCnai
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On May 30 2012 21:11 trifecta wrote: perhaps infinite tiebreak becomes infinite bw? It might be that the players found a way to keep BW alive forever after all! | ||
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
On May 30 2012 21:21 Zona wrote: Zero went 3-0, actually That means Soo (2nd in D) might get matched up against Fantasy (1st in C)! Yikes This could have been Stork vs Fantasy. Seriously, F this OSL. | ||
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ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
Can't believe he lost that, how do tiebreakers work? All play against each other again? | ||
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SCnai
322 Posts
On May 31 2012 01:34 ProxyKnoxy wrote: Oh god... if Flash doesn't get out this group... Can't believe he lost that, how do tiebreakers work? All play against each other again? All the players with the same record (second best after the winner of the group) play each other. If no-one wins both games, repeat. This means the tie breakers can in principle go to infinity. | ||
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ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
On May 31 2012 01:40 SCnai wrote: All the players with the same record (second best after the winner of the group) play each other. If no-one wins both games, repeat. This means the tie breakers can in principle go to infinity. Ah I get it, thanks. Flash should have the best chance to get out his group, as long as he beats Bogus. I don't see him losing against Action... pretty sure his last televised loss against a zerg was almost a year ago. | ||
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VeNoM HaZ Skill
United States1528 Posts
On May 31 2012 00:38 hitthat wrote: Fanta WAS underrated before his last OSL final, when he got 2nd final in a raw. That finals shut so many nonbelievers... If we are talking about potential chances, my bets- -Flash is still in play and I dont see him losing ties, so he is still one of favorites to take gold. He doesnt sim to be so unbeatable thou. -Fantasy is a beast in BoX, Bo3 is the the only solid chance to beat him without trouble, as in Bo5 he is a nightmare for any oponent, and i remember only 1 series when he was beaten 3-1 (memorable semi vs Jeadong). Even during his slump he was capable of fight a incredible series versus many top players. -Jangbi...well, i underrestimated him last time, now i will not talk about his chances. He is just too big enigma. -Zero - not in form, still I will not discount him. Zero in top form is incredible -Soulkey - made Fantasy his favorite bitch in MSL, but in Bo5 he may have a difficulties. I dont see him being capable of beating Flash thou, not in Bo5 at last. His chances are good. -Soo - i have no idea, maybe if Fanta will die in Bo3 or semi and Flash will not make it through. -Shine - I see him heaving good chance if flash wont make it and he wont meet Fanta in Bo5. Let me lay out the Fantasy line: 2008- The next Terran in the line of SKT comes forward. Makes it to the OSL finals and loses. He'll dominate next year. 2009- Okay he lost in another finals, but it's Jaedong, so it's understandable. Later in 2009- Wow, he just can't win against Jaedong, maybe he peaked. 2010- Flash is pretty good, Fantasy definitely hit his peak a year ago. Late 2010- HOLY SHIT!!! Fantasy din't hit his peak 2 years ago, he's pretty awesome. First half of 2011- Wow never mind. This is literally the worst play I've ever seen. Really Fantasy? The B-Team? Late 2011 til Now- Fantasy is probably the best BW player in the world right now. He really got his shit together. To bad BW is in it's death throws. | ||
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2716 Posts
When are the tiebreakers? | ||
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zeden
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On May 30 2012 14:44 bowen888 wrote: Bogus/ Fantasy/hyvaa/Soo You heard it here first!!! I knew this would happen! Sad for Stork though. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
That hyvaa vs Soulkey made me really hate the volatility of ZvZ Poor Soulkey he looked like he didn't want to gg before leaving. | ||
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Kiett
United States7639 Posts
There goes all my interest in this OSL ^_^ | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On May 31 2012 03:15 Kiett wrote: So. The only group I desperately wanted tiebreakers in... didn't get it. Cool. There goes all my interest in this OSL ^_^ ... hurting e-sports ! /rant off Zero not qt enough for you? Jangbanger not protoss enough? | ||
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Mrwl
Sweden339 Posts
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On May 31 2012 02:24 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote: Let me lay out the Fantasy line: 2008- The next Terran in the line of SKT comes forward. Makes it to the OSL finals and loses. He'll dominate next year. 2009- Okay he lost in another finals, but it's Jaedong, so it's understandable. Later in 2009- Wow, he just can't win against Jaedong, maybe he peaked. 2010- Flash is pretty good, Fantasy definitely hit his peak a year ago. Late 2010- HOLY SHIT!!! Fantasy din't hit his peak 2 years ago, he's pretty awesome. First half of 2011- Wow never mind. This is literally the worst play I've ever seen. Really Fantasy? The B-Team? Late 2011 til Now- Fantasy is probably the best BW player in the world right now. He really got his shit together. To bad BW is in it's death throws. Fantasy were allways considered second to flash allways till the PL finals, maybe fantasy had better tvp than flash but flashes tvt (and tvz especially) were still considered better. Still, counting flash out is dangerous, he's gone into rape and pillage mode after getting smacked on before, he can do it again. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
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ragnorr
Denmark6097 Posts
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Ryo
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Operations
115 Posts
his face most of the game was like yawn rape ez bring me teh carriers | ||
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SlowBullets
United States839 Posts
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amazingoopah
United States1925 Posts
still this is the last OSL so I guess the more games the merrie x-x | ||
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Shurayuki
Germany2665 Posts
But disregarding the circumstances, WOOOOOO~~~~ SOOOO~~~~ MA BOI <3 stick it to Party in the Beerstonian Republic! | ||
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Zallkar
United States449 Posts
Here's hoping for some more never ending tiebreaks! ...but ugh Horangee failed Stork | ||
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
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Ideas
United States8100 Posts
fantasy looks fucking invincible in every MU right now. goddamn. so tiebreakers for 2nd place in groups 1-3? did they say when they tie-breakers will take place? | ||
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Sethronu
United Kingdom450 Posts
On May 31 2012 04:19 Iplaythings wrote: Fantasy were allways considered second to flash allways till the PL finals, maybe fantasy had better tvp than flash but flashes tvt (and tvz especially) were still considered better. That's the thing about Fantasy, though. Everyone knows he's a good player, and his play is very stylistic and most of the time fun to watch - but he never really got the recognition or attention he deserves. There's been like, dozens of players who aren't nearly as hard-working, skilled, or fun to watch as Fantasy who were discussed and hyped more than him. Just take the last OSL finals - sure, Jangbi's was a cute storyline as well, but what makes him so much more special than Fantasy? And yet, he's had like ten times the support of Fanta's. Or the last PL final - he was literally the guy who brought SKT there, and yet Bisu grabs the spotlight once again. I can't help but feel bad for him, really. :p | ||
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wassbix
Canada499 Posts
On May 31 2012 03:15 Kiett wrote: So. The only group I desperately wanted tiebreakers in... didn't get it. Cool. There goes all my interest in this OSL ^_^ But Fantasy | ||
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
wtf Edit: Nevermind didn't read entire op | ||
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bowen888
Canada31 Posts
On May 30 2012 15:15 J1.au wrote: Anyone picking Bogus is scared Flash will beat their favourite players. Yo mean everyone picking Bogus is using their head to analysis the players rather than using their fanboyism doing their picking. | ||
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bowen888
Canada31 Posts
lol seems like 4/4 for me.. hehe | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On May 31 2012 08:55 bowen888 wrote: Yo mean everyone picking Bogus is using their head to analysis the players rather than using their fanboyism doing their picking. Exactly how is picking Bogus supposed to qualify as good analysis of the players? Bogus has been struggling HORRIBLY in the Terran vs Terran match-up. Prior to this match, Flash was 4-1 since the break against tough competition, 10-3 in the past 12 months, 56-17 in the past 24 months, highest ELO vs Terran and highest ELO peak vs Terran. Bogus is not even top 25 ELO vs Terran or top 25 ELO peak, HAD NOT WON A SINGLE GAME vs TERRAN SINCE THE BREAK (0-6), 5-7 past 12 months, 13-15 past 24 months. Head-to-head he was 0-3 against Flash. Even if we look at the map, Bogus had only a 2-4 record on Sniper Ridge compared to Flash's 4-1 record. There is absolutely nothing there to indicate that Bogus had a good chance of victory. | ||
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GhostOwl
766 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On May 31 2012 10:33 Katsuge wrote: when are the tiebreakers? 5th June at 7.30pm KST | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
augh how anyone could be happy with Soo winning and having no stork in an OSL is beyond me, I'm an action fan and i like bogus but same idea with flash being out of the OSL. WHY? | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10341 Posts
On May 31 2012 09:59 Mortality wrote: Exactly how is picking Bogus supposed to qualify as good analysis of the players? Bogus has been struggling HORRIBLY in the Terran vs Terran match-up. Prior to this match, Flash was 4-1 since the break against tough competition, 10-3 in the past 12 months, 56-17 in the past 24 months, highest ELO vs Terran and highest ELO peak vs Terran. Bogus is not even top 25 ELO vs Terran or top 25 ELO peak, HAD NOT WON A SINGLE GAME vs TERRAN SINCE THE BREAK (0-6), 5-7 past 12 months, 13-15 past 24 months. Head-to-head he was 0-3 against Flash. Even if we look at the map, Bogus had only a 2-4 record on Sniper Ridge compared to Flash's 4-1 record. There is absolutely nothing there to indicate that Bogus had a good chance of victory. Pretty sure he meant analyzing this one game itself, not whatever it is your doing. Also, you seem upset. In addition that's what makes brood war great. Games aren't played on paper, or by the fans, anything can happen, and much to the dismay of Flash and JD fans, things do happen occasionally. Remember when even at the (or one of) the peaks of Flash's career, he lost like 5,6, or 7 consecutive ace matches, most (all?) to terrans? He was still the best overall player, but players can practice and plan accordingly and outplay Flash. He's just human after all. What's the big deal? He's not even eliminated yet. | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10341 Posts
On May 31 2012 10:40 Caihead wrote: augh how anyone could be happy with Soo winning and having no stork in an OSL is beyond me, I'm an action fan and i like bogus but same idea with flash being out of the OSL. WHY? Stork taunited Soo confidently at the ceremony and lost (SoO cited it as dismissive but motivating). He 2 gated zero and lost. He's planted the seeds of his own defeat. Would I prefer an OSL with Stork instead of SoO? About a thousand times over, yes. But OSLs aren't popularity contests. Also, tiebreakers galore. | ||
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AdrianInzunza
Mexico44 Posts
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
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bowen888
Canada31 Posts
On May 31 2012 09:59 Mortality wrote: Exactly how is picking Bogus supposed to qualify as good analysis of the players? Bogus has been struggling HORRIBLY in the Terran vs Terran match-up. Prior to this match, Flash was 4-1 since the break against tough competition, 10-3 in the past 12 months, 56-17 in the past 24 months, highest ELO vs Terran and highest ELO peak vs Terran. Bogus is not even top 25 ELO vs Terran or top 25 ELO peak, HAD NOT WON A SINGLE GAME vs TERRAN SINCE THE BREAK (0-6), 5-7 past 12 months, 13-15 past 24 months. Head-to-head he was 0-3 against Flash. Even if we look at the map, Bogus had only a 2-4 record on Sniper Ridge compared to Flash's 4-1 record. There is absolutely nothing there to indicate that Bogus had a good chance of victory. Your just sore that your favourite player lost...Grow up! | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
On May 31 2012 10:32 Caihead wrote: Why are people saying fantasy is underrated? Protege of Boxer / iloveoov / SKT coaching. Early and consistent deep tournament results against TBLS. Just being the terran under boxer / iloveoov already got him more hype than flash ever did until flash won multiple golds. As far as people making fun of him goes, it's because he was overrated and made eccentric builds and refused to GG (which are characteristic of lesser players, which is why the comparison is funny). He hit a bump in 2011 but so do all players, fantasy fans (i'm one of them) should stop pretending they are cheering for an underdog when he's clearly got the most resources of any terran in the league teammate /practice partner wise, coaching wise, and resources wise. Fantasy has never been put on the same level as Bisu or Stork, nor considered Code S, despite far better SL results than both and sometimes better PL results. Only recently did he get 1st rank on the power rank. He has NEVER lost a PL post-season game and has come up big in the biggest moments. He easily won against Stork but wasn't considered the favorite in the next season, maybe not even in the top 3. People, for whatever reason, have never looked at Fantasy in the same light as others like TBLS. Add in people saying his success is only because of Oov and Boxer and you get a lot of fans who do think he is underrated. | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2394 Posts
^_^ edit: But don't think this means that he didn't luck out in beating Stork 3-0 with superior preparation and inferior SKILLS because obv~ | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
Except for shine | ||
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Ryo
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Turbovolver
Australia2394 Posts
Or Jangbi, obv. | ||
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smekz
Portugal503 Posts
On May 31 2012 12:40 setzer wrote: Fantasy has never been put on the same level as Bisu or Stork, nor considered Code S, despite far better SL results than both and sometimes better PL results. Only recently did he get 1st rank on the power rank. He has NEVER lost a PL post-season game and has come up big in the biggest moments. He easily won against Stork but wasn't considered the favorite in the next season, maybe not even in the top 3. People, for whatever reason, have never looked at Fantasy in the same light as others like TBLS. Add in people saying his success is only because of Oov and Boxer and you get a lot of fans who do think he is underrated. don't forget the fact that in TL probably most of skt1 fans are bisu fanboys in the first place. how can he get the recognition he truly deserves when even his team fans failed to acknowledge that? | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On May 31 2012 13:34 Ryo wrote: Nah, Shine can't beat Fantasy. Fantasy's only competitor is Jangbi, as long as Jangbi continues to think he's destined to win the last OSL. You're grossly underestimating flash if you think Fantasy's just gonna walk over him in a Bo5. No way bogus is beating flash twice in a row and action has spent too long getting mauled in practice. | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On May 31 2012 14:05 Scarecrow wrote: You're grossly underestimating flash if you think Fantasy's just gonna walk over him in a Bo5. No way bogus is beating flash twice in a row and action has spent too long getting mauled in practice. I never said Flash wouldn't get past the Ro16, or the Ro8 for that matter. Edit: I'm assuming the winner of A plays the runner-up of group D, like the last 2 OSLs. Or have they released a different draw? | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On May 31 2012 12:16 bowen888 wrote: Your just sore that your favourite player lost...Grow up! He's using statistics to predict something and statistics show that there was a much higher probability of it going one way. What shitty attitude is this trying to tell other people to grow up? These statistics are true regardless of rather he's a KT or STX or flash or bogus fan. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On May 31 2012 14:10 Ryo wrote: I never said Flash wouldn't get past the Ro16, or the Ro8 for that matter. Edit: I'm assuming the winner of A plays the runner-up of group D, like the last 2 OSLs. Or have they released a different draw? I was more disagreeing with the 'jangbi is the only competitor' comment and preempting the counter argument that flash might not even make the ro8. Zero in the ro8 will be ugly, Flash TvZ looks unbeatable these days + it's bo5. A repeat of the MSL Flash vs Fantasy semi would be amazing although I'm not sure how the ro4/8 matchups are decided besides 1st place plays 2nd place. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On May 31 2012 12:40 setzer wrote: Fantasy has never been put on the same level as Bisu or Stork, nor considered Code S, despite far better SL results than both and sometimes better PL results. Only recently did he get 1st rank on the power rank. He has NEVER lost a PL post-season game and has come up big in the biggest moments. He easily won against Stork but wasn't considered the favorite in the next season, maybe not even in the top 3. People, for whatever reason, have never looked at Fantasy in the same light as others like TBLS. Add in people saying his success is only because of Oov and Boxer and you get a lot of fans who do think he is underrated. Someone ignorant of the facts of fantasy's performance can't possible have an evaluation thats worth any weight, and whether they pick an opinion that's underrated or overrated is entirely coincidental. If anything more people overrated him on the ignorant basis that he's boxer / oov's protege, not underrated. The points you made - not same level as bisu or stork (thats because he wasn't when people thought that, which isn't under rating), not considered code S (thats ridiculous, most people did), only recently get 1st rank (thats because he deserved it now, and flash deserved rank 1 most of the time he had it). Legitimate points about other things. Imo he wasn't considered TBLS level because he just couldn't match flash in the rivalry when TBLS was first thought up (2007-2008 Bisu / Stork was a very back and forth rivalry), just like how there isn't another zerg in the TBLS because no other zergs came close then. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On May 31 2012 11:28 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Pretty sure he meant analyzing this one game itself, not whatever it is your doing. Also, you seem upset. In addition that's what makes brood war great. Games aren't played on paper, or by the fans, anything can happen, and much to the dismay of Flash and JD fans, things do happen occasionally. Remember when even at the (or one of) the peaks of Flash's career, he lost like 5,6, or 7 consecutive ace matches, most (all?) to terrans? He was still the best overall player, but players can practice and plan accordingly and outplay Flash. He's just human after all. What's the big deal? He's not even eliminated yet. The big deal is this guy's attitude and saying it's blind fanboyism and that he should "grow up" because he pick flash as favorite over bogus in TvT right now, would be as stupid as someone picking some random zerg over Jaedong during JvZ and saying its blind fanboyism other wise. | ||
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BreakerD
United States159 Posts
Bogus looked good.......He seemed like the the ace player that he's suppose to be. Contained Flash and was all over the place the commentator couldnt seem to keep up............I see Bogus upsetting out of the tie breaker if he can go back into his beast mode from 2 PL ago. | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On May 31 2012 14:20 Scarecrow wrote: I was more disagreeing with the 'jangbi is the only competitor' comment and preempting the counter argument that flash might not even make the ro8. Zero in the ro8 will be ugly, Flash TvZ looks unbeatable these days + it's bo5. A repeat of the MSL Flash vs Fantasy semi would be amazing although I'm not sure how the ro4/8 matchups are decided besides 1st place plays 2nd place. In his current state, I just don't think Flash will win 3 consecutive Bo5s, beating Fantasy along the way. | ||
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Ideas
United States8100 Posts
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Turbovolver
Australia2394 Posts
On May 31 2012 14:58 Ideas wrote: I feel bad for fantasy. he has been the best player in the world for the last 6+ months but never really has a shot to definitely prove it because of lack of venue. fewer PL matches (and no ACE match), seeded in finals so he couldn't rape up playoffs, and only 1 individual league. worst of all it all seems so much less important because of the fucking sc2 switch :\ Yeah, even as an anti-fan I agree whole-heartedly with this :/ | ||
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
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SCnai
322 Posts
On May 31 2012 12:40 setzer wrote: nor considered Code S On May 31 2012 14:23 Caihead wrote: not considered code S Too much SC2 guys... | ||
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Hazzyboy
Estonia555 Posts
Fantasy is underrated by everyone. Bisu got an MVP from Kespa so no need to keep saying that all the time. In other news soO is really "hyuking" everyone up. He was close to finals last OSL and now he proves he can get there again. I'm really pulling for this underdog to shock every1. | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
On May 31 2012 16:25 SCnai wrote: I think when they talk about Fanta being under appreciated they mean the more casual, TV crowd. Fanta is a BW genius in a strict sense of the word: both flamboyant and efficient. He will destroy you and make it look subtle. (/fanboy mode off). Too much SC2 guys... Woops, yeah I meant S-class. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13006 Posts
I don't know what worse: the coin flippy nature of the games or the fact protosses are always dying to it. | ||
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Grend
1600 Posts
Hope Flash advances, he usually does way better in BO5 than group play | ||
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RageCommodore
Germany912 Posts
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Motivate
2860 Posts
that being said, woo fantasy.. loving his new stone cold face as he tears scrubs up with his terrorist bikes | ||
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hitthat
Poland2267 Posts
Yet Fantasy win was crushing. Even than many people didnt want to accept that Fantasy was better than they thouth. All the fault was Stork's earier loss to Zero or ex-girlfriend. But after last finals against Jangbi breakthrough was done and many guys from TL considered him S-class at last. | ||
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On June 01 2012 02:22 dRaW wrote: I think that BW is so dead, and flash doesn't even care anymore he's moved onto SC2. It's quite a shame that BW is ending in this way, a lot of the games look terribly sloppy now -_- at least Fantasy will probably win this OSL. So this is the way BW ends... not with a bang but a whimper. | ||
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CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
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floladriblere
France85 Posts
Wasn't the right guy one of the Iron Squid French casters? Yes, it was the french caster Pomf | ||
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GeLaar
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On May 31 2012 23:40 hitthat wrote: Actually fantasy was underrated for really long time. I just laughing my ass when Kwark made his prediction in Bachus 2011 final with easy 3-0 win for Stork. Not only becouse i KNEW Fantasy was better than this, not only becouse in my opinion Stork's showdown against Hiya was overhyped, but becouse Kwark had his predictions based on Fantasy's TvZ failfast against unpedictable Calm (i know "Clam" likes to be laughting stock sometimes, but he is smart-ass bastard and fighting against him can be as difficult as against more consistent, but predictable oponent). What the fuck? Fantasy's TvP was ALWAYS S-class, how somebody could made such a blunder not taking it into consideration? To be honest, I also thouth that Stork will take gold after really close battle. But not becouse I thouth Fanta was worse, but becouse maps seemed to be so horrible for terran players, that in case of close skilled players protoss victory was nearly asured (hello Aztec!) Yet Fantasy win was crushing. Even than many people didnt want to accept that Fantasy was better than they thouth. All the fault was Stork's earier loss to Zero or ex-girlfriend. But after last finals against Jangbi breakthrough was done and many guys from TL considered him S-class at last. I like Fantasy as much as the next guy, and I've liked him for a long time, but you can't talk about his win over Stork without at least mentioning the fact that Stork was going through a devastating break-up at the time. You may think that he's a professional and that he wouldn't let it interfere with work, but Stork didn't just lose to Fantasy, he lost pretty much every series or game he played during that period. It was quite obviously affecting his performance. | ||
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hitthat
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GeLaar
2421 Posts
On June 01 2012 16:22 hitthat wrote: really? One day after his crushing defeat Stork won ace match against Fanta + beaten Bisu, and that time his mental condition wasnt suposed to be better, right? So no, not so obviously. And two days before he got knocked out of the MSL, again 0-3. It's nice that he beat Fantasy the next day, but I can't imagine anyone on SKT being entirely sober the day after their team mate won an OSL. | ||
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hitthat
Poland2267 Posts
On June 01 2012 16:44 GeLaar wrote: And two days before he got knocked out of the MSL, again 0-3. Against Zero, one of the best Zergs of the Era. And he has never play really that good against Zergs anyway. | ||
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
On May 31 2012 23:18 Motivate wrote: man hyvaa is such a freaking troll! he sucks at zvz normally, and yet he's knocked JD out twice and potentially has taken soulkey out with him! that being said, woo fantasy.. loving his new stone cold face as he tears scrubs up with his terrorist bikes Yeah, hyvaa probable next antihero after Shine. The only difference is, Shine can play well, his commentary are always fun to hear. Hyvaa, Hogil, oh well, JD just needed a bo3 with all of them, so that they would start vZ slumping | ||
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Crisium
United States1618 Posts
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10341 Posts
On June 02 2012 12:41 Crisium wrote: I seriously want to punch Horang2. Why would you cancel that cannon, I don't care how many hatches you think he has. It was basically already done and you'd want two eventually anyway, so since you committed even if you canceled it would still end up costing you 38 minerals wasted, so might as well keep it. What an idiot. As nuke said, it was opposite star-sense. Utter lunacy. We see your Khan tag, thus your rage that Stork failed again, but please do not call other players "idiots." | ||
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Crisium
United States1618 Posts
Once again the burden is on JangBi and JangBi alone to bring glory to Auir. Well, hopefully either Mini or Grape join him in the Ro8, but even if they could get past Rush they would be no match for any of the other Ro8 contenders. | ||
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Djin)ftw(
Germany3357 Posts
Fantasy sucks, he is only good because of Vulture abuse. That is why his tvp and tvt are statistically much better than his tvz. His tvz was horrible, that's why oov had to come up with mech builds so Fantasy could abuse vultures again. It''s not like Fantasy had S-Class MnM tvz and then oov suddenly said "ok, now lets try something else!"Also, he is 0-1 overall against Where, so if my previous argument didn't convince you, this point is undeniable hence I win this debate | ||
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ninini
Sweden1204 Posts
On June 02 2012 20:23 Djin)ftw( wrote: Fantasy sucks, he is only good because of Vulture abuse. That is why his tvp and tvt are statistically much better than his tvz. His tvz was horrible, that's why oov had to come up with mech builds so Fantasy could abuse vultures again. It''s not like Fantasy had S-Class MnM tvz and then oov suddenly said "ok, now lets try something else!"Also, he is 0-1 overall against Where, so if my previous argument didn't convince you, this point is undeniable hence I win this debateThat's like saying Stork sucks because he's only good at abusing dragoons. Vultures are the most important unit in TvP. Fantasy is amazingly efficient with his 270~ apm. He's not as smart as Flash, but he doesn't have to be since he prefers to have a more active role and direct the play. | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10341 Posts
On June 02 2012 20:23 Djin)ftw( wrote: Fantasy sucks, he is only good because of Vulture abuse. That is why his tvp and tvt are statistically much better than his tvz. His tvz was horrible, that's why oov had to come up with mech builds so Fantasy could abuse vultures again. It''s not like Fantasy had S-Class MnM tvz and then oov suddenly said "ok, now lets try something else!"Also, he is 0-1 overall against Where, so if my previous argument didn't convince you, this point is undeniable hence I win this debateI see the humor at the end, but the venom at the beginning seems so pure... | ||
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Skwid1g
United States953 Posts
On June 02 2012 20:23 Djin)ftw( wrote: Fantasy sucks, he is only good because of Vulture abuse. That is why his tvp and tvt are statistically much better than his tvz. His tvz was horrible, that's why oov had to come up with mech builds so Fantasy could abuse vultures again. It''s not like Fantasy had S-Class MnM tvz and then oov suddenly said "ok, now lets try something else!"Also, he is 0-1 overall against Where, so if my previous argument didn't convince you, this point is undeniable hence I win this debateI was about to rage until I saw the last sentence... well played. | ||
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Pit667
Poland130 Posts
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On June 04 2012 23:14 Pit667 wrote: Can you tell me when tie-breakers will be played ? In the event that rematches are needed, they will take place on 5th June at 7.30pm KST, until a winner is determined. | ||
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hitthat
Poland2267 Posts
On June 04 2012 12:22 MountainDewJunkie wrote: I see the humor at the end, but the venom at the beginning seems so pure... Hey, whats wrong with that? He actually admited that Fantasy IS good nevertheless ;P Ow, BTW, Flash suck ass too, he lost against Ssak | ||
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HighTemper
Canada3867 Posts
On June 04 2012 23:18 Sawamura wrote: In the event that rematches are needed, they will take place on 5th June at 7.30pm KST, until a winner is determined. Terrible terrible time slot. I was thinking AM instead of PM... 3 group 3 way tiebreak... may there be another 6-hour apm-arathon till 3 am... only if there is a world record for number of mouse clicks per day... | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On June 01 2012 02:22 dRaW wrote: I think that BW is so dead, and flash doesn't even care anymore he's moved onto SC2. It's quite a shame that BW is ending in this way, a lot of the games look terribly sloppy now -_- at least Fantasy will probably win this OSL. The games have been getting worse for over 8 months man. It's only KeSPA. Besides that, I'd say Fantasy has been playing better than the other guys for around the same timeframe as well. It's going to be funny when all the excuses come rolling around, but honestly. Fantasy has been hot since the start of last PL, but we're only seeing the results now on the ELO and all that other shit because it takes time for it to set in. | ||
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Hazzyboy
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