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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On May 26 2012 02:41 Failsafe wrote: I've read disturbing things on Facebook about water available to public in the Eastern United States. who needs wikipedia anymore? | ||
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kanada
Canada255 Posts
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Epishade
United States2267 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
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Cokefreak
Finland8094 Posts
On May 26 2012 04:57 marttorn wrote: Yeah, why wouldn't you trust your tap water, mine comes from a lake called "Pee lake" in Norwegian :o Dude, that's nothing, there's a lake near here named shitpond and I've swam in it. | ||
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Paljas
Germany6926 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 26 2012 05:30 Paljas wrote: one of the most trolled blogs on tl. This one has maybe 10% of the trolling that this had. The difference? That one, he trolled himself. This one, he at least had the common courtesy to get other people to do it. | ||
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solidbebe
Netherlands4921 Posts
On May 26 2012 05:02 JingleHell wrote: I love my tap water, it's really hard, and you can just taste all the minerals. And the cereal boxes talk about all those minerals being essential, so my water must be great for me! Man sometimes when I drink my daily dose of super duper mineral rich healthy water I can just feel the fizzling bubbling fluid of life sizzling in my mouth and having chemical reactions with my saliva. Needless to say I've died quite a few times already. | ||
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Dr_Strange
United States80 Posts
On May 26 2012 03:43 Chill wrote: There's nothing wrong with being skeptical and seeking real information. But if you decide that you don't trust the thousands of scientists, regulators and engineers that control your tap water, you have to decide that you don't trust the FDA to regulate your food; you don't trust electrical regulators to protect you from harmful signals; and the list goes on and on. It's a pretty bold move to stop believing in the people who are trying to protect you without doing due diligence. That is why Japan, Sweden, Germany, and a bunch of other countries have banned flouride? | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 26 2012 06:03 Dr_Strange wrote: That is why Japan, Sweden, Germany, and a bunch of other countries have banned flouride? There are also countries which have banned pornography. Is it inherently bad for you? I mean aside from making your eyes fall out, and growing hair on your palms and all that? | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On May 26 2012 06:03 Dr_Strange wrote: That is why Japan, Sweden, Germany, and a bunch of other countries have banned flouride? Japan Currently less than 1% of Japan has community water fluoridation. Dental disease in Japan is very severe compared to the United States. | ||
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solidbebe
Netherlands4921 Posts
On May 26 2012 06:07 JingleHell wrote: There are also countries which have banned pornography. Is it inherently bad for you? I mean aside from making your eyes fall out, and growing hair on your palms and all that? Did they ban pornography because they thought it has bad effects on society ( m/b mental issues?) or because it's physically not good for you? In any case though. there's problaby good reason some countries have banned fluoride in tap water, I appreciate your trust in the government and the thousands of people working on national safety (which they should be appreciated for) but I'm getting the feeling that even if someon laid out 100% undeniable proof that fluoride in tap water is bad afore you, you would still deny it. | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On May 26 2012 06:03 Dr_Strange wrote: That is why Japan, Sweden, Germany, and a bunch of other countries have banned flouride? That's due more to the ethical and moral issue behind putting additives into the public drinking water for reasons other than ensuring the safety of the drinking water. Specifically, that you're removing an individual's right to choose whether or not they want to consume that health additive. Chill's arguing about the lack of conclusive scientific evidence linking water floridation to any specific health issues; and that if there were regulators would not allow it. Granted, the anti-floridation people do bring up some interesting things. For starters, the fact that the main source of Floride, Fluorosilicic acid, is actually a by product of Fertilizer manufacturing that would otherwise be costly to disspose of safely if not dumped into our drinking water. Of course no evidence of wrong doing or illicit influence has ever been shown. There have also been a few studies that have suggested a link between water Floridation and and increased risk of childhood bone cancer; though none of these links have ever been proven conclusively. Though without evidence, claims are just claims. And there is hard scientific evidence that clearly links water floridation with a significant decrease in childhood cavities. Though the moral and ethical issues of dumping chemicals into the water supply for the "public good" are still up for debate. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 26 2012 06:11 solidbebe wrote: Did they ban pornography because they thought it has bad effects on society ( m/b mental issues?) or because it's physically not good for you? In any case though. there's problaby good reason some countries have banned fluoride in tap water, I appreciate your trust in the government and the thousands of people working on national safety (which they should be appreciated for) but I'm getting the feeling that even if someon laid out 100% undeniable proof that fluoride in tap water is bad afore you, you would still deny it. It's generally banned due to religion. Also, don't attack critical thinking skills without evidence, especially when someone is pretty blatantly just having fun. It shows a deficiency in your own to allow a bias like that. If someone laid out evidence, that I could understand, that was actually 100% undeniable, I'd pretty clearly agree with it. What I don't do, however, is follow the herd mentality. If I did, I'd be utterly insane from trying to keep up with what's unhealthy for me today, and why it will actually be the miracle cure tomorrow. In other words, until the risks outweigh the benefits, I'll deal with it. | ||
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solidbebe
Netherlands4921 Posts
On May 26 2012 06:16 JingleHell wrote: It's generally banned due to religion. Also, don't attack critical thinking skills without evidence, especially when someone is pretty blatantly just having fun. It shows a deficiency in your own to allow a bias like that. If someone laid out evidence, that I could understand, that was actually 100% undeniable, I'd pretty clearly agree with it. What I don't do, however, is follow the herd mentality. If I did, I'd be utterly insane from trying to keep up with what's unhealthy for me today, and why it will actually be the miracle cure tomorrow. In other words, until the risks outweigh the benefits, I'll deal with it. I by no means meant to insult you, I was just saying that you were defending one side fairly fiercely. I don't know if fluoride in tap water is bad myself, there's a few factors arguing for it, but also some huge things arguing against it. Personally I'm just glad my country did decide to ban it, so I have nothing to potentially worry about. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On May 26 2012 06:23 solidbebe wrote: I by no means meant to insult you, I was just saying that you were defending one side fairly fiercely. I don't know if fluoride in tap water is bad myself, there's a few factors arguing for it, but also some huge things arguing against it. Personally I'm just glad my country did decide to ban it, so I have nothing to potentially worry about. probably shouldn't brush your teeth with common toothpastes either. | ||
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FryBender
United States290 Posts
On May 26 2012 03:18 Heh_ wrote: Actually, you can. Ever heard of ion exchangers? They're pretty common. Good point. But I was thinking of an actual physical filter that would prevent any amount of fluoride of getting to your water. I doubt there is a simple ion excange resing out there that would actually filter out the fluoride at the minuscule levels that it is added to our water. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 26 2012 06:23 solidbebe wrote: I by no means meant to insult you, I was just saying that you were defending one side fairly fiercely. I don't know if fluoride in tap water is bad myself, there's a few factors arguing for it, but also some huge things arguing against it. Personally I'm just glad my country did decide to ban it, so I have nothing to potentially worry about. Yes, relating pornography to chemicals in the water is clearly a staunch defense of a point in an argument. And as has been mentioned, avoid dental hygiene in general if you're worried about fluoride. If it REALLY came down to having to choose consciously, dying quickly of cancer vs a miserable life with dental issues, I'd take the shorter chunk of pain. And I say that having nearly died of an illness that can be terminal when unchecked, that can lead to cancer, not just tongue in cheek. | ||
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