On May 13 2012 19:24 dreamseller wrote: i have to admire the players for being so professional. it shows a lot of character on their part. i think we can all read between the lines though. it is very sloppy for a team to change their minds so quickly about their international focus after signing players.
To be fair though, despite the lack of professionality, they did release them from their contracts without any hassle. They had already invested in the players (salaries, contracts, PC for Scarlett and other expenses).
did they have any other choice? judging by the other controversies with this team money seems to be the issue here, so EC could not continue to support the 4 players in Korea, therefore they had to release them from their contracts.
On May 13 2012 19:46 Heouf wrote: Well desrow is never happy. That is how I see it. Just like that mexican dude. And Scarlett maybe went for an offer that was too good to be true. Or things just suddenly changed.
Is dRow supposed to be happy that his team offered a false promise? lol.
On May 13 2012 19:24 dreamseller wrote: i have to admire the players for being so professional. it shows a lot of character on their part. i think we can all read between the lines though. it is very sloppy for a team to change their minds so quickly about their international focus after signing players.
To be fair though, despite the lack of professionality, they did release them from their contracts without any hassle. They had already invested in the players (salaries, contracts, PC for Scarlett and other expenses).
did they have any other choice? judging by the other controversies with this team money seems to be the issue here, so EC could not continue to support the 4 players in Korea, therefore they had to release them from their contracts.
There was no contracts but we made sure eclypsia was okay on how we parted ways before doing our tweets.
On May 13 2012 19:24 dreamseller wrote: i have to admire the players for being so professional. it shows a lot of character on their part. i think we can all read between the lines though. it is very sloppy for a team to change their minds so quickly about their international focus after signing players.
To be fair though, despite the lack of professionality, they did release them from their contracts without any hassle. They had already invested in the players (salaries, contracts, PC for Scarlett and other expenses).
did they have any other choice? judging by the other controversies with this team money seems to be the issue here, so EC could not continue to support the 4 players in Korea, therefore they had to release them from their contracts.
There was no contracts but we made sure eclypsia was okay on how we parted ways before doing our tweets.
I don't want to sound offending, but isn't it very fishy to be on a team for a month without a contract? I'm sure they paid you but in case they didn't, you don't have a claim to that money right?
On May 13 2012 19:24 dreamseller wrote: i have to admire the players for being so professional. it shows a lot of character on their part. i think we can all read between the lines though. it is very sloppy for a team to change their minds so quickly about their international focus after signing players.
To be fair though, despite the lack of professionality, they did release them from their contracts without any hassle. They had already invested in the players (salaries, contracts, PC for Scarlett and other expenses).
did they have any other choice? judging by the other controversies with this team money seems to be the issue here, so EC could not continue to support the 4 players in Korea, therefore they had to release them from their contracts.
There was no contracts but we made sure eclypsia was okay on how we parted ways before doing our tweets.
I don't want to sound offending, but isn't it very fishy to be on a team for a month without a contract? I'm sure they paid you but in case they didn't, you don't have a claim to that money right?
Doesn't make too much of a difference in the current state E-Sports IMO. Even if you have a contract, you're probably not going to sue your team when they stop paying you but just leave it instead. Nobody wants to file a lawsuit since it might backfire easily and you're probably not going to see any money even if you win.
I just hope other teams will learn some from this. You have to have a clear view on what you are going to be focusing on. In this case if it's the European scene or Korean. In this case it's just so poor management to sign players that clearly states they want to go to Korea and then do a 180 turn and instead focusing on the European scene after signing these players.
I can only speek for myself, but in my eyes Eclypsia has done a really poor impression in the E-sport scene. First with their intro which in my opinion is just the weirdest and a poor aprils joke to get some PR. And with their Dota2 team, they didn't seem happy at all with how they where treated. I actually thought they where doing the same PR stunt as when they appeared, but apperently not. And now they end up losing a lot of good players because they didn't have a clear view at what they really wanted to do in their future. But yeah. Good luck to all parties I guess. Hopelly the players find a new team fast which can hold what they promise.
On May 13 2012 19:46 Heouf wrote: Well desrow is never happy. That is how I see it. Just like that mexican dude. And Scarlett maybe went for an offer that was too good to be true. Or things just suddenly changed.
Is dRow supposed to be happy that his team offered a false promise? lol.
don't you know? Everyone mindlessly shits on dRow for any and all reasons, logical or not.
On May 13 2012 18:22 desRow wrote: Hope this video clarifies some of the things that was said int his thread ^^
i feel like this should be edited into the original post so people don't have to dig to page 18 to find it. very insightful on the situation. thanks for posting it desRow