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Artist, SLoG, desRow, Scarlett leave Eclypsia - Page 20

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hkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia354 Posts
May 13 2012 23:30 GMT
#381
On May 14 2012 08:02 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 07:58 hkf wrote:
I sense its a case of
"waaah send us to korea"
"lol you're gonna get roflstomped by b-teamers"
"fk u we quit"

pretty sure b-teamers will soon fade out as the insurgence of bw pros begin also.


i sense a case of didnt read anything

kay? because that's like, totally not an opinion or anything.
Bedrock
Profile Joined October 2010
United States395 Posts
May 13 2012 23:38 GMT
#382
That just really sucks, considering EC continues to change their vision. It just sounds like they need to straighten up and find out what they want to get out of from their teams.

Good luck des/artist/slog/scarlett..
eSports or die tryin'
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
May 13 2012 23:48 GMT
#383
On May 14 2012 08:30 hkf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 08:02 turdburgler wrote:
On May 14 2012 07:58 hkf wrote:
I sense its a case of
"waaah send us to korea"
"lol you're gonna get roflstomped by b-teamers"
"fk u we quit"

pretty sure b-teamers will soon fade out as the insurgence of bw pros begin also.


i sense a case of didnt read anything

kay? because that's like, totally not an opinion or anything.


It sounds like they signed a bunch of players while saying that they are going to open a teamhouse in Korea, then kept flipping back and forth for a while until deciding "oh nvm, we're just gonna 'focus' on Europe instead". That, and like Desrow said, the players were not comfortable with EC's facepalming PR disasters.
srikanth94
Profile Joined January 2011
India16 Posts
May 14 2012 00:15 GMT
#384
poor desrow cant find a home.....
if ur not google dont act like you know everything
hkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia354 Posts
May 14 2012 00:24 GMT
#385
On May 14 2012 08:48 Sein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 08:30 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:02 turdburgler wrote:
On May 14 2012 07:58 hkf wrote:
I sense its a case of
"waaah send us to korea"
"lol you're gonna get roflstomped by b-teamers"
"fk u we quit"

pretty sure b-teamers will soon fade out as the insurgence of bw pros begin also.


i sense a case of didnt read anything

kay? because that's like, totally not an opinion or anything.


It sounds like they signed a bunch of players while saying that they are going to open a teamhouse in Korea, then kept flipping back and forth for a while until deciding "oh nvm, we're just gonna 'focus' on Europe instead". That, and like Desrow said, the players were not comfortable with EC's facepalming PR disasters.

Not sure if serious...
Unless their contracts say specifically "in x months, we will open a house in Korea and you will live there for y term and participate/train for z tournaments", it's a really dick move to quit because they were "promised" a team house.
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
May 14 2012 00:42 GMT
#386
On May 14 2012 09:24 hkf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 08:48 Sein wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:30 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:02 turdburgler wrote:
On May 14 2012 07:58 hkf wrote:
I sense its a case of
"waaah send us to korea"
"lol you're gonna get roflstomped by b-teamers"
"fk u we quit"

pretty sure b-teamers will soon fade out as the insurgence of bw pros begin also.


i sense a case of didnt read anything

kay? because that's like, totally not an opinion or anything.


It sounds like they signed a bunch of players while saying that they are going to open a teamhouse in Korea, then kept flipping back and forth for a while until deciding "oh nvm, we're just gonna 'focus' on Europe instead". That, and like Desrow said, the players were not comfortable with EC's facepalming PR disasters.

Not sure if serious...
Unless their contracts say specifically "in x months, we will open a house in Korea and you will live there for y term and participate/train for z tournaments", it's a really dick move to quit because they were "promised" a team house.


Why is that a dick move? It seems to me like the players are only looking out for their own best interests. Its not like thye are defaming the team or anything.
dylan522p
Profile Joined May 2012
United States38 Posts
May 14 2012 00:45 GMT
#387
On May 14 2012 09:42 TestSubject893 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 09:24 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:48 Sein wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:30 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:02 turdburgler wrote:
On May 14 2012 07:58 hkf wrote:
I sense its a case of
"waaah send us to korea"
"lol you're gonna get roflstomped by b-teamers"
"fk u we quit"

pretty sure b-teamers will soon fade out as the insurgence of bw pros begin also.


i sense a case of didnt read anything

kay? because that's like, totally not an opinion or anything.


It sounds like they signed a bunch of players while saying that they are going to open a teamhouse in Korea, then kept flipping back and forth for a while until deciding "oh nvm, we're just gonna 'focus' on Europe instead". That, and like Desrow said, the players were not comfortable with EC's facepalming PR disasters.

Not sure if serious...
Unless their contracts say specifically "in x months, we will open a house in Korea and you will live there for y term and participate/train for z tournaments", it's a really dick move to quit because they were "promised" a team house.


Why is that a dick move? It seems to me like the players are only looking out for their own best interests. Its not like thye are defaming the team or anything.

+ Desrow has to leave Korea now he was depending on the team house being made.
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hkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia354 Posts
May 14 2012 00:58 GMT
#388
On May 14 2012 09:42 TestSubject893 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 09:24 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:48 Sein wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:30 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:02 turdburgler wrote:
On May 14 2012 07:58 hkf wrote:
I sense its a case of
"waaah send us to korea"
"lol you're gonna get roflstomped by b-teamers"
"fk u we quit"

pretty sure b-teamers will soon fade out as the insurgence of bw pros begin also.


i sense a case of didnt read anything

kay? because that's like, totally not an opinion or anything.


It sounds like they signed a bunch of players while saying that they are going to open a teamhouse in Korea, then kept flipping back and forth for a while until deciding "oh nvm, we're just gonna 'focus' on Europe instead". That, and like Desrow said, the players were not comfortable with EC's facepalming PR disasters.

Not sure if serious...
Unless their contracts say specifically "in x months, we will open a house in Korea and you will live there for y term and participate/train for z tournaments", it's a really dick move to quit because they were "promised" a team house.


Why is that a dick move? It seems to me like the players are only looking out for their own best interests. Its not like thye are defaming the team or anything.


Lets say you get a job

Then you're not happy with the job for x reason, where x is not written anywhere specifically in your contract

Leaving the job because of something that isn't stipulated in a contractual agreement = not a good thing.

If you translate that to real world terms it would be akin to a jobhopper.
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
May 14 2012 01:34 GMT
#389
On May 14 2012 09:58 hkf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 09:42 TestSubject893 wrote:
On May 14 2012 09:24 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:48 Sein wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:30 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:02 turdburgler wrote:
On May 14 2012 07:58 hkf wrote:
I sense its a case of
"waaah send us to korea"
"lol you're gonna get roflstomped by b-teamers"
"fk u we quit"

pretty sure b-teamers will soon fade out as the insurgence of bw pros begin also.


i sense a case of didnt read anything

kay? because that's like, totally not an opinion or anything.


It sounds like they signed a bunch of players while saying that they are going to open a teamhouse in Korea, then kept flipping back and forth for a while until deciding "oh nvm, we're just gonna 'focus' on Europe instead". That, and like Desrow said, the players were not comfortable with EC's facepalming PR disasters.

Not sure if serious...
Unless their contracts say specifically "in x months, we will open a house in Korea and you will live there for y term and participate/train for z tournaments", it's a really dick move to quit because they were "promised" a team house.


Why is that a dick move? It seems to me like the players are only looking out for their own best interests. Its not like thye are defaming the team or anything.


Lets say you get a job

Then you're not happy with the job for x reason, where x is not written anywhere specifically in your contract

Leaving the job because of something that isn't stipulated in a contractual agreement = not a good thing.

If you translate that to real world terms it would be akin to a jobhopper.


Well I guess this is where the root of our differing opinions is. I think the situation you describe is also ok. The company lying to you about their intentions to try and get you to take a job seems to me like a worse thing than leaving because it doesn't come through. You have to understand that starcraft players are skilled workers, and have leverage with their employer. Employers are in competition for the limited pool of employees, and if the contracts allow them to opt out, its up to the employers to keep their employees happy.
Font
Profile Joined February 2012
170 Posts
May 14 2012 01:37 GMT
#390
On May 14 2012 09:58 hkf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 09:42 TestSubject893 wrote:
On May 14 2012 09:24 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:48 Sein wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:30 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:02 turdburgler wrote:
On May 14 2012 07:58 hkf wrote:
I sense its a case of
"waaah send us to korea"
"lol you're gonna get roflstomped by b-teamers"
"fk u we quit"

pretty sure b-teamers will soon fade out as the insurgence of bw pros begin also.


i sense a case of didnt read anything

kay? because that's like, totally not an opinion or anything.


It sounds like they signed a bunch of players while saying that they are going to open a teamhouse in Korea, then kept flipping back and forth for a while until deciding "oh nvm, we're just gonna 'focus' on Europe instead". That, and like Desrow said, the players were not comfortable with EC's facepalming PR disasters.

Not sure if serious...
Unless their contracts say specifically "in x months, we will open a house in Korea and you will live there for y term and participate/train for z tournaments", it's a really dick move to quit because they were "promised" a team house.


Why is that a dick move? It seems to me like the players are only looking out for their own best interests. Its not like thye are defaming the team or anything.


Lets say you get a job

Then you're not happy with the job for x reason, where x is not written anywhere specifically in your contract

Leaving the job because of something that isn't stipulated in a contractual agreement = not a good thing.

If you translate that to real world terms it would be akin to a jobhopper.


if you translate your vision of the real world to reality, it makes new.

I am sorry to be blunt but what you have just said is one of the most ridiculous thing that has been typed in a video game forum.

Why do you think scarlett signed to them? Korea teamhouse, once EC said that it isnt happening, she and all the other players(as said by desrow this was a group decision) decided and had all the rights to leave.

Chytilova
Profile Joined December 2011
United States790 Posts
May 14 2012 01:40 GMT
#391
On May 14 2012 09:58 hkf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 09:42 TestSubject893 wrote:
On May 14 2012 09:24 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:48 Sein wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:30 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:02 turdburgler wrote:
On May 14 2012 07:58 hkf wrote:
I sense its a case of
"waaah send us to korea"
"lol you're gonna get roflstomped by b-teamers"
"fk u we quit"

pretty sure b-teamers will soon fade out as the insurgence of bw pros begin also.


i sense a case of didnt read anything

kay? because that's like, totally not an opinion or anything.


It sounds like they signed a bunch of players while saying that they are going to open a teamhouse in Korea, then kept flipping back and forth for a while until deciding "oh nvm, we're just gonna 'focus' on Europe instead". That, and like Desrow said, the players were not comfortable with EC's facepalming PR disasters.

Not sure if serious...
Unless their contracts say specifically "in x months, we will open a house in Korea and you will live there for y term and participate/train for z tournaments", it's a really dick move to quit because they were "promised" a team house.


Why is that a dick move? It seems to me like the players are only looking out for their own best interests. Its not like thye are defaming the team or anything.


Lets say you get a job

Then you're not happy with the job for x reason, where x is not written anywhere specifically in your contract

Leaving the job because of something that isn't stipulated in a contractual agreement = not a good thing.

If you translate that to real world terms it would be akin to a jobhopper.


That isn't an absolute.

Things come up. Sometimes you have to leave because of something not in a contractual agreement. People have different expectations and sometimes things just don't work out. It happens in the real world and neither side are dicks for it.
schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
May 14 2012 01:50 GMT
#392
On May 14 2012 09:58 hkf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 09:42 TestSubject893 wrote:
On May 14 2012 09:24 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:48 Sein wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:30 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:02 turdburgler wrote:
On May 14 2012 07:58 hkf wrote:
I sense its a case of
"waaah send us to korea"
"lol you're gonna get roflstomped by b-teamers"
"fk u we quit"

pretty sure b-teamers will soon fade out as the insurgence of bw pros begin also.


i sense a case of didnt read anything

kay? because that's like, totally not an opinion or anything.


It sounds like they signed a bunch of players while saying that they are going to open a teamhouse in Korea, then kept flipping back and forth for a while until deciding "oh nvm, we're just gonna 'focus' on Europe instead". That, and like Desrow said, the players were not comfortable with EC's facepalming PR disasters.

Not sure if serious...
Unless their contracts say specifically "in x months, we will open a house in Korea and you will live there for y term and participate/train for z tournaments", it's a really dick move to quit because they were "promised" a team house.


Why is that a dick move? It seems to me like the players are only looking out for their own best interests. Its not like thye are defaming the team or anything.


Lets say you get a job

Then you're not happy with the job for x reason, where x is not written anywhere specifically in your contract

Leaving the job because of something that isn't stipulated in a contractual agreement = not a good thing.

If you translate that to real world terms it would be akin to a jobhopper.


There is no contract. (at least for dRow)

Other than that, It seems a really dick move to promise something and don't have a good excuse for not fulfilling it. Plus all the embarassment with the PR, doesn't sound like a company I would like to work for!
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
May 14 2012 01:58 GMT
#393
so, eclypsia is the enron of e-sports?
Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
May 14 2012 02:04 GMT
#394
On May 14 2012 09:58 hkf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 09:42 TestSubject893 wrote:
On May 14 2012 09:24 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:48 Sein wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:30 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:02 turdburgler wrote:
On May 14 2012 07:58 hkf wrote:
I sense its a case of
"waaah send us to korea"
"lol you're gonna get roflstomped by b-teamers"
"fk u we quit"

pretty sure b-teamers will soon fade out as the insurgence of bw pros begin also.


i sense a case of didnt read anything

kay? because that's like, totally not an opinion or anything.


It sounds like they signed a bunch of players while saying that they are going to open a teamhouse in Korea, then kept flipping back and forth for a while until deciding "oh nvm, we're just gonna 'focus' on Europe instead". That, and like Desrow said, the players were not comfortable with EC's facepalming PR disasters.

Not sure if serious...
Unless their contracts say specifically "in x months, we will open a house in Korea and you will live there for y term and participate/train for z tournaments", it's a really dick move to quit because they were "promised" a team house.


Why is that a dick move? It seems to me like the players are only looking out for their own best interests. Its not like thye are defaming the team or anything.


Lets say you get a job

Then you're not happy with the job for x reason, where x is not written anywhere specifically in your contract

Leaving the job because of something that isn't stipulated in a contractual agreement = not a good thing.

If you translate that to real world terms it would be akin to a jobhopper.


Honestly, if you translate this situation into "real world terms" (where are we, the Matrix?), it's akin to Eclypsia being a terrible employer. The players are at no fault here.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
May 14 2012 02:35 GMT
#395
On May 14 2012 09:58 hkf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 09:42 TestSubject893 wrote:
On May 14 2012 09:24 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:48 Sein wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:30 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:02 turdburgler wrote:
On May 14 2012 07:58 hkf wrote:
I sense its a case of
"waaah send us to korea"
"lol you're gonna get roflstomped by b-teamers"
"fk u we quit"

pretty sure b-teamers will soon fade out as the insurgence of bw pros begin also.


i sense a case of didnt read anything

kay? because that's like, totally not an opinion or anything.


It sounds like they signed a bunch of players while saying that they are going to open a teamhouse in Korea, then kept flipping back and forth for a while until deciding "oh nvm, we're just gonna 'focus' on Europe instead". That, and like Desrow said, the players were not comfortable with EC's facepalming PR disasters.

Not sure if serious...
Unless their contracts say specifically "in x months, we will open a house in Korea and you will live there for y term and participate/train for z tournaments", it's a really dick move to quit because they were "promised" a team house.


Why is that a dick move? It seems to me like the players are only looking out for their own best interests. Its not like thye are defaming the team or anything.


Lets say you get a job

Then you're not happy with the job for x reason, where x is not written anywhere specifically in your contract

Leaving the job because of something that isn't stipulated in a contractual agreement = not a good thing.

If you translate that to real world terms it would be akin to a jobhopper.

You don't have much experience with the working world, do you? The vast, vast majority of people who quit their jobs do it because they are unhappy with their current employer. If someone violates your signed contract, you sue them.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
hkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia354 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 03:40:22
May 14 2012 03:38 GMT
#396
On May 14 2012 11:35 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 09:58 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 09:42 TestSubject893 wrote:
On May 14 2012 09:24 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:48 Sein wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:30 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:02 turdburgler wrote:
On May 14 2012 07:58 hkf wrote:
I sense its a case of
"waaah send us to korea"
"lol you're gonna get roflstomped by b-teamers"
"fk u we quit"

pretty sure b-teamers will soon fade out as the insurgence of bw pros begin also.


i sense a case of didnt read anything

kay? because that's like, totally not an opinion or anything.


It sounds like they signed a bunch of players while saying that they are going to open a teamhouse in Korea, then kept flipping back and forth for a while until deciding "oh nvm, we're just gonna 'focus' on Europe instead". That, and like Desrow said, the players were not comfortable with EC's facepalming PR disasters.

Not sure if serious...
Unless their contracts say specifically "in x months, we will open a house in Korea and you will live there for y term and participate/train for z tournaments", it's a really dick move to quit because they were "promised" a team house.


Why is that a dick move? It seems to me like the players are only looking out for their own best interests. Its not like thye are defaming the team or anything.


Lets say you get a job

Then you're not happy with the job for x reason, where x is not written anywhere specifically in your contract

Leaving the job because of something that isn't stipulated in a contractual agreement = not a good thing.

If you translate that to real world terms it would be akin to a jobhopper.

You don't have much experience with the working world, do you? The vast, vast majority of people who quit their jobs do it because they are unhappy with their current employer. If someone violates your signed contract, you sue them.


Spoken like a true litigilist.

Pretty sure I've had more experience working than you, but it's ok. Words like company loyalty and personal ownership/responsbility towards your work tends to get lost under the swath of 'amg lawsuet inc'

If one joins a team on the expectation that a teamhouse would open somewhere down the road it's COMMON SENSE that one does NOT join said team until there is concrete proof.
Happygreek
Profile Joined April 2012
United States220 Posts
May 14 2012 04:10 GMT
#397
On May 14 2012 07:58 hkf wrote:

Pretty sure I've had more experience working than you, but it's ok. Words like company loyalty and personal ownership/responsbility towards your work tends to get lost under the swath of 'amg lawsuet inc'


Company loyalty and responsibility to a business relationship is not more important than personal happiness. You are in a mutually beneficial arrangement. If it stops being beneficial for the employer, they'll end the relationship fast. You are no more obligated than they are to the agreement.
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
May 14 2012 04:21 GMT
#398
On May 14 2012 12:38 hkf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 11:35 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On May 14 2012 09:58 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 09:42 TestSubject893 wrote:
On May 14 2012 09:24 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:48 Sein wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:30 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:02 turdburgler wrote:
On May 14 2012 07:58 hkf wrote:
I sense its a case of
"waaah send us to korea"
"lol you're gonna get roflstomped by b-teamers"
"fk u we quit"

pretty sure b-teamers will soon fade out as the insurgence of bw pros begin also.


i sense a case of didnt read anything

kay? because that's like, totally not an opinion or anything.


It sounds like they signed a bunch of players while saying that they are going to open a teamhouse in Korea, then kept flipping back and forth for a while until deciding "oh nvm, we're just gonna 'focus' on Europe instead". That, and like Desrow said, the players were not comfortable with EC's facepalming PR disasters.

Not sure if serious...
Unless their contracts say specifically "in x months, we will open a house in Korea and you will live there for y term and participate/train for z tournaments", it's a really dick move to quit because they were "promised" a team house.


Why is that a dick move? It seems to me like the players are only looking out for their own best interests. Its not like thye are defaming the team or anything.


Lets say you get a job

Then you're not happy with the job for x reason, where x is not written anywhere specifically in your contract

Leaving the job because of something that isn't stipulated in a contractual agreement = not a good thing.

If you translate that to real world terms it would be akin to a jobhopper.

You don't have much experience with the working world, do you? The vast, vast majority of people who quit their jobs do it because they are unhappy with their current employer. If someone violates your signed contract, you sue them.


Spoken like a true litigilist.

Pretty sure I've had more experience working than you, but it's ok. Words like company loyalty and personal ownership/responsbility towards your work tends to get lost under the swath of 'amg lawsuet inc'

If one joins a team on the expectation that a teamhouse would open somewhere down the road it's COMMON SENSE that one does NOT join said team until there is concrete proof.


Just like its COMMON SENSE that if you don't want your players to leave you sign contracts with them that say they can't for a certain period of time?

I'm starting to have a hard time believing these are your sincere opinions. And from what I can tell "litigilist" isn't even a word. Perhaps me and the others discussing this have given you the benefit of the doubt for too long.
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Profile Joined April 2011
United States57 Posts
May 14 2012 08:48 GMT
#399
On May 14 2012 09:58 hkf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 09:42 TestSubject893 wrote:
On May 14 2012 09:24 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:48 Sein wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:30 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:02 turdburgler wrote:
On May 14 2012 07:58 hkf wrote:
I sense its a case of
"waaah send us to korea"
"lol you're gonna get roflstomped by b-teamers"
"fk u we quit"

pretty sure b-teamers will soon fade out as the insurgence of bw pros begin also.


i sense a case of didnt read anything

kay? because that's like, totally not an opinion or anything.


It sounds like they signed a bunch of players while saying that they are going to open a teamhouse in Korea, then kept flipping back and forth for a while until deciding "oh nvm, we're just gonna 'focus' on Europe instead". That, and like Desrow said, the players were not comfortable with EC's facepalming PR disasters.

Not sure if serious...
Unless their contracts say specifically "in x months, we will open a house in Korea and you will live there for y term and participate/train for z tournaments", it's a really dick move to quit because they were "promised" a team house.


Why is that a dick move? It seems to me like the players are only looking out for their own best interests. Its not like thye are defaming the team or anything.


Lets say you get a job

Then you're not happy with the job for x reason, where x is not written anywhere specifically in your contract

Leaving the job because of something that isn't stipulated in a contractual agreement = not a good thing.

If you translate that to real world terms it would be akin to a jobhopper.


actually it's a very good thing. Lets say for example a job asks you to work for them over their competitor and they promise you great things, whether written, verbal or implied promises. If your employer reneges on those promises, I don't think you'd be a very happy camper. When it's not something as important as having a job or not having a job. It's a matter of being on a team with empty promises or having no team for the time being. These players made a very wise decision and clearly were communicating the same thoughts and all on the same page about how they felt they were being treated.
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United States732 Posts
May 14 2012 16:33 GMT
#400
Hope the players find new teams soon!
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