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The gender discussion ends on page 16.
The starcraft discussion resumes on page 16.

Thank you.
Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
May 14 2012 16:33 GMT
#401
best of luck to desrow. i wish him the best.
TheGiftedApe
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1243 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 16:45:40
May 14 2012 16:45 GMT
#402
good luck too all the players finding new teams! You guys will have no problem though all good players.
xO-Gaming.com || [xO]TheGiftedApe.364 || xO-Gaming Manager.
31415926535
Profile Joined May 2012
Switzerland276 Posts
May 14 2012 18:06 GMT
#403
On May 14 2012 09:58 hkf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 09:42 TestSubject893 wrote:
On May 14 2012 09:24 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:48 Sein wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:30 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:02 turdburgler wrote:
On May 14 2012 07:58 hkf wrote:
I sense its a case of
"waaah send us to korea"
"lol you're gonna get roflstomped by b-teamers"
"fk u we quit"

pretty sure b-teamers will soon fade out as the insurgence of bw pros begin also.


i sense a case of didnt read anything

kay? because that's like, totally not an opinion or anything.


It sounds like they signed a bunch of players while saying that they are going to open a teamhouse in Korea, then kept flipping back and forth for a while until deciding "oh nvm, we're just gonna 'focus' on Europe instead". That, and like Desrow said, the players were not comfortable with EC's facepalming PR disasters.

Not sure if serious...
Unless their contracts say specifically "in x months, we will open a house in Korea and you will live there for y term and participate/train for z tournaments", it's a really dick move to quit because they were "promised" a team house.


Why is that a dick move? It seems to me like the players are only looking out for their own best interests. Its not like thye are defaming the team or anything.


Lets say you get a job

Then you're not happy with the job for x reason, where x is not written anywhere specifically in your contract

Leaving the job because of something that isn't stipulated in a contractual agreement = not a good thing.

If you translate that to real world terms it would be akin to a jobhopper.

Well, if you're unhappy about something at your job, you first go talk with your boss or whoever is in charge (that's probably what the EC members did). If nothing happens after some time, you ask again and if nothing changes, you just leave it if you find something better somewhere else.

Now, if you do that 10 times in one year, there's probably something wrong with you instead of the employers, but as far as I know, that's not the case for the leaving EC members.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
May 14 2012 20:13 GMT
#404
Mouz.Scarlett and Mouz.DesRow.

One can dream.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
hakke
Profile Joined July 2011
9 Posts
May 14 2012 21:44 GMT
#405
I hope Desrow will find a new team ASAP!
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 14 2012 21:47 GMT
#406
On May 15 2012 05:13 Crownlol wrote:
Mouz.Scarlett and Mouz.DesRow.

One can dream.


TL'Scarlett or SlayerS_Scarlett or ttScarlett.
kiss kiss fall in love
fraktoasters
Profile Joined January 2011
United States617 Posts
May 14 2012 21:50 GMT
#407
On May 14 2012 12:38 hkf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 11:35 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On May 14 2012 09:58 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 09:42 TestSubject893 wrote:
On May 14 2012 09:24 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:48 Sein wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:30 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:02 turdburgler wrote:
On May 14 2012 07:58 hkf wrote:
I sense its a case of
"waaah send us to korea"
"lol you're gonna get roflstomped by b-teamers"
"fk u we quit"

pretty sure b-teamers will soon fade out as the insurgence of bw pros begin also.


i sense a case of didnt read anything

kay? because that's like, totally not an opinion or anything.


It sounds like they signed a bunch of players while saying that they are going to open a teamhouse in Korea, then kept flipping back and forth for a while until deciding "oh nvm, we're just gonna 'focus' on Europe instead". That, and like Desrow said, the players were not comfortable with EC's facepalming PR disasters.

Not sure if serious...
Unless their contracts say specifically "in x months, we will open a house in Korea and you will live there for y term and participate/train for z tournaments", it's a really dick move to quit because they were "promised" a team house.


Why is that a dick move? It seems to me like the players are only looking out for their own best interests. Its not like thye are defaming the team or anything.


Lets say you get a job

Then you're not happy with the job for x reason, where x is not written anywhere specifically in your contract

Leaving the job because of something that isn't stipulated in a contractual agreement = not a good thing.

If you translate that to real world terms it would be akin to a jobhopper.

You don't have much experience with the working world, do you? The vast, vast majority of people who quit their jobs do it because they are unhappy with their current employer. If someone violates your signed contract, you sue them.


Spoken like a true litigilist.

Pretty sure I've had more experience working than you, but it's ok. Words like company loyalty and personal ownership/responsbility towards your work tends to get lost under the swath of 'amg lawsuet inc'

If one joins a team on the expectation that a teamhouse would open somewhere down the road it's COMMON SENSE that one does NOT join said team until there is concrete proof.


Is this how it is in Australia. In American you can leave a job for any reason (and an employer can fire you for any reason). I bet the majority of the time the only explanation a worker gives to their employers over here is that they want to work somewhere else.
OpTicalRH
Profile Joined June 2011
147 Posts
May 14 2012 21:53 GMT
#408
Maybe ScarlettLight?
She should have little to no problem finding a team.

Desrow should form his own team.
I see hardly any team that will pick him up.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
May 14 2012 22:06 GMT
#409
On May 14 2012 12:38 hkf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 11:35 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On May 14 2012 09:58 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 09:42 TestSubject893 wrote:
On May 14 2012 09:24 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:48 Sein wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:30 hkf wrote:
On May 14 2012 08:02 turdburgler wrote:
On May 14 2012 07:58 hkf wrote:
I sense its a case of
"waaah send us to korea"
"lol you're gonna get roflstomped by b-teamers"
"fk u we quit"

pretty sure b-teamers will soon fade out as the insurgence of bw pros begin also.


i sense a case of didnt read anything

kay? because that's like, totally not an opinion or anything.


It sounds like they signed a bunch of players while saying that they are going to open a teamhouse in Korea, then kept flipping back and forth for a while until deciding "oh nvm, we're just gonna 'focus' on Europe instead". That, and like Desrow said, the players were not comfortable with EC's facepalming PR disasters.

Not sure if serious...
Unless their contracts say specifically "in x months, we will open a house in Korea and you will live there for y term and participate/train for z tournaments", it's a really dick move to quit because they were "promised" a team house.


Why is that a dick move? It seems to me like the players are only looking out for their own best interests. Its not like thye are defaming the team or anything.


Lets say you get a job

Then you're not happy with the job for x reason, where x is not written anywhere specifically in your contract

Leaving the job because of something that isn't stipulated in a contractual agreement = not a good thing.

If you translate that to real world terms it would be akin to a jobhopper.

You don't have much experience with the working world, do you? The vast, vast majority of people who quit their jobs do it because they are unhappy with their current employer. If someone violates your signed contract, you sue them.


Spoken like a true litigilist.

Pretty sure I've had more experience working than you, but it's ok. Words like company loyalty and personal ownership/responsbility towards your work tends to get lost under the swath of 'amg lawsuet inc'

If one joins a team on the expectation that a teamhouse would open somewhere down the road it's COMMON SENSE that one does NOT join said team until there is concrete proof.

A contract is a legal obligation. If a company violates that contract, they have broken a legal agreement with you, and a lawsuit is your means of receiving what you are entitled to, or something of equivalence.

If a company hired you under false pretenses, it's COMMON SENSE that the company is NOT one you should work for.

Company loyalty has to be earned.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
May 14 2012 23:12 GMT
#410
Poor Artist.... dude has had a rough run with ReIGN disbanding and now this team. Hope he finds a better home soon, legitimately good player there.
Sacrilege
Profile Joined December 2011
United States199 Posts
May 14 2012 23:36 GMT
#411
Really hope to see Desrow find a team and continue his pro-gaming career. He has a lot of potential and I love watching his stream!

Hope to see Scarlett find a team as well, so much potential that I do not want to see go to waste. Best of luck to both!
Imperative Gaming Owner | Grandmaster Zerg | https://twitter.com/SacrilegeSC2 | https://www.twitch.tv/shadowbites
schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
May 15 2012 07:03 GMT
#412
On May 15 2012 05:13 Crownlol wrote:
Mouz.Scarlett and Mouz.DesRow.

One can dream.


Unfortunately mouz is really focused on Europe afaik, so hiring two Canadians in Korea wouldn't make much sense to them.
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 07:11:04
May 15 2012 07:09 GMT
#413
Scarlett wrote in her fan club she is already in talks with 2 teams.
On May 14 2012 05:07 Scarlett` wrote:
Don't worry, need no fundraiser ^^ ... Talking to 2 bigger / more established teams than EC right now who should both be able to send me

Also, about stream ~ fastest internet I can get where I live now is 800 kbps upload (not enough to stream properly). I will when I'm in a team house or gom house though >< sorry

*send her to MLG and she's talking about fundraiser because there was a talk in fan club about raising money to send her to MLG in case she can't find a team in time.
wwww
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
May 15 2012 12:44 GMT
#414
On May 15 2012 05:13 Crownlol wrote:
Mouz.Scarlett and Mouz.DesRow.

One can dream.


problem is that its more an european team.

also as much i love them all, desrow dont fit the mouz skillgap
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
jdsowa
Profile Joined March 2011
405 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 13:03:05
May 15 2012 13:02 GMT
#415
You mean a couple of Playhem wins per month can't support the living expenses of 5 individuals?
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
May 16 2012 01:03 GMT
#416
Woww it almost seems like a revolt having some decent-big names leaving the team
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