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The gender discussion ends on page 16.
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Thank you.
dreamseller
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Australia914 Posts
May 13 2012 10:50 GMT
#361
On May 13 2012 19:31 mikkmagro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 19:24 dreamseller wrote:
i have to admire the players for being so professional. it shows a lot of character on their part. i think we can all read between the lines though. it is very sloppy for a team to change their minds so quickly about their international focus after signing players.

To be fair though, despite the lack of professionality, they did release them from their contracts without any hassle. They had already invested in the players (salaries, contracts, PC for Scarlett and other expenses).


did they have any other choice? judging by the other controversies with this team money seems to be the issue here, so EC could not continue to support the 4 players in Korea, therefore they had to release them from their contracts.
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ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
May 13 2012 10:54 GMT
#362
On May 13 2012 19:46 Heouf wrote:
Well desrow is never happy. That is how I see it. Just like that mexican dude. And Scarlett maybe went for an offer that was too good to be true. Or things just suddenly changed.


Is dRow supposed to be happy that his team offered a false promise? lol.
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
May 13 2012 11:09 GMT
#363
On May 13 2012 19:50 dreamseller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 19:31 mikkmagro wrote:
On May 13 2012 19:24 dreamseller wrote:
i have to admire the players for being so professional. it shows a lot of character on their part. i think we can all read between the lines though. it is very sloppy for a team to change their minds so quickly about their international focus after signing players.

To be fair though, despite the lack of professionality, they did release them from their contracts without any hassle. They had already invested in the players (salaries, contracts, PC for Scarlett and other expenses).


did they have any other choice? judging by the other controversies with this team money seems to be the issue here, so EC could not continue to support the 4 players in Korea, therefore they had to release them from their contracts.


There was no contracts but we made sure eclypsia was okay on how we parted ways before doing our tweets.
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
May 13 2012 11:16 GMT
#364
On May 13 2012 20:09 desRow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 19:50 dreamseller wrote:
On May 13 2012 19:31 mikkmagro wrote:
On May 13 2012 19:24 dreamseller wrote:
i have to admire the players for being so professional. it shows a lot of character on their part. i think we can all read between the lines though. it is very sloppy for a team to change their minds so quickly about their international focus after signing players.

To be fair though, despite the lack of professionality, they did release them from their contracts without any hassle. They had already invested in the players (salaries, contracts, PC for Scarlett and other expenses).


did they have any other choice? judging by the other controversies with this team money seems to be the issue here, so EC could not continue to support the 4 players in Korea, therefore they had to release them from their contracts.


There was no contracts but we made sure eclypsia was okay on how we parted ways before doing our tweets.


I don't want to sound offending, but isn't it very fishy to be on a team for a month without a contract? I'm sure they paid you but in case they didn't, you don't have a claim to that money right?
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
nemonic
Profile Joined November 2011
132 Posts
May 13 2012 11:24 GMT
#365
On May 13 2012 20:16 schaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 20:09 desRow wrote:
On May 13 2012 19:50 dreamseller wrote:
On May 13 2012 19:31 mikkmagro wrote:
On May 13 2012 19:24 dreamseller wrote:
i have to admire the players for being so professional. it shows a lot of character on their part. i think we can all read between the lines though. it is very sloppy for a team to change their minds so quickly about their international focus after signing players.

To be fair though, despite the lack of professionality, they did release them from their contracts without any hassle. They had already invested in the players (salaries, contracts, PC for Scarlett and other expenses).


did they have any other choice? judging by the other controversies with this team money seems to be the issue here, so EC could not continue to support the 4 players in Korea, therefore they had to release them from their contracts.


There was no contracts but we made sure eclypsia was okay on how we parted ways before doing our tweets.


I don't want to sound offending, but isn't it very fishy to be on a team for a month without a contract? I'm sure they paid you but in case they didn't, you don't have a claim to that money right?


Doesn't make too much of a difference in the current state E-Sports IMO. Even if you have a contract, you're probably not going to sue your team when they stop paying you but just leave it instead. Nobody wants to file a lawsuit since it might backfire easily and you're probably not going to see any money even if you win.
NightySC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Norway168 Posts
May 13 2012 12:19 GMT
#366
I just hope other teams will learn some from this. You have to have a clear view on what you are going to be focusing on. In this case if it's the European scene or Korean. In this case it's just so poor management to sign players that clearly states they want to go to Korea and then do a 180 turn and instead focusing on the European scene after signing these players.

I can only speek for myself, but in my eyes Eclypsia has done a really poor impression in the E-sport scene. First with their intro which in my opinion is just the weirdest and a poor aprils joke to get some PR. And with their Dota2 team, they didn't seem happy at all with how they where treated. I actually thought they where doing the same PR stunt as when they appeared, but apperently not. And now they end up losing a lot of good players because they didn't have a clear view at what they really wanted to do in their future. But yeah. Good luck to all parties I guess. Hopelly the players find a new team fast which can hold what they promise.
eMow
Profile Joined March 2011
France9 Posts
May 13 2012 13:20 GMT
#367
I never liked those kind of teams.
...!
LowEloPlayer
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States205 Posts
May 13 2012 14:12 GMT
#368
Artist was in Eclypsia? Wtf is Artist doing in Eclypsia?
hmm... let's think about it
emberUK
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom6 Posts
May 13 2012 14:14 GMT
#369
On May 13 2012 23:12 LowEloPlayer wrote:
Artist was in Eclypsia? Wtf is Artist doing in Eclypsia?


He was left teamless when Reign disbanded.
Debian
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada95 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 16:13:16
May 13 2012 14:50 GMT
#370
*deleted* was posted in page before this.
fairymonger
Profile Joined June 2011
United States81 Posts
May 13 2012 15:55 GMT
#371
Hopefully des and Artist find new teams!
Never give up on your dreams. Without dreams man is nothing
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
May 13 2012 17:17 GMT
#372
poor artist, having trouble finding a good, permanent team...
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
May 13 2012 17:22 GMT
#373
On May 13 2012 19:54 ReaperX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 19:46 Heouf wrote:
Well desrow is never happy. That is how I see it. Just like that mexican dude. And Scarlett maybe went for an offer that was too good to be true. Or things just suddenly changed.


Is dRow supposed to be happy that his team offered a false promise? lol.


don't you know? Everyone mindlessly shits on dRow for any and all reasons, logical or not.
fenrysk
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States364 Posts
May 13 2012 17:51 GMT
#374
On May 13 2012 18:22 desRow wrote:
Hope this video clarifies some of the things that was said int his thread ^^


i feel like this should be edited into the original post so people don't have to dig to page 18 to find it. very insightful on the situation. thanks for posting it desRow
http://fenrysk-art.deviantart.com
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 13 2012 19:22 GMT
#375
On May 14 2012 02:17 JustPassingBy wrote:
poor artist, having trouble finding a good, permanent team...

sucks that he will miss out on another MLG Arena cause he of team trouble.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
testthewest
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany274 Posts
May 13 2012 20:17 GMT
#376
I wonder: Do teams only look at playing skill, or do they look for a good advertising face as well.
War is not about who is right, but who is left.
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
May 13 2012 20:57 GMT
#377
On May 14 2012 05:17 testthewest wrote:
I wonder: Do teams only look at playing skill, or do they look for a good advertising face as well.

Whatever gets them the most sponsors.
hkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia354 Posts
May 13 2012 22:58 GMT
#378
I sense its a case of
"waaah send us to korea"
"lol you're gonna get roflstomped by b-teamers"
"fk u we quit"

pretty sure b-teamers will soon fade out as the insurgence of bw pros begin also.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
May 13 2012 23:02 GMT
#379
On May 14 2012 07:58 hkf wrote:
I sense its a case of
"waaah send us to korea"
"lol you're gonna get roflstomped by b-teamers"
"fk u we quit"

pretty sure b-teamers will soon fade out as the insurgence of bw pros begin also.


i sense a case of didnt read anything
A-p-p-l-e-s
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada314 Posts
May 13 2012 23:07 GMT
#380
wow 4 people leave the team and scarlett basically just joined!
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