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Artist, SLoG, desRow, Scarlett leave Eclypsia - Page 18

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The gender discussion ends on page 16.
The starcraft discussion resumes on page 16.

Thank you.
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
May 13 2012 06:42 GMT
#341
On May 13 2012 15:39 mikkmagro wrote:

So far, we don't know if this is a result of false promises, or genuine change of direction of Eclypsia/the players.


You are part of Eclypsia now. Why did you choose to join the team ?

I talked to several teams after IPL. I chose Eclypsia because I really like the direction the team is heading in and felt very comfortable talking to the managers. Also they are giving me very good opportunities to help me pursue Starcraft 2 full-time, and even the chance to practice in Korea in the not too distant future.


(source)

sounds like a false promise to me.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
May 13 2012 06:51 GMT
#342
This is just...wow. I mean after what was released about the team's actions I guess this is sensible, but still...
OPL3SA2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States378 Posts
May 13 2012 06:54 GMT
#343
I bet the players wanted to improve personally (korea) but the team wanted to win small to medium prize purses (Europe/US). Desrow probably suffered the most from the falling out, because he personally stationed himself in korea prior to being on the team, but I doubt his vlog will reveal much.

My own feeling is that you can't recruit a bunch of randoms and viola - a team. You'll notice that whether you're talking about korean powerhouse teams or not, they usually consist of friends who play starcraft together, and by doing so, manage to elevate their games. Just look at ROOT example before the merger. And look, they still keep in touch after they get recruited by different teams.
Playoffs? You're talking about playoffs?
schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
May 13 2012 07:50 GMT
#344
On May 13 2012 10:57 MetalSlug wrote:
We were still on page 15 when i wrote this and nice backseat modding btw.
Trollbaits like the posts i responded to should get warnings for stiring up these gender discussion every god damn time.


Yeah you really can't be held responsible for driving a thread more off-topic ^^

anyways, Eclypsia seems to be a really shady organisation, to that also attributes that they accuse anyone of unprofessionalism whenever something goes wrong (though with that DotA action that might have been really the case). I'm sorry for the players who are without team now... But it think they have a good chance of finding a new team.

SloG has immense experience and speaks good english, Scarlett is a controversary but really popular figure (and it's really not her fault that they let her compete in female cups, grow up!).
Artist is a solid player with good online results
DesRow... yeah, DesRow... He's a very active community figure and did the risky move to Korea, we'll see how it all turns out.

but good luck to all those guys and girls!
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
May 13 2012 08:09 GMT
#345
On May 13 2012 12:34 iYiYi wrote:
Isn't eclypsia a french team?

First Virus
then eSahara
Now this

These french teams are always so fishy. Expanding at crazy rates, it's way to obvious they are fake. Yet players still sign.

It hurts to see all these players teamless when they shouldn't be. Hopefully they can still find somewhere to go.


French scene has always been like that. There are a LOT of wannabes in the french esport scene. People come and go really fast and it's definitely one of the best scene to follow if you like drama ^^
twitter@RickyMarou
enecateReAP
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom378 Posts
May 13 2012 08:32 GMT
#346
I don't have a goddamn clue why everyone is hating on Eclypsia because people ar eleaving the team - as they stated everyone got paid, they just had a differance in direction regarding korea.
You're all such stupid drama whores, it's like going out with a 12 year old girl reading these threads...there is no issue here...
"Stargate units imba" - oGsMC
Origine
Profile Joined January 2010
France167 Posts
May 13 2012 08:32 GMT
#347
On May 13 2012 17:09 Marou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 12:34 iYiYi wrote:
Isn't eclypsia a french team?

First Virus
then eSahara
Now this

These french teams are always so fishy. Expanding at crazy rates, it's way to obvious they are fake. Yet players still sign.

It hurts to see all these players teamless when they shouldn't be. Hopefully they can still find somewhere to go.


French scene has always been like that. There are a LOT of wannabes in the french esport scene. People come and go really fast and it's definitely one of the best scene to follow if you like drama ^^

If you want a local scene to grow, you need money. What is the money for? Support the players so that they can train and be better at the game, attend events, and overall, compete with the best. If you want to raise pro players you need money. Otherwise it only stops at amateur level and the scene goes stagnant. The only "legit" team in France (at least on sc2) is Millenium, long established team with sponsors and such. So yeah, you need money if you want to have a competitive team, even in France.
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corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
May 13 2012 08:48 GMT
#348
On May 13 2012 17:32 enecateReAP wrote:
I don't have a goddamn clue why everyone is hating on Eclypsia because people ar eleaving the team - as they stated everyone got paid, they just had a differance in direction regarding korea.
You're all such stupid drama whores, it's like going out with a 12 year old girl reading these threads...there is no issue here...


They told their players they'd send them to Korea and/or support them staying there when they signed. They then decided that they didn't want to bother with Korea, and pulled the rug out under three players who were already there and were no longer receiving support for staying there, and refused to send another (Scarlett) there despite promising when she signed with them that they would.

That is shitty and wrong and they deserve to get called out for it.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
enecateReAP
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom378 Posts
May 13 2012 08:51 GMT
#349
On May 13 2012 17:48 corpuscle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 17:32 enecateReAP wrote:
I don't have a goddamn clue why everyone is hating on Eclypsia because people ar eleaving the team - as they stated everyone got paid, they just had a differance in direction regarding korea.
You're all such stupid drama whores, it's like going out with a 12 year old girl reading these threads...there is no issue here...


They told their players they'd send them to Korea and/or support them staying there when they signed. They then decided that they didn't want to bother with Korea, and pulled the rug out under three players who were already there and were no longer receiving support for staying there, and refused to send another (Scarlett) there despite promising when she signed with them that they would.

That is shitty and wrong and they deserve to get called out for it.


And the players thus left, there is no harm done, Scarlett for example got her salery and a new computer, everything else she was promised and they moved on.
There is no need for this, none of the players are angry so why the hell are you?
Jesus.
"Stargate units imba" - oGsMC
Darkgelus
Profile Joined January 2012
Mexico28 Posts
May 13 2012 09:01 GMT
#350
Teams like those shouldnt exist on the e-sport scene =(
McBengt
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 09:04:45
May 13 2012 09:04 GMT
#351
On May 13 2012 13:38 corpuscle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 13:20 djSetz3R wrote:
That seems to be the fastest I've ever seen someone leave a team in any sport (Scarlett) that was crazy did she even play in an official tournament besides Iron Lady under EC?


IPL TAC3 qualifiers (she beat Kawaiirice and Avenge), Eclypsia Colosseum (2-0 against Phoenix), top 200 KOTH where she went 5-0 against qxc and some randoms before forfeiting because she was sleepy

You can argue that it isn't impressive but think of it this way: in what little we've seen, she hasn't dropped a set.


Are there any vods of that? From what I heard QXC had improved substantially in the last few months.
"My twelve year old will out-reason Bill Maher when it comes to understanding, you know, what, uh, how to logic work" - Rick Santorum
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 09:27:14
May 13 2012 09:22 GMT
#352
Hope this video clarifies some of the things that was said int his thread ^^
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
Philipd122
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 09:26:06
May 13 2012 09:24 GMT
#353
On May 13 2012 18:22 desRow wrote:
Hope this video clarifies some of the things that was said int his thread ^^
http://youtu.be/w6ZjAikNrmk


Was just about to post this! Haven't watched the whole thing yet but thanks for the insight on the situation

edit: Btw GL on finding a new team
Oz | Leenock | GuMiho | Lucky | MC | PartinG | DRG | Mvp
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-13 09:29:53
May 13 2012 09:28 GMT
#354
On May 13 2012 18:22 desRow wrote:
Hope this video clarifies some of the things that was said int his thread ^^
http://youtu.be/w6ZjAikNrmk


At 2:18 it mentions Artist didn't get to go to MLG even though he qualified, doesn't MLG pay for that?

edit: spring arena 2


never mind it was answered
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 13 2012 09:29 GMT
#355
On May 13 2012 18:28 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 18:22 desRow wrote:
Hope this video clarifies some of the things that was said int his thread ^^
http://youtu.be/w6ZjAikNrmk


At 2:18 it mentions Artist didn't get to go to MLG even though he qualified, doesn't MLG pay for that?

Artist qualified through the NA bracket. Artist is living in Korea. Because of this, MLG only gives him a $400 travel stipend.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
dreamseller
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Australia914 Posts
May 13 2012 10:24 GMT
#356
i have to admire the players for being so professional. it shows a lot of character on their part. i think we can all read between the lines though. it is very sloppy for a team to change their minds so quickly about their international focus after signing players.
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mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
May 13 2012 10:31 GMT
#357
On May 13 2012 19:24 dreamseller wrote:
i have to admire the players for being so professional. it shows a lot of character on their part. i think we can all read between the lines though. it is very sloppy for a team to change their minds so quickly about their international focus after signing players.

To be fair though, despite the lack of professionality, they did release them from their contracts without any hassle. They had already invested in the players (salaries, contracts, PC for Scarlett and other expenses).
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schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
May 13 2012 10:41 GMT
#358
so Eclypsia just changed their plans? Yeah we want to invest into Korea and hire 4 plaers just for that. Oh, it doesn't work out the way we'd like it, we'll just concentrate on Europe now. OK we'll have to let go of these players. Back to the beginning

Does seem like they just had an idea about Korea but no specific plans. And as soon as they hit some obstacle they just turned around...

anyways, thx desRow for clearing things up
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
Heouf
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands787 Posts
May 13 2012 10:46 GMT
#359
Well desrow is never happy. That is how I see it. Just like that mexican dude. And Scarlett maybe went for an offer that was too good to be true. Or things just suddenly changed.
Gokba Alhakel
ReturnStroke
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States801 Posts
May 13 2012 10:49 GMT
#360
That's too bad. Good luck!!
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