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On May 13 2012 10:30 Jaaaaasper wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2012 08:52 KenZo- wrote:On May 13 2012 08:38 Eppa! wrote:On May 13 2012 07:57 askTeivospy wrote: are there any studies on whether or not men are better than women at video games? Until someone links one thats from a reputable journal and has all variables controlled I'm going to have to say that its foolish to say either "men > women" or "women = men" at video games.
Eclypsia is just a lulz team though, probably best for all of them to be moving on Kasparov said that women couldn't compete at chess. Then a Hungarian proved that wasn't really true and nurtured his 3 daughters into GM players. The reason you have female tournaments is to encourage female progaming. I agree, but it should then only be allowed for women to attend, don't you agree ? Only women do attend, when has a male taken place in a female only tournament, do tell.
scarlett might have a few xy... in a lot of other main stream sports she'd have been authorized to compete.
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On May 13 2012 10:30 Jaaaaasper wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2012 08:52 KenZo- wrote:On May 13 2012 08:38 Eppa! wrote:On May 13 2012 07:57 askTeivospy wrote: are there any studies on whether or not men are better than women at video games? Until someone links one thats from a reputable journal and has all variables controlled I'm going to have to say that its foolish to say either "men > women" or "women = men" at video games.
Eclypsia is just a lulz team though, probably best for all of them to be moving on Kasparov said that women couldn't compete at chess. Then a Hungarian proved that wasn't really true and nurtured his 3 daughters into GM players. The reason you have female tournaments is to encourage female progaming. I agree, but it should then only be allowed for women to attend, don't you agree ? Only women do attend, when has a male taken place in a female only tournament, do tell.
Are you playing dumb ? The iron lady cup admin even stated that some transgender player played in female cups. Transgenders are female minds in a male body so pretending they are female is as highly arguable as pretending they are male. Its depends on your own point of view. Just because Scarlet decided that she would like to be seen as female (which i respect and agree with) doesnt mean that she technically is a female and that Everyone has to accept that. The point that scarlet dominates female tournaments might actually be discourage othe female players because it might indicate that male hormones might actually be the key and drving factor of successfull male gaming.
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On May 13 2012 10:43 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2012 10:30 Jaaaaasper wrote:On May 13 2012 08:52 KenZo- wrote:On May 13 2012 08:38 Eppa! wrote:On May 13 2012 07:57 askTeivospy wrote: are there any studies on whether or not men are better than women at video games? Until someone links one thats from a reputable journal and has all variables controlled I'm going to have to say that its foolish to say either "men > women" or "women = men" at video games.
Eclypsia is just a lulz team though, probably best for all of them to be moving on Kasparov said that women couldn't compete at chess. Then a Hungarian proved that wasn't really true and nurtured his 3 daughters into GM players. The reason you have female tournaments is to encourage female progaming. I agree, but it should then only be allowed for women to attend, don't you agree ? Only women do attend, when has a male taken place in a female only tournament, do tell. scarlett might have a few xy... in a lot of other main stream sports she'd have been authorized to compete.
Fun note above you, dude: "The gender discussion ends on Page 16. The Starcraft discussion resumes on Page 16."
Can't help but feel a bit of pain for Slog and Desrow (maybe Artist? not sure) out in Korea with no team salary to help sustain them there. Here's hoping that they have something sorted/can sort something out soon.
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We were still on page 15 when i wrote this and nice backseat modding btw. Trollbaits like the posts i responded to should get warnings for stiring up these gender discussion every god damn time.
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best of luck to the players, hope a team will pick em up and support them in Korea. I think Slog's skill set as a player manager will make him more marketable to any team than his tournament results
i know EG and Liquid are popular dream team picks for fans, but i'm hoping maybe Infinity Seven will pick up Scarlett lol
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This is not shocking at all considering the terrible job Eclypsia has been doing with PR and marketing.
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After reading about the DOTA team I'm not surprised this happened. Hopefully the players get picked up elsewhere. Mouz may been looking for players now they lost Thorzain etc.
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On May 13 2012 10:54 HakunaMatataSC wrote: [...] Can't help but feel a bit of pain for Slog and Desrow (maybe Artist? not sure) out in Korea with no team salary to help sustain them there. Here's hoping that they have something sorted/can sort something out soon.
Well, there was some cryptic back and forth on twitter between FXOBoSs and desRow:
Joshua Dentrinos @FXOBoSs OK so a PS: question. Do you think its worth Korean-izing a non famous foreigner to make them a pro gamer? 7:01 AM - 12 May 12 via web · DetailsMarc Proulx @desRowfighting @FXOBoSs yes only if there's discipline n determination 7:13 AM - 12 May 12 via Twitter for Android · DetailsMarc Proulx @desRowfighting Big changes coming soon... blog to go along with it =] #fb 7:46 AM - 12 May 12 via Twitter for Android · DetailsJoshua Dentrinos @FXOBoSs @desRowfighting can I spoil? 7:48 AM - 12 May 12 via web · DetailsMarc Proulx @desRowfighting @FXOBoSs hell no slog would kill me Eskimo after last night 7:49 AM - 12 May 12 via Twitter for Android · Details
But I guess we'll just wait and see what will happen.
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On May 13 2012 10:52 MetalSlug wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2012 10:30 Jaaaaasper wrote:On May 13 2012 08:52 KenZo- wrote:On May 13 2012 08:38 Eppa! wrote:On May 13 2012 07:57 askTeivospy wrote: are there any studies on whether or not men are better than women at video games? Until someone links one thats from a reputable journal and has all variables controlled I'm going to have to say that its foolish to say either "men > women" or "women = men" at video games.
Eclypsia is just a lulz team though, probably best for all of them to be moving on Kasparov said that women couldn't compete at chess. Then a Hungarian proved that wasn't really true and nurtured his 3 daughters into GM players. The reason you have female tournaments is to encourage female progaming. I agree, but it should then only be allowed for women to attend, don't you agree ? Only women do attend, when has a male taken place in a female only tournament, do tell. Are you playing dumb ? The iron lady cup admin even stated that some transgender player played in female cups. Transgenders are female minds in a male body so pretending they are female is as highly arguable as pretending they are male. Its depends on your own point of view. Just because Scarlet decided that she would like to be seen as female (which i respect and agree with) doesnt mean that she technically is a female and that Everyone has to accept that. The point that scarlet dominates female tournaments might actually be discourage othe female players because it might indicate that male hormones might actually be the key and drving factor of successfull male gaming. IronLady has already gone over this before.
Discriminating against transgendered people encourages them to lie. It's easy to pick out Scarlett, because she's head and shoulders above the competition, so you can argue that it's "unfair", but what about other transgendered players?
And discriminating based on hormones is even more arbitrary...should only transgendered players that take estrogen replacement treatments be allowed?
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I was really looking forward to seeing Scarlett on a professional level. I hope she finds a new team.
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Wow I was a little behind my Esports knowledge and didnt realize SloG was on Eclipsia. Interesting change of events I do hope they all do find teams where they can develop as players and continue playing. GL guys
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Hope Artist get's a new team, he need's one to go to mlg.
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On May 13 2012 11:30 Proseat wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2012 10:54 HakunaMatataSC wrote: [...] Can't help but feel a bit of pain for Slog and Desrow (maybe Artist? not sure) out in Korea with no team salary to help sustain them there. Here's hoping that they have something sorted/can sort something out soon. Well, there was some cryptic back and forth on twitter between FXOBoSs and desRow: Show nested quote +Joshua Dentrinos @FXOBoSs OK so a PS: question. Do you think its worth Korean-izing a non famous foreigner to make them a pro gamer? 7:01 AM - 12 May 12 via web · DetailsMarc Proulx @desRowfighting @FXOBoSs yes only if there's discipline n determination 7:13 AM - 12 May 12 via Twitter for Android · DetailsMarc Proulx @desRowfighting Big changes coming soon... blog to go along with it =] #fb 7:46 AM - 12 May 12 via Twitter for Android · DetailsJoshua Dentrinos @FXOBoSs @desRowfighting can I spoil? 7:48 AM - 12 May 12 via web · DetailsMarc Proulx @desRowfighting @FXOBoSs hell no slog would kill me Eskimo after last night 7:49 AM - 12 May 12 via Twitter for Android · Details But I guess we'll just wait and see what will happen.
Interesting stuff there man, thanks for that! Wondering what the 'Slog would kill me [Eskimo?] after last night' thing is about though Ah well, like I've said, VLog tomorrow will bring infinitely more answers than pure speculation.
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Desrow has been on about ten different teams now.
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Isn't eclypsia a french team?
First Virus then eSahara Now this
These french teams are always so fishy. Expanding at crazy rates, it's way to obvious they are fake. Yet players still sign.
It hurts to see all these players teamless when they shouldn't be. Hopefully they can still find somewhere to go.
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On May 13 2012 12:17 Kkxtrouble wrote: Hope Artist get's a new team, he need's one to go to mlg.
Yea, Artist better get picked up. He was far and away the best player on Eclypsia.
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On May 13 2012 12:34 iYiYi wrote: Isn't eclypsia a french team?
First Virus then eSahara Now this
These french teams are always so fishy. Expanding at crazy rates, it's way to obvious they are fake. Yet players still sign.
It hurts to see all these players teamless when they shouldn't be. Hopefully they can still find somewhere to go.
To be fair, eSahara was completely legit and just got bought out by AL. They're the same team.
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That seems to be the fastest I've ever seen someone leave a team in any sport (Scarlett) that was crazy did she even play in an official tournament besides Iron Lady under EC?
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