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On May 02 2012 10:26 Lavalamp799 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 10:25 jemoijemoi wrote:On May 02 2012 10:13 TitleRug wrote:It's not like the OP is a random person. He is a streamer I have watched before. He has created great guides such as this one http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=232753 that help many people including myself. The last time I checked he was a grandmaster in NA. The least people can give is a little bit of respect. What?Destiny has contributed to the community much more than this guy.Besides the hypocrisy is astonishing [01:27] DaeHanMinGuk » wtf is this shit [01:31] DaeHanMinGuk » Only zergs tonight [01:50] Crentist » i have been getting fags all night [01:54] Crentist » huh! [02:01] DaeHanMinGuk » I know protoss is fag-like [02:27] DaeHanMinGuk » Meh fucking shit evening [04:40] DaeHanMinGuk » piss off [07:44] DaeHanMinGuk » Fucking cancerdog http://www.sctemple.com/replay/165934/#Chat Yes, you don't need to link this in every one of your posts; we see it. What the OP did outside of his game with Destiny is irrelevant to Destiny in general.
I will post it so it does not get unoticed and people see who the op really is.
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Yes, using racist language is bad, but not nearly as bad as being an actual racist (which I know Destiny is not), and it's not nearly bad enough to warrant trying to get someone fired.
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On May 02 2012 10:23 Swords wrote: Something I don't understand is why the players aren't more pissed at Destiny about this. Every post here by a pro has basically been "this thread is dumb" "don't contact the sponsors" "if you contact the sponsors you're an idiot". They're right that we shouldn't contact the sponsors, but if I were a pro I'd be FURIOUS with this shit. These Destiny debates seem to happen every few months and every time there's the risk that someone, on some website (not even here necessarily) will contact a sponsor and cause that sponsor to be lost for SC2. If I were a player I'd be pissed that some asshat refuses to reign in his racist language on stream and as a result I now have to worry that he'll say something dumb, someone on the internet will get offended, and as a result I lose money. This isn't to say pros should come out publicly against Destiny or something, but if I were his peer I'd at least talk to him privately.
Secondly, I'm amazed that Destiny continues to do this shit. I really hope he's thought his plans through. He makes a living off streaming and his stream has been declining. With his choice of language he's risking losing his team. And if he tries to find a job and the first item that google search brings up for Steven Bonnell is "baneling rape analogy" it's going to be difficult for him to find something lucrative in the real world. On top of that he's trying to raise a child (which costs a shit ton of money). I hope these firestorms bring him lots of viewers, because it'd be really shitty to lose his team (and probably the chance to ever be on another one) over something as trivial as words.
Razer sponsors Quantic, among many teams, and depends on StarCraft fans and other PC gamers to sell their accessories. What I'm saying is Razer needs eSports, but it doesn't need to associate itself with the trash of the SC2 community to do so. If Quantic doesn't care about the content of their players' live streams or even worse, supports the behaviour of Destiny for the sake of attention, it says they aren't worth sponsoring. FFS, they're partnered with StarTale, a Korean team, and this kid can't even refrain from calling people gooks on his livestream?
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Why are people so sensitive...
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Guys do you know what I see ? I see one guy that wants to get his "revenge" against Destiny, using the community and the "orb accident" to achieve his goals. And I find very sad the fact that he actually succeeded... Do you really think about it when you send e-mails to the sponsors ? What can sponsors do to stop Destiny from being BM ? They can do nothing, he will still be BM. The only difference is that he will not be on Quantic and that Quantic will have 1 or 2 less sponsors. Then what if Razer decides that SC2 is not worth it because their mail is flooded with e-mails of angry kids and that this is too much of a bad PR(cus lets be honest here, they don't care if Destiny is calling someone "gook", they care when they see a bunch of people that are saying that they will not buy their stuff because of Destiny)... What then ? It's very easy to jump on the "Hate Train", but I suggest to think about the consequences of your actions.
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If we want to become more popular and mainstream, shit like this has to go. However, as a gamer, as someone who has had "rage outbursts," and someone who knows 99.9% of people who say this shit don't mean it. This is kind of dumb. However, I do agree that we need to definitely get rid of double standards, don't crucify some for it, and praise others. That's even more ridiculous.
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On May 02 2012 10:27 CursOr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 10:26 Rekrul wrote: LOL I just realized the guy Destiny called a 'gook' had the ID DaeHanMinGuk
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Ya. I have no idea why this isn't being pointed out more. I also don't get the big uproar with this guy, honestly his stream is super borring. I try to watch Destiny, but man his elevator music and piss poor attitude... I can't see why so many people tune in.
I did
On May 02 2012 05:00 Arghmyliver wrote: Also the guys name is DaeHanMinGuk. Perhaps its a pun. But no, Destiny is too ignorant for that - it was probably his pent up hatred for those born on the Korean peninsula.
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On May 02 2012 10:29 Ripper41 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 10:25 deadmau wrote: Destiny doesn't appear to be a racist to me, however, everytime I hear his argument for his use of language it comes off as childish, ignorant, lazy, and arrogant. "I do it because it's who I am, not being offensive to anyone, but if I didn't be who I was then I'd be fake, so therefore my language is justified."
Pretty much if I were to meet him face to face, I'd first connect my fist to his jaw. Then tell him to grow-up, or at least a grow a pair. Whether he likes it or not, and I don't even know why he's what he is, he is a big name in the community, and carries a lot of weight. You need to be responsible. Don't even give me that load of he's not doing it in a tournament crap, if you're airing your garbage on the wide open web, and you intend it to be that way, that watch what you say. Otherwise you come off as a tool. Again, I don't think he really is a racist, well lately I'm starting to think otherwise, but he's really lazy about his responsibilities as a somebody in this growing community.
TLDR: Man up. So Destiny uses foul language while you sucker punch people in the face... Sorry, but you're the bigger asshole.
I did not state that my intention was to blindside him one, I don't see what the purpose of that is. I would want him to know that I'm gonna connect one on him, I have nothing to hide from a degenerate of his kind.
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On May 02 2012 10:27 TitleRug wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 10:25 jemoijemoi wrote:On May 02 2012 10:13 TitleRug wrote:It's not like the OP is a random person. He is a streamer I have watched before. He has created great guides such as this one http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=232753 that help many people including myself. The last time I checked he was a grandmaster in NA. The least people can give is a little bit of respect. + Show Spoiler +What?Destiny has contributed to the community much more than this guy.Besides the hypocrisy is astonishing [01:27] DaeHanMinGuk » wtf is this shit [01:31] DaeHanMinGuk » Only zergs tonight [01:50] Crentist » i have been getting fags all night [01:54] Crentist » huh! [02:01] DaeHanMinGuk » I know protoss is fag-like [02:27] DaeHanMinGuk » Meh fucking shit evening [04:40] DaeHanMinGuk » piss off [07:44] DaeHanMinGuk » Fucking cancerdog http://www.sctemple.com/replay/165934/#Chat So? that's just one instance. If you watched the daily yesterday you would see a game with gaulzi vs Warden. Guess what? He didn't bm at all even though he got cannon rushed and then 4gated. He even GGed. If it was anyone else I'm sure they would have bmed the living hell out of the cannon rusher. On the otherhand, I have seen Destiny bm numerous times and not just racial slurs.
So if you are a racist on stream is different from being a racist offstream.You do realize the op is a lesser version of Combatex/deezer whoo manipulates you just to get even with Destiny
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On May 02 2012 10:31 deadmau wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 10:25 KozuePanic wrote:
Its also a well known fact that destiny is the way he is and hed rather stick to it and keep the majority of the people that enjoy him and his personality rather than cater to a few people who find something offensive.
Lol, same bogus argument destiny says. "Wah wah, if I don't continue using racial slurs than my personality/individuality is being hampered." Grow up, expand your sorry ass vocabulary, you can express your malcontent without using words used by degenerates.
Yeah you're definitely not a degenerate. Threatening people online with your extremely expansive vocabulary because they offended you.
An immoral or corrupt person.
Yeah, you threatening to hurt someone because they communicated in a way you didn't like seems totally fair.
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On May 02 2012 10:32 WeaponX.7 wrote: Why are people so sensitive...
People wouldn't be so sensitive if $$$ weren't involved. But of course, it's always for the good of the community.
Also for all the random people that are "offended" and post hate comments the thought process is pretty much the following:
1. Destiny makes more money than me by streaming and saying whatever he pleases. 2. Ahh life is so unfair... 3. Insta-hate. 4. Post hate-comment.
Soo much hate in the world nowadays.. That's why those stereotypes exist anyway.
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On May 02 2012 10:33 deadmau wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 10:29 Ripper41 wrote:On May 02 2012 10:25 deadmau wrote: Destiny doesn't appear to be a racist to me, however, everytime I hear his argument for his use of language it comes off as childish, ignorant, lazy, and arrogant. "I do it because it's who I am, not being offensive to anyone, but if I didn't be who I was then I'd be fake, so therefore my language is justified."
Pretty much if I were to meet him face to face, I'd first connect my fist to his jaw. Then tell him to grow-up, or at least a grow a pair. Whether he likes it or not, and I don't even know why he's what he is, he is a big name in the community, and carries a lot of weight. You need to be responsible. Don't even give me that load of he's not doing it in a tournament crap, if you're airing your garbage on the wide open web, and you intend it to be that way, that watch what you say. Otherwise you come off as a tool. Again, I don't think he really is a racist, well lately I'm starting to think otherwise, but he's really lazy about his responsibilities as a somebody in this growing community.
TLDR: Man up. So Destiny uses foul language while you sucker punch people in the face... Sorry, but you're the bigger asshole. I did not state that my intention was to blindside him one, I don't see what the purpose of that is. I would want him to know that I'm gonna connect one on him, I have nothing to hide from a degenerate of his kind. So Destiny uses foul language while you punch people in the face...
Sorry, but you're the bigger asshole
..that was hard
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On May 02 2012 10:34 jemoijemoi wrote: So if you are a racist on stream is different from being a racist offstream... Actually, yes. Racism on stream is several orders of magnitude worse than racism off-stream.
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After plummeting through these posts, i can't help but to conclude that vigilance and virginity go hand in hand.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On May 02 2012 10:33 deadmau wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 10:29 Ripper41 wrote:On May 02 2012 10:25 deadmau wrote: Destiny doesn't appear to be a racist to me, however, everytime I hear his argument for his use of language it comes off as childish, ignorant, lazy, and arrogant. "I do it because it's who I am, not being offensive to anyone, but if I didn't be who I was then I'd be fake, so therefore my language is justified."
Pretty much if I were to meet him face to face, I'd first connect my fist to his jaw. Then tell him to grow-up, or at least a grow a pair. Whether he likes it or not, and I don't even know why he's what he is, he is a big name in the community, and carries a lot of weight. You need to be responsible. Don't even give me that load of he's not doing it in a tournament crap, if you're airing your garbage on the wide open web, and you intend it to be that way, that watch what you say. Otherwise you come off as a tool. Again, I don't think he really is a racist, well lately I'm starting to think otherwise, but he's really lazy about his responsibilities as a somebody in this growing community.
TLDR: Man up. So Destiny uses foul language while you sucker punch people in the face... Sorry, but you're the bigger asshole. I did not state that my intention was to blindside him one, I don't see what the purpose of that is. I would want him to know that I'm gonna connect one on him, I have nothing to hide from a degenerate of his kind.
And what are you going to do if he refuses to fight hmm? Jump him then go to prison because you physically assaulted an innocent person?
I'm sorry but you're not the brightest person in this thread. You don't win that award today.
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On May 02 2012 10:34 jemoijemoi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 10:27 TitleRug wrote:On May 02 2012 10:25 jemoijemoi wrote:On May 02 2012 10:13 TitleRug wrote:It's not like the OP is a random person. He is a streamer I have watched before. He has created great guides such as this one http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=232753 that help many people including myself. The last time I checked he was a grandmaster in NA. The least people can give is a little bit of respect. + Show Spoiler +What?Destiny has contributed to the community much more than this guy.Besides the hypocrisy is astonishing [01:27] DaeHanMinGuk » wtf is this shit [01:31] DaeHanMinGuk » Only zergs tonight [01:50] Crentist » i have been getting fags all night [01:54] Crentist » huh! [02:01] DaeHanMinGuk » I know protoss is fag-like [02:27] DaeHanMinGuk » Meh fucking shit evening [04:40] DaeHanMinGuk » piss off [07:44] DaeHanMinGuk » Fucking cancerdog http://www.sctemple.com/replay/165934/#Chat So? that's just one instance. If you watched the daily yesterday you would see a game with gaulzi vs Warden. Guess what? He didn't bm at all even though he got cannon rushed and then 4gated. He even GGed. If it was anyone else I'm sure they would have bmed the living hell out of the cannon rusher. On the otherhand, I have seen Destiny bm numerous times and not just racial slurs. So if you are a racist on stream is different from being a racist offstream.You do realize the op is a lesser version of Combatex/deezer whoo manipulates you just to get even with Destiny The forementioned game was played off stream. The people involved did not even know it was being streamed so that could not have affected their behavior. Also comparing Warden, who has actually competed in many tournaments including competing against players like White-Ra, who wrote numerous guides on Teamliquid, who has an unfeatured stream that offers high level commentary, who actually ladders and plays the game at a Grandmaster level, who is bilingual in Korean and English despite being Korean in the first place, to Combatex and deezer is preposterous.
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It was only a matter of time this would happen. Destiny is the man, he makes sense. Destiny for president!
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On May 02 2012 10:32 dUTtrOACh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 10:23 Swords wrote: Something I don't understand is why the players aren't more pissed at Destiny about this. Every post here by a pro has basically been "this thread is dumb" "don't contact the sponsors" "if you contact the sponsors you're an idiot". They're right that we shouldn't contact the sponsors, but if I were a pro I'd be FURIOUS with this shit. These Destiny debates seem to happen every few months and every time there's the risk that someone, on some website (not even here necessarily) will contact a sponsor and cause that sponsor to be lost for SC2. If I were a player I'd be pissed that some asshat refuses to reign in his racist language on stream and as a result I now have to worry that he'll say something dumb, someone on the internet will get offended, and as a result I lose money. This isn't to say pros should come out publicly against Destiny or something, but if I were his peer I'd at least talk to him privately.
Secondly, I'm amazed that Destiny continues to do this shit. I really hope he's thought his plans through. He makes a living off streaming and his stream has been declining. With his choice of language he's risking losing his team. And if he tries to find a job and the first item that google search brings up for Steven Bonnell is "baneling rape analogy" it's going to be difficult for him to find something lucrative in the real world. On top of that he's trying to raise a child (which costs a shit ton of money). I hope these firestorms bring him lots of viewers, because it'd be really shitty to lose his team (and probably the chance to ever be on another one) over something as trivial as words. Razer sponsors Quantic, among many teams, and depends on StarCraft fans and other PC gamers to sell their accessories. What I'm saying is Razer needs eSports, but it doesn't need to associate itself with the trash of the SC2 community to do so. If Quantic doesn't care about the content of their players' live streams or even worse, supports the behaviour of Destiny for the sake of attention, it says they aren't worth sponsoring. FFS, they're partnered with StarTale, a Korean team, and this kid can't even refrain from calling people gooks on his livestream?
Like stated earlier, Destiny said his stream is HIS and no one elses to control. It's his right to do whatever he wants on his stream, and the way he handles his stream is why he gets so many viewers. Just because Quanitc dones't want to mommy Destiny doesn't mean they are the "trash of the community" either.
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Destiny is a trash-talk radio host that happen to play SC2.
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On May 02 2012 10:35 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 10:33 deadmau wrote:On May 02 2012 10:29 Ripper41 wrote:On May 02 2012 10:25 deadmau wrote: Destiny doesn't appear to be a racist to me, however, everytime I hear his argument for his use of language it comes off as childish, ignorant, lazy, and arrogant. "I do it because it's who I am, not being offensive to anyone, but if I didn't be who I was then I'd be fake, so therefore my language is justified."
Pretty much if I were to meet him face to face, I'd first connect my fist to his jaw. Then tell him to grow-up, or at least a grow a pair. Whether he likes it or not, and I don't even know why he's what he is, he is a big name in the community, and carries a lot of weight. You need to be responsible. Don't even give me that load of he's not doing it in a tournament crap, if you're airing your garbage on the wide open web, and you intend it to be that way, that watch what you say. Otherwise you come off as a tool. Again, I don't think he really is a racist, well lately I'm starting to think otherwise, but he's really lazy about his responsibilities as a somebody in this growing community.
TLDR: Man up. So Destiny uses foul language while you sucker punch people in the face... Sorry, but you're the bigger asshole. I did not state that my intention was to blindside him one, I don't see what the purpose of that is. I would want him to know that I'm gonna connect one on him, I have nothing to hide from a degenerate of his kind. And what are you going to do if he refuses to fight hmm? Jump him then go to prison because you physically assaulted an innocent person? I'm sorry but you're not the brightest person in this thread. You don't win that award today.
Maybe that poster didn't use the best choice of words, but this isn't what the thread is about. This thread is about Destiny's choice of words.
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