On May 02 2012 10:32 WeaponX.7 wrote: Why are people so sensitive...
I think most people want to be taken seriously when it comes down to E-Sports. When you have childish behaviour that offends different cultures people are gonna get mad. It reminds me of people getting arrested for comments on Facebook. What did you think was gonna happen?
It isn't socially acceptable to support racists or racial slurs nor should it be.
Either way, Destiny has a fan-base and people will support him because... he is entertaining.
Its also a well known fact that destiny is the way he is and hed rather stick to it and keep the majority of the people that enjoy him and his personality rather than cater to a few people who find something offensive.
Lol, same bogus argument destiny says. "Wah wah, if I don't continue using racial slurs than my personality/individuality is being hampered."
Grow up, expand your sorry ass vocabulary, you can express your malcontent without using words used by degenerates.
Yeah you're definitely not a degenerate. Threatening people online with your extremely expansive vocabulary because they offended you.
An immoral or corrupt person.
Yeah, you threatening to hurt someone because they communicated in a way you didn't like seems totally fair.
It is not a threat, I will present to him my intention of thrusting forth my first toward his jaw, and if he is indeed the quick-witted fellow he acts like online, then he definitely will be able evade or block it. The choice is his, I hope his reflexes are as fast as his APM. I would not worry about Destiny, as you can see by his demeanor online, he's one bad BOSS already...or is that just the e-thug persona that's rubbing off of him, oh well.
On May 02 2012 09:57 jemoijemoi wrote: Destiny is the most entertaining streamer of sc2.He gets more views than all proplayers because he understands an important concept:personality=mainstream viewers which support the community.Is because of the lack of players like Destiny that tournament organizers are bragging with LOL viewers insted of sc2 viewers.As for the bm everyone bm on the internet including the op
[01:27] DaeHanMinGuk » wtf is this shit [01:31] DaeHanMinGuk » Only zergs tonight [01:50] Crentist » i have been getting fags all night [01:54] Crentist » huh! [02:01] DaeHanMinGuk » I know protoss is fag-like [02:27] DaeHanMinGuk » Meh fucking shit evening [04:40] DaeHanMinGuk » piss off [07:44] DaeHanMinGuk » Fucking cancerdog
So cancer and fag is good but a word which wikipedia defines to be offensive to filipinos and vietnamess is wrong. Destiny you have my full support and that of the true sc2 community. I honestly don't get you guys.In another article some tl mod was criticizing 'no face koreans' for winning competitions now tl bans the most entertaining guy out there. Please be more considerate.
what is a cancerdog?
Well more people have died from cancer than becausee of the n word so it should be more offensive.Anyways any mentioning of the word dog in a derogatory way regarding an asian is racist.
On May 02 2012 10:13 TitleRug wrote: It's not like the OP is a random person. He is a streamer I have watched before. He has created great guides such as this one http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=232753 that help many people including myself. The last time I checked he was a grandmaster in NA. The least people can give is a little bit of respect.
What?Destiny has contributed to the community much more than this guy.Besides the hypocrisy is astonishing
[01:27] DaeHanMinGuk » wtf is this shit [01:31] DaeHanMinGuk » Only zergs tonight [01:50] Crentist » i have been getting fags all night [01:54] Crentist » huh! [02:01] DaeHanMinGuk » I know protoss is fag-like [02:27] DaeHanMinGuk » Meh fucking shit evening [04:40] DaeHanMinGuk » piss off [07:44] DaeHanMinGuk » Fucking cancerdog
So? that's just one instance. If you watched the daily yesterday you would see a game with gaulzi vs Warden. Guess what? He didn't bm at all even though he got cannon rushed and then 4gated. He even GGed. If it was anyone else I'm sure they would have bmed the living hell out of the cannon rusher. On the otherhand, I have seen Destiny bm numerous times and not just racial slurs.
So if you are a racist on stream is different from being a racist offstream.You do realize the op is a lesser version of Combatex/deezer whoo manipulates you just to get even with Destiny
The forementioned game was played off stream. The people involved did not even know it was being streamed so that could not have affected their behavior. Also comparing Warden, who has actually competed in many tournaments including competing against players like White-Ra, who wrote numerous guides on Teamliquid, who has an unfeatured stream that offers high level commentary, who actually ladders and plays the game at a Grandmaster level, who is bilingual in Korean and English despite being Korean in the first place, to Combatex and deezer is preposterous.
What does being Bilingual have to do anything? Deezer is bilingual for Christ's sake. French and English, plus he plays/ed at a GM level aswell, but BMs popular people. Don't bring up anything that doesn't have to do with this... jesus.
Don't you feel stupid getting offended by mere words just because society has taught you to be? Stop being offended by shit like this that doesn't affect you nor anybody else.
From every single negative thing you can call someone you can extrapolate degredation of the people who consider themselves affiliated with that term(race, sexual orientation, weight, sex, mental capacity etc.). If you're black stop giving a fuck if someone says nigger, even if they are calling YOU that. They are probably just trying to piss you off or probably using it as a general insult. Is it racist? Personally i don't consider words in themselves to be racist. Racist people may use such words, non-racist people may use such words.
Discrimination; unfair treatment, that is racism to me.
TLDR; stop being offended by shit that has nothing to do with you.
Its also a well known fact that destiny is the way he is and hed rather stick to it and keep the majority of the people that enjoy him and his personality rather than cater to a few people who find something offensive.
Lol, same bogus argument destiny says. "Wah wah, if I don't continue using racial slurs than my personality/individuality is being hampered."
Grow up, expand your sorry ass vocabulary, you can express your malcontent without using words used by degenerates.
Yeah you're definitely not a degenerate. Threatening people online with your extremely expansive vocabulary because they offended you.
An immoral or corrupt person.
Yeah, you threatening to hurt someone because they communicated in a way you didn't like seems totally fair.
It is not a threat, I will present to him my intention of thrusting forth my first toward his jaw, and if he is indeed the quick-witted fellow he acts like online, then he has every right to evade or block. The choice is his, I hope his reflexes are as fast as APM. I would not worry about Destiny, as you can see by his demeanor online, he's one bad BOSS already...or is that just the e-thug persona that's rubbing off of him, oh well.
See ya on lock up raw! I love that show.
I really don't know how to feel about this, really dumb choice of words by destiny, and bad handling by him... I don't really think he's racist though, just got heated and said really stupid things.
o.O I assumed this was a really old thread. I remember last year Destiny was on SotG so i assumed he had reformed his ways and had at least somewhat bought into the idea that he was a public figure and would act accordingly. Clearly my assumption was baseless. I have been an ass and the ump has shunned me!
Its also a well known fact that destiny is the way he is and hed rather stick to it and keep the majority of the people that enjoy him and his personality rather than cater to a few people who find something offensive.
Lol, same bogus argument destiny says. "Wah wah, if I don't continue using racial slurs than my personality/individuality is being hampered."
Grow up, expand your sorry ass vocabulary, you can express your malcontent without using words used by degenerates.
Yeah you're definitely not a degenerate. Threatening people online with your extremely expansive vocabulary because they offended you.
An immoral or corrupt person.
Yeah, you threatening to hurt someone because they communicated in a way you didn't like seems totally fair.
It is not a threat, I will present to him my intention of thrusting forth my first toward his jaw, and if he is indeed the quick-witted fellow he acts like online, then he has every right to evade or block. The choice is his, I hope his reflexes are as fast as APM. I would not worry about Destiny, as you can see by his demeanor online, he's one bad BOSS already...or is that just the e-thug persona that's rubbing off of him, oh well.
This thread is full of people like these: "I don't watch Destiny's stream, because I don't like him. In that way I don't support him by not watching." "Oh look, a thread about Destiny using racial slurs. Let's have a look." "I fully agree with the OP and since I hate Destiny already and since I totally want to ruin him because he insulted someone on the internet, I will go email his sponsors. So they don't give him money either."
I seriously don't understand, why you people care so much. Why don't you just stick with your own fucking life. Don't try to impose your will on someone so much. I'ts like you want to control everything you don't agree with.
In all this time that I kinda follow Destiny around. I haven't seen 1 black person who said to Destiny that he was offended. The only people I see that are really making a problem of this are white people who need to feel butthurt for the black people. Apparantly you're so ashamed of what your forfathers did, that you feel that you need to protect them from harmfull words or whatever that may mean. Well you know what? I don't think there is any black person who feels offended by Destiny saying nigger on his stream. And the fact that white people think they do, makes them more racist then Destiny himself. By beiing so smallminded to think a black person can't come up for himself. It's fucking disgusting, that white people think black people are so weak, that they can't say to a white man, that he needs to shut up if he offends them. It's because white people still think they're superior and they are the only ones who can see what is right and what is wrong.
The point is that Destiny makes his money the way he is. Nobody would watch his Stream if he wouldnt Rage on stream all the time to the trolls hes playing, its what makes his stream interesting to people. And even when people create stupid threads like this one to call him out and get him banned, it just creates even more drama for him and he will probably get even more viewers. I think its funny how some people dont understand that. And personally i dont think any sponsor for eSports is gonna approach the team they sponsor and say "we heard rumors about this BM guy called destiny who always uses racial slurs on his stream, i wont support you anymore", as well as people wont suddenly watch his stream, hear him rage and say "now i hate starcraft 2 and i will never watch it again".Thats just not gonny happen, so i dont think Destiny hurts eSports at all.
Its also a well known fact that destiny is the way he is and hed rather stick to it and keep the majority of the people that enjoy him and his personality rather than cater to a few people who find something offensive.
Lol, same bogus argument destiny says. "Wah wah, if I don't continue using racial slurs than my personality/individuality is being hampered."
Grow up, expand your sorry ass vocabulary, you can express your malcontent without using words used by degenerates.
Yeah you're definitely not a degenerate. Threatening people online with your extremely expansive vocabulary because they offended you.
An immoral or corrupt person.
Yeah, you threatening to hurt someone because they communicated in a way you didn't like seems totally fair.
It is not a threat, I will present to him my intention of thrusting forth my first toward his jaw, and if he is indeed the quick-witted fellow he acts like online, then he definitely will be able evade or block it. The choice is his, I hope his reflexes are as fast as his APM. I would not worry about Destiny, as you can see by his demeanor online, he's one bad BOSS already...or is that just the e-thug persona that's rubbing off of him, oh well.
You do realize the destiny fans would ko you in a second right?
Its also a well known fact that destiny is the way he is and hed rather stick to it and keep the majority of the people that enjoy him and his personality rather than cater to a few people who find something offensive.
Lol, same bogus argument destiny says. "Wah wah, if I don't continue using racial slurs than my personality/individuality is being hampered."
Grow up, expand your sorry ass vocabulary, you can express your malcontent without using words used by degenerates.
Yeah you're definitely not a degenerate. Threatening people online with your extremely expansive vocabulary because they offended you.
An immoral or corrupt person.
Yeah, you threatening to hurt someone because they communicated in a way you didn't like seems totally fair.
It is not a threat, I will present to him my intention of thrusting forth my first toward his jaw, and if he is indeed the quick-witted fellow he acts like online, then he definitely will be able evade or block it. The choice is his, I hope his reflexes are as fast as his APM. I would not worry about Destiny, as you can see by his demeanor online, he's one bad BOSS already...or is that just the e-thug persona that's rubbing off of him, oh well.
lol...internet tough guy WATCH OUT!!!!
this has been discussed to death about Destiny...as long as TL likes Destiny he wont get defeatured...and his team wont kick him...
The End
Discuss what you will on MORALS and that crap...wont matter <3
On May 02 2012 10:45 oldie8 wrote: The point is that Destiny makes his money the way he is. Nobody would watch his Stream if he wouldnt Rage on stream all the time to the trolls hes playing, its what makes his stream interesting to people. And even when people create stupid threads like this one to call him out and get him banned, it just creates even more drama for him and he will probably get even more viewers. I think its funny how some people dont understand that. And personally i dont think any sponsor for eSports is gonna approach the team they sponsor and say "we heard rumors about this BM guy called destiny who always uses racial slurs on his stream, i wont support you anymore", as well as people wont suddenly watch his stream, hear him rage and say "now i hate starcraft 2 and i will never watch it again".Thats just not gonny happen, so i dont think Destiny hurts eSports at all.
Calling SpawN a Nigger would be unacceptable, no matter what "I said it because I meant it in another pseudo-BS-argument" gloss you give to your argument. It is no different to anything else used to incite hatred.
If destiny was a nobody then it wouldn't be as important, but since he is, and he's representing the sc2 community in a big way, this kind of tolerance is unacceptable. Just leaving him running round amock is bad for the community as a whole.
People like Day9 and others are working in a very professional manner. As a sponsor, I would love to be affiliated with people such as day9, or even husky (who knows relatively little about sc2) but would hate to be affiliated with a racist bigot. I personally would reprimand him in a big way, but don't cut sponsorships etc.
Spur of the moment anger is understandable, but other people have other ways of venting their frustration. Don't feed me any BS about your choice of language blaa blaa, we all know it's BS and you are responsible for what you spout. It's wrong and you know it.
it's funny how you destiny nut riders act like he hasn't done anything wrong, please any of you kids come around where I live and say racist shit (thinking you aren't using it in bad context) see what happens, I mean my best friends are black and not once do I say anything racist near them or away from them. Please you illogical in denial kids hide behind you monitor all you want, but know that your ass would get beat or even worse around here.
On May 02 2012 10:44 Wortie wrote: This thread is full of people like these: "I don't watch Destiny's stream, because I don't like him. In that way I don't support him by not watching." "Oh look, a thread about Destiny using racial slurs. Let's have a look." "I fully agree with the OP and since I hate Destiny already and since I totally want to ruin him because he insulted someone on the internet, I will go email his sponsors. So they don't give him money either."
I seriously don't understand, why you people care so much. Why don't you just stick with your own fucking life. Don't try to impose your will on someone so much. I'ts like you want to control everything you don't agree with.
In all this time that I kinda follow Destiny around. I haven't seen 1 black person who said to Destiny that he was offended. The only people I see that are really making a problem of this are white people who need to feel butthurt for the black people. Apparantly you're so ashamed of what your forfathers did, that you feel that you need to protect them from harmfull words or whatever that may mean. Well you know what? I don't think there is any black person who feels offended by Destiny saying nigger on his stream. And the fact that white people think they do, makes them more racist then Destiny himself. By beiing so smallminded to think a black person can't come up for himself. It's fucking disgusting, that white people think black people are so weak, that they can't say to a white man, that he needs to shut up if he offends them. It's because white people still think they're superior and they are the only ones who can see what is right and what is wrong.
And then you realize it was a Korean that got offended he got called a gook. Yeah, it's only white people that get offended. Ok.
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