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Racial Slurs in QuanticDestiny's Stream - Page 12
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CP-Jun
Australia278 Posts
Oh never mind then : ) maybe it's me who can't read I didn't see precisely............................. | ||
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chatuka
1351 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:09 Klondikebar wrote: Guess what buddy, you don't get to decide when the word "faggot" is a slur or not. It's always a slur and it's always unacceptable. I never said calling somebody a faggot wasn't unacceptable buddy. re-read the post and get back to me buddy. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:03 tomatriedes wrote: Does Warden ever not do 1-1-1s? I don't think so. He just likes to test players' manners on the internet by spamming idiotic all ins all day. You should thank him for the noble deed he's doing. Not everyone would be willing to sacrifice one's thriving for skill in order to hunt down BM on ladder. | ||
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betaman
United Kingdom355 Posts
On May 01 2012 22:46 Doraemon wrote: wow.everyone is so dismissive of the utilisation of "gook" but the lynchers are out for the "n-word" Destiny uses the "n-word" all the time though, it's kinda his thing to be as offensive as possible. The 12 to 14 year olds and people with that level of maturity that watch his stream lap it up. Comparing Destiny and Orb directly is not relevant, one as a caster, is chosen to represent the community and has to show a degree of professionalism. If any caster used one of these racist terms it would have large detrimental effect on their careers. Destiny, although part of a team, essentially works for himself and seems unlikely to change his ways anytime soon. | ||
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:09 HwangjaeTerran wrote: No one on TL can do anything about this. If you are offended by a word, take your case to someone who can ban words and feels empowered to do so. It just forces people to come up with another term though. You can also take the matter to your own hands and block all communications at the start of the match. Anything but mobs. as Type|Naruto said earlier in the thread, TL can do something about it, though. They could take a stand and defeature him. Obviously they have not chosen to go this route now or in the past (with incidents like -orb-). Perhaps it's a precedent of policing conduct that they do not want to go down. However by choosing to feature his stream on their site they making a statement that they approve enough of his behavior to suggest many others follow his stream. It's an interesting argument, but TL featuring is a very important part of keeping stream viewer counts high. TL could make a stand to improve the level of discourse in SC2 and it definitely has the power to do so. It already does it through incredibly strict site moderation. It could do it with the players as well through the use of it's featuring system. | ||
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Firesilver
United Kingdom1190 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:13 CP-Jun wrote: Oh never mind then : ) maybe it's me who can't read I didn't see precisely............................. Well with the amount of shit posts in this thread, it's not surprising you may have got them mixed up  . | ||
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Reborn8u
United States1761 Posts
I've never really cared for destiny anyway. Always felt he was overrated and tried way to hard to be cool. Only time he ever played well was after fungal got a huge buff. Once it got nerfed he crawled back under his rock of failure and poor sportsmanship. The only way he can get people to view his starcraft stream is by using racial slurs and shock value, that's really pathetic. He will fade away once he runs out of 10 year olds to entertain with dirty language. (because unlike him, most will actually mature mentally at some point)  | ||
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ssg
United States1770 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:07 Takkara wrote: No it's not. In what context? Granted what they say at practice and even on the field will definitely be colorful and offensive. However, in a public sphere a professional sports player cannot say racial slurs or call people 'fucking faggots'. If they did and when they have, there has been major controversy. They can't? Look at the NBA last year. People in the gay community had complained about the leagues history of acceptance of homosexual slurs, so the league launched an expensive advertising campaign to save face. It was then capped off by players like Kobe Bryant and Joakim Noah not caring and continuing to use such slurs. Noah even said "fucking faggot" himself. Except no one cares to continue to remember these instances. | ||
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TBone-
United States2309 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:12 nOondn wrote: i don't think Quantic care about this,They know about Destiny's behavior before they signed him. And do you know why Quantic doens't care? Because it doesn't actually matter. | ||
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MountainGoat
United States507 Posts
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tzenes
Canada64 Posts
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:10 CP-Jun wrote: I am sorry. Can you not read? I am not being a dick. I am saying people should not put down OP because he raised a valid point like you said. I don't understand how my sentences were twisted like that. Which valid point did he raise exactly? Destiny was being a dick, which - if it bothers you enough - you sort out by reporting him to TL/Twitch, ie the people that he streams through and promote his stream and who will probably not approve of such content being featured on their respective websites/services (if they decide it goes against their policy). There is no point to be made here. | ||
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Antimatterz
United States1010 Posts
On May 01 2012 22:17 Fionn wrote: Destiny? Racial slurs? Woah, I never expected this. Exactly what I thought when I saw the thread title... | ||
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Chocobo
United States1108 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:05 Silvertine wrote: Sorry but you don't get to redefine words. You can't call a group of black people 'niggers' and then say "Oh, to me it just means 'gentlemen'." When you use a racial epithet towards someone, especially when its the exact slur that pertains to that persons race, it is racist. It doesn't matter whether you intended for it to be racist or not. That's like calling a woman 'cunt' and when she gets angry saying "I meant it as a compliment"! Some women might take it as a compliment, in certain rare circumstances. And some black people do use that word to mean "gentlemen" and accept it as such. Anyway, my point is that it's your choice whether to be deeply offended, or to realize that the words come from an immature person who is a fountain of curse words. It really does matter who the source of the words is. If a small child or a person who deserves no respect called you stupid, you would think nothing of it. It is the opinion of someone who does not matter, and what's more- it may not even be their actual opinion, it's more likely they were just spewing negativity in order to vent. But if your father, or your boss at work, or some highly respected colleague says "you really screwed this up, I can't believe how stupid you were" then it would affect you deeply. What you need to realize is that Destiny belongs in the first category and not the second. | ||
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Crue
Australia47 Posts
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Technique
Netherlands1542 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:12 jax1 wrote: Its the internet destiny would not say stuff like this if he played pingpong for example. Its problem internet have and also a freedom. Its easier to say what you feel when there is no direct consequence. we learn and evolve its gonna take some time. But pingpong fans would like to see a good pingpong game and not some jackass spout out racial slurs and call it personality. Actually this brings me back to what Tyler said... guess he WAS right. People just like drama, hence why some1 like destiny is a very popular streamer over the many high quality sc2/rts players that stream at the same time. | ||
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Zambrah
United States6995 Posts
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:10 Disconnect wrote: Inside a game of Starcraft is equivalent to "On the field". Not when it's recordable or on a stream. That's when it's in the public. What two players say in privacy when no one can hear, no one can do anything about. But if a fan or the league mics that player up and catches the slur, then that's a controversy. It would be an issue if a player in any major sports league in America (NBA, MLB, NFL, NHL, etc) used a slur like that. There have been incidents like it in the past. (See: John Rocker) | ||
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0ne
Spain2464 Posts
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chatuka
1351 Posts
On May 01 2012 23:13 betaman wrote: Destiny uses the "n-word" all the time though, it's kinda his thing to be as offensive as possible. The 12 to 14 year olds and people with that level of maturity that watch his stream lap it up. Comparing Destiny and Orb directly is not relevant, one as a caster, is chosen to represent the community and has to show a degree of professionalism. If any caster used one of these racist terms it would have large detrimental effect on their careers. Destiny, although part of a team, essentially works for himself and seems unlikely to change his ways anytime soon. Intention is what really matters to the user of the racial slur. Of course using the N-word is not acceptable in society. Asians, spanish, white people do use that word as some kind of gangsta/kool kind of pride term. Like, "what's up NIgga?" to their asian, white, or spanish friends. I don't think it's very respectful and mature to utlize a word like nigga but the intention was not to diminish or slander a entire race of people. On the other hand, people who call a black person a "Ni$$er" in their face is then openly being hostile and commiting an act of hate against a person of another race. I say that SC2, professional players should never use openly hostile words that is intentionally targeting a race or ethnicity of a person. That Sh$T is unacceptable in SC2 | ||
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